MEN (2022) Ending Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2022
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In Men, the latest from Alex Garland, a woman feels to the countryside to be alone in the way of a tragedy. But her vacation turns into a living nightmare when she encounters the town's uncannily similar men and her arrival has awoken something primal in the forest. As is usually the case with Garland's flicks, there is a lot going on here! So we're breaking down the story, including Harper's personal journey, whats the deal with all the weird men, and the surprising connections to religion and the cycle of nature that help explain the ending.
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Grieving has a number of stages; shock, denial, surreal body horror, acceptance.
Body horror?
@@lessismore8533 u heard him
@@lessismore8533u heard him
@@lessismore8533 suh real
@@lessismore8533I think that's a joke.😅
I'm fine with a movie having subtext, but I don't like when a movie ONLY makes sense as subtext. This one was such a chore.
Omg I love your videos!!
I was just watching your Tiffany video omg
yeh it looks terrible, glad i just watched this breakdown at 2x speed instead of wasting my time on the full movie
Imagine watching entertainment media and thinking ‘this is a chore’. So go do something productive lmao.
@@TheSCPStudio it’s his job to do that
“It’s like she’s trying to downplay her skills because of being a woman, I’d wager.” No, that’s really _not_ what the movie is saying there. She knew he’d ask her to play it and extend the time she’d have to remain talking with him and answering his questions. She preferred not to play for him and wanted to be alone to try to relax and process her thoughts, so she just said ‘nope, don’t play’. Most painless way to get him out of her hair about the piano
Yes. This is a tactic introverts will use with little discretion to end small talk, and uncomfortable conversations.
it baffles me that the word "no." or the phrase" I don't want to right now" doesn't exist to some people 🤣
@@sharayajeter because some people refuse to take a hint and take it at face value
@@sharayajeter then you live in a bubble.. can’t see what’s so funny about your failure to recognize the luxury you may have of being able to point blank say “no” AND having people respect that. As someone else pointed out, “no” isn’t always respected, and can sometimes lead to confrontation.
@@danix454 EVERYTHING can lead to confrontation . ANY HUMAN can make u feel uncomfortable and peer pressure you into something. i was pointing out the wierd act of not handling that like a grown person and instead lying like a child because u don’t wanna talk 🤣🤣
I feel like nowadays, in modern cinema, it would be absolutely groundbreaking to actually have a firm ending to your film...
Dunno, most recent movies have a pretty boring telegraphed ending you see a mile away.
I agree! I’m tired of having to use critical thinking skills to figure out the ending!
I agree. I'm tired of Frodo walking to Mordor
@@Nik_Key meh, being opened ended can definitely be a way of avoiding writing difficult endings, no need to write it when you can just leave it to the audience.
Frickin A
I went and saw this movie with my sisters and they like to rag on me for being interested in bizarre and "artsy" films. After that ending I have been officially banned from picking the movies.
Fuck em. Artsy films are great. Everyone should have a chance to pick something in the group everyone takes a turn then no one feels left out.
I got banned from picking movies after I chose Teeth and saw it as a conversation starter with bad execution
You’re taking the wrong people. I am the movie chooser but for several different groups of friends. When my friend groups collide, I do not choose… I leave it up to them and make no suggestions. They always wonder why I never have a suggestion when it’s everyone but always for when it’s just 2 or 3 of us.. 😂
To this day I'm still surprised that "The Color Out of Space" was a hit with my entire friend group on vacation one year
@@jacobydove8213 that’s a dangerous one lol
“On this ending explained we’ll be looking at Men.”
Unexpected but not unwelcome
Ayo 🤨
Looking respectfully of course
Huh. Nice catch!
We hit the yaoi part of his career
That made me snort laugh so loud I woke up my cat hahahaha
I actually think Alex's final confrontation with the green man in the form of his ex is like, giving her the scenario she's been asking, would he still be alive if she had given him another chance?, well, in the scene she does give him a chance, she gives him the chance to explain himself, to redeem his actions, to try and win her back, but all he does is demand from her, showing that, no, even with all the time in the world and all the chances, he did that to himself, and there was nothing she could've done to help him.
But that too is in keeping with the idea that that's not really him. He is dead and can never answer that question, so his answers can only come from her own mind. I was of the opinon that the entire movie was Harper working through her trauma not just of his death, but the domestic abuse.
