Fun fact: ”unweighted one arm vertical power bench” is functional training for ”punch”. Many martial artists who haven’t come out of the functional training closet often use these kinds of terms to cope with their own self-denial
How about shotput and discus? The way it was always explained to me is to bridge the slow heavy bench to the fast pec and triceps movement for a throw.
In general the speed work is left to other better suited movements or more importantly be fast when practicing your throws and let that take the brunt of your velocity specific stuff for the upper body
I’ve never seen “speed bench” as speed work, just a lighter load with 100% effort. Not that I’m interested in it, but I do ask for 100% force on the concentric on the build up sets during ‘acclimation.’
So guessing your not a fan of the conjugate method then ?😜 the argument i have heard for accommodating resistance is that you are needing to accelerate throughout more of the movement because the weight as you go up is getting heavier. Thoughts ?
Just wanting to ask to avoid confusion on my part: "speed work" is considered ineffective, because it's too light. As far as compensatory acceleration work goes ( which from what I've read of Fred Hatfield, involves weights which are at the very least 70% of 1rm ) do you find it still has value, as a means of not having to work with close-to-maximal weights in order to improve one's 1RM?
yes that what they said in the video. After the strength phase, in the power realisation phase you would the use speed work using well chosen percentages of your 1 RM
i feel you're missing the point with speed work. this is not to bring up the 1rm lift but to improve the passive structures to support the strength work that you do to increase your 1RM. on the other hand bands and chains are used to tackle your weaknesses i.e. lockout in the bench, as an accessory to the comp lift training. judging from the comments underneath i'm not sure though that this video is looking for serious comments though. so fu lads!
Well no need to curse, but I think you've missed the point and if something isn't mean to improve your 1RM why would it be done? What passive structures would be valuable when doing an active movement like benching? Speed benching is claimed to make your 1RM better
@@sikastrength passive structures like tendons and ligaments, which is also very valuable to prevent injuries when going heavy. i do agree that it is not a tool to directly influence your 1RM but it's very valid as an accessory to the comp lift training.
But why... are your assertions as a result of experience or are you speaking from theoretical knowledge.... if as you suggest band and chain training is next to useless.... why is it so prevalent in power lifting?
@@BuJammy it's actually 30-75 percent. Speed benching is the only thing that increases bench after nearly 20 years of training. Speed work is amazing especially for advanced lifters. I'd say superior to heavy lifting for strength progress
Ep 4 Kneesovertoesguy: The Force Velocity Curve
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Fun fact: ”unweighted one arm vertical power bench” is functional training for ”punch”. Many martial artists who haven’t come out of the functional training closet often use these kinds of terms to cope with their own self-denial
sounds suspiciously like a practicing a sport there buddy, you'd want to be careful with that
I'm watching this on the toilet trying to express as much force as possible
Try speed pooping
@@sikastrength I think I'm in a Hypertrophy phase
Max Effort Lower Body
How about shotput and discus? The way it was always explained to me is to bridge the slow heavy bench to the fast pec and triceps movement for a throw.
In general the speed work is left to other better suited movements or more importantly be fast when practicing your throws and let that take the brunt of your velocity specific stuff for the upper body
Would be fun to see your guys max benchpress sometime would be interesting for sure. Great channel btw!
When’s the next cooking video comin gents?
Hadn't really planned one but we might do an Xmas special 🤣
@@sikastrength please do
I’ve never seen “speed bench” as speed work, just a lighter load with 100% effort. Not that I’m interested in it, but I do ask for 100% force on the concentric on the build up sets during ‘acclimation.’
So guessing your not a fan of the conjugate method then ?😜 the argument i have heard for accommodating resistance is that you are needing to accelerate throughout more of the movement because the weight as you go up is getting heavier. Thoughts ?
What about power cleans to aid the deadlift as advocated by Mark Rippetoe from Starting Strength?
So like.... Speed floor press then?
Now we're fucking talking
Just wanting to ask to avoid confusion on my part: "speed work" is considered ineffective, because it's too light.
As far as compensatory acceleration work goes ( which from what I've read of Fred Hatfield, involves weights which are at the very least 70% of 1rm ) do you find it still has value, as a means of not having to work with close-to-maximal weights in order to improve one's 1RM?
yes that what they said in the video. After the strength phase, in the power realisation phase you would the use speed work using well chosen percentages of your 1 RM
@@major253kannon my man
IMO the myth of "speed training" I believe is one of the most well believed training concepts currently today
West side has been influential
After the strength fase, when you are trying to realize that power, how many reps and sets at what percentage?
moderate sets and moderate reps, 3-5x3-5 for approx 60-80% depending on your individual abilities and where a velocity meter would come in handy
i feel you're missing the point with speed work. this is not to bring up the 1rm lift but to improve the passive structures to support the strength work that you do to increase your 1RM. on the other hand bands and chains are used to tackle your weaknesses i.e. lockout in the bench, as an accessory to the comp lift training. judging from the comments underneath i'm not sure though that this video is looking for serious comments though. so fu lads!
Well no need to curse, but I think you've missed the point and if something isn't mean to improve your 1RM why would it be done? What passive structures would be valuable when doing an active movement like benching? Speed benching is claimed to make your 1RM better
@@sikastrength passive structures like tendons and ligaments, which is also very valuable to prevent injuries when going heavy. i do agree that it is not a tool to directly influence your 1RM but it's very valid as an accessory to the comp lift training.
But why... are your assertions as a result of experience or are you speaking from theoretical knowledge.... if as you suggest band and chain training is next to useless.... why is it so prevalent in power lifting?
so is obesity and steroids.
Speed bench? Sounds like a pec tear in the making
Louis Simmons would have a shit attack reading this.
@@BuJammy it's actually 30-75 percent. Speed benching is the only thing that increases bench after nearly 20 years of training. Speed work is amazing especially for advanced lifters. I'd say superior to heavy lifting for strength progress
Shite like that