Why Disney Can't Let Go of the Past
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- The age of the Disney Renaissance has become the age of the Disney Remakes. There doesn't seem to be any IP that is safe from the Disney remake machine--but how did we get here? How did an era of innovative films such as Beauty and the Beast, the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Lion King and more become an era of endless remakes? In this video we break down the history of the Disney Renaissance, and how it became the age of he disney remake.
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Written by Bevin / bevinbatspice
Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Randolf Nombrado, Lee Mazzio, and Brianna McLarty
#LittleMermaid #Disney #DisneyRenaissance
While Disney was saving money, they were not pushing the needle forward in artistic innovation. Many animators grew frustrated with the cost-cutting technique finding it creatively stilting. One long-time animator who felt this way was Don Bluth. He left the company during the production of Fox and the Hound to start his own rival studio, Don Bluth Productions, which delayed the film’s release by six months. (clip)
His first feature under his production house was The Secret of NIMH, whose story was initially rejected by Disney for being too dark. During this period, his company would become Disney's main competitor in the animation industry, with their Steven Speilberg-produced American Tail beating out Disney’s The Great Mouse Detective as one key example. Bluth’s departure was a kick in the ass, and Disney needed to regroup.
Recognizing the dire situation, Roy E Disney hired former Paramount Pictures, Michael Eisner as CEO in 1984, and Frank Wells, of Warner Bros. Pictures, as president (clip). Michael additionally brought his Paramount associate Jeffrey Katzenberg on board as studio chairman, whose job would be to oversee the animation department. (clip) The company also recently had a new influx of animators who had joined the company after graduating from CalArts who were itching to pull out their ink brushes. Jeffery, in the beginning, would clash with the animators over (clip) of the animation process; if one could edit the animation, for example. (clip) Nevertheless, the return of Roy E and the arrival of Michael, Frank, and Jeffery would make them the four horsemen, not of the apocalypse-as the animators first thought-but of the Renaissance.
Those interested in learning about the transition period between the Bronze Age and the Renaissance age MUST check on Waking Sleeping Beauty on Disney+. It’s a great watch.
Doug: Why is it called Waking Sleeping Beauty?
You’d have to watch it. But one factor is that the Renaissance marked the return of fairy tales which Disney hadn’t produced in 30 years. The last one being…?
Doug: Sleeping Beauty?
Yes!
Fairy Tales used to be the staple for Disney studios, and the time had come to bring them back around. If fairy tales were returning, so must also the musical formula. Not that Disney hadn’t been utilizing music, they just hadn’t used a book musical script in a while. Musicals help solidify story beats since music can strengthen memory and attention (clip)
This is why The Little Mermaid signals the start of the Renaissance. It was their first fairy tale in 30 years, the first film to bring back the Disney Princess, and the first film to utilize the genius of Howard Ashman and Alan Menken (clip). Howard was instrumental in the musical numbers and the script of the three Disney films he worked on. He would also coach the actors on their performances in the sound booth. Returning to this format helps Disney market its IPs to the public, cementing its characters into the zeitgeist. (clip)
Man, did the profits come rolling in, making over 200 million worldwide and garnering critical acclaim and a higher weekend gross than Don Bluth's All Dogs Go to Heaven, which had to feel great. (clip)The Little Mermaid also earned Ashman and Menken their first of many Oscars. Well, for Menken, that is. Howard Ashman had been diagnosed and would not live to see his work on Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin nor be present when they would win for best song and score for both. It was a devastating loss for the company. (clip)
Alan would go on to be involved with three other Disney Renaissance films, winning 8 out of the total 11 Oscars received by Disney during this decade. Films that underperformed with critics and at the box office, such as Pocahontas and Hunchback, were salvaged by the stellar score and songs provided by Menken and his new collaborator Stephen Schwartz.
Ironically, now is the time for Disney to pick up the 2D mantle once more, given the incredible toolsets and workchains now available to them. Given the lack of such films in the marketplace and the overabundance of CG titles, it would certainly give them back something unique amongst their rivals.
Yes. I'd love to see more animations in the world
That would be nice
I miss 2D animation, to be honest.
Just forget Dizzney.
Disney own Pixar. Also Wish movie releases end of the year
I'd prefer Disney focus on new stories rather than remaking the old ones. If I want the nostalgia of watching Disney movies from my childhood, I'll watch the movies from my childhood. Somehow the live action versions just...make me sad. I've quit watching them, even once.
Especially because they are changing the stories and the characters was too much. It has ruined some really good classics and iconic characters.
How do time travel to "keep moving backwards" from remakes from what the great Walt Disney said!?
The problem is, the new stories they’re coming out with aren’t very good 🫤
@@Dawnchaser115 Since most of Disney's films are adaptions, I think Disney might have runout of ideas after Frozen???
@@orangeslash1667Frozen is just a mixture of Tangled and the Lion King.
I think the widespread use of VCR players really had a lot to to with their sucess during this era. The 90s is when parents started occupying their kids by popping a tape in the VCR. I remember how my younger sister watched little mermaid almost daily. It created a generation obsessed with those movies because they literally watched them over and over every day. When i was the same age, kids only watched cartoons on saturday mornings or you had to see it in a theater.
