Homemade Welding Machine - Simple Cordless Welding Machine 200A
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- Homemade Welding Machine - Simple Cordless Welding Machine 200A
I made this welding machine from two old car bateries and alternator.
The way this machine works is very simple, engine is powering alternator and alternator generates 24 volts ac, then regulator converts it to 24v dc and charges batteries. Its almost same in any car or motorcycle. Im using only one phase of alternator (+-500W) but best choice is to use 24 V alternator.
Welding rods: 3.25mm
Amps: +- 200A
Also this can be used for powering DC to AC converter
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Heuse & WOLFHOWL & Riell - Daylight [NCS Release]
Kovan & LaCrème - Miracle (feat. Daimy Lotus) [NCS Release]
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I made this welding machine so i can use it at the cottage where i have no electricity, i will also add a converter so i can power other things. I definitely should have used a regular gasoline generator but in my country such a generator costs as much as 3 times than the parts for this. This is more like an experiment but I will definitely use it.
Do you have a video of how to wire the alternator
Great idea.perfect for our farm.
Can you have like 8 parallel (old, Dead batteries, and still wild w them, (maybe only 4) will a lawn mower sized be enough and the alternator to power it, AND is it safe to charge the batteries w AC, I think it would be OK if they are in parallel, because it's now more if a base and less chance of reactance.
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@@reoii8020 yes if it worked did you notice the shit weld
you built a gasoline battery charger from what i can see, great stuff now i guess we will build one to.
Using an older style general motors alternator with the internal regulator only requires a simple one wire hook up to work. They're also very inexpensive, plentiful, and are available in high amp outputs . Would have been a better option if one was available in his area
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WHY NOT WELD WILE ENGEN RUNNING .HELP.PLEASE.???
But its not enough power to sustain arc
Can you please make me one please
So....all that for a battery charger?
can i get the wiring diagrams
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FYI don’t weld on concrete it explodes in your face
Ngl could of been made more compact and stable than this you Should of gone to engine -> alternator -> half bridge rectifyier -> transformer then attach your welding ends to that
not really though its better to have the batteries so you have an energy buffer
@@RayRayGaming-cr3rw wrong reason being welding needs amps not volts batteries have very low volts and welds terribly. Everything I recommended increases it from 12v 10A of output to 6V 400A
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completely useless invention, original welding machine is cheaper than this invention 😄
You are dead shorting batteries. Yikes
It's complete nonsense, there is no control of welding amps output, it's useless and you couldn't even demonstrate a continuous weld.
36 years ago I got my first job as a welder at a fence company. The company had an old commercially made portable welder very similar to this. Forget the brand, but it was simply a Briggs & Stratton engine with the shaft coupled to a GM alternator in a steel cage. No regulator, no battery and no rectifiers in the alternator. Obviously AC output, and I don't remember what it's maximum output was. Probably no more than 80 amps.
alternators make 3 phase, so it must have had rectifier diodes?
Is there a way to regulate the amperage with a setup like this?
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Love the videos but what I don't understand is why more people with awesome ideas such as yours don't narrate their videos instead of the rank music. I still loved it.
Great job at being so negative people. That's exactly what this world needs. This man had an ideal and he got up and acted on it. That's the part of all this with the most importance. You see he could have sit there being negative,had a ideal and never acted but the fact that he acted is what made him successful. Congratulations sir !!! Continue acting on your ideas and you will continue being successful.
Amen to this comment, haters are hating because they are jealous.
It’s so cool. If you explain how to make it in more detail, it will help a lot to make it.
In particular, please explain in detail how to connect the wires of the Converter and Regulator Batterry.
Thank you for your education
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He cannot explain. He cannot talk, that's why this idiotic video has the lame background music.
Even if he did I probably still can't
@@johncoops6897 😂😅
👍😎✊ 40v being optimal, 36 is better than 24.. use three battery's
Also try switching to negative at the rod, and positive to 'ground' clamp on the work.
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Now a days it’s always cheaper 2 buy a 110 welder n avoid all that expense.. that like $700 dlls investment n da 110 welder its only like $160.00 dlls for a good 1 to get da job done rite n better then ur invention.. 😬😬😞😞🤷♂️
Waste of time. take your current right off the alternator and regulate it with input voltage. Battery is only used for power not welding. get a lot higher current and voltage. This is a joke for low current shitty welds
This would make a good Inverter/generator with the addition of a 5000 watt inverter. Also, I would use a 140 amp GM Single wire alternator.
