Its reputation you need, that means, talking to everyone you met until you startet the mission. Also like TomZanovich mentioned below, you need: -Have 4 reputation bar -Save Koris -Have imported a save with :Tali alive Legion Alive - Tali's loyalty quest (Tali not exiled) - Legion loyalty (Doesn't care if reewriten or destroyed) Tali-Legion fight stopped with reputation And certain people say that other things can change, like punching Han'Gerrel or accomplish Geth fighter mission
+Andrew Bow The game ended here for me. After this it was just a drag. They should've made the Anderson and Shepard scene the last, a radio of "You did it, reapers are disabled" would've been enough. Then showing Shepard's funeral and mentioning Anderson could seal the trilogy. Shepard gave her/his life and that's it. There was no need for the "playing god" nonsense from whoever with god complex designed. You can't complete a story with multiple endings. It starts from a single point, you can have variations/different choices along the way that creates different plots, but a story ends only in one way with those plots converging at the end. Otherwise it's a mess. So ending vs endings, I always support a singular coherent ending for a story.
Troy Carter I thought that too. It's a shame they couldn't do that so it wouldn't be a hassle to continue the mass effect series. I'm sure Andromeda will be fun but the two stories can never connect unless they choose one of the endings.
+Troy Carter Problem is, the series was always going to endwith you playing god, they changed what the choices were but even the original planned endings were no better.
timemonkey I've been saying these since the original endings. The first time around, I was waiting for shepard to sit with that thing and "hey you're just a child, you don't know the world like I do, you shouldn't play games on your own" :D
I'm kind of bummed that there are only two options in the initial dialogue - attempt to deny Legion's request (to which he responds with pleading for his life) or immediately try to broker peace. I wish there was a third option in which you could be more aggressive to the quarians instead. Something like _- Shepard, you can't choose the geth over my people!_ _- In fact, I can and I will. (Give me one reason not to.)_
@@MultiTwentyseven If I remember correctly you don't blast it with your pistol.. You hit it once more with that orbital weapon, whatever that was again..
One of the better writing bits in the series is that Legion starts referring to itself in singular instead of plural right before it sacrifices itself.
I like the way Legion seems to hesitate when he says "I'm sorry". As if he just realises that he referred to himself as "I" instead of "we" for the first time, meaning he truly gained sentience.
@@Cheburashka207 Mass Effect told a story far grander than its initial space odyssey set up. This is a story about bitter rivalries between different races that become less bitter in the face of the greatest threat ever known. Enemies become allies. Long lived differences being forgotten. Comradery, that's what Mass Effect is really about. Take the Rachni, for example. You can choose to execute the queen. Or, sympathize with her and let her and her children free. Save her you gain an ally in ME3. I mean yeah you can be a renegade and be an asshole all the time, but certain renegade options kind of break the story? If you play renegade start to finish, what kind of character IS Shepard and why would he give a flying fuck about the galaxy? Renegade Shepard seems more suited for mercenary work, like The Blue Suns. I do tend to play a mix of both though. Paragon when it makes sense or seems the right thing to do. Renegade for battle sequences and general assholes who dont deserve nice Shepard.
I don't get why people would just skip ME1 and ME2 and just jump right into ME3. Like you miss so much lore and story, not to mention the characters. Plus you won't understand any of the references and/or character cameos. Also the fact that skipping games in a story driven video game series where your previous choices count is just plain stupid.
Sure, but By playing ME3 i wouldn't have played the others and become a huge fan that i am now, with hundreds of hours logged on all 3 games and DLC's. I saw the advertising for ME3 and was quite interested. If i hadn't of sinked my teeth into ME3 first i doubt i would ever get a chance to play the trilogy.
I must go to them - Legion I will never forget moment Legion with his independence choose to save his people instead rebuilding them from scrap Legion a true hero of the Geth
I am so proud of my trilogy paragon playthrough. ME1 - saved every one except Kaidan, chose Anderson for the council. ME2 - Got all the loyalty missions and character confrontation right. Got everyone alive at the last mission (second try) ME3 - Cured genophage, saved bith the quarians a d geth resulting in peace and even managed to get some salarian help although the council salarian gal bitched about it. Everybody came out alive except mordin and thane. And at the end destroyed the reapers and got out alive with approximately 8000 war points and 100 percent readiness. And my character looked awesome. All without having a single look online. I just got *every single thing* right.
Honestly this right here would have been a great moment to reveal tali's face. Few seconds of looking out into the horizon of Rannoch before she slowly turns to Shep, tears running down her face as she says, "Right now, I have this." The whole Photo thing was a bigger disappointment thing than the endings.
I did EVERYTHING except for the geth server mission because it's glitching out and is impossible to do AT ALL. And no peace. I played through all of the previous games, did all loyalty missions, saved Tali from exile without exposing her dad, shut her and Legion up with mah paragon charisma, saved Admiral Koris and STILL NO FUCKING PEACE!