And that is why we hate the reimagined ones that just took a dump on characters that are intimately known,like family because we watched them over and over again.
Yeah I watched Lion King and Toy Story on repeat
Except they lose money now coz nobody is interested in a political activist reinterpetation of succesful classics, bad writing skills, bad acting and bad CGI, that's modern Disney in a nutshell. The company has become a shadow of it's former self.
I did the same thing with DVDs.
It wouldn't be as bad if the movies were actually good, and did the originals justice.
Yeah. I agree with that.
Hard to disagree with you there.
Beauty & the Beast, Dumbo, Aladdin was good.
But see here’s the problem. Purists want it to be the same as the film while others wish it transformed it.
@@Knightowl1980 idk who watched the originals and said they need to be transformed... they are among Disney's most successful movies of all time.
Still waiting for the inverted 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' live action remake where Eddie is animated and Roger is a real rabbit.
That actually sounds pretty cool
I'm still waiting for the sequel
Not gonna lie, I’d watch that.
RIP Bob Hoskins 😭
I wonder if a real-life Jessica Rabbit would be ..... a bit too much??
I live in Japan, and the amount of merch they sell based on Ariel/belle/Jasmine (and Elsa) is insane. It easily outsells hello kitty or whatever here. My daughter, who is training to be a voice actor now after high school, , is right now singing ‘Part of your world’ (in Japanese) in the shower (really! It surprised me to hear the theme as the SC video ended). The core Disney European fairy-tale princesses have a huge huge following in Japan and other counties worldwide. There is an army of teens and 20-somethings (like my daughter) who follow Ariel wherever she goes, and middle schoolers who can’t see these characters at the local theater (very popular here still!) unless it is one of these remakes Disney releases.
This is just an assumption but I feel like I've noticed this too when I lived in Japan, but do Japanese people consume more Disney merchandise than they do for anime merch? It seems like Disney is such a huge part of Japanese culture the same way anime is becoming more mainstream and popular in the U.S.
What people tend to forget is this isn’t new for Disney. They used to re-release older movies in theaters for new audiences (and money). Then that switched up to home video re-releases and the “Disney Vault” (to drive demand). This is the same thing but with a new spin of “live action”.
And even when they first started making movies it was by remaking public IPs: Snow White, Cinderella, Pinocchio, Sleeping Beauty, etc.
And who can forget all of the unnecessary direct to video sequels
@@TankTheArtist777 who can Forget them? Who can remember them?
Releasing is different from remaking
Kind of concerning how companies pass on knowledge how to manipulate the masses. Yet most decent parents aren’t going to spend time parenting against corporate grooming. Why is a children based company have to be so concerning
It may not be without flaws, but the Cinderella remake is easily the best out of the live-action remakes.
100% agree!!
In my opinion, it has no flaws. It’s perfect. A perfect telling of the 1697 tale. The animated one was good, but this version told the story better.
@@selinapersaud7629 RIGHT? It literally has NO flaws.
@@demoura6738 it truly was the best.
See i keep hearing this but i dont understand why most ppl never even mention it, out of all the remakes ppl never talk about Cinderella, only the few who have seen it say how good it is. I think ppl don’t want to admit there’s an exception to the rule of bad Disney remakes becuz lets be honest, Cinderella is a story you can improve on
I have always been far more interested in the original animations than in the live-action remakes. In my mind there is no comparison in the creativity and artistry.
Add to the problem with Disney live-action remakes the fact that their classic characters will, sooner or later, be going into public domain- as Winnie the Pooh did this year-so remaking animated movies into live-action versions is the studio's way keeping posession of "classic" source material...
Doesn't really apply to the remakes of Renaissance-era movies tho, cos those wont hit the public domain for almost a century
@@owenopi8694Do you think Disney isn't planning to be around after 100 years? Trust me, they want to, so it does affect them.
Obviously it affects them massively, and Disney is trying to work around the copyright expiry thing in other ways - it just isn't really relevant to this discussion about live action remakes.
Making a live action remake doesn't really do much to prevent copyright from expiring - case in point, Disney made a live action Winnie the Pooh five years ago, and it did nothing to stop the copyright expiring so Blood and Honey could get made.
Making a new adaptation doesn't extend the length of the copyright of the original material, it just gives you new copyrights over the new stuff that's added in the remake, nothing more.
Pretty sure Disney doesn't own most of their classic characters. Not Snow White, not Mulan. They made a lot of their money on many public domain stories.
I thought it was only the book that were going into public domain. And I thought that that was happening in 2024.
I may be the only one who can say this, but I haven't seen a single Disney live action remake of one of the Renaissance films. And for some reason I feel I haven't missed anything!
not the only one
I did the Cinderella one was actual good I did not like the classic of it at all. And Beauty and the Beast was not to bad at all. But this one was last movie I watched with my mom before she passed away so it has another meaning to me as to anyone else.
I can say the same
Well lucky you! I've watched Beauty and the Beast and Mulan, killed my nostalgic instantly cause the magic was sucked dry. Both were remakes of my favorite and it made me a critic of these remakes since.
