After reading all these comments, am i the only one who feels sorry for poor codsworth for being alone for 210 years and still trying to take care of the house ;_;
"Father" is not your son he is some random bad guy that runs the institute. That 10 year old shaun is the real one if you play the game further shaun is being controlled by the institute. explanation if shaun is 60 years old and kellog is in his 30-40's when shaun was captured why is shaun older than kellog?
+RjGhostWizard The funny thing is, some of NV's events are recognized in 4, but are simply glossed over. Now here's something we must have; LW meeting TS. Their locations are pretty damn close to each other, and - if I'm not mistaken - the Glowing Sea might overlap both maps. Or, at least, finding LW's gear over there, just to tip the hat to them.
+TehUnoman Well, there is a lot of room for DLCs. For example, the Institute and the Brotherhood fighting for another-high-tech-pre-war-creepy-lab-complex, with the Lone Wanderer leading the Brotherhood forces.
@@elite4vlogs754 I always thought about that. There could always be the chance that they're straight up lying. Wouldn't be the biggest cover up in history.
konnor cahoona I know, but for me I just can't kill him. But I did kill them (the Institute) after Shaun died in the story. Never regretted that decision. Lone Survivor: My baby's dead, now prepare to die. Institute: O_O
The female SS during this sounds like she's on the verge of a massive grief induced mental breakdown when her son doesn't recognize her. Male SS is pure justified anger. A protective father who's internally panicking. He sounds pissed but he's under complete anxiety and confusion. GOD THESE VOICE ACTORS ARE SO GOOD.
+Jesse Goodwin their should be a unique dialogue when that happens : Lone survivor : yeah about you’re dad/mother … it wasn’t the one that came whit me in the vault .
That is possible. Almost every family tree has mix in it, which means that most everyone has a recessive trait of a different color. Usually every 1 in 4 offspring have that recessive trait. I know a person who both her and her husband have blonde hair, yet one of their four children has red hair. Genetics.
+Issack Marquez A mother has bore a child into this world. Or, if you are rebellious, she has bored a child into this world, because fuck the Grammar Police, am I being detained? >:D
This scene always gets me kinda emotional. Your family and the world you fought for just taken away and killed before your eyes. You not only soon realize that you missed out everything in your son's life, but that he's now an emotionless douchebag who defends the institute for killing his own mother and your spouse, and taking him away from you. I can only imagine how hard it would be to finally find your missing child and him not feeling like your child at all. Just messed up.
Nah, if you have enough Charisma, Shaun will tell you that he was sad about Nora’s death and has spent most of his life broken about what happened to her.
The Institute is doing the best given the situation. The situation is messed up so there’s not really much more. You can really get mad at them for. Sean had 60 years to get over his mothers death so course he 10:38 is gonna sound like a douche, but his hearts in the right place
"the player has been through a lot is an understatement!" he fought super mutants and other despicable creatures, swam in radioactive water not to mention a green sea of toxic waste, discovered every hick town east of brotherhood and cannibalized gross human remains, then at the end discovered his son is biologically older than him and the leader of a secret society full of cowards and scientists. um yeah.....really bad timing
Shaun: But, what matters now is that you and I have a chance to..."begin again". Damn, Shaun if you want to begin again you should visit Sierra Madre son!
FUCK NO! I fucking had it with that place and the fucking god damn gas and the whole collars beep beep beep bullshit! And I couldn't even get that many gold bars it was just like congratulations you just finished the most unfair dlc in history now FUCK YOU no cool rewards! FUCK SIERRA MADRE!
+Justin Archibald Don't worry I understand and to rub the salt upon wound I manage to take all 32 gold bars out the Madre! I buy all shiny guns from Gun Runners after that! (xD) Heck, If my Courier have rank 3 strong back perk like Sole Survivor it would make thing easier!
I always have a hard time killing Baby Shaun because of the tapes Father leave behind "If you are hearing this, then the time has come. I am gone. I can no longer look after young Shaun. I hoped that you might be willing. He has been reprogrammed to believe he is your son. I hope that was not too presumptuous on my part. Both he and you deserved a chance to... To be a family. Please, take care of him." damn that shit hits me like truck
Yes, shaun is your son, but is he really? He's basiclly the institutes child. They raised him and made him who he is, the Brotherhood is the only family you have left in the commonwealth.
I'm waaaay too late, but can you blame him? He didn't had a father/mother while growing up, but he's still your son. He's still that baby that your wife/husband held when both of you were running towards the vault. The one that you took care of. The one that you were afraid to lose when the bombs exploded. Shaun became the best he could in that cirscunstances. Even if he was a complete psychopath, i would still comprehend and accept him as my son. Look at all the things he had to go through when he was just a baby. His world got destroyed. One of his most important figures was killed right in front of him. Still so, he managed to overcome ALL of this and become the leader of the institute that captured him. I'm fucking proud of my son LMAO
I honestly died in a way I can't explain when I found out about this. They just outright took my baby, killed him and replaced him with this monster. Shaun was such a good little man in Kellogg's memory, so polite and kind! Then the spirit of that kid died for this grimey old man. Honestly, I could not cope. I was so triggered I killed the entire institute sigle-handedly with my power armour and got banished the second I left. Not that there was _realistically_ anyone left in HQ to keep me out, but the game didn't recognize that so even though I murdered every synth, scientist and the very leader in their facility, NPCs still talked about the Institute like it existed. Guess the kid NPCs left in there just took over the family business real maturely, huh?
omggsgsvwjwb nooo we’re never gonna live this down. I can imagine that upon learning that the person who did romance danse is going to have an awkward conversation once they get back
During my first playthrough I socked Shaun in the face and killed him, then did the rest to the whole Institute. Only later did I find out the old guy was shaun, not the little boy. Damn you my blood thirst!
