Coach Stone, what a necessary video this is. The number one poorly coached and poorly studied skill being taught to junior volleyball player in america is arm swing mechanics. And the primary issue is the feedback to "get your elbow up". If juniors coaches taught Low to High.. it would save a lot of players from shoulder surgeries and there would be a lot more heat and range out there
The techniques modeled & explained here are remarkably similar to the methods of Chinese coach Dr. Lian Lu who was the head of the Olympic Coaches Commission. He also was also a long time assistant at UC Santa Barbara under Kathy Gregory, head coach at Cal St. Northridge in the 90s, & the national team coach for Mexico. He was a great friend of Pepperdine/Team USA's gold medal winning head coach Marv Dunphy. Dr. Lu was one of the brightest & most articulate minds in volleyball I have ever known. This video is outstanding.
These drills are awesome. I am 34 and recently began playing Volleyball. It is tough to learn. I made a lot of mistakes in the beginning and now it is super tough gettin rid of them. My hit was always weak and all over the place. The whole movement felt wrong all the time but nobody told me what I did wrong. Now I know my shoulder was to stiff and I was told my whole arm needs to be stiff and full of tension. Now that I know my elbow is the driving force and not my shoulder, things have cleared up for me. And the way the shoulder is placed in this movement pattern is perfect to avoid Impingement, which was always a big problem for me. Well, it will take ages for me to learn the new movement pattern, but it is not too late. After doing a couple of these exercises at home I noticed that I also gained more control over the ball when forearm passing or setting. That was pretty weird because I didnt expect that. I am happy that I stumbled across this video, so thanks a lot.
Jim, This is a fantastic video an incorporates beautifully the physics to create a smooth and powerful arm swing. It is so critical to involve the core and more powerful back muscles in the swing and avoid a "shoulder only" swing. This is key in preventing overuse injuries in the shoulder. My daughter remembers the shoulder back concept by saying she's "wrinking her scapulae together", storing the loaded potential energy of her trunk and back and then releasing them
This video is gold. That been said I been coaching and still playing for longer than what I want to admit. I coached college girls and high school boys. While I agreed with 95% of everything he said, the one difference in coaching boys and girls is where the boys make contact with the ball vs girls. Boys proportionally jump higher than girls, so if you look at her contact with the ball is almost aligned straight with her neck. With boys, you always teach them to hit in front of their heads. Also girls relly way more on rolling the wrist to create the spin down for the ball. That's the difference in the proportion of how much higher boys jump. Boys are literally hitting the straight down with pretty much no roll. That's because we hit in front of the face with arm extended so the angle of the contact is already at a decline. Girls have to hit at the highest point of reach with the arm stretched out and apply some wrist. You might think is minimal but just watch men in slow-mo making contact vs women.
one of the best, if not the best, videos on arm swing mechanics. I've only been playing 6 years and despite being quite tall, my hitting has sucked. Lets see if some of these drills help...
Great video! I have played and coached for almost four decades. The area I teach a little different is the location of where athletes pull the arm back. My experience has been having the athlete swing both arms hard above the head increases and maximizes the athletes jump before pulling the arm back to hit. You can still pull your elbow low and swing high. Lots of great information in this video.
That actually makes a lot of sense :) So you would say that as soon as both arms have reached peak height, then you should pull your elbow back, instead of doing it mid jump/armswing?
such a great video for spikers, I have always had a problem with the arm swing when I feel I am slapping it, but now I feel like I am hitting and swinging at the ball learning that you should bring the elbow back.
30 years ago, I caught a bunch of flak for teaching this way. Because it wasnt "how it's always been done in the past". Glad to see this information available.
Great video! Among the best on arm swing if not the best! There are well explained practice routines and not just theories. Why this video didn't exist 10 years before when I began volleyball and was 17? Now I am stuck with a very bad hitting habit which hurts my shoulder and my back.