When I watched The Expanse for the first time I immediately recognized Chrisjen Avasarala's voice but couldn't quite pinpoint where I've heard it before since I didn't recognize the actress. Well, after watching this Video I suddenly realized where I have heard it before and that Admiral Raan was actually voiced by Shohreh Aghdashloo.
I just got to this part, but I couldn`t save both of them, since my Legion died in ME2. At the end of ME2, you have to choose someone for a mission, in which they'll probably die. They said it would involve hacking, so the logical choices were legion or Tali, but you can pick whoever you want. Its ironic that the logical choice screws you over in the long run.
Legion must not have been loyal then. He's actually one of the logical choices, between him, Tali and Kasumi Goto. If he died on that mission, he was not loyal.
@@Disturbance42 I did every single 'loyalty mission' that I had a chance to do, didn't he have a mission where you had to decide whether to reprogram or destroy the bad Geth? I chose destroy, maybe that's why he wasn't 'loyal'.
@@totesMagotes83 Yes, that's his loyalty mission, but picking Destroy or Rewrite does not affect his loyalty, however after his loyalty mission, Tali and Legion fight and you must either use extremely high Paragon or Renegade to diffuse it completely and keep them both loyal, or pick one side and the other side goes disloyal. Maybe that's what happened.
@@Disturbance42 Ah, it's so long ago I don't remember that, but that's probably what happened. Back when I played ME3, I played both outcomes, then downloaded an ME3 save file hacker to bring legion back and redid the segment.
Yesssssss, im in my first playthrough of this trilogy. Reaching this point i searched for a video of this choice, and i have everything except i let the geths live in mass effect 2. I was able to make peace hehehehe. What a relieve, this game makes my anxiety worse but i love it!
I believe that when that Reaper speaks how they are "order" to organics "chaos", its a sliver of the original script, where the space faring races are causing the heat death of the universe by using mass effect technology, in other order, "chaos".
Every time I've gotten to this point in the game, I chose the geth because I was never too fond of the quarians. The mission where you are in a simulation being guided by legion made it worse, and now, I can't do it because I've lost one of my mass effect 3 discs.
acturly, its done by points, you can have tali exiled, but you have to destroy the hieratics, as not having her exiled is 2 points, and destroy the hieratics is also 2 points
Ah why do you get troubled by graphics after a few years later... back when I played mass effect I never even thought of it. The expectations will get higher and higher and it will get more and more difficult to meet them from the developer side...
for anyone that wants to know, you can save legion at the end of ME2 you have to gain the loyal of everyone at the end of ME2 survies, but I don't know
I was one of those people that ended up skipping the first two games. Not because I wanted to, but because a friend gifted me ME3 in a time where I didn't have pocket money for games. Kinda sucks that I missed out on a lot of options and choices, but I was pretty satisfied with how the story went despite having no prior knowledge to the game/lore (apart from that opening space battle cutscene in the final missions)
I always get a great laugh by doing the recruit Legion mission 1st and then doing Tali Trial mission next just to tick off the Quarians when I bring Legion on board their ship,always great for a laugh,too bad I can't capture footage from my game,since I don't think anyone has tried that and posted a video of it on TH-cam,oh well maybe I can send someone my ME3 save,who knows.
No matter how many times I do this mission or watch it on TH-cam, it gets pretty damn dusty in the room I'm sitting in around the time Legion realizes the error in simply copying the software code.
Year late but you get points for decisions made in Mass Effect 2. You need a total of at least 5 points out of 7, and you need to do the Geth Fighter Squadron mission for Legion. You need to destroy the Heretics for full points, this gives you 2 (but you can rewrite them if you do everything else right) You need to make sure Tali isn’t exiled without showing the evidence at her trial, this gives you 1 You need to make peace between Tali and Legion after their loyalty missions, this also gives you 1 You need to save Admiral Koris in the mission on Rannoch, which I think can give 1 or 2 not quite sure. At least 5 points and Tali and Legion both alive and loyal, and you can save both the quarians and the geth, and make peace between the two.
Yeah, I tried doing this for like 7 times already, and I've not been able to get those choices, their always locked. I've just about called it quits with ME3.
I was really late for this series. I just finished my first playthrough about a month ago. Luckily, my brother had the series because it's the best! If you have the chance to get it, by all means do so. :D
I recently started the series about a month ago starting from 1 and am almost finished with 3. I went in not knowing got to play the games at all and managed to get almost everybody alive in me2 and a lot of companions died in 3 cuz I did some things wrong, including legion because I wasn’t able to do his loyalty mission in time before the suicide mission started
It's nice there was an option to have a "good" ending for everyone, but when Shepherd has to make hard decisions the story has far greater impact, I think. I can't recall who said it, but at some point it was said that "Flowers for Algernon" had to end the way it did; if it would have ended with everything working out, its poignancy would have been lost. I think the same principle applies here.