+The Crew A.S.S.I it seems so, but i haven't seen any version of Shaun with a dramatically differing facial structure, they all seem to look about the same, apart from their skintone and eye color.
+Alex Hooi Yep that was clear, I remember one asshole on Steam started to spoil it in the comments on every early review from users already playing from 9th November xD It was hilarious and sad at same time, he spammed it to everyone so it was impossible to don't read it, more harder to forget it but now I finally discovered from myself... Btw, I tried to kill Shaun but nothing happened to story XD I was excepting a "Time Paradox" like MGS3, but after killed him nobody even noticed it so i saved and try to come back to Commonwealth but no mentions on Shaun's death, wtf? XD
Tes Fallout I did too, but he's the founder of Institute, so he's the villain, plus he's not even surprised for his mother dead, so I shot him first time I saw him but nobody around noticed and just keep going...what's fun is even during the last mission (I choosed to Nuke the Institute with the Brotherhood of Steel) and guess what? His dead body was still there, i was WTF? XD
Illusion Spark beat the Institute ending, it explains everything: he does feel bad but remember he has been alive for so long he already dealt with the pain, The Institute is not evil what so ever they just are trying to rebuild humanity under ground with synths
neeveekins Baby Shaun is different to old Shaun. Baby Shaun has many potential futures that depend on his upbringing. Old Shaun had his path laid out for him
Sadly....I was expecting this scenario happening. Don't get me wrong Fallout 4 is a great game I am just disappointed in this being the big plot twist...
No in truth I was expecting this because it made sense logically. Shaun was removed from Cryo at an unspecified time and taken by certain group. We are frozen again for an unknown amount of time. If you were frozen longer than him no doubt we would see him as an adult. And if he was with the Institute for his entire life no doubt he learned and followed their beleifs
+Scott Price Yeah, none of my friends believed me when I predicted the twist before we saw this scene happen. Still an really enjoyable game like you said, but I wanted my expectation to be wrong :P
+Scott Price I thought he was going to be the eight year old kid we see with kellog. I didn't believe father either, since I found it strange Kellog would look the same that long. But then it's explained
@@quarlalexis9082 it kinda makes rp hard, I liked the voiced protag cuz I hadn't played fallout before but now that I've played the other games I get where they're coming from
Father: He hasn't told you what happened to your son. Aedan: I know what you did. He said you took him. Father: No Aedan, I'M your son. Aedan: No! It's IMPOSSIBLEEEEE!!!!
+_Rakeial I plotted to destroy the institute after this chat, I was gonna murder the heads of all of the institute departments and Shaun at the same time, but there's another twist that happens that made me change my mind.
I hate playthroughs where the user only chooses the "bottom choice" on the dialog wheel - which is always the "good" choice. Have some variety, get angry and mean sometimes. Even sarcastic.
I guess it's different with other people I rather hate it when people pick the angry and sarcastic choices makes them sound like a jackass really. Buts that probably do to me being a polite and open minded person.
I think he just wants the player to be different because in a real life scenario you wouldn't be able to be that good. But if the player is trying to get a specific ending then I can see why someone would play like that. Both sides have good arguments and I think that playing both ways is necessary to explore the whole game.
I’ll admit, the first time I played through the game and experienced this, I was absolutely blown away. The writing, the plot twist, it was all spot on, and it was really thought provoking for my 13 year old self. But it goes from 100 to 0 as soon as you reach this point, and it has ZERO replayability value. Once you experience it once, the magic is gone, forever.
how old was kellogg then? 60 + his age when he took shaun, sure he was part snyth due to technology enhancements. (edit: wish I never asked) (edit: how do you delete threads aaaa) (edit: please, this was a year ago. Im a changed man! I know why now, please stop with the messages and insults D: )
+Leyse Beard Both the thumbnail and the title only spoiled THAT you find him, nothing else. From that you could just as well assume you found his corpse or something. Watching this is really just your fault.
2:57 "So yeah dude, I know you are in the middle of something... but I just wanted to remind you that you leveled up and can pick a new perk........................ ok bye." Damn pop-ups.
I really feel like the Sole Survivor was made to be female. I've done this section as the female protagonist. And her voice acting was so unique here. When I agreed to stay at the Institute, She gave a deep breath and a sigh... before agreeing. This one felt so... rushed..
I guess it's my bias for now. I'll finish my male character run within the following weeks to see it myself. But I was a tad disappointed in the male version of finding Shaun.
+Travis Gibbons Yep , I have both playthrough . Male (BoS) & Female (Institute) and my female character was very emotional . I also felt like this story was how a mother lost his son and not a father type kind of like .
I have defeated the institute and BETRAYED shaun, but not for the brotherhood, FOR MY WIFE, FOR ALL THE "COLATERAL DAMAGE" THEY CAUSED IN THE SURFACE. Was my decision ok?
I created an imaginary sequence where my character shoots Shaun and goes on a rampage around the institute only for him to die and come back to the real world(aka I went back to my last save) where he's having this conversation with Shaun.