Excellent excellent video here! As a coach I am always exploring new ways to teach my girls. I coach 3rd - 8th grade. At the 3rd grade level some of my littles can't even grasp how to move their feet, yet my 8th graders are ready to attack. At what age do we start introducing these mechanics?
Ah thanks man my hand contact and mechanics have been poor, I have only played club for a year but I’m going to be a sophomore. I’m pretty good but my mechanics are not that great but since club is pushed back I’m gonna do these everyday.
@@martinjohnson9049 Haha that claim in the beginning of the video is according to me about as horrible as the rest of the video is amazing. I changed my swing in 2-3 weeks last year at age 28.. With the right combination of motivation, motor learning science, neuroscience and sports psychology, the possibilities for learning get amazingly expanded! :) Don't let your hopes go down but get to work instead! :) EDIT: If you want some help on the way, I now have a video up that is pretty helpful to give an idea of what the process is like. It's called "Is the acuspike volleyball spike machine worthless?!" on my channel! :)
Do note that alot of professional athletes intentionally dip slightly to the side on alot of hits, pulling their arm to the side instead of to the center if they want a higher ball contact. If you're standing, you will find you can reach higher when you angle yourself, not staying tall. However I'd imagine being stabilized in that position requires more strength, hence the advice to stay straight. I personally find I hit more balls when I stay straight, but I was confused when I saw professional athletes doing something else, especially when serving. If you disagree just watch any professional match on TH-cam. The important thing is that the elbow circle movement remains at a 90° angle to the ground, not swinging left or right, leading to missing the ball/bad hits or shoulder problems. I can recommend recording your own hits and then comparing that to what the professionals or semiprofessionals do and finding the difference in movement and movement timing, not in jump height and spiking speed. (When are they pulling the arms back/forward/up)
Perfectly structuted instructions. I am only missing what Position the hitting arm has to come to a stop. Is it moving diagonally towards left body side or better to the right.
Amazing video! Except one in my eyes huge mistake: saying it's impossible to change your armswing after 18 or 20 or so. First time I found this video I saw that first part, thought to myself "Oh yeah? What about last year when I completely redid my armswing mechanics in 2-3 weeks at age 28?!", lost interest and stopped watching. Fortunately, I now a couple of months later ventured into this video again, ignored the beginning part and saw one of the best videos on armswing ever, a LOT of good thoughts and ideas in this one, thank you! I just hope you don't underestimate the plasticity of the brain also in older people! With the right personality/motivation combined with some motor learning/neuroscience/sports psychology a LOT is possible also in an older age. It's probably still easier durig those child/teenage years so I completely agree we should get as many kids as possible on the right track early, but hope is not lost in older age. Again thanks a lot for the video, I actually hope I'll be able to meet you some day! :)
@@Danoie67 Interesting! I'm a beach guy and I think what he teaches is somewhat spot on what I see the best spikers do on the beach..! Do you have an example of like a player with better or "newer type" mechanics? :)
Literally impossible to change at 18?!? Look pal i am grateful for this video cause it is amazing but i am going to prove you wrong. I am 18 and I never received proper training and i was and still am training myself from the internet. So wait for 1 month(till exams are over and i can start playing again) and you’ll see that it it is not literally impossible
I am 6' 2" and I play volleyball pretty regularly. But I know a guy that is probably as short as you, but he can not only jump as high as I can, but he can also hit better. Height isn't everything
Talo tatu We humans can’t fly so we decided to look for an alternative. I am not short but not that tall as well. My big bro is like 20cm taller than me but i can touch the things he touches through jumping and i can actually touch the ceiling (i am 170) So you just go and fly
Hi would you please consider doing this video with a brand new 10, 11, or 12 year old beginner. I realize that girl keeps it clean looking but she isn't 8.
All is great except the start of the arm swing. When you start with elbow low and rotate up and high will cause shoulder fatigue as well elbow problems. Swinging with elbows going high and as your rotate, you’ve set yourself up with a proper follow through that hits the ball at the optimum length and power. Furthermore, when the elbow swings back low, cutting the ball is more difficult and if the cut is successful, it will again hurt the elbow and shoulder. Great video though... just careful with the initiation of the swing.