GUYS! u can geth both support with cheat.1)open gibbed's save editor.2)go plot 3)open mass effect 3 4)go "integers" 5)priorty rannoch guest(points)= change it 5 or more.its done!
yeah talk to Veetor and the other guy u save on haestorm (both must survive) the are on the left side of the room talk to them once the first part of the trial commences, once the final part of the trial starts rally the crowd
Sure they did , they could withdraw and make peace instead they were to arrogant and got destroyed . Geth just whanted to survive while quarians did acted like utter morons
It's not a mistake. If you make it to where there's peace between the Geth and the quarians, the Geth lend a huge helping hand to the rebuilding of the Quarians homeworld. Not such a mistake then is it?
The real mistake was not creating AI, it how they reacted to making AI. Once you have a intelligent being. You can no longer use them as slave workers and you defiantly cannot try and kill it. This was their mistake, they tried to kill the geth. The geth never went out of their way to kill any quarians, they only fight to defend themselves. The Quarians should have started to give them equal rights, once they found out they had become a AI.
I hate the part where it doesn't matter what you choose... Legion will always died. If he transfer into new body unit. I can understand. But he sacrifice even his own individual code. Which means even in Geth's virtual network. Legion is gone...
I didn’t know what to do in this situation, I was for the first time very nervous of my actions . I was on the quarian side , but felt for all geth. It was 60/40 . But I had made the right choices up until this point , mostly relieved now going forward 😅
I my opinion legion is never truly dead...he is an AI right....only is physical unit is gone ...somewhere in the geth collective there is a fragment of his code still present or alive if u will .
Can I still make peace even if I didnt resolve the legion/Tali conflict? I rewrote heretics I didn't have tali exiled I saved admiral on rannoch and I let the geth squad who volunteered survive
Planning on doing a pro human shepard renegade run who will get most of the alien crew members die in suicide mission, causing him to turn paragon in me 3. In which i will want to have that peace available. Since in me 2 i'll get Tali exiled*, i need Tali and Legion loyalties by calming them both after their missions and destroy the heretic geth base This means i have 3 points out of 7 then 5pts after saving koris and doing geth server missions in me 3 So, even if i get Legion die on purpose in ME 2 ending (making him squad leader on Hold the Line gets him killed), quarians will still be able to ensure peace with Legion's replacement in ME 3? *i have read showing the proofs still makes Tali loyal to you even if she is exiled, but then i dont know where she shows up in 3 cause i guess it's xen going along with you, like in the playthoughs were tali dies
It is based on a pointsystem, you need 5 points or above. -Rewrote the Heretics (0 points) -Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points) -Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points) -Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points) -Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point) -N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point) -N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
I wasn’t even planning on doing this until me3 but I was able to because I did all the loyalty missions, planned for paragon renegade checks and by chance destroyed heretic station
No one said I have to refuse to let the Quarians die first to get those options to not make them attack the geth. I replayed the mission... but actually still didn't work. I have almost my 5th bar of reputation full, I resolved the argument between Legion and Tali in ME2 (but sided for Legion), obviously did both loyalty missions in ME2, I saved the Admiral, I don't get why I still don't get peace options D: Damn it. Maybe the Quarians have to die because they kept bringing that war, I don't know. But kinda sad Tali committed suicide and they just went so far with attacking. I am pretty sure the fact that I kept siding against the Quarians after they did all the shit with the Geth in ME3 was why I couldn't get the peace options.
For make peace you need a lot of things : -Have 4 reputation bar -Save Koris -Have imported a save with : Tali alive Legion Alive Tali's loyalty quest (Tali not exiled) Legion loyalty (Doesn't care if reewriten or destroyed) Tali-Legion fight stopped with reputation And certain people say that other things can change, like punching Han'Gerrel or accomplish Geth fighter mission
This part always was bothering me. Legion has to upload his code and that will make him die. But it's just code,it can be copied with out touching the original.
Hot take maybe but Legion saying Keelah se’lai to Tali is one of the biggest emotional gut punches in the trilogy. Talk about going out like a legend. Keelah se’lai right back at you, Legion.
you're both right the quarians were testing weapons on geth but if they are told the geth will attack the quarians both should stop fighting the war before all are destroyed thank you both tali and legion for helping miss Shepard bring peace to you all
If I don't have enough renegade points or Paragon points to say either of those things to get pieced on between the two then what should I do choose the quarians or the geth?