***** u must be like 12. Kid everyone saw it comming. It was obvious after u went frozen again he got older. Sorry if your so simple minded and can't even tactically think ahead of situations.
+Thomas Noorlander I remember making a joke to my friends that Shaun would be an old man since you fell back into cryo-stasis for a while. Turns out I was right.
I actually have you to thank for this game. I came across your vids randomly and decided to give it a try. At first, I went through the presets hoping to get someone who looked like your Nate!
+ryan ruland Omg.... perfect idea: someone needs to take the "Shaun" sound files from Heavy Rain, mod them into Fallout 4, create a character that looks as similar as possible to Ethan, and press X to Shaun during this scene. xD I can imagine it now... "I am now it's lead-" "SHAUNNNNNNN!" "I'm sure you have-" "SHAUN!" "I am-" "SHAUNNN!"
This is such an emotional scene, I tear up every time. Seeing father and son, reunited after all these years, stand statically in front of each other, while one belts out awkward exposition...man, Bethesda really outdid themselves this time.
Accepting the fact that one day your kid will be an adult is one thing, but this... this is completely something else. How can he possibly cope with this after everything he'd already been through?
I am so glad that I gave the institute a chance. The whole game up to that point paints them as the bad guys, but it only takes a couple missions to see that they are CLEARLY the good guys.
It's a very murky water to swim in to call them the "good guys". They kidnapped people from the commonwealth and replaced them with synths so they could experiment on them with f.e.v. Not the good guys in my book.
Matt Allen The Railroad are bad guys who don't realize they're bad guys. They THINK they're doing what's right, but they are potentially destroying the entire human race.
Lord Gaben I know we all got extremely emotionally attached to Paladin Danse, but think about it this way. If "judgement day" was looming in the near future and the only thing that could save humanity from a future synth control/extermination scenario, would they not want to destroy any and all machines? Bearing in mind that these are military tacticians, I think they are completely selfless in truly trying to save humanity, even if it means cleansing the brotherhood from the inside out.
Wouldn’t Shaun also have been exposed, having left Vault 111 with Kellogg and the Institute Scientist, before eventually going to the Institute? There had to be a time where he was exposed, as during Kellogg’s memories it shows him in a house, but not in the Institute.
The Institute can teleport, and everyone sans Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes in the opening cutscene is wearing a Radiation Suit. I have a feeling Kellogg is pretty much their Wasteland contact until he gets murked and replaced by you. Unless you go Minutemen/BoS on their asses.
i love villains who aren't all bad. like it's actually plausible to agree with them, their goals, and their point of view. to really empathize with them really makes any story (video game or not) much more meaningful and complex, in a good way
I haven't done the danse romance yet. Waiting for my wife to make a female her in the game so I can play as her. She wants to be with the brohood and since I did as well we came to a compromise, and I don't get to be the brotherhood.
Just reached now and I was literally WTF? I was already when I saw Shaun grown during Kellogg quests, and now he's 60 years old? So, if I get it right, the game starts at 2077 right the day of Great War, then you run into Vault 111 with Nora and Shaun as baby, then both enter the cryopods, then Kellogg kills Nora (or Nate) and kidnap Shaun, then it looks like you wake up after 200 years in the 2277, but how it is possible that Shaun is 60 years old?
Its basic maths. The cryo-stasis pauses their ageing process. Your character is released 200 years after going under, maintaining his age. If Shaun/Father is 60 years old, then he was taken from the vault 140 years after going under. Remember, the Kellogg memory sequences are just that; memories, and clearly Shaun isn't a 10 year old, meaning Kellogg lied.
No you leave the vault after 200 years. But remember you were disturbed by Kellogg and he took Shaun then you went back to sleep. So he took Shaun 60 years ago before you left the vault.
Alright, you found your son... Now, another settlement needs your help; I'll mark it on your map.
lol
Lol Exactly Like Skyrim
Filip
Oh ok then *goes to the fucking settlement*
Random guy: HELP!!! RAIDERS!!!
Me: fuck you *shoot fat man to settlement*
No! *Shoots Preston*
@@onemanarmy9426 *rapes Preston*
After reading all these comments, am i the only one who feels sorry for poor codsworth for being alone for 210 years and still trying to take care of the house ;_;
And the car. The CAR! How do you polish RUST!
THE RUST
Im also sorry for codsworth imagine the loneliness he experienced for 210 years
@@DanF5264 forget that! He spent the first 10 YEARS trying to clean the floors, but nothing gets out nuclear fallout from vinyl wood.
@@DarkSide-Lord I'm surprised a smart ai like codsworth could not invent a way or figure out how to polish rust!
*kills Kellogg*
"I never liked your fucking cereal anyways"
ha
I actually said this when I killed Kellogg: "I always hated your Frosted Mini Wheats!!!"
+Jason9811 the first time i heard his name i just said "well, i guess that he's a *cereal* killer" and laughed until the morning after.
I guess you could say Kellogg was cookie crunched in the end :D lolk I'll go.
😭😭😭😭😭😭
how awkward when you meet your child... older than you in realife :v
+DARK GEAR “NP96VH” Interstellar? where?
