Yo why does everyone had or has a crush on Percy? Nico, Rachel, Annabeth, Reyna, Calypso, one of the amazons, and maybe so my ship Jercy becomes cannon Jason
"Aphrodite he could understand" she cursed her daughter in law to a quest in the underworld and great suffering to prove her love. Hardly considerate beautiful or kind of aphrodite 😭 jason your girlfriend's mom is equally as toxic
Cupid is such a horrible person. Nobody should ever HAVE to come out it's their own self and they get to choose. Honestly this chapter is so wrong on so many different levels. It's such a brushed over thing but made such a big impact on young queer listeners. Riordan is a straight white man but he really captured the guilt you feel for just being yourself. Seriously I'll never get over how needed this chapter was no matter how gut-wrenching and painful it was.
I’m not gay but I felt the injustice frfr. It’s such a personal thing to even say that you have a crush. but to grow up in a time where queer people were seen as a horrible thing, then get a crush on a boy and YOU HAVE TO COME OUT AND SAY IT? to a guy you barely know no less (and the guys is really good friends with the boy). I would be sick too 😭
While I agree with your point it is fictional and Cupid is the living embodiment of love and like he says it’s hard work and painful and not what you expect but it is also beautiful and that’s why it’s worth the other aspects. I think it couldn’t have been done better
@ohiostateman740i just mean it’s more difficult to truly understand what it feels like. i’m queer and i wouldn’t have been able to put it into words as well as he does.
Rereading/listening to PJO and HOO after 10 years since first encounter I can understand how these books shaped me. It was painful for 12 years old me to lister to Nico being outed. It was exact time my friends started coming out and figuring out themselves. It was brave and considerate of Rick to include queer characters into books despite the rage of some fans. It is amazing that such a popular series has queer representation that raised middle schoolers more inclusive. After ten years it is still so hard to read, just feeling this pain. I can’t imagine being forced to coming out in front of basically strangers
Oh Man.... OH MAN, This chapter brought back Trauma I been repressing, Frick... I feel you, Nico... WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THIS IS THE BOOK HE WAS OUTED, I WASN'T EMOTIONALLY PREPARED FOR IT HHDSBJHAVSDJHSAJDHB
this chapter made me feel a lot of diff emotions... like I was happy and giggling a lot because this was the chapter... but then again I feel bad for Nico being cast out and him having hurtful thoughts about himself. its hard to watch sometimes man...
Really? Reading it for the first time here and considering this was over 10 years ago ish, I really like the way it was done. But maybe that’s just my Nico bias
im not trying to start a “prove it.” argument im just genuinely curious what are your opinions on how he could’ve been revealed instead? im interested to hear your thoughts.
it is terrible and horrific but unfortunately its an extreme version on how a lot of people have to come out. i had to come out when my mum read a therapy journal without my consent when i was thirteen and reading this for the first time nico reacted the exact same way i felt when it happened
My personal interpretation is that it's not necessarily a retcon, but rather a factor that provides an extra layer of nuance to Nico's past feelings of hatred towards Percy; it's no longer just a matter of Nico hating Percy for "causing" his sister's death, but rather it's that, paired with Nico feeling doubly betrayed because he not only trusted, but also really liked Percy.
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Not Nico getting outed by Cupid
Real😭😭😭
I FUGGING KNEW IT!!! The second they started talking about Nico’s love I KNEWWWWWWWW it was about Percy
This chapter hits hard 😭
LITERALLY
It really does
U gay?
One of the best chapters!!!!!!
For real
"You like Percy, no way me too!" - Jason
Annabeth, Reyna, Calypso and Rachel:
No wayyyyyy me toooooo
Yo why does everyone had or has a crush on Percy? Nico, Rachel, Annabeth, Reyna, Calypso, one of the amazons, and maybe so my ship Jercy becomes cannon Jason
@@Sophie_Knight_anzu we all have a crush on percy
I literally cried on the spot
Cupid: why are you gay
Nico: who says I’m gay
Cupid: you are gay
Me and my mom quote this all the time
seriously the only eason why i smiled druing this chaper so thank you for your service.
Lmaooo the way the wind god said I fell in love with a dude
And Apollo too😂
17:34 nico saying he was young and impressionable- he’s only 14 now, the trauma that kids had to go through is insane that i forgot he wasn’t older
Omg this chapter is insane so much revealed for Nico I still very much like his character
"Aphrodite he could understand" she cursed her daughter in law to a quest in the underworld and great suffering to prove her love. Hardly considerate beautiful or kind of aphrodite 😭 jason your girlfriend's mom is equally as toxic
Cupid is such a horrible person. Nobody should ever HAVE to come out it's their own self and they get to choose. Honestly this chapter is so wrong on so many different levels. It's such a brushed over thing but made such a big impact on young queer listeners. Riordan is a straight white man but he really captured the guilt you feel for just being yourself. Seriously I'll never get over how needed this chapter was no matter how gut-wrenching and painful it was.