I had a ex like this and yea not fun 5p deal with. He even said he'd off himself if I broke up with him....needless to say that relationship wasn't meant to last. He's alive, luckily I was able to leave before something big happened to me and him. I will say people like that are disgusting and hope he got help.
I think that he might not only have been abusive to her but he was also cheating on her and cheated with her friend who she's been talking to on the phone and her friend is pregnant from his baby thus the reveal at the end remember when she was talking to her on the phone and the phone glitched to her screaming seemingly in anger probably was a reflection of how she felt truly inside knowing that she was betrayed by her husband and her friend
It's not her job to help him. It was his job
It’s sperm and an egg
This film was advertised very strangely, the trailers made it look like a completely different film.
I honestly don’t know how you’d advertise this film
but yes, agreed
I diss your agreement
No they didn't?
@@glenn1974 K?
i JUST watched this movie last night and tried looking up your ending explained and saw there wasn’t one yet … this is perfect 😀
Movie ending was so confusing left my jaw dropped
Hah! Exact same for me. Looked for vid, settled on reddit posts, also saw it last night, lol
I didn't think I was the only one that did this, I watched Vivarium when it first dropped, amazing film, but I needed more info, Foundflix did a solid job on it, but I still need more info, there's way too many things unexplained.
OMG SAME! I just watched this last weekend and as soon at it ended, i looked up Foundflix and saw that there was nothing yet! 😩 But so glad its now here! 👏🏼
same 🫣🫣
When I look at it more literally, this is a really good take on 'so what if a shape-shifting relentless deity with humanoid baggage like Zeus decided to pursue someone'.
Answer: 'Surreal and pretty terrifying, and then, his wife finds out'
Honestly, I think zeus would have made for an interesting story.
It's sort of was Zeus and yeah once the wife finds out all damn Hell Breaks Loose
@@PreacherTHC I felt the symbolism in Men was a bit too vague.
@@lizardbashkins9042 perhaps for the uninitiated
@@PreacherTHC good grief 🙄
My current theory is that the green man is, in fact, the “good guy”. His only purpose is renewal, rebirth, growth, and that’s what he is helping her do. Unlike all the men in the town (who I think are actually real men in the town, whose faces are all blurred into one “man” by her), the green man always appears as naked, mute, expressionless. He is without pretense or concealment or bias. His only goal is to show her what she needs to see to grow and heal from her experience with her ex. And that’s what he does.
Te mental gymnastics
Never thought how those veins growing on him was a metaphor for her growing.
i felt the exact same way after watching this film, but i also agree with the poster's idea; they go hand in hand. To add: she is scared of him the first couple times she sees him, truth and trauma is ugly and uncomfortable- jarring at times. when we see her breathing in the floating seed after seeing him, she doesnt seem necessarily afraid, she seems almost calm. She even seems calm when she stabs him in the arm, its almost like she is accepting and now making an effort to come to terms, but there is still immense unease. and now every "different" dude has the same slit; though the green man was there to help her, he was also there to show her it will always be the same with these men if she doesnt face her fear head on. it seems like all men will morph together and she will be afraid of all men, letting the fear consume her unless she faces it. idk my interpretation def goes with yours, sorry if this was a weird add-on :b
Wow this is the shittest take yet
This is 100% contradiction to the movie criticism on masculinity. The "men" will help her grow? She doesn't need it. She needs to be understood (like the father said and didn't do), her desires and privacy to be respected. The moments of relief the main character has, before the ending, are always linked to understanding
I actually think the green sphere at the end credits is a cell in the later stage of mitosis, but just prior to the separation. It's basically a cell duplicating itself, which would lend to the movie's concept of both rebirth and how the two cells are essentially one in the same when the process is complete.
ANNIHILATION
@@eden20111 MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
It looked like a human female's egg before fertilization to me... but idk... this was a wild movie lol
This is why I like films like this. There are 3 different theories here of JUST what the credits meant, and everyone one of them is valid. It’s great to be able to discuss a film and hear other people viewpoints
The "green sphere at the end credits" was literally the seeds of a dandelion reforming with the dandelion's seedhead.
I'm actually not sure how that resembles cellular mitosis at all.