The Quarians provide a higher amount of war assets. for me the Geth gave 540 ( With the geth server mission ) and quarians were 740 ( With savig Admiral Koris )
I'm so fucking heated. Legion died in my Mass Effect 2 save (Got shot in the head) and I couldn't save him without going back a few hours in the game and I wasn't gonna do that (He was loyal and everything so now im regretting it). So I get to this moment and I have to choose and I don't even get a interrupt. I'm romanced to Tali and obviously I'm gonna go with her but I choose the geth first just to see what happens since i sympathize with their race a bit more (I thought the geth would just retreat, big mistake restarted as soon as they started eviscerating the Quarians). So now I had to end the geth AND feel like a huge asshole at the same time since I'm basically killing Legion again. Oh well guess no harm done since i'm choosing the destroy ending.
Its reputation you need, that means, talking to everyone you met until you startet the mission.
Also like TomZanovich mentioned below, you need:
-Have 4 reputation bar
-Save Koris
-Have imported a save with :Tali alive Legion Alive
- Tali's loyalty quest (Tali not exiled)
- Legion loyalty (Doesn't care if reewriten or destroyed)
Tali-Legion fight stopped with reputation
And certain people say that other things can change, like punching Han'Gerrel or accomplish Geth fighter mission
İ didn't stopped fight with reputation choice. Do i need to replay mass effect 2
I was shouting this when the star child said there could not be peace between organics and synthetics. I JUST MADE PEACE BETWEEN THEM.
+Andrew Bow A shame the catalyst is actually just an advanced VI instead of a true AI and couldn't understand that.
+Andrew Bow The game ended here for me. After this it was just a drag. They should've made the Anderson and Shepard scene the last, a radio of "You did it, reapers are disabled" would've been enough. Then showing Shepard's funeral and mentioning Anderson could seal the trilogy. Shepard gave her/his life and that's it. There was no need for the "playing god" nonsense from whoever with god complex designed. You can't complete a story with multiple endings. It starts from a single point, you can have variations/different choices along the way that creates different plots, but a story ends only in one way with those plots converging at the end. Otherwise it's a mess. So ending vs endings, I always support a singular coherent ending for a story.
Troy Carter I thought that too. It's a shame they couldn't do that so it wouldn't be a hassle to continue the mass effect series. I'm sure Andromeda will be fun but the two stories can never connect unless they choose one of the endings.
+Troy Carter Problem is, the series was always going to endwith you playing god, they changed what the choices were but even the original planned endings were no better.
timemonkey I've been saying these since the original endings. The first time around, I was waiting for shepard to sit with that thing and "hey you're just a child, you don't know the world like I do, you shouldn't play games on your own" :D
as usual Mass effect 2 is the key to everything
LilTRoberts1000 yup unlike telltale your choices do matter
Yeah Boi, completed the game perfectly:D
Agreed
Do you need internet to import saves
Except for saving wrex in mass effect one.
Which hugely impacts obtaining the Krogan army war asset.
"please, this is not justice"
that one hits deep
I'm kind of bummed that there are only two options in the initial dialogue - attempt to deny Legion's request (to which he responds with pleading for his life) or immediately try to broker peace. I wish there was a third option in which you could be more aggressive to the quarians instead. Something like
_- Shepard, you can't choose the geth over my people!_
_- In fact, I can and I will. (Give me one reason not to.)_
There's a Renegade interrupt at 1:21. You can click it to blast the Reaper a few more times and it's super-satisfying.
"Actually, I'll tell them myself"
Strangely, if you choose this, the Reaper's eye is still glowing afterwards.
@@RaxuRangerkingsChannel strangely, pistols will not kill a reaper
@@MultiTwentyseven If I remember correctly you don't blast it with your pistol..
You hit it once more with that orbital weapon, whatever that was again..
One of the better writing bits in the series is that Legion starts referring to itself in singular instead of plural right before it sacrifices itself.
I like the way Legion seems to hesitate when he says "I'm sorry". As if he just realises that he referred to himself as "I" instead of "we" for the first time, meaning he truly gained sentience.
Thats why tali said the answer was yes
I love Legion.... makes me so sad when I see him die but so happy he freed his people
Hes not truely dead he became part of the collective conscious once again before they became sentient.
I finally did it. 3 playthroughs I finally saved them both. I was so happy! Tears in my eyes
Fight for the future where human child can call Wrex an uncle.
Fight for the future where AI and organics will live in peace.....
@@Cheburashka207 Mass Effect told a story far grander than its initial space odyssey set up. This is a story about bitter rivalries between different races that become less bitter in the face of the greatest threat ever known. Enemies become allies. Long lived differences being forgotten. Comradery, that's what Mass Effect is really about. Take the Rachni, for example. You can choose to execute the queen. Or, sympathize with her and let her and her children free. Save her you gain an ally in ME3. I mean yeah you can be a renegade and be an asshole all the time, but certain renegade options kind of break the story? If you play renegade start to finish, what kind of character IS Shepard and why would he give a flying fuck about the galaxy? Renegade Shepard seems more suited for mercenary work, like The Blue Suns. I do tend to play a mix of both though. Paragon when it makes sense or seems the right thing to do. Renegade for battle sequences and general assholes who dont deserve nice Shepard.