I could have never put that in better words
I’m not gay but I felt the injustice frfr. It’s such a personal thing to even say that you have a crush. but to grow up in a time where queer people were seen as a horrible thing, then get a crush on a boy and YOU HAVE TO COME OUT AND SAY IT? to a guy you barely know no less (and the guys is really good friends with the boy). I would be sick too 😭
Riordan being white and a man has nothing to do with anything relating to this chapter
While I agree with your point it is fictional and Cupid is the living embodiment of love and like he says it’s hard work and painful and not what you expect but it is also beautiful and that’s why it’s worth the other aspects. I think it couldn’t have been done better
@ohiostateman740i just mean it’s more difficult to truly understand what it feels like. i’m queer and i wouldn’t have been able to put it into words as well as he does.
Cupid: I know what you are
Rereading/listening to PJO and HOO after 10 years since first encounter I can understand how these books shaped me. It was painful for 12 years old me to lister to Nico being outed. It was exact time my friends started coming out and figuring out themselves. It was brave and considerate of Rick to include queer characters into books despite the rage of some fans. It is amazing that such a popular series has queer representation that raised middle schoolers more inclusive.
After ten years it is still so hard to read, just feeling this pain. I can’t imagine being forced to coming out in front of basically strangers
If I were there, I would want to give Nico a hug. ❤
Don’t mind me, just listening to this chapter because I want pain today
Why do I relate to this 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I feel so bad for Nico
Cupid- I know what you are
Nico- No you don't!
Cupid- You're gay
I fucking cried guys. I feel u nico. Fuck. 😭
NICO IS GAY AND HE LIKE PERCY!? I HEARD RIGHT… RIGHT?
Yep!
I knew I liked Nico for a reason. I kin this character sm 😭
Uncle Rick really said I'm gonna make an mc who is loved by all 😅😅😅😅
I'm crying, my poor boy Nico💔💔💔
dunno why, but so much homophobia in this comment sect… while the gods and roman/greek are actually have some bisexual encounters.
Welp Daym nico’s gay
you say that like its an issue when it isn't.
SOLANGELO FOR LIFE AND ID BE GAY FOR NICO
Oh Man.... OH MAN, This chapter brought back Trauma I been repressing, Frick... I feel you, Nico...
WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THIS IS THE BOOK HE WAS OUTED, I WASN'T EMOTIONALLY PREPARED FOR IT HHDSBJHAVSDJHSAJDHB
this chapter made me feel a lot of diff emotions... like I was happy and giggling a lot because this was the chapter... but then again I feel bad for Nico being cast out and him having hurtful thoughts about himself. its hard to watch sometimes man...
17:02 so Cupid is tough love he makes u face the truth no matter what
15:21 OMGGGGGGG YALL THOUGHT HE HAD A CRUSH ON ANNABETH WHEN IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE ‼️‼️‼️‼️
3:01 what finally a lgbt community chapter throughout this whole series there’s no gay people or barely black people 😩😩
best chapter in the entire book series
Holy fuck I cried
i was crying while i listened at work
13:32 there’s two sides to every story so don’t only believe Percy’s
16:20 And in that moment, the world went:
WHAHAJAHSHAHSHHSJAHAHAHAHHAHAHAGEGAHGSGAGHAGSGSGSGABACKUPWHATNICOITALLMAKESSENSEAHHHHH
11:45 Cupid is like tough love
3:13 WE ARE GOING TO FIGUIRE OUT NICO IS GAY IT HAS TO BE
10:30 Cupid lowkey a coward
Love this chapter so much but also hate how Nico had to confess to Cupid 😢
anyone know where the fanarts from?
It's from the authors site. Some lady did it for him and some of the comic looking ones are from some graphic novel-ish version
I think the comic is from Space Dementia on tumblr.
y’all looking back on it this was a terrible way to make it known that you’re character is gay…
Really? Reading it for the first time here and considering this was over 10 years ago ish, I really like the way it was done. But maybe that’s just my Nico bias
im not trying to start a “prove it.” argument im just genuinely curious what are your opinions on how he could’ve been revealed instead? im interested to hear your thoughts.
it is terrible and horrific but unfortunately its an extreme version on how a lot of people have to come out. i had to come out when my mum read a therapy journal without my consent when i was thirteen and reading this for the first time nico reacted the exact same way i felt when it happened
Nico😭😭
5:37 bookmark
3:31
16:20
RAAAAAAA
Why did I listen to this chapter¿????????????????.
I’m perfectly ok with Nico being gay, but I think retconning his motives in the original series is dumb and doesn’t really make sense
My personal interpretation is that it's not necessarily a retcon, but rather a factor that provides an extra layer of nuance to Nico's past feelings of hatred towards Percy; it's no longer just a matter of Nico hating Percy for "causing" his sister's death, but rather it's that, paired with Nico feeling doubly betrayed because he not only trusted, but also really liked Percy.
Why must we make the cool characters gay
Hes the only one! You got percy and jason let me have one gay boy!
Shut up Tyler 🤓🤡
It’s Greek mythology, everyone in it is bisexual 💀
Its so sad!
Curse you, Rick Riordan!!
16:20