If you noticed at the end of the movie her friend looks like the men, and is shes also pregnant just where these pregnant men were giving birth. I think the movie is more about trauma than "Men are all the same". Trauma in relationships can cause for all your relationships to feel the same because you look for some comfort in the same. The trauma can also extent to friends and family, this is why i think her friends sends that message. etc just a few thoughts, but I think most people regardless of women or men can agree that the trauma can extend to any relationship. Creating a self-fulling prophecy
THE END OF THEN OF THE OF THE HER FRIEND?????
@Daniel Garrett 🤣🤣
@Daniel Garrett fixed it for you buddy since putting 2 and 2 together gives you a stroke
I agree, especially since that makes more sense in my mind. Neither sex can be "all the same."
Bit of both. Lots of men are the same, but people with trauma can seek the same comfort at time.
The constant questioning of "would he still be alive if she didn't do/say/think this and that" really pissed me off after a while. I really wanted someone to respond "Maybe, but would SHE?" Why was that abusive man's life more important than hers? No one deserves to remain with a violent spouse because the violent spouse wants them to stay, or because they threaten to end themselves if they leave.
That goes for everyone. You don't deserve to be abused, and someone that abuses you should not be your reason to stay. Yes, it's possible for people to change, but only with professional help. If they say they will change but refuse to get help, they are lying. Get out. Stay safe.
You deserve affection, not violence.
Always remember that.
i think that was a point the film was making...
Yeah no dude. You can say that all you want but at the end of the day nobody deserves anything. You get what you give.
The fact that she had the wherewithal to force him out of her house, scream at him, and make harsh demands means she wasn't in any real danger. He shouldn't have hit her, but if she had given him a chance to apologize, he factually would still be alive, at least at that time.
She could have easily taken in his apology, said it wasn't good enough, and kicked him out then. Instead, she kicked a suicidal guy out.
Ps. If we are going down the road of, prioritize yourself over others, even if they are threatening suicide, that opens a lot of doors to a lot of BS happening today. If I don't like a certain group (ethnic, racial, orientation, gender expression, etc.), going by your logic, I should be able to treat them however I want and if they say they'll hurt themselves because of my actions, I can just come back and say their existence is painful and harmful to me.
@@Malthizar once she said it was over he should’ve just accepted her decision instead of trying to force her to stay with him by threatening suicide. He tried to emotionally manipulate her and it didn’t work, Im going with the theory that he fell by mistake after he got kicked out because he was trying to get on the balcony of their apartment.
@@NiC0L317 I agree that he slipped and fell. That doesn't change the fact that he was in that situation because she couldn't just let him apologize before contacting the police.
We aren't talking about what he did wrong. We're talking about the fact that she forced a guy who threatened suicide out without having a chance to explain himself.
The allegories and symbolism discussed here remind me of Mother (2017) starring Jennifer Lawrence & Jarvier Bardem. That’s another one that took weirdness to a whole other scale 📈
Yes that movie was an allegory of Adam and Eve and or even Mankind and his relationship with nature and the Earth
I liked this more than Mother. But I can def see similarities.
@@chadcognac5626 Mother was a slog for me. I did not like it at all. J-Law doesn't help. This one, at least had some gorgeously filmed scenes and a likeable main character. I felt terrible for Harper, especially when the Vicar acts as if James' suicide was her fault and that hitting her was not a capital offense. So, sure, he might be alive, but odds are she wouldn't have been because he would have murdered her eventually. He was seriously in trouble and becoming controlling and horrible.
Considering the original ending was based on American Werewolf in London, then he was inspired by Attack on Titan, I'm pretty sure in the original ending you would have seen a at least one dead body wouldn't be Rory Kinner. There are at least 2 women in the town, the police operator on the phone and the police woman that comes to the scene, that don't have the Vicar's face. And the main character seems to completely ignore that all the men in the town have the exact same face. Suggesting a lot of the movie is happening just in her head.
Yes, that's what I was thinking too, especially since she doesn't really react to them all having them same face.
I was wondering about the same faces too but came to another conclusion. Let me share my thoughts. So first, this is a heavily symbolic and abstract movie which makes it a little harder to pinpoint its concrete storyline. But if we wanted to dig deeper into the same faces, below the uncanny valley it creates and a simple symbol for patriarchy, we can analyze how the story is narrated.