Surprisingly did not hate Dumbo or The Jungle Book remakes, probably because I have no ties to the original and it was fine. Though I feel like none of these could ever surpass the original, so what even is the point of continuing remakes if not money.
👏 Good for you (really though, not sarcastically).
Disney at this point is simply a logo and "Disney Magic" is simply a corporate slogan. It's a walking corpse... the zombified husk of a once-legendary creative powerhouse that has been clinically dead for over 25 years. We've got to understand that great art is made by people, not corporations. A logo and a slogan does not make good video games or movies or TV shows. Once the great creative visionaries have moved on or been replaced, it doesn't matter if it says Disney, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, Marvel, BioWare or whatever... it's just a brand name... a gimmick. It's far from any guarantee of quality, let alone any magic at all.
I disagree. Disney has produced many great films and TV shows in the recent years. The live actions just isn’t part of it.
I disagree to an extent. Those logos and what they represent often attract talent and artists. Young artists grew up with these brands and want to be a part of them. Nintendo for instance has done a very good job of maintaining quality throughout the decades and with various creative teams.
@@tesslichtman7302 The last really great original creation from Disney was Wall E, and that came out 15 years ago.
@@DoingOK If I were a young creative, there's no way I would work for today's Disney. It is so corporate, the definition of corporate. It is the kind of organization that sucks its staff dry of any individualism and churns out cookie cutter product devoid of any talent or charm. It's where you go if you aren't really very good.
@@popculture70 I think Disney has come out with other good movies since then. Such as Coco, Encanto, Turning Red, and while I know it is overrated, the Frozen franchise. They have also come out with amazing TV series, such as The Lion Guard and Elena of Avalor, and are making spin off series’ of Moana and The Princess and the Frog, both of which sound exciting.
Cinderella and Jungle Book were welcomed for what they added to the story and the cgi innovations respectively. Everything else is CGI nightmares.
100% agree
Jungle Book added nothing to the story.
Yeah I actually really liked the Jungle Book remake. Probably because it’s basically the same exact story, but they don’t do the lion king thing where you can’t see emotion on the animal’s faces
@@vetarlittorf1807 but at least it much closer to the book version, like buffalo herd scene and wolf parents giving more screen time
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 No. It's not closer at all. It just has a few more references to the books. The original actually got Mowgli's personality right. In the cartoon, Mowgli was at odds with his nature because he had no perception of humanity due to having never met another human and as a result he was insecure and rebellious. Just like book Mowgli was as a kid. And this complexity is nowhere to be found in the remake, where Mowgli is a Gary Stu.
Furthermore, cartoon Shere Khan is closer to the book Shere Khan than the remake version. While he's not a crippled coward like in the book, cartoon Shere Khan has his lordly mannerisms whereas remake Shere Khan is an impulsive psychopath.
Lastly, Raksha is nowhere as badass as she was in the books.
The quality is this videos is remarkable. Great content great balance and timing. Kudos to all the production and editing and writing team
Current Disney animation has clearly found their match yet again with its competitors, Dreamworks and Sony creating successes like Puss in Boots 2 and Spider-Verse in pushing the boundaries of animation. They better prove that they still got the innovative touch with their next film Wish, so here's to hoping but I'm not holding my breath.
Not with their current main priority which is 'Make Sure The Lead Actor/Actress Is Either Black Or Female Even If Those Characters Who Are Almost A Century Old And Is Known And Meant To Be White'
@@shaunharn1998agreed.
90s kid here, i dislike the remakes, they pale in comparison - especially music-wise. I always assumed they chose renaissance era for remakes because the kids that saw the originals are now taking their kids to the movies. I figured it was cashing in the parents' nostalgia.
RIP to Howard Ashman, what a legend.
As a fellow 90s kid these remakes are utterly soulless compared to the originals. The Renaissance era films will always be dear to me and I have no respect for the live action remakes whatsoever.
People talk about the death of Kurt Cobain, but the death of Howard Ashman was just as impactful, if not more so. There, I said it. The man almost single-handedly saved an American institution: the Disney theatrical animated feature. I’m almost tempted to think Alan Menken was just along for the ride. Menken without Ashman gave us *Newsies,* a movie that should have been made by any studio but Disney based on their treatment of its workers, especially now. Ashman without Menken gave us *Smile,* a flop musical adaptation of a very funny R-rated movie from the 1970s. But together, they were magic.
"Well, the people at Disney have a different thought process than Walt Disney when he started. He just wanted to have fun and tell stories for children... great imagination. People today want to rearrange everything and have nothing new to build on, and since they are not happy people, they can't make happy movies. I'm glad you recognize the differences being made. " Mentioned by my Grandma Georgia.
YES, to answer your question, I’d love to learn more about the people behind Disney! You guys did an amazing job with this one!
I personally would like a live action version of Atlantis
I second this motion!
That has the potential to be better than the original if they make it a PG-13, more mature approach and not a kids movie. Same with Treasure Planet tbh.
Me i like one of tiana
THIS
As long as they stick to the story, and don't make milo a woman, yes!