Lol yeah. It happens everytime to me Rofl
+DARK “NP96VH” GEAR yea really really akward hi son ur 30 hes 60
"Father" is not your son he is some random bad guy that runs the institute. That 10 year old shaun is the real one if you play the game further shaun is being controlled by the institute.
explanation
if shaun is 60 years old and kellog is in his 30-40's when shaun was captured why is shaun older than kellog?
but kellog have insitue implant to live longer than normal human :v
He met his son, but his son doesn’t look at him the way a son looks at a father. What a tragedy
True, first time i played fallout 4 I was kinda disappointed by Shaun's reaction, so cold
How is he gonna treat the Sole Survivor like his father when they'd been separated their whole lives?
@@camila_costa12he never knew his dad though
i thought at first that Father turned my son into a synth and shot him as soon as he went inside the room
Lol
Lol same bro
lol
you fucking idiot!
+TheHarslord lol rekt
Lol fallout 3 is looking for your dad and fallout 4 is looking for your son what a coincidence
+RjGhostWizard The funny thing is, some of NV's events are recognized in 4, but are simply glossed over.
Now here's something we must have; LW meeting TS. Their locations are pretty damn close to each other, and - if I'm not mistaken - the Glowing Sea might overlap both maps. Or, at least, finding LW's gear over there, just to tip the hat to them.
+TehUnoman
Perfect actually: This is 10 years after F3 and 6 after NV.
A 10-year badass Wanderer.
+TehUnoman Well, there is a lot of room for DLCs. For example, the Institute and the Brotherhood fighting for another-high-tech-pre-war-creepy-lab-complex, with the Lone Wanderer leading the Brotherhood forces.
And in fallout new vegas you're looking for a.. ummm... Platinum chip or something?...
Maddix For a guy who shot you in the face and went off with a platinum chip. Yeah.
Star Wars vibes here...
"You kidnapped my son."
"No, I am your son."
truly a reverse star wars
I think they should have changed his name from Father to Shaun after you find out.
Maybe he never was shaun?
@@elite4vlogs754 yeah that's what I thought
@@elite4vlogs754 I always thought about that. There could always be the chance that they're straight up lying. Wouldn't be the biggest cover up in history.
ELITe4VloGS He does a lot of stuff that would be really stupid otherwise... plus the fact that his appearance changes depending on your characters
@@Greigames I made my character black and shaun turned out the same, there's no doubt he is your son
Father's voice is so.. calming.
Probably Morgan Freeman?
@@zoy13 that's not Morgan Freeman lmao
@@zoy13 It's Tony Amendola, he played Master Bra'tac in Stargate SG1
shaun u are grounded
+RjGhostWizard *ba dum tsss*
flaminfier lol
hahahahha
@RjGhostWizard Undergrounded
For 2374627736472726363 years go to your room now.
Darn,... I wish there's a option to have a hug between parent and child atleast. T_T
yep
+Santo Tan That was the one thing that really fucked me off!
first thing that came to mind was "hug it out damn you!"
+Santo Tan are you serious? The institute was an evil organization. I killed him right there.
konnor cahoona I know, but for me I just can't kill him. But I did kill them (the Institute) after Shaun died in the story. Never regretted that decision.
Lone Survivor: My baby's dead, now prepare to die.
Institute: O_O
The female SS during this sounds like she's on the verge of a massive grief induced mental breakdown when her son doesn't recognize her.
Male SS is pure justified anger. A protective father who's internally panicking. He sounds pissed but he's under complete anxiety and confusion.
GOD THESE VOICE ACTORS ARE SO GOOD.
not really tbh
The female voice actor was way better than the male !
Both my guy and girl were white but I had a black baby.
👦🏼+👧🏼=👶🏾
+Jesse Goodwin their should be a unique dialogue when that happens :
Lone survivor : yeah about you’re dad/mother … it wasn’t the one that came whit me in the vault .
That is possible. Almost every family tree has mix in it, which means that most everyone has a recessive trait of a different color. Usually every 1 in 4 offspring have that recessive trait. I know a person who both her and her husband have blonde hair, yet one of their four children has red hair. Genetics.
What race was the mailman?
i love your pic, Dirk Nowitzki!!!
that awkward moment when your son is older than you XD
true XD
+Nathan Hendricks bored???
+Issack Marquez A mother has bore a child into this world. Or, if you are rebellious, she has bored a child into this world, because fuck the Grammar Police, am I being detained? >:D
Except he's not.
Why did you reply to your own comment
This scene always gets me kinda emotional.
Your family and the world you fought for just taken away and killed before your eyes.
You not only soon realize that you missed out everything in your son's life, but that he's now an emotionless douchebag who defends the institute for killing his own mother and your spouse, and taking him away from you.
I can only imagine how hard it would be to finally find your missing child and him not feeling like your child at all.
Just messed up.
My first emotional reaction was to kill this as....
That’s why I always Roleplay my character a broken wreck after beating the main story. It’s all fairly traumatizing.
Nah, if you have enough Charisma, Shaun will tell you that he was sad about Nora’s death and has spent most of his life broken about what happened to her.
So then I bust out my Combat Shotgun, and pull up 1inch away from his nose & ShBlam
The Institute is doing the best given the situation. The situation is messed up so there’s not really much more. You can really get mad at them for. Sean had 60 years to get over his mothers death so course he 10:38 is gonna sound like a douche, but his hearts in the right place
When Valentine tells you kellog moved into diamond city with a ten year old did he forget to mention that this was 50 or so years ago
The ten year old wasn't the same Shaun that was just the synth child you see earlier.