I don't feel like Harper in her reality could have realized these men actually have different faces because I don't think she saw them as having the same face in the first place. She didn't react to them all looking the same because she simply didn't see them that way. There are lots of movies about some kind of trauma or mental processing with unreliable narrators (a great one starring Jessie Buckley is I'm Thinking of Ending Things) but this is usually handled differently in terms of cinematography. For example, think about permanence. Nothing Harper experiences - except maybe for the bird in her kitchen but even that's debatable - is ever contradicted or revealed to have been a hallucination. There WAS a random naked man both in the picture she took and her garden, the police physically took him away. There IS a trail of blood from the rebirth cycle present in that last scene, and Harper's friend seems to see it too. I think that's an important creative decision, especially for a last scene.
This movie feels like it has an omniscient narrator who is showing us more than the main character knows. And that narrator wants to get an idea across, so it uses symbols like the same faces to make us see what Harper doesn't until the very end: All of these men are hurting and controlling her in one way or another. Of course the whole thing relates to her trauma that she has to work through, but she can't heal from it while still being traumatized. I also don't think the movie's message is as simple as "all men are evil", it's more about recognizing patterns of mistreatment - first in the people she is presently dealing with, then in her own ex husband so she can let go of that false guilt.
So yeah, that still doesn't really explain how the plot ended and in what kind of reality which part of the movie took place because it's just not that kind of movie... but I really feel like Men does something different, other than the "it was all in her head" trope. I have no idea what kind of ending Garland originally thought of but the writing of an ending to a movie like that is hard and depends a lot on what you want to say. If he would have shown us that Harper was hallucinating, he would have sent the message that she is unreliable, aka she can't be believed. I don't think that's what he wanted to say with this movie lol. Though the plot is confusing, the story and message seem pretty clear to me.
Garland said Attack on Titan inspired him to use an idea that's visually weird but ultimately simple. That's actually what he did throughout the whole movie. "The words I have to say may well be simple but they're true", to quote the very first thing we hear from Garland's narrator through the song lyrics in the prologue.
If you got that far, thank you for reading.
Beware the moon.
yeah its not "all in her head", all the dudes having the same face is just the director giving us a visual clue as to what the movie is trying to say about men, that they're all going to be bad in some way
Honestly, it took me way too long to realise that they all had the same face. I'm going to assume she didn't see it at first either.
I swear you and dead meat are kindred spirits because James and Chelsea did a podcast like last week talking about this movie haha I love how you guys schedules are kinda in sync haha
They are friends. They go to horror cons together
@@nickneuharth oh I figured they were friends but I didn’t know about them going to horror cons together. That’s cool :)
@@nickneuharth I wish they'd do some more videos together. I loved their previous videos together.
I think more of friendly acquaintances and peers but ye, both great channels
Same!! Being fans of both channels is so great
I finally watched this movie a few nights ago. I couldn’t really get a firm grasp on what it was about other than trauma. It felt almost like if she never confronted these “men” who kept appearing in various forms, she would never fully heal & move on from her own personal grief involving her ex. What she saw with her ex was beyond terrifying. In the end when she finally spoke to her ex, she then realized whatever guilt she may have been harboring wasn’t hers to carry. The symbolism in this film was insane. I appreciate it being explained here.
I have a specific fear of doppelgängers and of home intruders. This movie easily activates both of these fears even without me actually watching the movie in its entirety. Thanks to you, FoundFlix, I will never have to watch this in its entirety. Thank you.
You should watch US (2018) directed by Jordan Peele
@@rowanv.6995 I’ve seen most of it, freaked me the feck out lmao
Watch "the Stranger
It seems as if that dark tunnel she goes into possibly symbolizes a birth canal? It seems as if the person on the other end is her. They seem to be wearing a similar outfit - a type of long jacket. Then they begin running forward and Harper begins to runaway from it. Almost as if she's running away from her own rebirth (was not ready to face her trauma yet). They even seem to run in the same style. OR it could just be the green man. Thoughts?