Where did you find that information? I have heard the exact opposite from a colleague. He found out in one of his studies that starting with ellbow high frequently results in impinchment syndrome. And although I prefer the ellbow high approach - because I think it makes ball control a lot easier - starting ellbow low certainly gives me the feeling to have more power. Your thoughts? @Tuan Nguyen
@@elhurondaswiesel2049 Hi @elhuron Daswiesel! I'm no youtuber, but I can shoot a short video and sent over a link to better explain It's going to be super amateur video. my Sports Med doctor and Physiotherapist had expressed to this me - both a very strong vball players (kind of cool...this is the most constructive conversation I've had! no bashing - just respectful opinions)
When watching her arm swings in minute 9:48 and following I would say: be careful if your girlfriend is an active volleyball player... she could deliver pretty hard face slaps... :-)
Coach Stone, what a necessary video this is. The number one poorly coached and poorly studied skill being taught to junior volleyball player in america is arm swing mechanics. And the primary issue is the feedback to "get your elbow up". If juniors coaches taught Low to High.. it would save a lot of players from shoulder surgeries and there would be a lot more heat and range out there
4:24 Top Spin Drill, Underhand & Overhand (relaxed hand, fingers spread) - 50 reps each
5:37 Open Hand Contacts (spread fingers, full hand contact, roll wrist over top) - 25 reps
7:01 Hand Shake & Hit ball down off the ground (elbow & wrist motion) - reps TBD
8:10 1-foot Standing Hits (promotes core engagement & flexion) - reps TBD
10:35 Floor-to-Wall Hitting
11:10 Tissue Shredding, Part 1 (loose wrist, static arm) - 30 seconds
12:45 Tissue Shredding, Part 2 - (add continuous arm swing) - reps TBD
13:47 Arm swing issues & most common mistakes
18:02 Box Hits (standing hits from 2-hand toss, “pull chain”, hold the finished position) - reps TBD
21:30 2-step Down Ball Hits (ball tossed to ideal position, no jump, proper posture & swing) - reps TBD
21:45 Right-Left-Jump & Hit (move to the ball, coach/partner varies the tosses) - reps TBD
Thanks
What an angel
The coach is so excellent! He explained the spiking drill in a super clear way, very easy to understand.
Thks coash very much^^
The techniques modeled & explained here are remarkably similar to the methods of Chinese coach Dr. Lian Lu who was the head of the Olympic Coaches Commission. He also was also a long time assistant at UC Santa Barbara under Kathy Gregory, head coach at Cal St. Northridge in the 90s, & the national team coach for Mexico. He was a great friend of Pepperdine/Team USA's gold medal winning head coach Marv Dunphy. Dr. Lu was one of the brightest & most articulate minds in volleyball I have ever known. This video is outstanding.
These drills are awesome. I am 34 and recently began playing Volleyball. It is tough to learn. I made a lot of mistakes in the beginning and now it is super tough gettin rid of them. My hit was always weak and all over the place. The whole movement felt wrong all the time but nobody told me what I did wrong. Now I know my shoulder was to stiff and I was told my whole arm needs to be stiff and full of tension. Now that I know my elbow is the driving force and not my shoulder, things have cleared up for me. And the way the shoulder is placed in this movement pattern is perfect to avoid Impingement, which was always a big problem for me. Well, it will take ages for me to learn the new movement pattern, but it is not too late. After doing a couple of these exercises at home I noticed that I also gained more control over the ball when forearm passing or setting. That was pretty weird because I didnt expect that. I am happy that I stumbled across this video, so thanks a lot.
I think this is so spot on and extremely helpful. Started incorporating these drills right after I first watched. Thank you
After having ACL surgery I’m trying to re-teach myself technique and mechanics, this video is really helpful
Club coach referred daughter's team to this video. Thank you both!
