WCBS TV Channel 2, New York City - Early 1958 Sign off Re creation

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
  • The audio for this was recently rediscovered by announcer Jerry Immel, the contributor of the audio clips on TV-Signoffs.com's 1950s Sign-off page. The video features the 1955-58 version of the Television Code Seal of Good Practice. This was the first design to utilize the shape of a TV screen with olive branches on the side. The Seal is original with the clouds background taken by SignOffsGuy some years back.. The WCBS-TV ID slide is an original from the late 1950s (apologies for the fuzzy quality).

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  • @jaworskij
    @jaworskij 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    We need to pressure broadcasters to implement the "Seal of Good Practice" once again.

    • @dariowiter3078
      @dariowiter3078 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck on THAT ever happening again! 😒😒😒😒😒

    • @alexanderarce3341
      @alexanderarce3341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shows such as Mom does qualify for the Seal of good practice.

    • @thewipsportstalkfan3160
      @thewipsportstalkfan3160 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dariowiter3078 yep the trend is broadcasters are pushing the OTHER way to compete with the Netflixes, Hulus and other pay TV competition. a rigid code of standards, even a modified code would kill off the already quick-declining broadcast enviroment. thats why the major networks have to expand into non-broadcast businesses.

    • @wturner777
      @wturner777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dariowiter3078 I know right? It's not just three channels anymore.

    • @SpectrumAssociates
      @SpectrumAssociates 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thewipsportstalkfan3160 even antenna TV got reprimanded by streaming.

  • @TXPAScot
    @TXPAScot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice. I can't help but wonder how many announcers reasoned that it was only a matter of time before TV stations also went to all-night broadcasting, leaving them one less chore to record.

  • @caatcher
    @caatcher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The next broadcast day begins at 7:55 a.m. Holy cow. That's five minutes of news and weather, and then right into Captain Kangaroo.

    • @SignOffsGuy
      @SignOffsGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt this clip was recorded on a weeknight. More likely it was recorded late Friday night or Saturday night.

    • @caatcher
      @caatcher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SignOffsGuy Maybe. I remember that the first program of the weekday was Sunrise Semester, which was usually? always? hosted by a professor from NYU or Columbia. You could get college credit for watching and following along. I wonder if anybody ever did.

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In those days, WCBS-TV signed off around ~3 A.M. (In the lead-up to here, there was "The Late Show," "The Late Late Show," "The Late News" which was a sign-off newscast read off-camera by staff announcers, and even then "Give Us This Day," all followed by this sign-off.) So there would have no doubt been a cut carrier after the "SSB," not to resume transmitting until about 15 minutes prior to sign-on. This was the normal at Channel 2 up to February 26, 1963 when, to commemorate the 12th anniversary of "The Late Show's" debut, they switched to a 24/7 transmission schedule with only one hour or so between broadcast days (and a "Late Late Show II," with "III" and even "IV" on late Saturday nights and early Sunday mornings).

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SignOffsGuy - There may have also been a telop accompanying the promo for WCBS radio and their "Music 'Til Dawn," in-between the NARTB seal and the then-current WCBS-TV logo.

    • @vln2012
      @vln2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wmbrown6 Feb 26 1963 is the day WCBS TV began to transmit a signal 24 hours a day instead of a cut carrier after signoff? I think WCAU TV and the rest of the CBS O&OS soon followed this lead, either with an all night movie programming schedule or an end to the days programming schedule and just remain transmitting all night until sign on in case of breaking news emergencies , i thought this happened after the Kennedy assasination. Correct me if i am wrong.

  • @luislaplume8261
    @luislaplume8261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1958, let's see now,ch2,ch4,ch5,ch7 ch9 ch11 ch13. That's it? NYC is the TV Capitol of America! I was only 2 years old in borough of Queens.

  • @ritchienavarro2920
    @ritchienavarro2920 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This sign off of wcbs channel 2 during the analog television era ntsc is historical wow 1958

  • @ericsamuelson5656
    @ericsamuelson5656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Music til Dawn" ran on WCBS 880AM from 1953-70 and was sponsored by American Airlines. Bob Hall died in 1967 at age 42.

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And after Hall's death, CBS staff announcer Don Robertson assumed the "M'tD" hosting duties until the show's end.

    • @ApartmentKing66
      @ApartmentKing66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Ken Ackerman hosted the KCBS version in the Bay Area.

    • @armorybrunotjr.3204
      @armorybrunotjr.3204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Christopher Hagee The Washington version of "Music Til Dawn" was heard on WTOP-AM 1500, with Terry Hourigan during the 1960s.

    • @davehire1433
      @davehire1433 ปีที่แล้ว

      And on KNX in Los Angeles, it was hosted by George Walsh. You’ve heard his voice...”Gunnnnsmoke, starring James Arness as Matt Dillon!”

    • @gidzmobug2323
      @gidzmobug2323 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, fairly young!

  • @colettenasielski7974
    @colettenasielski7974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brings Back Memories

  • @newstarcadefan
    @newstarcadefan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah this find is historical. Especially since this was before WCBS-880 went to all-news.

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Christopher Hagee - And by then, WCBS had expanded to ~23 hour broadcast days (and their test pattern on the air for an hour) beginning in 1963, thus disincentivizing staff announcers from cross-promoting their radio station.

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Christopher Hagee - For night-owls who worked super late shifts - which to WCBS meant more $$$ in revenue. And advertisers willing to line their pockets.