The paint by number line is a perfect way to describe what Disney is doing why can't they develop original content is very mind blowing considering the amount of money they make
The company is afraid to take risks. That's because "Traditional" families want something to coddle the kiddies more often than not. While that's all well and nice. This kind of Nostaglia sometimes does more harm than good. But I digress.
Disney's (un)original content vs public domain
You are kidding me!! They make new princess all the time. They just don’t rush it! Why do you care if they remake it. So because you didn’t like it. It shouldn’t be no more. My daughter loved it and thought the mermaid are real. That should be taken away from her. Cuz grown ass women. Thinks the original is better! No shit it’s the original. I went to the movie for the little mermaid when I was a child, and now I am able to bring my own daughter to the movies. To see the little mermaid. Why hate so much!
@@Goneinsane616 I understand why you like that Disney is remaking their old movies in live-action, but there's something else they could've done which might've satisfied you. They could've rereleased the original animated movie in theatres with a live orchestra to make it worthwhile. This would give you a similar experience with your daughter as you got by taking her to see the live-action remake, while also satisfying the people who don't like the remakes. Truthfully the live-action remake of Mulan was terrible. My mom whose never even seen the original animated version also thought the movie wasn't good, so that's how you know it's not just nostalgia. 2015s Cinderella was good, I like how they added science which improved upon the original and it wasn't just a shot-for-shot remake like some of the other movies. The other remakes aren't awful but there's zero point to them aside from money, so Disney would have been better off re-releasing the original animated movie in theatres with a live orchestra.
@@rayanvij3457 I honestly love every Disney movie and remake. I’ve loved every mcu film. And Disney plus series. And to be honest I wouldn’t of taken my daughter to rewatch the little mermaid cartoon.That movie is played all the time all the original play non stop in my home. Watching my daughter watch a real human dress as mermaid. She started clapping and telling me mommy look a real mermaid. The new song that was added I loved them! Especially scuttlebut! Was amazing and my daughter was laughing the whole time. I love mulan. It wasn’t a musical, my daughter didn’t really pay that much attention to it, but Aladdin and lion king. Cinderella. Have been amazing and we watch them all time, Making remakes just help grew a bigger fan base for the movies. We should welcome this. Why can’t they do both. Why take it aways from my daughter. Because you are fine with the original. Just don’t watch it, the little mermaid was amazing, Halle is Ariel! She is the perfect mermaid!
Disney should take some notes on how they did the Narnia movies. As it was made in 2005 the CGI still stands today. Everything looked realistic enough, and was bright ,and colourful.
And animals characters far more expressive than Lion King remake, despite look as realistic
I remember seeing Beauty and The Beast in a theater when it opened, and hearing a loud collective audible gasp from the audience when it showed the ballroom dancing scene. No one had ever seen effects like that in animation, and it clearly wowed the audience. In recent years, it feels like there is little originality left when it comes to the types of media that are currently being created and released. Not just movies (ie: the Force Awakens rehashing A New Hope), but also tv shows and music. Seeing so many ideas rehashed, recycled, etc, it feels uninspired. That's a big drawback with the live action Disney remakes. My family has only seen one of them, and it definitely just didn't hold up or feel impressive. I hear the claim "it'll introduce it to a new generations". How about coming up with something new, creative and fresh in which that new generation can be be proud of and claim as their own instead?
Three main problems with the live action movies: 1. A dark/muted palette that is in direct contrast with the bright and colorful originals. 2. Inanimate/humanized characters that are made to look realistic, so there is no emotion on their faces as there was in the animation, and 3. The insistence by the show runners to 'fix problematic themes and storylines'. They not only change the look of the characters, but they also change (or mute) their backstories and motiviations, thus making the story less interesting.
You know what they say: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Though apparently Disney doesn't know!
They’ll have to take the whole company to Tool Time to see if Tim and Al can fix it.
I wouldn't have a problem with the remakes if:
- Disney still made good original 2D animated movies
- The remakes actually had a purpose in expanding upon the original movie's story/doing something different, but still keeping the magic of the original
- They weren't remaking a remake of Moana which isn't even 10 years old yet
- They didn't overwork their VFX team so they could create visuals on par or at least closer to what the original movie looked like
For those reasons I think Cinderella(2015) is the best remake because it actually does expand upon the story of the 1950 animated version.
That's why I think the older Disney animated films are better suited to remake in live action because the writing of the older films wasn't as good as the Renaissance films, which gives Disney the chance to bring those movies to life, but also expand upon the story. They had a perfect option with Sleeping Beauty(1959) because of the amazing visuals that are also not too hard to adapt to live action, and the lacking personality of characters like Aurora which they could have expanded on. Sadly, they chose to go for the completely rewritten story of Maleficent(2014), which also undermines what makes Maleficent such an iconic character in the first place.
I only compare it to the 1950 version to say that the live action did it better. The 1950 version was trying to adapt the 1697 version of the tale, and it was good, the live action just did it better. Everything from the darker tone, to the darker lighting, to the grandiose costuming was on par with the version they were trying to represent.
I think the loss of Ashman was the biggest hit. Yes they had Lion King, but outside of that they never really connected it all together in the same way. Taking nothing away from Miranda... but Ashman is mind behind my favorite Disney films and musical (Little Shop of Horrors).