I don't get why people would just skip ME1 and ME2 and just jump right into ME3. Like you miss so much lore and story, not to mention the characters. Plus you won't understand any of the references and/or character cameos. Also the fact that skipping games in a story driven video game series where your previous choices count is just plain stupid.
Sure, but By playing ME3 i wouldn't have played the others and become a huge fan that i am now, with hundreds of hours logged on all 3 games and DLC's.
I saw the advertising for ME3 and was quite interested. If i hadn't of sinked my teeth into ME3 first i doubt i would ever get a chance to play the trilogy.
WarriorMaster1693 I started at me3 fell in love with it and wanted more so I beat every game and dlc lol
Well in ME3, if your Shepard isn't a transferred character some of the references don't happen I think
WarriorMaster1693 I did that. I'll see if I can't buy the other games
ME1 is... kinda hard to play today. The story is there, but the gameplay is just... not up to par with modern standards.
That Keelah Se'lai from Legion brought chills down my spine.
I must go to them
- Legion
I will never forget moment Legion with his independence choose to save his people instead rebuilding them from scrap Legion a true hero of the Geth
I love the way everything shakes during this conversation.
TheLiquefied Rannoch trembles at the presence of Shepard
I was shaking in awe while playing this. Happened a lot in me3
I imagine the geth standing on top their fleet simultaneously saying “Keela Se’Lai” repetitively and the Quarians repeat after the geth
I hat how you have to be either pure paragon or pure renegade, I play paragade, so this moment pretty much ruined my playthrough
same
if you import a me3 character you will keep your reputation, if you do that you should be able to make peace
No you don't, I'm like 60% paragon 40% renegade and I got peace between them.
Xerota so why did I have to comite genocide then ?
+Jacob Willis You don't have any natural charisma in real life
I am so proud of my trilogy paragon playthrough. ME1 - saved every one except Kaidan, chose Anderson for the council. ME2 - Got all the loyalty missions and character confrontation right. Got everyone alive at the last mission (second try) ME3 - Cured genophage, saved bith the quarians a d geth resulting in peace and even managed to get some salarian help although the council salarian gal bitched about it. Everybody came out alive except mordin and thane. And at the end destroyed the reapers and got out alive with approximately 8000 war points and 100 percent readiness. And my character looked awesome. All without having a single look online. I just got *every single thing* right.
*legion also died*
*and from the first time* heck I'm wasting time.
You achieved what most players consider the ideal ending. Except the Ash haters, they'd dispute that. Romance anybody?
@Shia Tuhaczekif your character dies your a heartless bastard that is a awful ending
I have a question, i had rewrite the heretics in ME2, does this have affect on the peace?
Honestly this right here would have been a great moment to reveal tali's face. Few seconds of looking out into the horizon of Rannoch before she slowly turns to Shep, tears running down her face as she says, "Right now, I have this."
The whole Photo thing was a bigger disappointment thing than the endings.
I did EVERYTHING except for the geth server mission because it's glitching out and is impossible to do AT ALL. And no peace.
I played through all of the previous games, did all loyalty missions, saved Tali from exile without exposing her dad, shut her and Legion up with mah paragon charisma, saved Admiral Koris and STILL NO FUCKING PEACE!
Some people just want to see the world burn
Am I wrong? Their "keelah se'lai" being the space equivalent of "allah ackbar". You're alright, sir. May you have access to your 72 virgins.
Same thing happened to me
Andromeda Kai you need four bars of reputation to get the options
@@ebe7157 it's fuckin 2019 2:15am and I'm in the living room in tears at this comment 😂😅
I must go to them
..... :,( he's now an individual.
The DLC's never effect the main story, so peace is possible without DLC.
Wow. How nonchalant is she about legion's death. i would have been bawling my eyes out.
This is the ending I wish I got on my first playhthrough. Had to do complete other ME1-2-3 playthroughs to get it.
Struggled to get this ending and finally got this ending
To get any decent ending, you need to work hard in each game and with the greatest of empathy.
*Legion must survive in ME2*
With the Geth VI replacement in ME3, you don't get the paragon/renegade options to broker peace.
I knew you would make the right choice, Shepard
Ye a
Certainly one of my favourite scenes in the mass effect serie, and maybe in sci-fi universes in general; this is so satisfying...
in ME3 it doesnt matter how much renegade or paragon you have. You need to have the appropiate reputation to get blue or red answers.