Jim, This is a fantastic video an incorporates beautifully the physics to create a smooth and powerful arm swing. It is so critical to involve the core and more powerful back muscles in the swing and avoid a "shoulder only" swing. This is key in preventing overuse injuries in the shoulder. My daughter remembers the shoulder back concept by saying she's "wrinking her scapulae together", storing the loaded potential energy of her trunk and back and then releasing them
It's a lengthy video but one must watch it till the end and your smashing technique will definitely be improved.
This video is gold. That been said I been coaching and still playing for longer than what I want to admit. I coached college girls and high school boys. While I agreed with 95% of everything he said, the one difference in coaching boys and girls is where the boys make contact with the ball vs girls. Boys proportionally jump higher than girls, so if you look at her contact with the ball is almost aligned straight with her neck. With boys, you always teach them to hit in front of their heads. Also girls relly way more on rolling the wrist to create the spin down for the ball. That's the difference in the proportion of how much higher boys jump. Boys are literally hitting the straight down with pretty much no roll. That's because we hit in front of the face with arm extended so the angle of the contact is already at a decline. Girls have to hit at the highest point of reach with the arm stretched out and apply some wrist. You might think is minimal but just watch men in slow-mo making contact vs women.
One of the best video I've see. Thank you!
sir you are real teacher of voly ball i watch your vidoes they are helping me to spike the bal weldone sir
one of the best, if not the best, videos on arm swing mechanics. I've only been playing 6 years and despite being quite tall, my hitting has sucked. Lets see if some of these drills help...
Ray Safaie did they help?
Have they helped so far?
Did they help
lol everyone here in the replies is just asking if they've helped xD
When you're the tallest but your hits suck 🥲
I’m so glad I found this before I got in a lot of muscle memory since I started a couple months ago
This is the most helpful drills, very important points, it was great coach
спасибо большое. это лучшее видео по технике удара. смотрю каждое утро перед тренировкой.
Great video! I have played and coached for almost four decades. The area I teach a little different is the location of where athletes pull the arm back. My experience has been having the athlete swing both arms hard above the head increases and maximizes the athletes jump before pulling the arm back to hit. You can still pull your elbow low and swing high. Lots of great information in this video.
That actually makes a lot of sense :) So you would say that as soon as both arms have reached peak height, then you should pull your elbow back, instead of doing it mid jump/armswing?
Great video. Curious what does the box do for the practice?
such a great video for spikers, I have always had a problem with the arm swing when I feel I am slapping it, but now I feel like I am hitting and swinging at the ball learning that you should bring the elbow back.
Best volleyball video of all time. Thanks
Excellent video! I’m gonna practice these techniques with my daughters . Thanks!
pick someone your own size 😂
30 years ago, I caught a bunch of flak for teaching this way. Because it wasnt "how it's always been done in the past". Glad to see this information available.
Excellent video, one of the best. Thanks, this helps a lot.
Great video! Among the best on arm swing if not the best! There are well explained practice routines and not just theories. Why this video didn't exist 10 years before when I began volleyball and was 17? Now I am stuck with a very bad hitting habit which hurts my shoulder and my back.
Koto Lan me too! Me too! I needed this 30 years ago
I was thinking the same thing just now :(
Jim sir please make a video on improving contact point during spiking volleyball
this is why I love coaching at the 4,5,6th grade levels. The kids are blank slates and don't have bad habits that need to be broken.
I do cause I play other sports and they mix in with each other😹
Very useful for beginners and Coaches....
This is really well demonstrated.
Explanations are so clear! thanks a lot!
Great video I see a lot of players doing this, execute it very will, thank you for the making this great video
well i’m glad i saw this now i just started playing
Excellent excellent video here! As a coach I am always exploring new ways to teach my girls. I coach 3rd - 8th grade. At the 3rd grade level some of my littles can't even grasp how to move their feet, yet my 8th graders are ready to attack. At what age do we start introducing these mechanics?