If they didn't have track record of making the exact same movies but in live action i would be actually excited for a live action Hunchback. A dark PG-13 musical for that would be _phenomenal._
Disney can totally let go of the past. The people who can't are the audience who make these remakes earn a billion dollars every time. They're gonna keep making them as long as people keep paying to see them. I'm proud of the fact that I'm not one of these people and have never seen a Disney live action remake
Aside from the movies, it's the theme parks that reflect Dizzney's stance on keeping the IP to themselves and trying to milk their products as much as they can. The new, black Little Mermaid theme is currently replacing the original Ariel, and there's the newly opened severely unpopular, overpriced Star Wars themed hotel. So nope, Dizzney can't let go of the past just yet, they're still investing in their products.
Imma keep watching them. I literally watch the originals and the remakes all the time. My daughter loves both . And I will keep giving my money to Disney’s. The new little mermaid. Is so damn good and beautiful!
Which is exactly why I decided to totally boycott them when I heard about the Lady and the Tramp remake.
They screwed over Peggy Lee with the original video release of the 1955 film. Now they’re screwing her over again with this! Her contribution to that movie cannot be underestimated. She didn’t just do the voice of a dog and two cats. She co-wrote the songs, too, and convinced Walt Disney to spare Trusty from dying at the end. She earned every dime of that settlement. The new one looks like a cheap, generic bastardization of a film that was one of Walt’s favorites. You can hear the genuine love with which Diane Disney Miller introduced the film when it was released on Blu-ray.
These remakes are like spray-painting graffiti on the walls of the magic kingdom. As a result, more kids care about the mushroom kingdom.
Whether it’s Disney, Don Bluth, or Pixar. I need only these three things: Innovation, Intelligence & Great Music.
Ditto 👍🏾👌🏾
More animation history! Tell us about the animators and techniques!
Isn't the point of these Disney remakes to ensure they indefinitely extend the copyright? These will all definitely be remade again.
And again and again, in various ethnic permutations...
@caronstout354 more skin tones more toys and merch. The merchandising and theme park elements are what they make money off of. They can use black Ariel for another 95 years and white Ariel for another 60 years based on the current copyright laws. Why not sell products that use both images. Two different mermaid costumes. Both red hair but one with braids. $$$$ But there are other economic reasons for making changes like that. Asia and African countries are on the rise it make since to actually bet on emerging markets. I was them I would create a princess from India next.
@@benjaminfletcher6632Didn’t they cast a part Indian Jasmine in the Aladdin live action remake? And parts of that story did kind of mix up Middle Eastern/South Asian cultures. But then again it was a rip off of Richard Williams’ “The Thief and the Cobbler” which modeled after Persian culture.
Oh by the way, Big High five to whoever decided to use so many cuts from Pete's Dragon. That was one I watched over and over as a child....y'all really hit my nostalgia button today! Seriously, I just went and bought the movie!
I love Pete’s Dragon!
LOVE THE PETE’S DRAGONS CUTS! Yes! Dark ages are the best!
All live actions should go straight to Disney+
I totally agree with you about the art direction especially certain shots as you've pointed out which lack focal points so much so that we as audience don't know what / where we should be looking at great analysis as always Ryan I really enjoyed it.
I wish Disney would stop the live action remakes & make original content.
Me too.Unfortunately, they refuse to listen to the feedback of potential customers and keep putting altered live action remakes on a conveyor belt and spitting out soulless unoriginal cash grabs
I am loving the Doc Terminus "Every Little Piece" cuts throughout...thank you.
I think it's a mix of all sorts of elements: CGI being the trend in animation right now, the nostalgia train at an all-time high, and the overall appeal people have towards Disney and their respective properties. Money is probably the biggest factor at play, and they will continue to make these soft-hitting films until the profit ceases to end.
Live action Aladdin was a lot of fun and I can very much appreciate both Genies
I was 5 when The Little Mermaid came out and every year after that had awesome Disney hits! I didn't even grow up in America and Disney had such an effect in my life. The kids who were kids during the Disney renaissance are now parents who would love taking their own kids to these remakes. If I had kids, I would definitely be taking them to see this hoping they would love it as much as I loved the OGs when they came out. I've personally thought the remakes were okay. But I was apalled when I saw The Jungle Book because I felt it was a scene by scene remake of the classic 🤷🏻♀️ I'm going to watch The Little Mermaid, but I have skipped the others that they made - usually the remakes from older Disney films. Seeing the reactions/reviews of them, I was right to avoid them.
I recommend watching the documentaries Waking Sleeping Beauty and Howard. They are all about the start of the Disney renaissance - and Howard is about Howard Ashman.
I wish Disney would use the whole live action thing as an opportunity to remake some of their movies that are great but underrated/ didn't do so well at the box office: Atlantis, Treasure Planet Aristocats, Great Mouse Detective, The Rescuers - these movies have large cult followings built up through VHS and DVD releases over the course of the 2000s, and those ppl would turn up in droves to the theatre to see them (and definitely bring their kids), while everyone else would just see a new interesting idea, and not necessarily have the original film in mind to negatively compare it to. Disney would still make a ton of money probably, but have the chance to actually improve on the original movie and make something truly great, rather than what's happening now where these remakes are guaranteed box office, but always underwhelming from a critical standpoint.
