Great job on repurposing the bronze ring. I’m sure you’ll figure out the positioning of the boiler. Congratulations on passing the exam 👍 I’ll still be calling you Julia 😂 Cheers Nobby
Hi Julia Great video. Great use of the gunmetal flange for the ring 👍 I have the same problem with the weight shaft. The original ( Baldwin ‘Mogul’ 1856) had a ‘joggle’ in the shaft. If you cut / reinforce the shaft, make sure you can take the bearings off each side. A ‘bent’ shaft won’t slide thru’ from one side. I reckon 1/8” insulation will do… just butt it up against the strap, and wrap fully. So the ‘clearance’ only needs to be the thickness of the sheet metal cladding. Should be ok… Regards Robert 🇦🇺
Thanks I was hoping for something I could do with it in place as it's a pain to take the brackets off. But I think you are right. Will be quicker in the long run. 😀
Hi Julia really enjoyed your video today You made a really good job of machining the smoke box ring 👍🏻👍🏻 I must say I find it very therapeutic watching someone machining metal down on a lathe It will look good when it’s altogether I am sure 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🚂🚂🚂🚂
Nice job on the smokebox ring Julia👍👍👍👍🚂🚂🚂🚂 Can't offer any solution to the boiler fit other than, Looks like the Weigh "t" shaft needs modifying Someone likes "Quality Street"😄😄😄😄👍👍😉😉🚂🚂🚂🚂 regards kev
Thanks Julia, another great video and super work and repurposing of scrap materials. Another job behind you now, moving forward very well. I suspect a Model Works boiler did not have the "butt strap", which might well be a difference,please remember there may also be lagging and the boilr "cleading" to allow for also Cheers. Andy G.
@julias-shed Hi Julia, Yes you are right you could probably jut "BUT UP" the lagging to the edge of the strap making things constant all the way round, "good idea" Best Wishes Andy G.
@@julias-shed would think so Julia. When I removed the cleading on my 7.35" gauge Holmside, it was lagged with no more than1/8" Cork matting. I suspect in model terms it is mostly about keeping the cleading "cool" to the touch more than keeping the boiler super efficient. Cheers again Andy G
Hi again Julia,my friend at our local club also has one of these locos, he said his boiler also has an external "butt strap" and the "weigh shaft" is streightand wondered if the firebox end was more the reason for the fouling of the two components, his and another I heard of did not have the rocking "grate" but had sections to be lifted out through the "firehole". Cheers Andy G
With that weyshaft, if i were you id get a block of steal and drill a hole for the curent shaft, then stick a small dowel (2 or 3mm in there befor silver soldering it together, and then to finish mill out a recess in the block and throug the existing way shaft, that way it will retain its strength and stay true
Great job with the smokebox ring. What do the drawings say about the boiler? Mock it up and work from the assembled centreline of the boiler/smokebox down to the frame. Once you have that established it will give you more information about clearance between the shaft and the boiler.
Strangely the Spink Drawings I have don't include a GA but you've reminded me I have a rolled up side view so will try and get some measurements from that. Thanks for the suggestion 😃
Thanks John, glad you are enjoying the videos. That recycling saved me quite a lot of money too 😀 I passed my Foundation licence exam so please call me M7JLI from now on ☺️
Happy Sunday morning Julia, have you checked the centre height of the boiler, it may be its set too low. I'm not looking forward to my 2 1/2" Dyaks boiler lol
I’m enjoying your videos. Please do not wear gloves when using the lathe. I suggest turning down the weigh shaft little as possible over the short distance to give the clearance required.
Hi Steve, I was being showered with very hot chips hence the gloves. I am aware of the risks so took extra care whilst turning the ring. But thanks for the concern 😀. Interesting idea with the weigh shaft I'll think about that one thanks ☺️
@@julias-shed I would use a chip deflector on top of the cutting tool, made out of some sheet metal shim so you not spraying chips everywhere. Have you checked the boiler diametics against the drawings seeing you didn't make it, double check everything. Maybe the boiler backend is too low? I would have set it up in lathe using a scriber/surface gauge and not a dial indicator. Good work.
Great use of material. I think I would lift the smoke box by 2-3mm with a larger spacer plate. The fire box grate looks to low if this was also lifted to allow better fit up and would avoid interference with bolt heads.
Great job on repurposing the bronze ring. I’m sure you’ll figure out the positioning of the boiler. Congratulations on passing the exam 👍 I’ll still be calling you Julia 😂 Cheers Nobby
Thanks Nobby I just need to have a good think about it. 😬 That's fine I answer to both 🤣All the best Julia
Hi Julia
Great video. Great use of the gunmetal flange for the ring 👍
I have the same problem with the weight shaft.
The original ( Baldwin ‘Mogul’ 1856) had a ‘joggle’ in the shaft.
If you cut / reinforce the shaft, make sure you can take the bearings off each side. A ‘bent’ shaft won’t slide thru’ from one side.
I reckon 1/8” insulation will do… just butt it up against the strap, and wrap fully. So the ‘clearance’ only needs to be the thickness of the sheet metal cladding.