How do you know this ? That seems unlikely
valentine also said that he only just moved out about a month ago. so the only reasonable conclusion is that the child was a synth.
+subnormalgrub93 I'm pretty sure that mayor says something about him moving out quite recently.
+natu101yay When did he move in though? It must have been 50 or so years ago
Dude I was keeping all of toys i've seen in the entire game to shaun look like THIS?!
Yup
LMAOOO BRO
Here year 2024 and I did the same thing!!!
Heavy Rain?
...SHAUN!
+Jake Snodgrass SHAUNNN
JASON!
JAAASON!
+male_07.mdl You called?
+Kaneki Kun JASON WILL GET YOU
+Jake Snodgrass Someone has to make a parody of that :D.
They Grow up so fast,
snow-puppers lol
25 like
Maybe just a bit too fast
Kelllogg, part of a complete and delicious story.
+TheXLSpartan500 A healthy and balanced story
60% of your daily recommended value of story
The story contains no artificial colours or preservatives
+TheXLSpartan500 Oh I see what you did there
+Flying Spectacles Contains all of the artificial colours and preservatives*
I am your father!!!
NOOOOOO!
No that's bullshit
Jk
NOOOOOOOOO!
You are no father of mine.
"the player has been through a lot is an understatement!" he fought super mutants and other despicable creatures, swam in radioactive water not to mention a green sea of toxic waste, discovered every hick town east of brotherhood and cannibalized gross human remains, then at the end discovered his son is biologically older than him and the leader of a secret society full of cowards and scientists. um yeah.....really bad timing
literal hell
why we can't be voice acted by liam neeson is beyond me.
WHY WE CAN'T BE VOICED BY LIAM NEESON IS BEYOND ME
And then Shaun would actually be James from fallout 3, that'd be mind blowing :O
I think they went for characters who could portray emotion over their voice :P
+Dylan Greene They clearly didnt do that for Preston Garvey. Guy has as much emotion as a pool cue
I wouldve liked Sean Bean
in my game i killed him before i even got to talk to him, then i blew up the institute and my game went down a very different path. then i realized
Was it more satisfying?
SHAWWWWWN!!! SHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN SHAWN! hahahhahahha
+keenan therrien If only the dad's name was Ethan.
+keenan therrien Beats finding him with the Origami Killer, am I right?
nothri true
+keenan therrien JASON!!!!
no.
Shaun: But, what matters now is that you and I have a chance to..."begin again".
Damn, Shaun if you want to begin again you should visit Sierra Madre son!
FUCK NO! I fucking had it with that place and the fucking god damn gas and the whole collars beep beep beep bullshit! And I couldn't even get that many gold bars it was just like congratulations you just finished the most unfair dlc in history now FUCK YOU no cool rewards! FUCK SIERRA MADRE!
Just so you know that was just a joke
+Justin Archibald Don't worry I understand and to rub the salt upon wound I manage to take all 32 gold bars out the Madre! I buy all shiny guns from Gun Runners after that! (xD) Heck, If my Courier have rank 3 strong back perk like Sole Survivor it would make thing easier!
And no fucking backstory whatsoever about the main character. Believe me, the Divide dlc has better backstory about the character.
If you want all the gold just put it all on Elijah's body then cut his head off and carry it
I always have a hard time killing Baby Shaun because of the tapes Father leave behind
"If you are hearing this, then the time has come. I am gone. I can no longer look after young Shaun. I hoped that you might be willing. He has been reprogrammed to believe he is your son. I hope that was not too presumptuous on my part. Both he and you deserved a chance to... To be a family. Please, take care of him." damn that shit hits me like truck
Old man looks like he could be in an old spice commercial. Dude aged like fine wine.
ikr, when he said he is 60, I was like - now way, you look good for your age
Yes, shaun is your son, but is he really? He's basiclly the institutes child. They raised him and made him who he is, the Brotherhood is the only family you have left in the commonwealth.
I'm waaaay too late, but can you blame him? He didn't had a father/mother while growing up, but he's still your son. He's still that baby that your wife/husband held when both of you were running towards the vault. The one that you took care of. The one that you were afraid to lose when the bombs exploded. Shaun became the best he could in that cirscunstances. Even if he was a complete psychopath, i would still comprehend and accept him as my son. Look at all the things he had to go through when he was just a baby. His world got destroyed. One of his most important figures was killed right in front of him. Still so, he managed to overcome ALL of this and become the leader of the institute that captured him. I'm fucking proud of my son LMAO
@@iaelaguirre-mt Ay lmao 4 years later
@@DrunkNotIAm yeah lol
69th like,
n i c e
I honestly died in a way I can't explain when I found out about this.
They just outright took my baby, killed him and replaced him with this monster. Shaun was such a good little man in Kellogg's memory, so polite and kind! Then the spirit of that kid died for this grimey old man.
Honestly, I could not cope. I was so triggered I killed the entire institute sigle-handedly with my power armour and got banished the second I left. Not that there was _realistically_ anyone left in HQ to keep me out, but the game didn't recognize that so even though I murdered every synth, scientist and the very leader in their facility, NPCs still talked about the Institute like it existed.
Guess the kid NPCs left in there just took over the family business real maturely, huh?