But of course, the Mouse only cares about one thing at the end of the day...💵💵💵
No i don't think a live action Rescuers would do well. It would be probably be a Disney + release like Lady and the Tramp or Pinocchio
@@radrobd123 I think a live action Rescuers would outperform expectations (esp if they didn't go for Lion King-esque photorealism but went for a style a bit more like Stuart Little or the recent Chippendales movie), but you're right that it wouldn't be a box office smash.
Even in the context of a D+ release, I'd rather see them remake lesser known/ underrated but cult movies like the Rescuers than iconic movies like Pinocchio that everyone already knows.
Generally, none of the ideas in my original comment would be be huge box office hits (except maybe Treasure Planet, with the right cast), but I think they'd be more interesting movies. Disney's obviously gonna go with whatever makes them more money in the end though.
I don't wanna hear any Cinderella (2015) slander, since that was the ONLY live-action remake that can justify its existence -- the story expanded on the original, the script was well-done, cinematography was great and costumes were incredible. This is the only remake I always see discussed as the exception, but it, alongside Malificent, was responsible for the live action shitstorm we have today because they slowly decreased in quality when Disney realized they don't have to do something creative or expand upon the original to make truckloads of money anymore. Here's hoping Little Mermaid with Halle will be decent!
I would ADORE a series of video essays on Disney’s greater animators. Talk about a TH-cam video dream come true!
Would love to see The Black Cauldron get the proper treatment.
Awesome video essay! Love these kind of videos
Having seen the new Little Mermaid the best parts were when they decided to completely rework the scenes of Ariel getting to know Prince Eric. Amazing how not railroading yourself to a previous narrative can make for enjoyable content. Unfortunately the rest of the film was filled with the same soulless CGI "live action" that Disney has been churning out.
THANKS for this!!! Funny beginning followed by an excellent explanation!!!!
I am LIVING for all the clips from the original Pete's Dragon in this video. 💚
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen! Not just from this channel, but on film-review-tube. Great Work!!
I think the problem is that Disney forgot what it was supposed to be
They also forgot the lesson of their OWN MOVIE Meet the Robinsons: "Keep moving forward."
@@artbytesiameet the Robinsons was based loosely on a book by the man behind Rollie Polly Ollie.
It's actually really simple to explain: the renaissance era not only has some of the best Disney movies, but kids who grew up with those movies (as opposed to Mary Poppins, or Pinocchio, for example), are now the demographic with money (and very likely families).
So they are using nostalgia, yes, but coasting on their biggest successes, at a time where the nostalgia hits higher (around the 30s/40s).
It's usually the same pattern, what's regurgitated is from when the middle aged (hopefully) with expendable income and a nice big family, were kids.
I could imagine a live-action horror movie retelling of The Hunchback of Notre Dame that’ll be darker and more mature than the Disney movie and just as dark as its source material!
Buddy Hackett was Scuttle, but John Candy was in Splash.
Esmeralda was not over sexualized. That’s how frollo saw her and how she is described. It’s how she made her money.
Completely agree, and I’d still rather re-watch the original, beautifully animated, versions than the CGI live action versions any day.
I can imagine Disney doing live-action remakes of The Black Cauldron and Atlantis: The Lost Empire that’ll actually be way good and better than their disastrous animated counterparts!
Atlantis was actually good, it just wasn't financially successful. The Black Cauldron may be one of the weaker Disney movies, but it was as good as you could expect an adaptation of the first two books in a five book series. It would work better as a series.
Oh yeah, I would love a Black Cauldron remake. I actually really liked that movie...I remember it came out of the 'vault' when I was a teen, and I thought it was pretty good! It's based on a book series that they kind of mangled, but I could definitely see a good epic-fantasy style movie (or series) out of that. But it's an obscure enough movie that it would feel a bit fresher.
@@hannahbrennan2131 Yeah! A five season animated series and a five entry movie series!
What a brilliant deep dive. Thank you.
I want Disney to bring back the 2D animation again, with some new untouched fairytale.
A Fairytale Story from the Book of the Mabinogion, of Wales/Cymru 🏴
I'm glad you kept using clips from the song Every Little Piece from Pete's Dragon. I love that movie and that song.
I'd be ok with a live action from Disney, if it wasn't a remake or something I've seen before.
I'd be kind of curious to see something like Atlantis or Treasure Planet. Unfortunately from what I recall, that didn't make as much money at the box office and I think they were considered failures. They probably had more popularity on VHS back in the day with people renting them and getting fond memories that way. I know their prime goal is to make the most money possible as part of the bottom line, but the live action remake trend just feels kind of meh in my opinion. I mean nice if some people are getting some joy out of these movies. But none of these remakes have really sparked much interest for me. :( I'm hoping they figure out some of other nice movies.
I have to be honest that every single time you cut away to Pete’s Dragon I never saw it coming, and I started laughing every single time
It's not just Disney. Hollywood has been relying on sequels and remakes for some time now. They are afraid to try anything new or just lack creativity. As a huge Indiana Jones fan I find there is no need for another movie and won't watch it. Especially since the last one sucked.