I just got this first time cos my Shepard is awesome
When I watched The Expanse for the first time I immediately recognized Chrisjen Avasarala's voice but couldn't quite pinpoint where I've heard it before since I didn't recognize the actress. Well, after watching this Video I suddenly realized where I have heard it before and that Admiral Raan was actually voiced by Shohreh Aghdashloo.
Just started watching the Expanse and can confirm this is the exact thing that happened to me.
Even after this many years this still makes me cry a little haha
I just got to this part, but I couldn`t save both of them, since my Legion died in ME2.
At the end of ME2, you have to choose someone for a mission, in which they'll probably die. They said it would involve hacking, so the logical choices were legion or Tali, but you can pick whoever you want. Its ironic that the logical choice screws you over in the long run.
Legion must not have been loyal then. He's actually one of the logical choices, between him, Tali and Kasumi Goto. If he died on that mission, he was not loyal.
@@Disturbance42 I did every single 'loyalty mission' that I had a chance to do, didn't he have a mission where you had to decide whether to reprogram or destroy the bad Geth? I chose destroy, maybe that's why he wasn't 'loyal'.
@@totesMagotes83 Yes, that's his loyalty mission, but picking Destroy or Rewrite does not affect his loyalty, however after his loyalty mission, Tali and Legion fight and you must either use extremely high Paragon or Renegade to diffuse it completely and keep them both loyal, or pick one side and the other side goes disloyal. Maybe that's what happened.
@@Disturbance42 Ah, it's so long ago I don't remember that, but that's probably what happened. Back when I played ME3, I played both outcomes, then downloaded an ME3 save file hacker to bring legion back and redid the segment.
@@totesMagotes83 It was either that, or you picked the wrong character for the Fire Team leader.
Yesssssss, im in my first playthrough of this trilogy. Reaching this point i searched for a video of this choice, and i have everything except i let the geths live in mass effect 2. I was able to make peace hehehehe. What a relieve, this game makes my anxiety worse but i love it!
Spent so much time trying to get enough paragon to do this option, I had more than 60 percent paragon and that wasn't enough....
God damnit.
This brings old memories, kinda misty eye watching this again!
I believe that when that Reaper speaks how they are "order" to organics "chaos", its a sliver of the original script, where the space faring races are causing the heat death of the universe by using mass effect technology, in other order, "chaos".
My god thank you, I've tried so many times to fix this, and you just saved both fleets.
Every time I've gotten to this point in the game, I chose the geth because I was never too fond of the quarians. The mission where you are in a simulation being guided by legion made it worse, and now, I can't do it because I've lost one of my mass effect 3 discs.
By it, I meant bringing peace to both races.
acturly, its done by points, you can have tali exiled, but you have to destroy the hieratics, as not having her exiled is 2 points, and destroy the hieratics is also 2 points
Ah why do you get troubled by graphics after a few years later... back when I played mass effect I never even thought of it. The expectations will get higher and higher and it will get more and more difficult to meet them from the developer side...
Thank you,this helped me so much.
for anyone that wants to know, you can save legion at the end of ME2 you have to gain the loyal of everyone at the end of ME2 survies, but I don't know
can i still save the quariens and geth if leagion dies at the end of me2?
no, if you have the loyalty on ME2 you can save him, but on ME3 I'm pretty sure he sacarfices him self to save the quariens and geth
i messed up so hard on this one ...at least Legion survived :P
played through the trillogy now I am starting again and yes I will be paragon 100%
So heartbreaking that we will likely never see another mass effect game, EA killed the series with Andromeda.
You couldn’t really carry on the story of the original 3 but at least they’re all getting remastered
Ummmm haha well...
There will be a new game but it won't be the same and same with dragon age 4
I was one of those people that ended up skipping the first two games. Not because I wanted to, but because a friend gifted me ME3 in a time where I didn't have pocket money for games. Kinda sucks that I missed out on a lot of options and choices, but I was pretty satisfied with how the story went despite having no prior knowledge to the game/lore (apart from that opening space battle cutscene in the final missions)
This is one of my favorite moments of ME3.
I always get a great laugh by doing the recruit Legion mission 1st and
then doing Tali Trial mission next just to tick off the Quarians when I
bring Legion on board their ship,always great for a laugh,too bad I
can't capture footage from my game,since I don't think anyone has tried
that and posted a video of it on TH-cam,oh well maybe I can send
someone my ME3 save,who knows.
WHY MASS EFFECT DO YOU MAKE ME LOOSE MY BEST FRIENDS LIKE LEGION, MORDON, GARRUS, AND ETC WHY!!!!! :(
No matter how many times I do this mission or watch it on TH-cam, it gets pretty damn dusty in the room I'm sitting in around the time Legion realizes the error in simply copying the software code.
Omg I haven’t seen this scene in forever. God legions death got me in tears all over again. God I miss that AI.
Commander Shepard, only man who can stop a war by yelling at people.