She's running away from the truth that she's pregnant with her ex husband's kid, who in a way is his rebirth. I think that's why her friend showed up pregnant at the end of the film, and also why we saw the green man blow the spores into her mouth, then we saw in the credits how those spores reformed to make the dandelion whole again, signaling how he would be reborn in her.
I thought the person at the end of the tunnel was the vicar character. The clothing matches and he showed up both times she used her voice. In the tunnel creating a melody with echoes and again when she screams in the church. And when he confronts her in the bathroom and tries to have his way w her he says something about her singing to him, calling to him....
🎉
@@cokemachine62590the shooting stars going into the Galaxy in the sky
The person on the other side of the tunnel had a Yorkshire terrier ,so it cannot be her.
I didn't feel like the movie was saying that all men are the same, I felt like it was saying 'to her' all men are the same. Her trauma mixed with litetal experiences has shaped what she is seeing.
I would definitely agree with your point, however when this is the only point of view we get the entire movie, it is hard to not help but feel like the message is “all men suck”
@@patarends813 Yeah, I definitely get that. Nuance is very tough when through the eyes of a damaged and scared person sometimes.. nature of the beast I suppose
@@alexroy5854 That’s true, and to be honest I just watched this a few days ago and new ways to interpret the movie keep popping up in my head. A lot of them don’t go anywhere still, but at least it keeps you thinking
but most men are the same.. her personal view isn’t necessarily wrong. every. single. woman. has experiences with constant terrible men.
I'm noticing that Rory Kinnear has a habit of being cast as men with a bit of an obsessive streak and who are complete creeps around women (just look at him being Caliban and Lucifer/Dracula in Penny Dreadful. )
Yes, because he does it so well. Maybe an unfortunate typecast, but he's good at it at least xD
I thought he was Frankenstein's monster
@@wynngwynn The monster was given the name Caliban in the show. His " brother" is Proteus, and "sister" is Lily.
@@wynngwynn he was and his name was Caliban
@@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf Technically Lily was his sister and was groomed to be his wife until she slept with Victor.
The green man also symbolizes nature. I have a little different take on this movie: I think Alex Garland might be telling us that the natural state of humanity is one where the male gender of the species naturally enacts violence on the female gender- physically, psychologically, emotionally. The movie offers no redemption for this. It’s quite dark.
I think that after James threw himself to his death, Alex panicked and put his body into the back of her car.....booked an Airbnb and riddled with guilt, dragged his dead body into the house (which we see at the very end).
Everything in between is in the Very mixed up head of Alex, who is trying to come to terms with what's happened, and what she has since done with the dead body or her husband.
Now this is an explanation I can get behind
Why is her friend pregnant though
Except her friend (presumably real) is aware of his death, no? In such case, it wouldn't quite add up
If her friend isn't real or is but isn't aware of his death & just thinks they're separated then by all means, cool take!
I can definitely see this working. Like the drag marks and the blood was from the fact she had to drag the body into the house. Also why she's covered in blood.
There was also another moment in the movie which may hint at this - when she's running out of the house and getting in the car, they flash back to her getting ready to exit the door and she's moving differently, and does things in a different order. It indicates she might be creating parts of the narrarive as she's going along.
She probably tried to get away in the car because she was overwhelmed with guilt or grief. But she returned and that's when she herself crashed the car before finally processing her trauma.
It looks like he fell to his death in an urban area and his body was right on the sidewalk in broad daylight, don’t think she could’ve pulled that off. Cool idea though!
I loved this movie I saw it as the creature trying to get her attention and to love her in the same messed up way her husband did and it’s last-ditch effort was to become her husband and that didn’t work
Not......have I saw it nor do I think that's how it was intended to be interpreted but I still love the movie all the same.
This! And she might have unwittingly summoned it while singing in the woods.
Nice one! Also thought about the creature being similiar to Adam (naked, in the garden etc.) of the Garden Eve and thus is the Forefather of all men, hence the rebirth.
@Maynards so blue Exactly. I really enjoyed the first 2 thirds when I still believed it might make sense out of everything but in the end it turned out to just be a big shaggy dog story that was ironically sexist to both men (in depicting all men as the same and apparently irredeemable... tell that to the LGBTQ+ community) and women (in she was nothing but a hopeless terrified victim running away until she gave in). I mean, would it really have been so hard to dream up a way to give a win or fail because of her own flaws?? I think Garland just got high and wrote a bunch of nonsense down and no one dared question him because to do so could have been misinterpreted as restricting #MeToo movement, when the irony is it was actually exploiting it
@@laiatezenas3300 and bitimg the apple
And when you tell somebody you're not getting this movie, they'll tell you. You just don't understand modern art. As if they knew what the hell they just watched.