So....if you have a romance with Danse isn't that technically your son's DNA??? O.O
omggsgsvwjwb nooo we’re never gonna live this down. I can imagine that upon learning that the person who did romance danse is going to have an awkward conversation once they get back
During my first playthrough I socked Shaun in the face and killed him, then did the rest to the whole Institute. Only later did I find out the old guy was shaun, not the little boy. Damn you my blood thirst!
PRESS X TO SHAUN
SHAUUUUUUUUUN! SHAUN! SHAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNN!
I accidentally pressed x
X
that moment when your son is wiser than you are
Arriving at The Institute was so...surreal. It felt like entering the afterlife in the strangest way.
does your character's appearance affect shauns appearance as an old man?
+The Crew A.S.S.I yes it does, its a mix between your mom and dad
+Sam Burns my son is going to be fucking ugly...
+Jaspaer ... I made the mother look ugly AF... Kinda regret that now, but I don't want to start over :D
+Jaspaer lmao
+The Crew A.S.S.I it seems so, but i haven't seen any version of Shaun with a dramatically differing facial structure, they all seem to look about the same, apart from their skintone and eye color.
Kellogg frosted flakes!
That is what I was thinking
+U “BUNG THE BOOCE 89” WOT M8? Theyyyyre Great!
U WOT M8? ...
Shaun's the villain
You're welcome :')
+Alex Hooi Yep that was clear, I remember one asshole on Steam started to spoil it in the comments on every early review from users already playing from 9th November xD It was hilarious and sad at same time, he spammed it to everyone so it was impossible to don't read it, more harder to forget it but now I finally discovered from myself... Btw, I tried to kill Shaun but nothing happened to story XD I was excepting a "Time Paradox" like MGS3, but after killed him nobody even noticed it so i saved and try to come back to Commonwealth but no mentions on Shaun's death, wtf? XD
No he is not I beat the game
Tes Fallout I did too, but he's the founder of Institute, so he's the villain, plus he's not even surprised for his mother dead, so I shot him first time I saw him but nobody around noticed and just keep going...what's fun is even during the last mission (I choosed to Nuke the Institute with the Brotherhood of Steel) and guess what? His dead body was still there, i was WTF? XD
Illusion Spark beat the Institute ending, it explains everything: he does feel bad but remember he has been alive for so long he already dealt with the pain, The Institute is not evil what so ever they just are trying to rebuild humanity under ground with synths
+Tes Fallout (The Vestige) Re-building a humanity with robots is quite wrong.
Hate on Bethesda’s writing all you want, this was pretty good plot twist.
Shaun sounds like a big headed robot. Brushing off his Mother's death like that. To think I was sad when he was kidnapped.
neeveekins
Baby Shaun is different to old Shaun. Baby Shaun has many potential futures that depend on his upbringing. Old Shaun had his path laid out for him
Sadly....I was expecting this scenario happening. Don't get me wrong Fallout 4 is a great game I am just disappointed in this being the big plot twist...
No in truth I was expecting this because it made sense logically. Shaun was removed from Cryo at an unspecified time and taken by certain group. We are frozen again for an unknown amount of time.
If you were frozen longer than him no doubt we would see him as an adult. And if he was with the Institute for his entire life no doubt he learned and followed their beleifs
These are theside effects of waiting almost a decade for a game negativity syndrome
+Scott Price Yeah, none of my friends believed me when I predicted the twist before we saw this scene happen.
Still an really enjoyable game like you said, but I wanted my expectation to be wrong :P
+Scott Price I thought he was going to be the eight year old kid we see with kellog. I didn't believe father either, since I found it strange Kellog would look the same that long. But then it's explained
My money was on Kellog being a Synth but he was the next best thing.
damn the voice acting of the sole survivor both male and female were just wow masterpiece I hope they keep the voiced protagonist on the next fallout
They probably won't considering not many people liked it.
@@quarlalexis9082 it kinda makes rp hard, I liked the voiced protag cuz I hadn't played fallout before but now that I've played the other games I get where they're coming from
Father: He hasn't told you what happened to your son.
Aedan: I know what you did. He said you took him.
Father: No Aedan, I'M your son.
Aedan: No! It's IMPOSSIBLEEEEE!!!!
Stormcloak Shreds omg
'Anything's possibleeeeeee' - Kevin garnett
this game would make one hell of a movie or tv show!
Here after five years 😮
It really happened😂
I would've denied everything
+_Rakeial I plotted to destroy the institute after this chat, I was gonna murder the heads of all of the institute departments and Shaun at the same time, but there's another twist that happens that made me change my mind.
Codsworth and Dogmeat are the only family i have now
Wait. Father! Ah HELL NO! This isn't fma! You aren't making those homunculi! Except greed, you can make greed.
Hahaha
Ike Bran No matter how hard I tried I couldn't trust Shaun because of constant PTSD of smug clouds of edge in a flask
I hate playthroughs where the user only chooses the "bottom choice" on the dialog wheel - which is always the "good" choice.
Have some variety, get angry and mean sometimes. Even sarcastic.
+Kevin Webb Getting aggressive doesn't solve anything.
I guess it's different with other people I rather hate it when people pick the angry and sarcastic choices makes them sound like a jackass really.
Buts that probably do to me being a polite and open minded person.
***** lmao
+Arcturus Blake that's a hilarious burn.
I think he just wants the player to be different because in a real life scenario you wouldn't be able to be that good. But if the player is trying to get a specific ending then I can see why someone would play like that. Both sides have good arguments and I think that playing both ways is necessary to explore the whole game.