Ok can I ask how did you get those other 2 options I keep getting options [Upload Code] [Let Geth Die]
Imported ME2 save? All Rannoch missions completed? (Geth fire squadron base) Tali exiled? Legion loyalty mission completed? Etc etc
@@rusty6789 What if I got Tali exiled?
@@jackpadz6079 If you got tali exiled, then you won´t be able to do what was shown on this video.
How dp you get the red and blue choice?(3:11)
Year late but you get points for decisions made in Mass Effect 2. You need a total of at least 5 points out of 7, and you need to do the Geth Fighter Squadron mission for Legion.
You need to destroy the Heretics for full points, this gives you 2 (but you can rewrite them if you do everything else right)
You need to make sure Tali isn’t exiled without showing the evidence at her trial, this gives you 1
You need to make peace between Tali and Legion after their loyalty missions, this also gives you 1
You need to save Admiral Koris in the mission on Rannoch, which I think can give 1 or 2 not quite sure.
At least 5 points and Tali and Legion both alive and loyal, and you can save both the quarians and the geth, and make peace between the two.
Yeah, I tried doing this for like 7 times already, and I've not been able to get those choices, their always locked. I've just about called it quits with ME3.
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If I ever get mass effect I’m starting from 1-3 I have seen so much of the game but never really decided to get it yet.
I was really late for this series. I just finished my first playthrough about a month ago. Luckily, my brother had the series because it's the best! If you have the chance to get it, by all means do so. :D
tigttfn I found 1 and 2 on steam but steam does not have the 3rd game
I recently started the series about a month ago starting from 1 and am almost finished with 3. I went in not knowing got to play the games at all and managed to get almost everybody alive in me2 and a lot of companions died in 3 cuz I did some things wrong, including legion because I wasn’t able to do his loyalty mission in time before the suicide mission started
It sucks because Legion died in the suicide misson in my playthrough so I couldn't do this... RIP Tali
Jacob Nelson So you got both of them killed. Congrats
Now I'm totally confused afer reading the comments, seems I'll just stop Playing the game then...
Ok
'You exist only because we allow it, and you will end, because we demand it.'
It's nice there was an option to have a "good" ending for everyone, but when Shepherd has to make hard decisions the story has far greater impact, I think. I can't recall who said it, but at some point it was said that "Flowers for Algernon" had to end the way it did; if it would have ended with everything working out, its poignancy would have been lost. I think the same principle applies here.
I’m not crying YOU’RE CRYING!! 😭😭
GUYS! u can geth both support with cheat.1)open gibbed's save editor.2)go plot 3)open mass effect 3 4)go "integers" 5)priorty rannoch guest(points)= change it 5 or more.its done!
yeah talk to Veetor and the other guy u save on haestorm (both must survive) the are on the left side of the room talk to them once the first part of the trial commences, once the final part of the trial starts rally the crowd
I do not understand why most of the people decided to save the geth and not the quarians at the first time.
Because the Quarian's were being dicks?
Justin Barrett They weren't dicks, they understood the mistake of creating bodies for AI
Sure they did , they could withdraw and make peace instead they were to arrogant and got destroyed . Geth just whanted to survive while quarians did acted like utter morons
It's not a mistake. If you make it to where there's peace between the Geth and the quarians, the Geth lend a huge helping hand to the rebuilding of the Quarians homeworld. Not such a mistake then is it?
The real mistake was not creating AI, it how they reacted to making AI. Once you have a intelligent being. You can no longer use them as slave workers and you defiantly cannot try and kill it.
This was their mistake, they tried to kill the geth.
The geth never went out of their way to kill any quarians, they only fight to defend themselves.
The Quarians should have started to give them equal rights, once they found out they had become a AI.
I got this ending, NEVER knew you could off the Quarians and Tali suicide
I hate the part where it doesn't matter what you choose... Legion will always died. If he transfer into new body unit. I can understand. But he sacrifice even his own individual code. Which means even in Geth's virtual network. Legion is gone...
3:11 how come those options aren't just.... there from the beginning.
Damn I did not get the blue and red option for this part so I guess I'm screwed either way 😟
thank you man I didn't really know that they can be pieced together
I didn’t know what to do in this situation, I was for the first time very nervous of my actions . I was on the quarian side , but felt for all geth. It was 60/40 . But I had made the right choices up until this point , mostly relieved now going forward 😅
This only shows Shepard doing it, not how to do it. You need to be paragon, shut down server and save the admiral. Otherwise no option of peace.
You can do it renegade.
First time playing this.
I saved the geck not realising the consequences now I feel so bad and have onset depression. Need some kind of therapy
I my opinion legion is never truly dead...he is an AI right....only is physical unit is gone ...somewhere in the geth collective there is a fragment of his code still present or alive if u will .
