A friend was in a bind after he bought a used jeep and it broke down and needed to remove the wheel. We used a wet rag to wrap around the lugnut to protect the wheel and welded a large nut to it .
You are correct, if they want it they will take it, but this just helps slow down the process for those looking for a quick job. I had to do that with the locks on a car I have. Now I need to figure out how to get a new key so I can use them again.
i worked for a decent sized auto/tire shop for a few years. ive have delt with customers that lost their wheel locks way to many times to count. when this happened. the methods you show work an ive used them. my goto was a air hammer with a chisel bit. it was pretty much a universal key for all the locks. if you can get to them without marring up a rim. so just go in at a angle on the wheel lock an can spin it right off with the air hammer.. worst case you can always cut it off the stud with the air hammer if ur having problems , you just may have to replace the stud when your finished that way. . one thing id suggest is going to your local tire shop, sometimes they have a key set like we did, we did not have every variety of key but we had a handfull of common wheel lock keys at the shop.
Easy out sockets work good. The first one you showed is the one that I was talking about. You can separate the socket with a drift punch and a vice. I have the gorilla locks and have a extra lock socket in the house for that very reason. Been there, done that!
For the tuner or spline lugs, a 17mm 6pt with a piece of 3/32 welding rod or drill bit slid in one or two (if over torqued) spline flutes works like a charm.
The Mercedes Benz wheel locks are the best, almost impossible to get off. The bolt holes are very small so you can’t fit any other sockets in it other than the traditional 17”. And they also have the rotating ring around the lock.
I had the mcgard ones get stuck on my moms car when the key snapped off (yes I used a handheld breaker bar to torque the wheel locks). I got lucky and went to harbor freight and bought a wheel lock removal kit which is the same as your rounded bolt removal tool you used. I couldn't use my cordless or pneumatic impact guns to get the lock nut loose as it kept rounding off the edge of the lock. I ended up being successful by using a sledge hammer to keep pounding on the head of my ratchet while keeping tension on the breaker bar I was using to unscrew the lock.
About 5weeks ago I did a break job on my Silverado. Then a couple weeks later I was going to replace the plugs and wires. The easy way to do this is through the wheel well. Wouldn't you know it I couldn't find the lug nut lock key. (I think I may have left it on one of the wheels, because I still have not found it.) I went to autozone, got one of the lock nut removers and it worked like a charm. Throw it in a vice with the base of the lock nut clamped and remove the "easyout." My luck is that I will eventually find it in an odd place.
Realistically, locks will only keep honest people honest. If a thief wants to steal your locked item he already knows how to defeat lock. Good video though. 👍
Those extractors should be used by hand not with an impact. Ive seen people "machine" the fastener down with them instead of it biting. I also keep a set of those spline drive sockets that are supposed to fit everything but really dont fit anything. Welding is typically the quickest way but ive found some locking lugnuts you cant weld to. 3m makes welding paper to help with spatter. Cut a hole in it to fit around the lugnut to minimize damage.
Hi Matt most of your dealer lug nuts are Maggard my God makes a master set for Impact Guns my experiences they work very good cuz they actually fit the pattern mcgard has like 10 different patterns they use are there other type of lug nuts yeah they won't fit what make you said Dodge GM Ford they do use the card problem of it is you can go to the store and get my card for under $50 so what you tell the dealership is take them off put the lug nuts back on
Make sure if you use a socket its a 12 point, and id advise against using an impact hammer, it might just strip the outside of the lock. Just got one off in 5 minutes, so much for a wheel lock😂
Those wheel locks with the pretzel pattern should be out lawed. I had a full set of those on my Oldsmobile. One lug nut was seized tight. A friend of mine came over and showed me a trick. He put a slightly over sized cobalt socket over the bad one. Beat it on with a hammer. Then used the four way lug wrench. He was standing on the end of the lug wrench and the bad lug finally broke free. I replaced all the lug nuts with normal chrome ones.
The chicken bit was pretty good. I don't believe putting more torque on all the other lugs will reduce the torque need to remove the lock nut though. It would be easy to myth bust with a torque wrench. Torque all nuts to proper torque then check to see how much torque is required to loosen one. Then torque them all to proper torque again, increase the torque of 4 of the 5 and then check to see how much torque it takes to remove the 5th. I seriously doubt it will be less than the first test.
Maybe not on an aluminum wheel but on a steel wheel you can visibly see the steel bending in when you tighten the lug nuts as the rear mating surface is not flat.