Disney did a bunch of remakes in the 90s and early 2000s. Parent Trap, Flubber, Freaky Friday, Homeward Bound were all remakes.
No one criticized, hunchback for having a problematic script or tunnel issues. It is the most totally accurate and sound animated film we have ever gotten and it is brilliant. People didn’t like it because it was too dark and catered more towards adults than kids. And they even criticize that they tried to add the comic relief of the gargoyles. I wrote my senior dissertation on this movie.
That depends on what your definition of accurate is because that movie was not really accurate. It was mostly accurate, but the ending wasn’t, so it’s not completely accurate. I would’ve appreciated an ending similar to the one in the book, there is just a way to make it less dark.
@@selinapersaud7629Esmeralda gets hanged, and Quasimodo dies cuddling her corpse. I think Disney was wise to change the ending.
@@CanadianMonarchist I understand that, but they still could’ve stayed more true to the original. Mainly by having them end up together since she lives in this one. Also, he wasn’t necessarily cuddling her corpse. He was spending his life starving to death by her grave. Not too much better, but not the way you described.
@@selinapersaud7629 I thought their bodies were found with him embracing her; it’s been a while since I’ve read it.
Great editing and cuts in this - I especially love the “you lose” Willy Wonka!
I would like to see a live action Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Please more animation videos from Screen crush :) The animation industry has been struggling this past couple of years so it would be nice to have some positive videos about 2d animation, and if it more than just Disney would be awesome!
As an adult I grew up on the animated version, and I don’t mind the live action, because I’m not the targeted audience “children are” and if they like it I love it. The only problem I have is seeing overgrown adult’s whining, and being hateful over children movies “you can have your nostalgia the animated versions aren’t going anywhere , calm your grown self down, and let the kids enjoy stop poisoning the younger generation with your left over hate.
This, exactly. No one has to go see these movies. I don't understand getting so worked up. If the kids enjoy it, that's wonderful! And it's not like the originals are going anywhere (speaking of which, I'm now going to have to watch the original "Pete's Dragon" after all the clips in this video). I haven't seen many of the remakes, but the ones I've seen-- mainly while hanging out with my niece--have been entertaining, mostly because she was so into it.
Disney is poisoning the younger generation quite well on its own, thank you.
No parents want to take their kids to go watch a black mermaid, Why would you want to glorified a race that cause nothing but destruction and violence, we don't to encourage our kids, that these people are good people because the majority aren't, there I said it
Maybe it's a little selfish, but I fear children will appreciate these mediocre ,ugly , cash grabbing live actions than the original movies 😅
No bc the live action are made for nostalgia and those that grew up in the originals. Live actions intrinsically are set to be the “mature/realistic” version of the originals on purpose, they have a dark undertone to them. If they genuinely wanted to appeal to children they would’ve made 3D or 2D like they normally do.
Also the adults that are making criticism which you label as “whining”, care about the films integrity and that ijs loyal to some degree of the original so their kids would be blessed with a great story like they were when they weee that age watching it. Only adults are going to call out the BS other adults in these corporations are doing. Some stuff these corporations poop out are agenda/political driven, so I don’t blame parents for monitoring and criticizing content that is made for their kids to watch. Every parent has the right to judge what their kids watch, end of story.
I remember Lilo & Stich coming out to not much fanfare as Disney gave up on 2D. I was blown away watching it with my kids. I was waiting to hear about that film’s role in this saga in this video.
These animated movies are my childhood they gave me the rich, and vibrant imagination that I have today truly heartbreaking to see Disney turning everything so ugly Walt Disney would have sued all his employees for this one.
That was awesome. Can you make a video about Don Bluth's company? I loved every movie you mentioned and didn't even know this mans name.
After I learned about live action Moana, I'm worrying what's next.
Lilo and Stitch will be nightmare fuel
disney to continuously make movies on these to maintain the copyright. As things stand now, the original Mickey Mouse will be public domain in 2024. But Mickey we are familar with will remain copyright protected. Basically, as long as they keep reimaging the same characters, they can retain the copyright indefinitely
@@benjaminfletcher6632 copyright is 70 years. They are far less time than that. Moana is what ten? Lilo and Stitch is what 20. Most of their films like Sleep Beauty, Snow White, The Little Mermaid are Grimms Fairy Tales. It’s creative bankruptcy. That’s why they are remaking them. Most of their “IPs” are stolen anyway…. Look at the lion king.. stolen from a Japanese film.
@@benjaminfletcher6632 Pooh is now public domain..which is why there is a "Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey"...
I see it similar to a jock or cheerleader trying to relive their glory days when they peaked in high school.
They should stop remaking the movies that were successful. They should try something new or remake the ones that under preformed like treasure planet, Atlantis the lost empire or meet the Robinson.
Exactly. Give underperformed movies a second chance to become popular!
This was such a great video. I loved your warning about damaging the IP with these boring remakes.
I haven't watched a single live action Disney film. The whole point of Disney is the animation lol
You are truly missing out. What a shame
@@Goneinsane616 they look terrible and I don’t want to spend my time comparing it to the originzl
@@si_quest that sucks. They are so beautiful. And add details that we just had to imagine for the original. It will never be the same. But they are so damn beautiful. What a shame you can’t enjoy them aswell.