I’ll admit, the first time I played through the game and experienced this, I was absolutely blown away. The writing, the plot twist, it was all spot on, and it was really thought provoking for my 13 year old self. But it goes from 100 to 0 as soon as you reach this point, and it has ZERO replayability value. Once you experience it once, the magic is gone, forever.
2:55 "it was not ten but sity years" you leveled up!
how old was kellogg then? 60 + his age when he took shaun, sure he was part snyth due to technology enhancements.
(edit: wish I never asked)
(edit: how do you delete threads aaaa)
(edit: please, this was a year ago. Im a changed man! I know why now, please stop with the messages and insults D: )
+Jawsome Studios s10.postimg.org/anpy5t955/enb2015_11_27_20_25_28.jpg
Thanks, my character isn't one for looking at old/restored terminals.
+DanaDuchy come on man stop uploading this kind of stuff I haven't even beatFallout4
+Leyse Beard then don't click play..... the title is pretty clear don't you think?
+Leyse Beard Both the thumbnail and the title only spoiled THAT you find him, nothing else. From that you could just as well assume you found his corpse or something. Watching this is really just your fault.
"I don't know you!"
"Why you ungrateful little" *starts choking him like homer simpson*
Killing Shaun and adopting the synth is some rick and Morty shit
that child has some good voice acting
2:57 "So yeah dude, I know you are in the middle of something... but I just wanted to remind you that you leveled up and can pick a new perk........................ ok bye." Damn pop-ups.
The first time that old guy walked through the doors I pulled out my rifle and had him in my sights. Woulda been awkward if I pulled the trigger
Fo3 : where's my father?
Fo4 : where's my son?
Fnv : who the fuck shoot my head? That asshole must pay
I wonder how it would be like if your character were to read a bedtime story to Shaun (who is older than him). lol
DAMMIT I HAD TO GO AND SPOIL IT FOR MYSELF BUT I HAD TO.
Great vids, keep it up
Hi
@@FIZZY.YT. hi
Fallout 3:finding your dad
Fallout 4:finding your son
Fallout New Vegas:finding who shot you
I really feel like the Sole Survivor was made to be female. I've done this section as the female protagonist. And her voice acting was so unique here. When I agreed to stay at the Institute, She gave a deep breath and a sigh... before agreeing. This one felt so... rushed..
Really? I find both voice actors to be pretty amazing :D like really well done and emotive. In comparison to the male shep in ME I mean
I guess it's my bias for now. I'll finish my male character run within the following weeks to see it myself. But I was a tad disappointed in the male version of finding Shaun.
+Travis Gibbons Yeah the female voice acting was better in my opinion.
+Travis Gibbons Yep , I have both playthrough . Male (BoS) & Female (Institute) and my female character was very emotional . I also felt like this story was how a mother lost his son and not a father type kind of like .
Try and hear the female end game dialogue. The part when she said she lost Shaun again literally shredded my heart.
Such a touching moment when your own son is telling you what old age brings.
I have defeated the institute and BETRAYED shaun, but not for the brotherhood, FOR MY WIFE, FOR ALL THE "COLATERAL DAMAGE" THEY CAUSED IN THE SURFACE. Was my decision ok?
Here mate calm down, just a game...😅
I agreen not for brotherhood. but now revenge for wifu
Don't worry I killed Kellogg and shouted "Never liked your fucking frosted mini wheats you son of a bitch." :P
I think this is a case for dr phill
I created an imaginary sequence where my character shoots Shaun and goes on a rampage around the institute only for him to die and come back to the real world(aka I went back to my last save) where he's having this conversation with Shaun.
The "Where's my son." option is my favorite.
Biggest mindfuck since fightclub
actually a lot of ppl saw it coming even I did.
***** u must be like 12. Kid everyone saw it comming. It was obvious after u went frozen again he got older. Sorry if your so simple minded and can't even tactically think ahead of situations.
+Sean Legghette all my friends saw it. so actually yes was obvious
+H0ll0w360 Shutup and stop insulting people for being surprised by a spoiler.
+Thomas Noorlander I remember making a joke to my friends that Shaun would be an old man since you fell back into cryo-stasis for a while. Turns out I was right.
4:17 The fate of my latest save file >:(
Fallout 3: finding your father
Fallout 4: also searching for your father
Imean Son
I actually have you to thank for this game. I came across your vids randomly and decided to give it a try. At first, I went through the presets hoping to get someone who looked like your Nate!
Your character looks like ethan fromheavy rain
+ryan ruland I thought the same thing
+ryan ruland SHAAAAAAUN! SHAAAAAUN! SHAAAAAAAAAAAAUN!!!!!
right
+ryan ruland Omg.... perfect idea: someone needs to take the "Shaun" sound files from Heavy Rain, mod them into Fallout 4, create a character that looks as similar as possible to Ethan, and press X to Shaun during this scene. xD I can imagine it now...
"I am now it's lead-"
"SHAUNNNNNNN!"
"I'm sure you have-"
"SHAUN!"
"I am-"
"SHAUNNN!"
Repent In Reprise PointlessTable There's actually a mod somewhat similar to that
This is such an emotional scene, I tear up every time. Seeing father and son, reunited after all these years, stand statically in front of each other, while one belts out awkward exposition...man, Bethesda really outdid themselves this time.
