Yep on the bike training is the best way. I have tried in the past to do tons of cardio and endurance workouts over the winter and feel like I am in fantastic shape only to go for the first ride in the Spring and use muscles that never got touched over my extensive winter training efforts. I end up limping around after the first several rides. So now I just sit on my arse over the winter, go for the first ride and limp around after the first several rides!
best advice i've heard yet on "training" to ride. endurance is built by, well, enduring. riding skill is improved by, well, riding. riding for fun is just the icing on the cake. i begged my mom to let me quit piano lessons when i was a kid because it was boring as all getout to me. yet, i taught myself how to play the guitar, because it was, well, fun. (however, now i'm 40, and i wish i'd have stuck with learning the piano as well.) Sounds fun now... maybe it's time to give that a go again... NAW, I WANNA GO RIDE!!!
enjoying it makes all the difference... i learned guitar when 18 because it was fun. then taught myself the basics of piano in my 30s because it was fun. so glad i wasn't forced to learn either. now it's time to learn how to ride a dirt bike properly. sigh. 😉
@@crosstrainingenduro When you get it figured out , do a video.... : ) , cause I'd also like to know. Another great video. Chris's approach is great, I've seen some 'work out routines' of the pros, I've thought, yeah, but kind of blsht in a way, cause you can run 20 miles a day, do 1500 sit ups, and swim the English Channel for lunch, but never ride like Chris , unless you dig it, do it for hours on end, and for years, having some of his natural talent as well.
Great to get a bit of insight into Tim's race prep and training. He's a hell of a nice guy, and very laid back - it doesn't surprise me one bit he tries to keep things "normal" when he's under the pump.
Nothing like Seat Time as I call it.... the more hours in the saddle the more natural a rider you become. You get fitter as you go and less energy wasted. Never a truer word spoken by Tim. Really enjoy watching Tim ride.... precise and smooth. When you in UK Tim?? 😃 I heard before also.... the best thing to buy that will improve your performance..... is Petrol / Gas. 😃👍 I'm buying some of it on Sunday 🙂👍
Great video..my first log jump attempt caught my back wheel an donkey kicked me forward into a tree..lol...bike went to ground an I was hugging a tree like I was trying to climb up it..geesh
I'm the same. Working out, walking or running is boring. I can't make myself do any of that. I had lost about 20 pounds last year. Gained almost all of that back this winter. I'm 65 years old so being overweight is dangerous at my age. Trying to get myself motivated to ride a least two or three times a week. My bike is in a storage garage. So it's a chore to drive there, load up, drive about 35 minutes to where I can ride. Drive back, unload and be at work at 11:30am during the week days. Need to try it and see how it goes. Riding is definitely the best exercise I can think of.
I've found it's a bit of most things but lots of riding with good technique is king. Re the 'weights cause arm pump' There is value in the gym but there's a trick to it. For me, the gym contributed to arm pump and general exhaustion on the because I was trying to 'beat the bike' by being stronger, not by riding with better technique. Big and strong always loses to the continual demands of the bike if the technique isn't good. And if you're in the gym to get a 'pump' - ie 'beach body' - then your priority is about looks not performance on a bike and you're already pumped. What you eat has a huge effect on how your body responds to weights too. Being stronger does help endurance as you can use less effort for a given application of strength - the trick is to use technique to avoid significant exertion as much as possible and save it for, well, saving it. Lots of crashes can be saved with a bit more strength (lots more can be avoided with better technique). I've been using a RacerX paid program that boils down to HIIT for cardio on the rower most of the week with 1-2 weights sessions per week for strength; plenty of flexibility/mobility too. It's taken a few years of concious effort but I'm finally starting to be strong/flexible enough to ride faster and safer with the correct techniques/body position - challenging if you're tall, and older: I do drop one or two sessions a week to add in rest when needed. If I start to feel I'm leaning on strength to develop speed on the bike (which results in early exhaustion), I drop the weights altogether and focus on technique on the bike: riding is king.