I have always hated those stupid lug nuts. I worked in dealerships for 15 years and you wouldn’t believe how many customers don’t have the key to them or don’t bother putting it out where you can find them. I just love tearing through the glove compartment and everywhere else in some strangers vehicle looking for a stupid lug nut socket only to end up beating a socket on to remove it. Good times. I remove them from any vehicle I buy and replace them with a good solid nut. Same thing for those cheap ass nuts ford uses with the thin cap of chrome over the nut. The nut swells under the chrome and or the chrome part comes off and then you’re ruining sockets getting them off. Actually, those cheap 2 piece lug nuts are probably better protection against theft than locking lug nuts after a few years in the weather
I was pretty sad to see how short this video is, and to see what the topic was! My favorite part of your channel is the 20-30min build videos. I’m sure you have your reasons, but I hope the next video is about 45-60 minutes, to make up for today’s shortness lol
@@bleepinjeep well I guess I’ll accept your apology and watch it too 🙄 lmao. There’s a lot of offroad type channels that post on Sundays, yours are the ones I look forward to.
I had a nail in my tire and it was going flat so I had so much time. Went to chance and stupid lock lug was on there with no key🤬 luckily my local tire shop had a the right spline key
I could really use, as I assume your going to use on the built-in. And if I dug, I'll pribfjnd one from you l but a stearing stabilizer for d*mies episode. Can't find a good video and I really can understand your break downs well, before I wobble off the road, I could use input 🤖
Thankfully with this type of expensive lug nut lock people will usually only use one per wheel. Most kits come with 4 locks or 5 for Jeeps because of the rear mounted spare.
Welp, the fact that I can find Wheel Lock Extractors at *the same place* that I can find Wheel Locks tells me _all I need to know_ about the security and ease-of-use of Wheel Locks.
Good Sunday morning to. Hay thanks for the video and wrenching 🛠️🪛🔨 Remember everyone seek Jesus Christ in your life and let him into your heart. For he is the answer through it all in life ✝️🙏💪
The real truth is in the last 30 seconds. Don’t mess around with wheel locks. Yeah sometimes you buy vehicles with locks already on. Swap em out. And while we’re at it can we talk about the crappy 2 piece lug nuts with a stamped outer cover on the actual nut. Designed to look like a solid milled cap nut, but always fail in practice due to swelling of the outer cover and separating from the lug nut and or a socket not fitting the swelled cover. So irritating.
Matt, the 12 point socket is the preferred method but, no wheel lock is the best solution!!!
A friend was in a bind after he bought a used jeep and it broke down and needed to remove the wheel. We used a wet rag to wrap around the lugnut to protect the wheel and welded a large nut to it .
One of the easiest solutions if you have access to a welder!
@@bleepinjeep don't have a welder....don't do off-road
So glad people like you show people how to rip off even more of my stuff I worked for.
PRECISELY what I thought .
The "chicken noodle soup" gave me a good laugh 😂
Ditto! 😁
I read this comment before I saw the reference and I was so confused how that would fit into this video 😂
Remember, “a lock only keeps an honest person honest”.
Great video Matt. Loved the grinding and putting wrench idea 💕👏👍
You are correct, if they want it they will take it, but this just helps slow down the process for those looking for a quick job. I had to do that with the locks on a car I have. Now I need to figure out how to get a new key so I can use them again.
i worked for a decent sized auto/tire shop for a few years. ive have delt with customers that lost their wheel locks way to many times to count. when this happened. the methods you show work an ive used them. my goto was a air hammer with a chisel bit. it was pretty much a universal key for all the locks. if you can get to them without marring up a rim. so just go in at a angle on the wheel lock an can spin it right off with the air hammer.. worst case you can always cut it off the stud with the air hammer if ur having problems , you just may have to replace the stud when your finished that way. . one thing id suggest is going to your local tire shop, sometimes they have a key set like we did, we did not have every variety of key but we had a handfull of common wheel lock keys at the shop.
Easy out sockets work good. The first one you showed is the one that I was talking about. You can separate the socket with a drift punch and a vice. I have the gorilla locks and have a extra lock socket in the house for that very reason. Been there, done that!
Always great to know how to remove factory wheel locks.
For the tuner or spline lugs, a 17mm 6pt with a piece of 3/32 welding rod or drill bit slid in one or two (if over torqued) spline flutes works like a charm.
Best advice at the end. And check what the spares got so you’re not caught out.
Got me to laugh out-loud at the Chicken Soup shot😂😂
The Mercedes Benz wheel locks are the best, almost impossible to get off. The bolt holes are very small so you can’t fit any other sockets in it other than the traditional 17”. And they also have the rotating ring around the lock.