    • @vln2012
      @vln2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wmbrown6 in addition it was a cbs mandate to stay transmitting 24 7 in case of breaking news overnight in which the network would be ready to go within minutes , also due to money as well as you said but probably due to breaking news emergencies

    • @caatcher
      @caatcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Christopher Hagee It was more gradual than that, since WCBS was still under the obligation to run Music 'Til Dawn (sponsored by American Airlines) and the audio-only reruns of the previous weekday's Art Linkletter's House Party. WCBS went (almost) all-news in August 1967. House Party ran on radio until the following October 13, and Music 'Til Dawn lasted until January 4, 1970.

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@caatcher - WCBS Newsradio 88 was also forced to carry "Arthur Godfrey Time" until it finally ended on April 30, 1972. For them, "The Ol' Redhead" became as much a millstone 'round their necks as "Don McNeill's Breakfast Club" had become for "Music Power" WABC (especially as far as Rick Sklar was concerned) up to the point ABC Radio was split into four different networks on Jan. 1, 1968.

  • @tonymarzocco8962
    @tonymarzocco8962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Best in view, channel 2"

  • @fromthesidelines
    @fromthesidelines 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:39- "MUSIC TIL DAWN", sponsored by American Airlines, was heard on WCBS-AM {Midnight-6am} from 1953 through 1967, when they shifted to an "all-news" format (it continued on WCBS-FM and other CBS affiliates through 1970).

  • @colleendefabbio7736
    @colleendefabbio7736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found the sign-off film that this station used at the time.
    th-cam.com/video/aJsyjg32mSk/w-d-xo.html

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would WCBS have used for its SSB film between 1959-60 and the first use of the color 'CBS SSB' with the Washington, DC landmarks c.1966?

  • @LiberalPeaceKeeper
    @LiberalPeaceKeeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Are there plans to do a WBBM TV 1963 sign off?

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only if the audio turns up.

  • @alexanderarce3341
    @alexanderarce3341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What time did stations signed off?

    • @ApartmentKing66
      @ApartmentKing66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Depended on the station and what they had scheduled to air.

    • @Bentom86
      @Bentom86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Growing up as a young insomniac in NY\NJ in the 70s, I do remember WCBS always being the last channel to sign off (after The Late Late Show). Sometimes they would go off the air for only an hour or so. On NBC, The Tonight Show ended at 1am ET followed by The Tomorrow Show. And I think WNBC sometimes had a 90 min movie after that before a little news & sign off. And same for WABC. And with the independents, I think WOR (with Joe Franklin) stayed on later than WPIX & WNEW. It really wasn’t until the early-mid 80s that all NY stations started going 24/7. But this is only from my own memories & probably dead wrong!

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bentom86- Your memories, actually, sound like post-1973. Before then (and Tom Snyder's "Tomorrow" debuting), for WNBC after "Tonight" there was a 15-minute news update, "Tonight's News" (the last on-camera anchor of which was John Masterman), followed by "The Great Great Show," then the sermonette, sign-off (before 1975, I.I.N.M., and the abandonment of their 1972 'TV 4' logo, the pre-recorded sign-off was delivered, from my recollection, by Mel Brandt "on behalf of Channel 4, Your Community-Minded Station") and the Army SSB with various Washington, DC landmarks. It was after Snyder's debut (and "The Great Great Show" moved thereafterwards) that WNBC's slides-only sign-off news before the Sermonette came to be. Among those "golden voices" handling that shift would have been John Clarke, Jerry Damon, Bill Rippe, Arthur Gary, Bill Hanrahan, and Fred Facey.
      Somewhere in WABC-TV's sign-off sequence (just don't know where at this point), there was a cross-promo for WABC Musicradio 77 (produced in 1971) with then-overnight DJ (from 1970 to 1976) Jay Reynolds:
      th-cam.com/video/JIGesIsUhy4/w-d-xo.html
      WPIX usually signed off in those days around 1:30 A.M., after the 1 A.M. slides-only and field-reports-repeat-from-10-P.M. "Night Final" read by Roy Whitfield.
      WNEW-TV's sign-off appears to have been around the same time as, if not a bit later from, WOR-TV's. For a time in 1972-73, Channel 5's broadcast schedule was 24/7. It is likely the post-1973 energy crisis that put an end to that.

  • @alexanderarce3341
    @alexanderarce3341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you do a WABD / WNEW sign off?

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only if the audio turns up. On the TV-signoffs site, there's already a 1959 WNEW-TV sign-off by a younger (and more sober sounding) Lou Steele, whose delivery contrasts wildly with the sign-off newscast he read around the time of the 1985 Super Bowl.

  • @annastasia4403
    @annastasia4403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good old black and white tv an interesting look at the golden age of tv

  • @miguelperez-gb5kr
    @miguelperez-gb5kr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do: WANE TV Channel 15 Fort Wayne IN - Early 1962 Sign off Re creation

    • @SignOffsGuy
      @SignOffsGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry, no can do right now, for I don't have anything from WANE-TV at the moment

    • @miguelperez-gb5kr
      @miguelperez-gb5kr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SignOffsGuy oh man! :(

  • @wmbrown6
    @wmbrown6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can anyone identify which announcer handled this sign-off?

    • @SignOffsGuy
      @SignOffsGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't help you there. Jerry Immel, the man who found the audio, couldn't remember who it was.

    • @vln2012
      @vln2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds a little like Roger Forster.

    • @wmbrown6
      @wmbrown6 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vln2012 - Naw . . . a bit more like veteran announcer Warren Sweeney. Listen to the open of th-cam.com/video/QZaX_haTb1I/w-d-xo.html for comparison. Never mind that that clip was 16 years before this aircheck.

  • @renitaparkhurst787
    @renitaparkhurst787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @fannytoala7322
    @fannytoala7322 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wtf is this card??