Interestingly enough, I pretty much only experience arm-pump on a racetrack and usually only the small twisty ones, off the road, I often feel strain in clavicles and calves, especially since I've started riding on the balls of my feet the whole day, not just in tougher terrain, but it goes away after a day or two.The breathing is really good advice, it shocked me how much it helps to breathe deeply and calmly, it kind of settles your whole body down.
that's interesting freeman, so you don't move your feet on ride on the arches of your feet when the riding is easy? i noticed with the pro riders i film they seem to be always moving between the two (or even three) positions. th-cam.com/video/i7D2XDT57p8/w-d-xo.html
@@crosstrainingenduro Since I'm a road/track rider first, riding on anything but the balls of my feet feels very unnatural. I've spent years teaching people to ride on the balls of their feet unless there is a deliberate action they need to take. Most riders would change their gearing for a specific track just so they don't need to shift outside of straights. On the track and road, it is a must, because if you get into corner with your foot resting on an arch, it's gonna get caught under the bike, it's not a great feeling, especially if you need to tighten the corner. The other big advantage is the feel, again, less important in the off-road, since the feedback on the tarmac is way more subtle, but when you are on your arches, you get way less information back from the bike. As for the off-road use, the different foot positions are nicely visible even in this video, I've watched your foot position instructions a few years back. On the heavy KLR, I occasionally use the arches, but on the 105kg AJP, I prefer to ride on the balls of my feet, since it is much nimbler, which also means less stable and you can never know exactly what will deflect the front and in that situation, I'd rather be in the more controlled position, where I get the most feedback, can grip the bike easily and have the biggest range of movement, plus I don't have to worry about the random branch flying off the front wheel deflecting my whole foot.
@@APioneerInTheSeaOfStars i would NOT advise visiting his channel. Its loaded with malware. After going there and leaving a comment im now plagued by f-y-i bots with japanese script.
@@theravedaddy Not sure what an f-y-i bot is. Anyhow he is really skilled using the 250L. How can you get malware from youtube? So some form of bot is tracking his channel's comments and they message you? That is sad. I never commented on his videos.
@@APioneerInTheSeaOfStars i dont know exactly how it works but these bots auto sub to anyone who enters a conversation that they started, like the 'Tom' comments a while back. I replied to a 300l comment, next i picked up 2 new subs and everything i upload is attacked with f y i links in japanese. Ive heard its porn but im not going there to find out.
Arm pump went away completely (mountain bike and moto)when I turned my levers almost horizontally. To be able to ride like that comfortably I had to work on ankle- and wrist mobility first as well as being able to hip-hinge without loosing good posture in the lower back. Key advantage of horizontal levers for me is: I can put a lot of weight on the handlebar ( braking, steep downhill) without having to close my hands with force. I can leave them totally relaxed. Try it to understand what I mean.
Im just doing a major rebuild on a ktm400exc which should see me lose 10kg when i switch from my crf250l to the ktm. ....most of it will be expelled through my bottom 1st time i send it...
I saw the comment in the video about drugs being a way to combat arm pump.. this has piqued my interest. I like drugs, but how do you aussies ride after using them? I can't do anything but sit down and have a good time after taking some :D
i have tried taking the DR650 down some of our gnarlier tracks after it rained lol th-cam.com/video/RA0R37FnLeM/w-d-xo.html and our motorcross guys were getting some pretty big air on the bush pig... th-cam.com/video/kC1CJpY4kms/w-d-xo.html
@@gaylene-playz4195 nice for the riding, not so much for the body mass loss. Im 6' 157lbs...not a good weight. I have a damaged disc im my back and that is causing atrophy in my posterior.
I want to see the bloopers. **whispers** what do you mean theres no bloopers for this video? **whispers** hes just that good after so much riding? Damn it.