Should be ok…
Regards
Robert
🇦🇺
Thanks I was hoping for something I could do with it in place as it's a pain to take the brackets off. But I think you are right. Will be quicker in the long run. 😀
Hi Julia really enjoyed your video today
You made a really good job of machining the smoke box ring 👍🏻👍🏻
I must say I find it very
therapeutic watching someone machining metal down on a lathe
It will look good when it’s altogether I am sure 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🚂🚂🚂🚂
Thanks Glen there was a huge amount of material removed. I actually had to clean the lathe afterwards 🤣
@@julias-shed hi Julia yes I imagined there was but a lovely job you made of it 👍🏻👍🏻
very nice job
Thank you ☺️ glad you liked it.
Nice job on the smokebox ring Julia👍👍👍👍🚂🚂🚂🚂
Can't offer any solution to the boiler fit other than,
Looks like the Weigh "t" shaft needs modifying
Someone likes "Quality Street"😄😄😄😄👍👍😉😉🚂🚂🚂🚂
regards
kev
I know Kev 😳 trying to think and speak at the same time never works that well. 🤣 What can I say? I'm a Quality Gal ☺️
Wow, nicely done, Julia!
@ Thanks Bill it came out really well 😀
Thanks Julia, another great video and super work and repurposing of scrap materials. Another job behind you now, moving forward very well.
I suspect a Model Works boiler did not have the "butt strap", which might well be a difference,please remember there may also be lagging and the boilr "cleading" to allow for also
Cheers.
Andy G.
Hi Andy, thanks for your nice message ☺️ good point about the cleading. I could probably get away with not lagging the strap? 😀
@julias-shed Hi Julia,
Yes you are right you could probably jut "BUT UP" the lagging to the edge of the strap making things constant all the way round, "good idea"
Best Wishes
Andy G.
@masterpiecesinminiature8299 that's what I was thinking 1/8" is pretty good thickness for lagging isn't it? Thanks again. Julia ☺️
@@julias-shed would think so Julia.
When I removed the cleading on my 7.35" gauge Holmside, it was lagged with no more than1/8" Cork matting.
I suspect in model terms it is mostly about keeping the cleading "cool" to the touch more than keeping the boiler super efficient.
Cheers again
Andy G
Hi again Julia,my friend at our local club also has one of these locos, he said his boiler also has an external "butt strap" and the "weigh shaft" is streightand wondered if the firebox end was more the reason for the fouling of the two components, his and another I heard of did not have the rocking "grate" but had sections to be lifted out through the "firehole".
Cheers Andy G
With that weyshaft, if i were you id get a block of steal and drill a hole for the curent shaft, then stick a small dowel (2 or 3mm in there befor silver soldering it together, and then to finish mill out a recess in the block and throug the existing way shaft, that way it will retain its strength and stay true
That's a really good suggestion Thomas many thanks for that 😀 you've got me thinking in a different direction completely now.
Great job with the smokebox ring.
What do the drawings say about the boiler? Mock it up and work from the assembled centreline of the boiler/smokebox down to the frame. Once you have that established it will give you more information about clearance between the shaft and the boiler.
Strangely the Spink Drawings I have don't include a GA but you've reminded me I have a rolled up side view so will try and get some measurements from that. Thanks for the suggestion 😃
Hi Julia, nice work on the smokebox ring I realy enjoy the "make doo and mend" approach top marks ..... How did the RAE go ? John
Thanks John, glad you are enjoying the videos. That recycling saved me quite a lot of money too 😀 I passed my Foundation licence exam so please call me M7JLI from now on ☺️
Happy Sunday morning Julia, have you checked the centre height of the boiler, it may be its set too low.
I'm not looking forward to my 2 1/2" Dyaks boiler lol
Hiya good point I haven't. 😳 Not sure if it is marked on the Spink drawings. I will check. Great suggestion thanks 😀 good luck with the Dyak.
@julias-shed will be the middle of the smoke box door
@ lol I would hope so but how high above the chassis? 🤔
Take the measurment from your working dwg@@julias-shed
I’m enjoying your videos. Please do not wear gloves when using the lathe. I suggest turning down the weigh shaft little as possible over the short distance to give the clearance required.
Hi Steve, I was being showered with very hot chips hence the gloves. I am aware of the risks so took extra care whilst turning the ring. But thanks for the concern 😀. Interesting idea with the weigh shaft I'll think about that one thanks ☺️
@@julias-shed I would use a chip deflector on top of the cutting tool, made out of some sheet metal shim so you not spraying chips everywhere.
Have you checked the boiler diametics against the drawings seeing you didn't make it, double check everything. Maybe the boiler backend is too low?
I would have set it up in lathe using a scriber/surface gauge and not a dial indicator. Good work.
@robmaultby9998 funnily enough I used a surface gauge when it was turned around to get the rough alignment. Don't think I filmed that though. 😀
Great use of material. I think I would lift the smoke box by 2-3mm with a larger spacer plate. The fire box grate looks to low if this was also lifted to allow better fit up and would avoid interference with bolt heads.
Hiya thanks for your suggestion. I think I will shim up the boiler and see how it sits. 😀 It's quicker than mucking about with the weigh shaft!