Currently dealing with this issue with my 2019 c300. Tire guy is still trying to find a way around it.
Had the same problem with my sons Liberty Matt, got lucky that vise grips worked!
I had the mcgard ones get stuck on my moms car when the key snapped off (yes I used a handheld breaker bar to torque the wheel locks). I got lucky and went to harbor freight and bought a wheel lock removal kit which is the same as your rounded bolt removal tool you used. I couldn't use my cordless or pneumatic impact guns to get the lock nut loose as it kept rounding off the edge of the lock. I ended up being successful by using a sledge hammer to keep pounding on the head of my ratchet while keeping tension on the breaker bar I was using to unscrew the lock.
oh man that soup clip had me laughing way too hard
Thanks
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
About 5weeks ago I did a break job on my Silverado. Then a couple weeks later I was going to replace the plugs and wires. The easy way to do this is through the wheel well. Wouldn't you know it I couldn't find the lug nut lock key. (I think I may have left it on one of the wheels, because I still have not found it.) I went to autozone, got one of the lock nut removers and it worked like a charm. Throw it in a vice with the base of the lock nut clamped and remove the "easyout." My luck is that I will eventually find it in an odd place.
Did you run through this a few years ago?
Oops, you addressed that. Thank you!
Wouldn't it be better just to buy the proper key ! 😝
If you had the time or knew what key to order then ya sure
So happy to find a link to the chicken soup on Amazon! 😂
Realistically, locks will only keep honest people honest. If a thief wants to steal your locked item he already knows how to defeat lock. Good video though. 👍
In my younger days I worked at tire shop in major city there was only 8 designs just keep the keys super easy
Bleepin jeep the black tuner are the same size as a 19mm we use 19s. At work the Mopar wheel lock can be taken off with 24mm
Lol wow... I died laughing after that chicken was setting there and then you cut scene to eating chicken noodle soup 😂
Very nice informative video. Mean to chickens tho.😉
Those extractors should be used by hand not with an impact. Ive seen people "machine" the fastener down with them instead of it biting. I also keep a set of those spline drive sockets that are supposed to fit everything but really dont fit anything. Welding is typically the quickest way but ive found some locking lugnuts you cant weld to. 3m makes welding paper to help with spatter. Cut a hole in it to fit around the lugnut to minimize damage.
Great video!
To get that one off you should have turned the drill driver to forward. Reverse threaded forward should have backed it off ! Maybe ?
Hi Matt most of your dealer lug nuts are Maggard my God makes a master set for Impact Guns my experiences they work very good cuz they actually fit the pattern mcgard has like 10 different patterns they use are there other type of lug nuts yeah they won't fit what make you said Dodge GM Ford they do use the card problem of it is you can go to the store and get my card for under $50 so what you tell the dealership is take them off put the lug nuts back on
Make sure if you use a socket its a 12 point, and id advise against using an impact hammer, it might just strip the outside of the lock. Just got one off in 5 minutes, so much for a wheel lock😂
Those wheel locks with the pretzel pattern should be out lawed. I had a full set of those on my Oldsmobile. One lug nut was seized tight. A friend of mine came over and showed me a trick. He put a slightly over sized cobalt socket over the bad one. Beat it on with a hammer. Then used the four way lug wrench. He was standing on the end of the lug wrench and the bad lug finally broke free. I replaced all the lug nuts with normal chrome ones.
Hobo frieght has good sets
Good vid.
The chicken bit was pretty good. I don't believe putting more torque on all the other lugs will reduce the torque need to remove the lock nut though. It would be easy to myth bust with a torque wrench. Torque all nuts to proper torque then check to see how much torque is required to loosen one. Then torque them all to proper torque again, increase the torque of 4 of the 5 and then check to see how much torque it takes to remove the 5th. I seriously doubt it will be less than the first test.
Maybe not on an aluminum wheel but on a steel wheel you can visibly see the steel bending in when you tighten the lug nuts as the rear mating surface is not flat.
@@bleepinjeep You'll have to add it to your viewer mythbusters episode. :)
I have always hated those stupid lug nuts. I worked in dealerships for 15 years and you wouldn’t believe how many customers don’t have the key to them or don’t bother putting it out where you can find them. I just love tearing through the glove compartment and everywhere else in some strangers vehicle looking for a stupid lug nut socket only to end up beating a socket on to remove it. Good times. I remove them from any vehicle I buy and replace them with a good solid nut. Same thing for those cheap ass nuts ford uses with the thin cap of chrome over the nut. The nut swells under the chrome and or the chrome part comes off and then you’re ruining sockets getting them off. Actually, those cheap 2 piece lug nuts are probably better protection against theft than locking lug nuts after a few years in the weather
I bet tire shops really hate those things.