I wanted to do a playthrough of the trilogy, but got everyone milled on the suicide mission.
Can I still make peace even if I didnt resolve the legion/Tali conflict? I rewrote heretics I didn't have tali exiled I saved admiral on rannoch and I let the geth squad who volunteered survive
Planning on doing a pro human shepard renegade run who will get most of the alien crew members die in suicide mission, causing him to turn paragon in me 3. In which i will want to have that peace available.
Since in me 2 i'll get Tali exiled*, i need Tali and Legion loyalties by calming them both after their missions and destroy the heretic geth base
This means i have 3 points out of 7 then 5pts after saving koris and doing geth server missions in me 3
So, even if i get Legion die on purpose in ME 2 ending (making him squad leader on Hold the Line gets him killed), quarians will still be able to ensure peace with Legion's replacement in ME 3?
*i have read showing the proofs still makes Tali loyal to you even if she is exiled, but then i dont know where she shows up in 3 cause i guess it's xen going along with you, like in the playthoughs were tali dies
Thanks. I didn’t know you could achieve this. I always wanted wondered if there was a way.
It is based on a pointsystem, you need 5 points or above.
-Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
-Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
-Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
-Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
-Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
I wasn’t even planning on doing this until me3 but I was able to because I did all the loyalty missions, planned for paragon renegade checks and by chance destroyed heretic station
No one said I have to refuse to let the Quarians die first to get those options to not make them attack the geth. I replayed the mission... but actually still didn't work. I have almost my 5th bar of reputation full, I resolved the argument between Legion and Tali in ME2 (but sided for Legion), obviously did both loyalty missions in ME2, I saved the Admiral, I don't get why I still don't get peace options D: Damn it. Maybe the Quarians have to die because they kept bringing that war, I don't know. But kinda sad Tali committed suicide and they just went so far with attacking.
I am pretty sure the fact that I kept siding against the Quarians after they did all the shit with the Geth in ME3 was why I couldn't get the peace options.
If this isnt a mod, i had no clue there could be peace between the Robots and quarians.
Not a mod. It's honestly one of the more difficult things to do because there's a certain order. But, it's not impossible.
For make peace you need a lot of things :
-Have 4 reputation bar
-Save Koris
-Have imported a save with :
Tali alive
Legion Alive
Tali's loyalty quest (Tali not exiled)
Legion loyalty (Doesn't care if reewriten or destroyed)
Tali-Legion fight stopped with reputation
And certain people say that other things can change, like punching Han'Gerrel or accomplish Geth fighter mission
This part always was bothering me. Legion has to upload his code and that will make him die. But it's just code,it can be copied with out touching the original.
You have to do the server mission on ranoch before this to get the option
that repper soons like something tron would use
Did legion said I must go to them 🥺 he always said we
yes I imported a char and I defended her in ME2, so she looks innocent
Hot take maybe but Legion saying Keelah se’lai to Tali is one of the biggest emotional gut punches in the trilogy. Talk about going out like a legend. Keelah se’lai right back at you, Legion.
Agreed.
Nah, even when I meet requirements for peace, I help the quarians win. Not gonna trust a computer program to consider with living things.
Well thats impossible for me I have 3 and a half of reputation, I have 2 missions which is to save Koris and the Geth home type of thing.
Damn, I didn't import my saves from ME2, in return the game made me responsible for the genocide.
on my mass effect 3 I didn't get that option to say the hell with it tali just killed her self
you're both right
the quarians were testing weapons on geth but if they are told
the geth will attack the quarians
both should stop fighting the war before all are destroyed
thank you both tali and legion for helping miss Shepard bring peace to you all
thanx for this, saved me making horrible mistakes
If I don't have enough renegade points or Paragon points to say either of those things to get pieced on between the two then what should I do choose the quarians or the geth?
How? By yelling at them of course
The Quarians provide a higher amount of war assets. for me the Geth gave 540 ( With the geth server mission ) and quarians were 740 ( With savig Admiral Koris )
Why the hell didn’t I upload my ME2 character....
I'm so fucking heated. Legion died in my Mass Effect 2 save (Got shot in the head) and I couldn't save him without going back a few hours in the game and I wasn't gonna do that (He was loyal and everything so now im regretting it). So I get to this moment and I have to choose and I don't even get a interrupt. I'm romanced to Tali and obviously I'm gonna go with her but I choose the geth first just to see what happens since i sympathize with their race a bit more (I thought the geth would just retreat, big mistake restarted as soon as they started eviscerating the Quarians). So now I had to end the geth AND feel like a huge asshole at the same time since I'm basically killing Legion again. Oh well guess no harm done since i'm choosing the destroy ending.
I managed to get this on my first playthrough.
Oi você sabe me informar se depois desta missão você fica com a arma (eu escolho o lado do legião )