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So it welds crappy. You need open circuit voltage of around 80 volts, not 24.
Gee I wish there was some narration to this video so we could know what size to make that thing and everything duh 🙄🙄🙄!!!
Use a smaller welding rod for less amps.
For people who like this sort of project, it’s important to note that delicate electronics like a laptop computer need a clean, square sine wave input. This generator will not provide that. It will give dirty power, which can damage many electrical devices. So if you build something like this, you will need to install a sine wave filter. They’re not cheap. If you’re only going to draw DC current, and then run it through a high quality inverter, that’s fine. But really good inverters aren’t cheap either.
Your boring 😴
if you're willing to go through that effort, why wouldn't you just use a good stepdown converter with current regulation to use instead of the original charging brick
Salut! What kind of welding rod are you use?
Dumb question, do the battery's have to be good? Or are they supposed to act as a 24v resister? I got extra bad batteries layn around is why i ask this.
So do i
Wonderful welder. But couldn't you self excite the alternator and skip the batteries? I know a lot of guys used the self excited delco 10si and 12 SI to get budget 60-100 Amp welders in the 70's and 80's.
It is not possible usually because without battery the alternator would be fully charging and it will damage very fast and it is also kind of waste
Can you adjust the welding output at all or does it have 1 setting?
That's OK if that setting matches the metal you are working with .
Nice project. Problem is, 30v welds much better than 24v.
Ad a 3rd batery
All you need is to incorporate an arc stabilizer for a controlled weld. Nice build.
Surprised a motorcycle regulator rectifier could handle that much load , since I've never seen one go over 15 amps output...
looks like he's using the rectifier just to charge the batteries when they get run down, The actual welding is done straight off the car batteries. The thumbnail got me where I though this was something more than just welding with car batteries lol
@@jadedmc59601 I guess it tricked me too.
I still could hook one to my mower for other uses
Cool working on the
losing a ton of power with those solid wires theyre only rated for like 20 or 30 amps
Many years ago I ran tests on trying to weld with car batteries. Car batteries are chemical power sources and have totally flat DC output. No pulse whatsoever. This makes it hard to arc, in fact it doesn’t arc at all. Test I did in 1980s was I hooked two batteries in series ( like they have here ) to make 24 volt and connected a large 60+ amp battery charger to help give it a little pulse and help it to arc ( a little ) which it did and made it so I could make a couple fairly normal welds with 7014 rod.
The next time I attempted this I needed to at least tack a bunch of tubing together , I had two real good batteries but only a little 4 amp charger. It didn’t work as good as before but I did manage to tack my tubing together with small spot welds, kind of ‘ scrubbing ‘ the spots because I had to keep it very short - no arc power. 6011 rods
What I would like to see ( and I thought that was what they were going to do ) is for to see what it does with the generator running while welding? It should help it to arc and make it much more usable.
Turning it off when welding didn’t make sense, unless striking an arc with the generator running burned up the brushes or something.
Had to spot weld using jumper cables off the batteries in a military truck years ago....worked in a pinch.
@Muckin 4on I'm not electrical expert but understand enough to know some of what you're talking about.
I may have to try this experiment again as I have a few ' inductance ' ideas to try.
Can you charge and weld at the same time? I am going to bet this doesn't have the most stable arc in the world 6013 has a lot of stabilizers in the flux. Probably a good rod selection for a machine of this nature
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You DIDNT TELL US SHIT WHO MAKES ALTERNATOR ..OR XYZ BS
Nice job. I'm planning on making your set up.
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The connection of the cable was connect straight to the battery,? The battery is 2x3sm with 12 volts 48Amp hours= 24 volts with 96 Amp hours . How do you calculate 200 amps can you give me idea ? And how's the battery doin ? Is it good for the battery life ? Sorry for the question coz i wanna make one too. I have the same motor,..i wanna hear about your masterpiece... I think much better to use 2x6sm batteries, by the way your video was great. Keep posting interesting video !.