People don’t understand there is no substitute for riding the bike for cardio. I go to the gym all the time but it’s not the same as riding the bike lol.
that would be fun, CK. he does have a vid on his channel where he is riding some big road bike backwards and balancing it at a standstill but that's about it.
chronic exertional compartment syndrome is still poorly understood but building muscle mass is still suspected of being a contributing factor: "Chronic exertional compartment syndrome of the forearms secondary to weight training" S. Jawed, A. S. M. Jawad, N. Padhiar, J. D. Perry Rheumatology, Volume 40, Issue 3, March 2001, Pages 344-345, doi.org/10.1093/rheumatology/40.3.344
Talk about making it look easy. There would be serious injuries on me within 6 seconds of that video starting.
Yep on the bike training is the best way. I have tried in the past to do tons of cardio and endurance workouts over the winter and feel like I am in fantastic shape only to go for the first ride in the Spring and use muscles that never got touched over my extensive winter training efforts. I end up limping around after the first several rides. So now I just sit on my arse over the winter, go for the first ride and limp around after the first several rides!
ha ha, perfect!
Start MTB’ing
best advice i've heard yet on "training" to ride. endurance is built by, well, enduring. riding skill is improved by, well, riding. riding for fun is just the icing on the cake. i begged my mom to let me quit piano lessons when i was a kid because it was boring as all getout to me. yet, i taught myself how to play the guitar, because it was, well, fun. (however, now i'm 40, and i wish i'd have stuck with learning the piano as well.) Sounds fun now... maybe it's time to give that a go again... NAW, I WANNA GO RIDE!!!
enjoying it makes all the difference... i learned guitar when 18 because it was fun. then taught myself the basics of piano in my 30s because it was fun. so glad i wasn't forced to learn either. now it's time to learn how to ride a dirt bike properly. sigh. 😉
@@crosstrainingenduro When you get it figured out ,
do a video.... : ) , cause I'd also like to know.
Another great video. Chris's approach is great, I've seen
some 'work out routines' of the pros, I've thought, yeah, but
kind of blsht in a way, cause you can run 20 miles a day,
do 1500 sit ups, and swim the English Channel for lunch,
but never ride like Chris , unless you dig it, do it
for hours on end, and for years, having some of his natural talent
as well.
Great to get a bit of insight into Tim's race prep and training. He's a hell of a nice guy, and very laid back - it doesn't surprise me one bit he tries to keep things "normal" when he's under the pump.
Nothing like Seat Time as I call it.... the more hours in the saddle the more natural a rider you become. You get fitter as you go and less energy wasted. Never a truer word spoken by Tim. Really enjoy watching Tim ride.... precise and smooth. When you in UK Tim?? 😃
I heard before also.... the best thing to buy that will improve your performance..... is Petrol / Gas. 😃👍 I'm buying some of it on Sunday 🙂👍
Seat time? It's TITS mate, Time in the Saddle :D
Great video..my first log jump attempt caught my back wheel an donkey kicked me forward into a tree..lol...bike went to ground an I was hugging a tree like I was trying to climb up it..geesh
I'm the same. Working out, walking or running is boring. I can't make myself do any of that. I had lost about 20 pounds last year. Gained almost all of that back this winter. I'm 65 years old so being overweight is dangerous at my age. Trying to get myself motivated to ride a least two or three times a week. My bike is in a storage garage. So it's a chore to drive there, load up, drive about 35 minutes to where I can ride. Drive back, unload and be at work at 11:30am during the week days. Need to try it and see how it goes. Riding is definitely the best exercise I can think of.
This one is a goodie! Glad to hear the doctor prescribing more riding. That's easy!
Beats going to the gym!
I've found it's a bit of most things but lots of riding with good technique is king.
Re the 'weights cause arm pump'
There is value in the gym but there's a trick to it.
For me, the gym contributed to arm pump and general exhaustion on the because I was trying to 'beat the bike' by being stronger, not by riding with better technique. Big and strong always loses to the continual demands of the bike if the technique isn't good. And if you're in the gym to get a 'pump' - ie 'beach body' - then your priority is about looks not performance on a bike and you're already pumped. What you eat has a huge effect on how your body responds to weights too.
Being stronger does help endurance as you can use less effort for a given application of strength - the trick is to use technique to avoid significant exertion as much as possible and save it for, well, saving it. Lots of crashes can be saved with a bit more strength (lots more can be avoided with better technique).