Ah thanks man my hand contact and mechanics have been poor, I have only played club for a year but I’m going to be a sophomore. I’m pretty good but my mechanics are not that great but since club is pushed back I’m gonna do these everyday.
Watching this with 26 years: "If your arm swing is bad at 18, it is hard to change." - *cry*
Literally me! I’m 26 too
@@martinjohnson9049 Haha that claim in the beginning of the video is according to me about as horrible as the rest of the video is amazing. I changed my swing in 2-3 weeks last year at age 28.. With the right combination of motivation, motor learning science, neuroscience and sports psychology, the possibilities for learning get amazingly expanded! :)
Don't let your hopes go down but get to work instead! :)
EDIT: If you want some help on the way, I now have a video up that is pretty helpful to give an idea of what the process is like. It's called "Is the acuspike volleyball spike machine worthless?!" on my channel! :)
means i can discontinue watching, but i continued watching (edited after two minutes haha)
I'm 26 too. Look at us 26ers with hopeless arm swings.
Same
Thank you Coach. Amazing technique.
Спасибо!!! Тренер просто красавчик!!! Очень нужно и понятно!!!
Great video, I will practice it soon, I really appreciated !
Do not stop the arm momentum at any point. This 13:25 is true of softball throwing also.
thx this was really helpful
so good videos and more useful than most similar videos
Hand does a circle 17:35 around the elbow. Hand never stops.
Do note that alot of professional athletes intentionally dip slightly to the side on alot of hits, pulling their arm to the side instead of to the center if they want a higher ball contact. If you're standing, you will find you can reach higher when you angle yourself, not staying tall. However I'd imagine being stabilized in that position requires more strength, hence the advice to stay straight. I personally find I hit more balls when I stay straight, but I was confused when I saw professional athletes doing something else, especially when serving. If you disagree just watch any professional match on TH-cam. The important thing is that the elbow circle movement remains at a 90° angle to the ground, not swinging left or right, leading to missing the ball/bad hits or shoulder problems. I can recommend recording your own hits and then comparing that to what the professionals or semiprofessionals do and finding the difference in movement and movement timing, not in jump height and spiking speed. (When are they pulling the arms back/forward/up)
oh my gosh wow thank you so much
Useful in improving minor mistakes
She has to use her two steps (RL) 24:00 to adjust her position before her spike.
On the way up, as right arm reaches shoulder height 15:02, pull right elbow back.
Excellent video!
Thanks a lot... Its really really really useful...
Perfectly structuted instructions. I am only missing what Position the hitting arm has to come to a stop. Is it moving diagonally towards left body side or better to the right.
Keep your arm straight
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Amazing video! Except one in my eyes huge mistake: saying it's impossible to change your armswing after 18 or 20 or so. First time I found this video I saw that first part, thought to myself "Oh yeah? What about last year when I completely redid my armswing mechanics in 2-3 weeks at age 28?!", lost interest and stopped watching.
Fortunately, I now a couple of months later ventured into this video again, ignored the beginning part and saw one of the best videos on armswing ever, a LOT of good thoughts and ideas in this one, thank you!
I just hope you don't underestimate the plasticity of the brain also in older people! With the right personality/motivation combined with some motor learning/neuroscience/sports psychology a LOT is possible also in an older age. It's probably still easier durig those child/teenage years so I completely agree we should get as many kids as possible on the right track early, but hope is not lost in older age.
Again thanks a lot for the video, I actually hope I'll be able to meet you some day! :)
1990's arm swing mechanics also........
@@Danoie67 Interesting! I'm a beach guy and I think what he teaches is somewhat spot on what I see the best spikers do on the beach..! Do you have an example of like a player with better or "newer type" mechanics? :)
just leaving a comment to get a notification if he answers with 'new' mechanics
U just called 28 year olds "old people"? Asshole.
If you're age is > 18 year old don't give up, never in a million years
That helps a lot. Thank You
Great video! Thanks a lot
Hellow Jim sir... Can you please make vedio on steps of spiking
Really great video, coach, Thank you! I figured out some impt info to correct arm swing
Coach my problem is when i try to spike, i found i spike out the pitch volleyball court.what is the problem coach? ???