Nice pro👍👍
To expensive motor $500.0 alternator $150.0 belt $50.0 batteries $300.0 plus supplies and other $100.0, no thanks I can bay a new for a $500.0
Better buy one with all the cost of two batteries
Se le puede poner algun regulador para regular los amperes?
some of the first welders where powered by batteries. the amish still weld in this way in my area with large implement batteries. the modified alt. mitigates the power draw and charges the batteries as well. decent packaging for low cost.
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First, you used a welder to make a welder... and you used a stick welder to make a medeocer stick welder (both can be used to scratch start TIG but you're not using either that way).
Second, you don't need the batteries if you wire it correctly, I built a similar alternator TIG powered by a 5hp electric motor and used the alternator field coil to self energize once it was spinning. In my case I just mounted the whole assembly to a 2x8" board and used a headlight dimmer wired to the field coil circuit as an amp output control.
Finally, you're not getting nearly 200A out of that. At near 100% efficiency (which this will get nowhere near) you'll stall that 6.5hp motor, and that belt as installed will slip and smoke WELL before that. Forget that fact that I know of very few conventional case alternators that will put out 200A and you're only using 1/3 of the output of that alternator. I'm guessing that you're limited to about 70 or so amps the way you have that setup.
Exactly. Like the guy who buys a muffler that makes his car sound like it doesn't have one.
Just think if you would have had a stick welder you could have thrown that rotten ass 2x8 away and your unit could have been as good as this one.
@@billwatts4066 Actually the 2x8 one had nice plywood and hardwood brackets and spacers and looked much nicer, the alternator and motor were clean and painted, and it had pretty decent output control. Besides needing to be plugged in/not running on gas, it was nicer than this one in almost every way.
@@mpikas well that's great and all but what has this guy done to you that he deserves all this negative criticism? He didn't rob a Bank or kill somebody. He made use of his time and materials and made something of use,shot some video while he done it and was kind enough to share.
@@billwatts4066 and I watched it and commented because his details aren't correct, possibly helping some of the people really impressed with this before they spend unnecessary money duplicating this (though maybe in some cases this might be the best way of getting from here to there). The fact is that just the 2 car batteries would make just as good a portable stick welder for emergency use, and the rest of the assembly would work without the batteries.
Like it or not, the comment helps his video and channel by creating traffic. I'm not sure that my comment is all that negative and from the looks of it a few of the others commenting agree.
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Why are you using car batteries and not deep cycle batteries? Car batteries are for momentary current only and require constant charging when in use. Deep cycle are for sustained current and only require charging when they are low. Don't believe me? Look up the difference in the plate thickness and spacing in the battery types. It also seems like a great way to blow your batteries up and throw sulfuric acid everywhere because you are effectively creating a direct short to weld and have nothing to limit the current. Batteries explode when exposed to direct shorts for too long because, you know, direct shorts create heat...a lot of heat
Just need a welder to make a welder. No problem.
Pra desmontar o alternador? Só pra usar regulador externo?🤷♂️
What did that engine serpentine pulley come off of? Did you weld it to the centrifugal clutch? They are almost impossible to find for a small engine.
It says from a car. And yes I saw welds holding it together
@@gibbyrockerhunter what model/make of car. it fit up almost perfect.
So you are welding w the batteries and the alt keeps up the charge..
Nice job. But don't you need any regulator and rectifier for the alternator?
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Brah you should never weld shirtless or with short sleeve you will get a wicked sunburn....
How to build a welder with a welder lmao
bro, you only use one phase?
WHY NOT ALL OF THEM?
Welding without running the engine?
Yes. He is welding only by battery ;) It's possible, i think everyone know that.
(sorry for my English)
The weld will start off with the highest amps then fade away as the batteries charge declines. There is no adjusting amperage so there will be no consistent weld
No, you don’t weld with just batteries, unless maybe you have 48 volts worth or better.
Chemical power DC doesn’t arc at ALL
@@michaelszczys8316 guess you didnt watch the video
Nice!
So you can make it feuless by ejecting that ingine
Welding with bare forearms ? Must like getting burnt!
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Seem to have trouble maintaining a steady arc?
yes , because his open circuit voltage is only 24 volts .. any welder has at least 50 or more OCV ,, the arc is very sensible to distance changes ,,, when the ocv is higher as you get the elctrode farther the load decreases and the voltage goes up sustaining the arc at higher gap separation ,,,,
A welder costs less than just the motor.....
cordless ??? with a cord...