I've been using a RacerX paid program that boils down to HIIT for cardio on the rower most of the week with 1-2 weights sessions per week for strength; plenty of flexibility/mobility too. It's taken a few years of concious effort but I'm finally starting to be strong/flexible enough to ride faster and safer with the correct techniques/body position - challenging if you're tall, and older: I do drop one or two sessions a week to add in rest when needed.
If I start to feel I'm leaning on strength to develop speed on the bike (which results in early exhaustion), I drop the weights altogether and focus on technique on the bike: riding is king.
Interestingly enough, I pretty much only experience arm-pump on a racetrack and usually only the small twisty ones, off the road, I often feel strain in clavicles and calves, especially since I've started riding on the balls of my feet the whole day, not just in tougher terrain, but it goes away after a day or two.The breathing is really good advice, it shocked me how much it helps to breathe deeply and calmly, it kind of settles your whole body down.
that's interesting freeman, so you don't move your feet on ride on the arches of your feet when the riding is easy? i noticed with the pro riders i film they seem to be always moving between the two (or even three) positions. th-cam.com/video/i7D2XDT57p8/w-d-xo.html
@@crosstrainingenduro Since I'm a road/track rider first, riding on anything but the balls of my feet feels very unnatural. I've spent years teaching people to ride on the balls of their feet unless there is a deliberate action they need to take. Most riders would change their gearing for a specific track just so they don't need to shift outside of straights.
On the track and road, it is a must, because if you get into corner with your foot resting on an arch, it's gonna get caught under the bike, it's not a great feeling, especially if you need to tighten the corner. The other big advantage is the feel, again, less important in the off-road, since the feedback on the tarmac is way more subtle, but when you are on your arches, you get way less information back from the bike.
As for the off-road use, the different foot positions are nicely visible even in this video, I've watched your foot position instructions a few years back. On the heavy KLR, I occasionally use the arches, but on the 105kg AJP, I prefer to ride on the balls of my feet, since it is much nimbler, which also means less stable and you can never know exactly what will deflect the front and in that situation, I'd rather be in the more controlled position, where I get the most feedback, can grip the bike easily and have the biggest range of movement, plus I don't have to worry about the random branch flying off the front wheel deflecting my whole foot.
Taking these tips to heart for my next video
I find that just falling off and picking up my bike 10 times a ride helps with my fitness level . Does nothing for self image however.
I find picking my crf250l up twice leaves me with back pain for a month. I really will just light the fuel running out of it 1 day and walk away...
@@theravedaddy Look at "Gatti crf250L" trial riding on youtube and you'll be surprised what can be done on that bulky beast!
@@APioneerInTheSeaOfStars i would NOT advise visiting his channel. Its loaded with malware. After going there and leaving a comment im now plagued by f-y-i bots with japanese script.
@@theravedaddy Not sure what an f-y-i bot is. Anyhow he is really skilled using the 250L. How can you get malware from youtube? So some form of bot is tracking his channel's comments and they message you? That is sad. I never commented on his videos.
@@APioneerInTheSeaOfStars i dont know exactly how it works but these bots auto sub to anyone who enters a conversation that they started, like the 'Tom' comments a while back. I replied to a 300l comment, next i picked up 2 new subs and everything i upload is attacked with f y i links in japanese. Ive heard its porn but im not going there to find out.
Tim Coleman doesn't do what Tim Coleman does FOR Tim Coleman.
Tim Coleman does what Tim Coleman does because HE IS Tim Coleman
Arm pump went away completely (mountain bike and moto)when I turned my levers almost horizontally. To be able to ride like that comfortably I had to work on ankle- and wrist mobility first as well as being able to hip-hinge without loosing good posture in the lower back. Key advantage of horizontal levers for me is: I can put a lot of weight on the handlebar ( braking, steep downhill) without having to close my hands with force. I can leave them totally relaxed. Try it to understand what I mean.
good point tobias, putting your levers in that position was in our bike setup vid.
