[Discrete Mathematics] Relations Examples

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  • In this video we do some proofs with reflexivity and introduce the notion of irreflexivity.
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  • @JamisonOwenShow
    @JamisonOwenShow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do you have any videos that go more in depth on equivalence relations and transitive closure?

  • @ferdiedsouza
    @ferdiedsouza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @3:50 . Symmetry + transitivity works only when its defined for all elements in the set , else the reflexive relation might fail .

  • @eimaldorani
    @eimaldorani 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @2:55 x!=y and y!=z for distinct x,y and z is symmetric and transitive but not reflective.

  • @vishnureddy3977
    @vishnureddy3977 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't the empty relation transitive, symmetric, and irreflexive?

  • @ikemblem2335
    @ikemblem2335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know what it means to "define the relation"? Been searching everywhere and can't seem to find it.

  • @Prenner2
    @Prenner2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the last part ("Assume: ..."), you said that it implies xRx "by transitivity", but isn't it by symmetry?
    Because also the example above could only be irreflexive because it was not symmetric, or do I get something wrong?
    And thank you so much for your videos! They help a lot!

    • @Trevtutor
      @Trevtutor  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      if xRy and yRx, then xRx follows from transitivity, not symmetry.

    • @Prenner2
      @Prenner2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheTrevTutor I get it now, thanks so much!

    • @rudyeilabouni
      @rudyeilabouni 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's like xRy and yRz then xRz, that's transitivity... In this example, instead of z, you have x because of symmetry, but it's the same principle.

    • @Prenner2
      @Prenner2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, you're right. Thank you too!

  • @yamatanoorochi3149
    @yamatanoorochi3149 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the first question, 0:00
    It's implicit that R1 and R2 are from within the same set?

  • @Pages_Perfected
    @Pages_Perfected 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    where is comparison relation ?

  • @D17D
    @D17D 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:32 I don't understand the symmetricity part for question i).
    Using the definition of symmetricity:
    forall x,y in A ( ((x,y) in R) then ((y,x)) in R) )
    If we take x = 2 and y = 3 and try: (2 < 3) -> (3 < 2), antecedent is true, and consequence is false, so implication is false so thus it is not symmetric. However, if we take x = 3 and y = 2 and try: (3 < 2) -> (2 < 3), antecedent is false, and consequence is true, so implication is true so now it is symmetric? For relations including strict inequalities, is there a rule that x < y < z? I'm not quite sure where I'm messing up.

  • @kaspinator5265
    @kaspinator5265 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't it possible to have (x,x) in R1, and (y,y) in R2? This way both R1 and R2 are reflexive, but the intersection would not be, making the statement false?

    • @Trevtutor
      @Trevtutor  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But then there's nothing in the intersection, so it's trivially reflexive.

  • @user-wt9br3uz7m
    @user-wt9br3uz7m 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let A = {#, 7, x} and let R be the relation on A given by R = {(x, x), (7, 7), (#, #)}. Prove or disprove reflexivity, symmetry, and transitivity of R.

  • @BolaAAyoub
    @BolaAAyoub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    examinashiny :D

  • @MuhammadIsmail-un3qd
    @MuhammadIsmail-un3qd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    last question is not cleared .....