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Very nice.
My only comments. Add third battery so you have 36 v DC. Your welds will be much better.
Also you could make an alternator welder if you had an externally regulated alternator.
👍😎✊ 40v being optimal, 36 is better than 24.
Also try switching to negative at the rod, and positive to 'ground' clamp on the work.
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Great video Thankyou for sharing it. This will be great in the deer camp,if I can figure out the wiring. Would you share more information about how to wire it?
Loved this!
You spend more money to build it, just buy a welding machine 🤦🏻♂️
nice set up where can you get a 24 v alternator also can this idea work for wire welding
Poor comment section is full of "Better ideas" "Why build this?" or "LOL Buy real one" and im betting half the commenters have at least 1 device "jerry rigged" with whatever was around at the time.
He needs all the better ideas possible.
@@goatsinker347 To most folk as long as something works, it's good enough. To others if you arent using top shelf tech, you're a scrub.
@@filboyt657
It's a fine machine! It needs to provide around 60 to 90 volts open circuit voltage to sustain a good welding arc. That's all. I run 7 batteries in series. I charge them via the alternator in my truck. I step the 12 volts up to 120 ac with a power inverter. I rectify this ac to dc and charge the batteries through a 1000 watt halogen light bulb that serves as a voltage dropping resistor to allow the inverter to not fault. Works really good. To adjust the arc (if it is too hot) i connect to the sixth or fifth battery, dropping the voltage and subsequently the amps.
@@goatsinker347 Sir that is well something I would love to see. I weld all the time on deep cycles @ 24 volts with flux wire in a spool gun. Using golf cart batts or deep cycle marine. My gun is called Ready Welder™ and it works well. I have a bucket truck and a sign co. , if I need to weld something I just throw 2 marine batts in the bucket and hook up the spool gun and take off. Often I stand on the batteries in the bucket. I can get a good 30 mins of arc time, rarely is that not enough. Soon I hope to TIG on batts in the bucket @ 30ft..
@@alansims4344
Well, yeah, that's short circuit mig. In that process the wire touches the weld area and causes a momentary short circuit, the voltage can be lower since you're not sustaining an arc continuously. With stick welding the electrode is kept away a short distance from the weld area, and a higher voltage is helpful when you're having to rely on keeping the arc lit at moments when the arc gap becomes a bit longer than what 24 volts can sustain. I've found that 6013 rods do okay at an open circuit voltage as low as 48 volts, 6011 rods are happy at an ocv of 60 volts or so, 7018 rods barely work at 60 ocv volts, but come around at about 80 volts ocv, while 6010 rods are horrible until you get to around ocv of 90+ volts. I use two inverter welders hooked up in series to give me 126 ocv volts for welding 6010 rods. At that open circuit voltage the 6010 rods work extremely smoothly. Make note that i'm going by open circuit voltage, i'm in no way saying that-that's the voltage during welding. During welding what was the ocv voltage drops to maybe as low as 18 to 20 volts, fluctuating as arc length changes (due to being a result of a handheld electrode.)
Soooo, you used a welder to build another welder
Very observant of you!
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One for positive and one for negative okay Joe duh 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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He made a welder with a welder
Directly shorting batteries is never a good idea for longevity
Nice welding set
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I'd just twist the wires together without those plastic pieces
Cordless?
Ok
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I respect all mechanical thinkers and inventors and those who aspire to make or invent something. For that you deserve a thumbs up. However for me If i was in a third world country and needed a welder and would have no chance of getting one but had these parts available, then to me this is the only way that would be a great idea. Being a welder for 40 years...and just speaking for me.... I think it best for me to leave the welding machine design to Miller, Hobart, Lincoln, Esab, HTP etc. Not only for supreme welding function but for welding safety also. You do deserve praise however for your mechanical thinking. I see how you use your ingenuity to make things out of left over parts or pieces that are usually "one off" and your idea, and i like that type of thinking. Thank You!
Thank you!
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Definitely not enough power to push the rods
Try 1/16 " E6013 , that will be the ticket.
You Literally bult a battery charger