Can you please ask Tim to make a video on static zap on hillclimbs it's one of the most difficult techniques I struggle with😬
tim lives two states away dylan, and i won't be seeing him for ages. maybe email him? there's always a slight chance he might do a vid about it.
Im just doing a major rebuild on a ktm400exc which should see me lose 10kg when i switch from my crf250l to the ktm.
....most of it will be expelled through my bottom 1st time i send it...
🤣
Wow awesome rider, mad skills.👍🇦🇺🍺
Jesus....talk about becoming One with your machine :)
I saw the comment in the video about drugs being a way to combat arm pump.. this has piqued my interest. I like drugs, but how do you aussies ride after using them? I can't do anything but sit down and have a good time after taking some :D
I'd answer but currently too chilled, dude 😗
Cycling, push ups and deadlifts.
nice buddy!
For arm pump, I raise my arms over my head for few minutes.
Enduro has the cool off-road riders and fans. Helping each other, rather than t-boning each other..
yep i gotta admit the friendly rivalry of pro enduro riders appeals more to me than the dog-eat-dog approach of A grade motocross.
1:29 ......hates running, ha ha, me too....
What about do it on dr650 ? )) 2:19
i have tried taking the DR650 down some of our gnarlier tracks after it rained lol th-cam.com/video/RA0R37FnLeM/w-d-xo.html
and our motorcross guys were getting some pretty big air on the bush pig... th-cam.com/video/kC1CJpY4kms/w-d-xo.html
I have lost 10 pounds over this pandemic. My riding has never been better.
Nice man
@@gaylene-playz4195 nice for the riding, not so much for the body mass loss. Im 6' 157lbs...not a good weight. I have a damaged disc im my back and that is causing atrophy in my posterior.
well done. i was porking up a bit just before the recent accident so revised the diet and dropped about 3kg.
I want to see the bloopers. **whispers** what do you mean theres no bloopers for this video? **whispers** hes just that good after so much riding? Damn it.
plenty of bloopers, see our vid 'dirt bike fails: the best hard enduro riders crash' 😊
People don’t understand there is no substitute for riding the bike for cardio. I go to the gym all the time but it’s not the same as riding the bike lol.
Like is said over and over... Seat time. Seat time. Seat time..
From the looks of it, its more like - time on the footpegs
Oh yeah, and ride trials 😃
How tall are you tim?
i think he's around 190cm or so.
💪🏻
Seems at his skill level this vid isn't realistic. Could you have him redo it on a KTM 1290, BMW R1200GS or Triumph 1200?
that would be fun, CK. he does have a vid on his channel where he is riding some big road bike backwards and balancing it at a standstill but that's about it.
I always thought he was a robot who knew.
Bugger me wow
Jarvis does a lot more than just ride his bike. Walker does plenty of resistance training. Bulking up does not cause arm pump. What an odd video.
chronic exertional compartment syndrome is still poorly understood but building muscle mass is still suspected of being a contributing factor: "Chronic exertional compartment syndrome of the forearms secondary to weight training"
S. Jawed, A. S. M. Jawad, N. Padhiar, J. D. Perry
Rheumatology, Volume 40, Issue 3, March 2001, Pages 344-345, doi.org/10.1093/rheumatology/40.3.344
so my diet of beer and donuts isn't a good idea?
brilliant if weighting the rear wheel for traction... a bit problematic when attempting to deweight though 🤔😢
Drugs is key
1:29 Oh, thank god! Here I was thinking he was gonna tell us to run 10k a day. Running is fecking bullshit
With cgi anyone can be a good rider. Just like him.
Lol
What kinda “drugs” we talking here? 😂
Hey I saw drugs in the list...........is it free :D
>Drugs< sorry i can only afford one expensive hobby
It's only expensive if you fuck up
2nd comment
"Surgery/Drugs" = dumb funny!
first! :)
Tim Coleman doesn't do what Tim Coleman does FOR Tim Coleman.
Tim Coleman does what Tim Coleman does because HE IS Tim Coleman