Love the chicken noodle soup
Wheel thieves thank you for the tip and the wheel locks have become useless
This implies that wheel locks have any value to begin with.
Hammering the whell nut may ruine bearing
I was pretty sad to see how short this video is, and to see what the topic was! My favorite part of your channel is the 20-30min build videos. I’m sure you have your reasons, but I hope the next video is about 45-60 minutes, to make up for today’s shortness lol
Lol, we've got 35 minutes coming up for you on Wednesday
@@bleepinjeep well I guess I’ll accept your apology and watch it too 🙄 lmao. There’s a lot of offroad type channels that post on Sundays, yours are the ones I look forward to.
That's a great Fresh Lunch 😅
Who does this type of destructive test on anything but a mock up or a beater/junk wheel? He’s definitely gonna need a new wheel stud.
That’s why I enjoy watching your videos. I get iders. Haha 😊 God Bless 😊 love the chicken too haha 😊
Should name and shame the dealers ;-)
Lol @ your homemade chicken noodle
Was the most expensive buy a lathe to get the nuts out of the sockets😉? Or where they cheap foreign so it did not matter😉?
Wow the point is it's not worth spending the money for lug nut protector just get a good insurance that's crazy thanks
I would just buy a set of wheel stud lock remover sockets from Harbor Freight for $39.95. But I'm boring though. 😉
I had a nail in my tire and it was going flat so I had so much time.
Went to chance and stupid lock lug was on there with no key🤬 luckily my local tire shop had a the right spline key
Nice, you got lucky!
@@bleepinjeep love the vids Matt can’t wait till on x competition. Been voting !!
I could really use, as I assume your going to use on the built-in. And if I dug, I'll pribfjnd one from you l but a stearing stabilizer for d*mies episode. Can't find a good video and I really can understand your break downs well, before I wobble off the road, I could use input 🤖
use a tig welder and don*t have spatter
The reason the people at the Jeep dealerships told you to piss off was that they saw what you did to that Orvis Edition ZJ.
When you buy a new vehicle do they not put the lug nut key in the glove compartment no more?
The lug keys break often
@@scottstewart9054 ahh
Not in my experience, didn't receive the key and dealership was no help
@@bleepinjeep no wonder Stellantis is on the cusp of going out of business then, can’t even give people a $5 tool anymore.
If you are in the boonies, and the tool gets stuck on the first Lug, what do you do for the other five ? 🤔
😅🤣😂 😁
Thankfully with this type of expensive lug nut lock people will usually only use one per wheel. Most kits come with 4 locks or 5 for Jeeps because of the rear mounted spare.
Welp, the fact that I can find Wheel Lock Extractors at *the same place* that I can find Wheel Locks tells me _all I need to know_ about the security and ease-of-use of Wheel Locks.
Ya, its more of just a deterrent than anything else.
Old news they came out removers in the 1990s
When will the mooks at Dr Pepper decide ot give Matt as sponsership .?
I have three wheel locks on each wheel. Got $10.000 Rims
If there is a wheel lock on the car, you buy They should be bound by law to either remove it or give you the key.
First thing I do with wheel locks is remove them and trash them
Be careful you might get your hands dirty 😣
Good Sunday morning to. Hay thanks for the video and wrenching 🛠️🪛🔨 Remember everyone seek Jesus Christ in your life and let him into your heart. For he is the answer through it all in life ✝️🙏💪
You should call it.. the best way to steal someones rims with locks.
The real truth is in the last 30 seconds. Don’t mess around with wheel locks. Yeah sometimes you buy vehicles with locks already on. Swap em out. And while we’re at it can we talk about the crappy 2 piece lug nuts with a stamped outer cover on the actual nut. Designed to look like a solid milled cap nut, but always fail in practice due to swelling of the outer cover and separating from the lug nut and or a socket not fitting the swelled cover. So irritating.
Good job. Now criminals will be able to steal cars easier
The criminals already have all the methods down pat to get those locking wheel nuts off
I have good insurance and just do not put them on .
Injust cut em off.
What’s wrong with you guys? Showing people how to steal your wheels
educational video for criminals? Do we really need to put this out in the world ?
They already know how to do it. This is common knowledge.
Appreciate your sacrifice in the name of SCIENCE 🫵🤓 you the real MVP, Matt