These disney videos in the absence of star wars and marvel content has been a great change of pace. I'd love to see more, especially with specific directors, like tarantino, wes anderson, etc :)
Simple answer: Greed, pure greed.
more videos like this. I like the history essay format.
What's the best live-action Disney remake?
I don’t know. I haven’t seen any of them…. Go figure that one out.
I enjoyed maleficent I guess. Haven't seen most if the rest.
Favreau did it right, twice. No one else has.
Cinderella and the only movie that deserves a remake is the Black Calderon, if I had casted the Horned king is Willem Dafoe with Andy Serkis and Christian Bale as alternatives
@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat did he though? Like both movies felt and looked like disappointments
Great video.
I especially loved the usage of the original "Pete's Dragon" to discuss crappy remakes. 😁
The only Disney remakes I enjoyed so far was Alladin and Maleficient
Even though, I am a huge Disney fan, I’ve only seen the Beauty & the Beast live action remake in theater, but I definitely plan on going to the Little Mermaid with my daughter.
I don't have a kid but I was in the original demographic. Loved Mileficent since it was a fresh take off an old story. Don't recall seeing Cinderella and hate-watched Aladdin. I do appreciate updating some of the more wooden characters but most of the revisions are unnecessary or still tone deaf (see Mulan lacking Asian screenwriters). I almost wish Disney would just go full throttle Marvel style live adaptation of animated stories. I think it would retain the right amount of nostalgia while properly acknowledging that I am not a child anymore and would drag my niece/nephew to a more PG-13 friendly adaptation of my favorite instead of them dragging me.
Yes to learning more about the animators! As an artist I’m so inspired by their art!
Because they are creatively bankrupt. It’s easy money because Momos will continue to watch them. Even though thy are awful. Let’s not forget Mulan was filmed next to a Uyghur Internment camp. Than Disney publicly thanked them.
Love the Lindsay shoutout. That Robin Williams video is one of her most watched for a reason. ❤
I thought they were remaking them to erase the now problematic language, and also keep hold of copyrights. I hate the live action versions - they don't hold up anywhere near the animated versions. The only one I liked was Cinderella, I then watched B&tB, Dumbo and TLK and thought, no more. I'd rather watch something new.
Please do the video essays of the animators!!! It’s a great topic that would be perfect for your channel!
You want Disney to stop making these? Stop buying tickets, because these halfhearted live action remakes make $$$$$$
imagine being a parent, I would buy disney movie tickets to give my children that disney experience I had when I was a child, I want them to experience being imaginative, so I wouldn't have any choice, by far disney is still my standard of building a children's imaginative world, I may think otherwise if they started putting off curse/r-theme to these tales just to go with the times/trends today lol🤷♂️😅
The Bronze Age were some of my favorite Disney movies. Aristocrats, rescuers, Robin Hood, are all wonderful
The Lion King is the best one, I don't know what kool-aid y'all are gulping - it's a perfect balance of photo realism in aesthetic while being as closely faithful to the original's beats as possible - so EXACTLY what it ought to be.
It's SUPPOSED to be an innocuous novelty of nostalgia. Misson accomplished, along with a stunning high water mark set in plausible vfx for natural and groundsd looking cgi animals and environments.
The Great Mouse Detective is one of my favorite Disney movies.
Truly a hidden gem!
Omg, love the Pete's Dragon clips! Criminally underrated film.
Love your videos and channel - but quick correction- that's not Roy O Disney at 2:04
Agreed. I don't know who that is posing with Walt, but it certainly is not his brother Roy.
I watched those classics and it inspired me to want to do animation n I got a degree in animation only to find the industry outsourcing animation to china and India. Now I’m an electrician but I still revere these Disney classics.
The Beauty and The Beast dance scene was legitimate art. In art history at college it got a chance to go frame by frame and all the details. I remember it being a spectacular shot but didn’t know what went into it’s creation.
The money excuse is running out and I'm so damn happy. These films are not making much money right now because i think we're all getting tired of cash grabs with zero heart and substance. If these upcoming movies dont make near what they want, hopefully it'll force change
Thank you scream crush for me finally saying correctly. They're not remakes their live action versions I love that.
I was 13 when I saw Aladdin in Sony Theater. I didn't know what I was watching or why that magic carpet scene looked so different but even then I realized it was something new and very special
I wish they would do something like they did with the remake of Cinderella (2018) it’s a classic story that’s been told time and again. But they added new things to the already established story that made it feel fresh but familiar in a very charming and pleasant way. Adding the relationship between Kit and his father. Giving Prince Charming a name, a personality and to have Kit and Cinderella meet before the Ball. Giving a small glimpse into why the “Evil Stepmother” has the outlook that she does. The revamped version of the Fairy Godmother was completely different from the original animated version but the role felt new. Even something as small as seeing Cinderella’s mother at the beginning. It was always the same story but they took the time to flesh out parts that we didn’t really get to see. I love it and I truly believe that was one of the few, honestly maybe the only Disney remake that did the original animated justice