Literally impossible to change at 18?!?
Look pal i am grateful for this video cause it is amazing but i am going to prove you wrong. I am 18 and I never received proper training and i was and still am training myself from the internet. So wait for 1 month(till exams are over and i can start playing again) and you’ll see that it it is not literally impossible
How you doin
Did it like 2 months ago but was trying to find the video 😂
@@salmabassiony5998 How's it going right now? its been 2 years and i need an update man
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mega tutorial! and mega thanx!
Tennis serve topspin is quite different, brushing up and out, rather than snapping the wrist
great video!
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Great video. Thank you so much
Just wow!
Very good
Good video
12:16 I tried to shred the paper but I ended up shredding my wrist tendons.
I'm going assume you're not in high school anymore...I had the same issue😭😂🤣😂🤣😂
Yep, if your paper shredding is bad at 18, it is hard to change.
Thanks this helps a lot
Thank you Sir
thank you very much
This is great
Thank you
very nice
Rotate hips forward 17:25 and elbow rotate upward.
Good jab
nice vedio,,
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but i am just 5.4hft,,
it's difficult for me to hit against the good blockers😥😥😥
I am 6' 2" and I play volleyball pretty regularly. But I know a guy that is probably as short as you, but he can not only jump as high as I can, but he can also hit better.
Height isn't everything
Talo tatu
We humans can’t fly so we decided to look for an alternative.
I am not short but not that tall as well. My big bro is like 20cm taller than me but i can touch the things he touches through jumping and i can actually touch the ceiling (i am 170)
So you just go and fly
My daughter ids 5'4" is she to short to play outside hitter? What can she do to improve her jump she has a difficult time getting it over the net?
Thanks coach
This is amazing
спасибо
Is there a good approaching video out?
dombert1 yes but on another channel called elevate yourself it is actually amazing
My hitting elbow always come under the ball while spiking so I shot put the ball.... Can't generate power....
I am watching this tutorial in 2022
I try to learn volleyball at age 25 let's go
Want elbow to go from 16:05 low to high, not high to low.
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Nice!
Nothing is impossible. It will just take serious intentional changes in the person whoever learned incorrectly.
Hi would you please consider doing this video with a brand new 10, 11, or 12 year old beginner. I realize that girl keeps it clean looking but she isn't 8.
All is great except the start of the arm swing. When you start with elbow low and rotate up and high will cause shoulder fatigue as well elbow problems. Swinging with elbows going high and as your rotate, you’ve set yourself up with a proper follow through that hits the ball at the optimum length and power. Furthermore, when the elbow swings back low, cutting the ball is more difficult and if the cut is successful, it will again hurt the elbow and shoulder. Great video though... just careful with the initiation of the swing.
Where did you find that information? I have heard the exact opposite from a colleague. He found out in one of his studies that starting with ellbow high frequently results in impinchment syndrome. And although I prefer the ellbow high approach - because I think it makes ball control a lot easier - starting ellbow low certainly gives me the feeling to have more power. Your thoughts? @Tuan Nguyen
@@elhurondaswiesel2049 Hi @elhuron Daswiesel! I'm no youtuber, but I can shoot a short video and sent over a link to better explain It's going to be super amateur video. my Sports Med doctor and Physiotherapist had expressed to this me - both a very strong vball players (kind of cool...this is the most constructive conversation I've had! no bashing - just respectful opinions)
@@TuanNguyenHealthGenie yes please send it to me. I can send you the thesis that showed results for higher risk of impinchment syndrome in return ;)
The drill to incorporate the piking action of the torso 9:47
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I really hit smash.. With wrist relax
5:04 dam sun
and i'm not talking about the ball ;)
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When watching her arm swings in minute 9:48 and following I would say: be careful if your girlfriend is an active volleyball player... she could deliver pretty hard face slaps... :-)