XD
Damn I want this game so bad
So why did you watch this ultimate spoiler video..
+Gabe Newell Temptation...
+Gabe Newell because to some the story doesnt matter, but rather the physical gameplay
+Gabe Newell or buy it on steam
i really want to sleep in a bed made of shauns Voice
Hot
Reminds me of Interstellar!
I feel like shaun is not that old. In fact I think he is somewhere else
When you first wake up it has been 140 years then when you get frozen again its been 60 years lol he is that old
Only bethesda will create scenes where people talk this long standing up while there are chairs near
Accepting the fact that one day your kid will be an adult is one thing, but this... this is completely something else.
How can he possibly cope with this after everything he'd already been through?
After i encounterd shaun and showing no emotion about his mother nor his father (me) i decided that he changed so far that i dont know him anymore
Star Wars: IM YOUR FATHER, Fallout 4: I AM YOUR SON
I am so glad that I gave the institute a chance. The whole game up to that point paints them as the bad guys, but it only takes a couple missions to see that they are CLEARLY the good guys.
It's a very murky water to swim in to call them the "good guys". They kidnapped people from the commonwealth and replaced them with synths so they could experiment on them with f.e.v. Not the good guys in my book.
+Andrew Clark I thought the same thing. But , even the brotherhood has it's downs seeing what they wanted you to do to paladin danse
+Arcturus Blake Railroaad and Miniutemen are the only good guys really.
Matt Allen
The Railroad are bad guys who don't realize they're bad guys. They THINK they're doing what's right, but they are potentially destroying the entire human race.
Lord Gaben I know we all got extremely emotionally attached to Paladin Danse, but think about it this way. If "judgement day" was looming in the near future and the only thing that could save humanity from a future synth control/extermination scenario, would they not want to destroy any and all machines? Bearing in mind that these are military tacticians, I think they are completely selfless in truly trying to save humanity, even if it means cleansing the brotherhood from the inside out.
The next fallout: looking for your cat
Lol
That moment when ur son is older than you
+Burnarama and your son too .-.
+Burnarama that's the newest way to keep ur skin fresh and new when gettin old,women would love this
+Burnarama So is Shaun...
one of my all time favourite scenes in games!
Wouldn’t Shaun also have been exposed, having left Vault 111 with Kellogg and the Institute Scientist, before eventually going to the Institute? There had to be a time where he was exposed, as during Kellogg’s memories it shows him in a house, but not in the Institute.
The Institute can teleport, and everyone sans Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes in the opening cutscene is wearing a Radiation Suit. I have a feeling Kellogg is pretty much their Wasteland contact until he gets murked and replaced by you. Unless you go Minutemen/BoS on their asses.
i love villains who aren't all bad. like it's actually plausible to agree with them, their goals, and their point of view. to really empathize with them
really makes any story (video game or not) much more meaningful and complex, in a good way
You could've easily find him just shouting in the middle of the wasteland...
SHAAAAAUUUUN! SHAUN! SHAAAAAUUUUUUN!
JAAASOOOOON!
Who would care about Shawn when Preston Garvey needs help saving another settlement
so sad...
dude open up your pip boy you leveled up
dude I just feel like so emotional
father kinda looks like James (Your actual father) from Fallout 3.
Yeah kinda
This scene is so much more powerful if you're actually a parent in real life. This cuts you a lot more deeply....
does this mean the relationship with danse is grandparent grandchild incest?
Danse is a synth, which means he is son of Father(every synth says it.)
+Allen Hannigan What? You can have a relationship with Danse? Or are you just speculating?
+Paul Ramoz oh god...
no shame. Still gonna tap Danse
I haven't done the danse romance yet. Waiting for my wife to make a female her in the game so I can play as her.
She wants to be with the brohood and since I did as well we came to a compromise, and I don't get to be the brotherhood.
Wait up.
Shawn is a Synth!
Wait, so if you romance synth Curie, but synths have your son's DNA... are you somehow able to romance technically family?
This wasn't really surprising
I knew Shaun was either going to be a super villain or a super hero
Its like he has no emotion
like a Synth
You've leveled up! Pick a new perk in the Pip-Boy.
Just reached now and I was literally WTF? I was already when I saw Shaun grown during Kellogg quests, and now he's 60 years old? So, if I get it right, the game starts at 2077 right the day of Great War, then you run into Vault 111 with Nora and Shaun as baby, then both enter the cryopods, then Kellogg kills Nora (or Nate) and kidnap Shaun, then it looks like you wake up after 200 years in the 2277, but how it is possible that Shaun is 60 years old?
They're frozen for 150 years, which is when Shaun is taken, then frozen for another 60 years, to 2287
Its basic maths. The cryo-stasis pauses their ageing process. Your character is released 200 years after going under, maintaining his age. If Shaun/Father is 60 years old, then he was taken from the vault 140 years after going under. Remember, the Kellogg memory sequences are just that; memories, and clearly Shaun isn't a 10 year old, meaning Kellogg lied.
No you leave the vault after 200 years. But remember you were disturbed by Kellogg and he took Shaun then you went back to sleep. So he took Shaun 60 years ago before you left the vault.
+Illusion Spark The Institute had methods of extending Kellogg's lifespan, if I recall one of the dialogues with Father correctly.
Ok finally I started to get it (sorry for spoilers but this video itself is already a big one), So half of my theory were right...what a messy story