@Seanus Patricus So basically a film feminists and angry lesbians would like.
@@themanofshadows i guarantee you, nobody liked this movie lmao
@@sadexcuseforlife3860 Agreed.
@@themanofshadows Sir you're a feminist if you believe anything from women should be required to pay child support of they lose custody of their kids
@Seanus Patricus Thought you were going somewhere with that criticism, then you defaulted to angry chud anti-intellectual who makes being anti-feminist and triggered snowflake their personality trait.
The end of this movie was SUCH a slog. The repeated rebirth of every male in the movie just drags on and on we fucking get it man.
After the second birth, I couldn’t hold my laughter in at the theater anymore because WTF??!!! 😂
I agree it got boring lol killed the shock factor fast
"A storm roll in, she takes shelter under a tree... " Around here this is called stupid.
Now we need a sequel: WOMEN.
With KIDS tying the trilogy to a fitting conclusion.
The reboot: THEY/THEM
I thought Oceans 8 was WOMEN. 😂
With the remake called “Wamen”
Prequel: boys
I feel like the overall message of this movie is acceptance. At the end when all the incarnations of the men she kept seeing throughout the movie kept coming at her, it was her subconscious's way of trying to force her to accept what happened to her husband.
Yesssss, I have been waiting for u to cover this!!! I saw a few recaps, but I come to u for the real deal- thank u!
Ok, here we go:
What abusers do to partners is just as horrible as what strangers do. But the relationship can make defending oneself much harder to justify.
In the city: he jumped and did all these terrible injuries to himself. Even knowing that they needed to separate, she absolutely didn't want that to happen to him. She cared about him. She feels she would not have chosen to cause those injuries. So she feels guilty.
However, in the country: there are "faceless" strangers who stalk her, verbally abuse her, creep on her, gaslight her, and make her "live in fear". And when they start to threaten her, molest her, harm her -she defends herself. Causing each injury.
Perhaps she has made peace by realizing that in self-defense, to similar abuses, she would totally have inflicted those injuries. And would feel justified.
That's a better ending than what we actually got in this movie.
this makes the most sense to me from all the comments ive read
I thought the same thing! How maybe she is learning to get out of the cycle of abuse and react in some way!
bro i got a question, how many hours/ days does it take for you to do an ending explained video? do you watch the movie multiple times? just curious coz its so detailed that there are scenes that i couldnt even comprehend when i watch the movie . and it came to the point where i watch your video first to see if it is worth it before watching the movie
I don't know what he does on average but I remember he once said he watched the movie at least twice, while pausing in between to take notes. Constantly pausing to take notes and make observations would probably take a whole afternoon. Narrowing it down into a short script and then filming and editing; probably takes a few days to do each movie review.
@@LoveYouLove1986 doesn’t he usually live stream when he edits too? I swear ive seen it before and the streams go on for several hours usually
@@litneyloxan That may be what I'm remembering but it was quite awhile ago. Does he still stream? No idea if he still does that.
Watching a stream would be good.
he gets it wrong with some movies. Like I remember watching his breakdown of the wailing and disagreed with him. I think the comments called it out as well.
I knew her face looks familiar, she's the one that play as Kate from the new Dark Pictures Game : The Devil In me !
THANK YOU! I subconsciously knew I recognized her but I had no idea why!
Everyday I had been waiting patiently. Preventing myself from seeing this movie, HOPING FoundFlix would do a video on it. And now, it has come true. SO glad you decided to do this one I've been itching to see you do an explanation on it since it came out. Another banger💜💪🏾
Why would you wait to see it until _after_ you heard his rundown and personal interpretation of the film? That seems so backwards
@@beckyblueish because the only way I could see this movie was if I paid an absurd subscription for a platform i wouldn't even use afterwards. Plus even if I considered paying it, there were SO many mixed reviews I thought I'd just wait until someone I respected reviewed it.
@@kbig2377 you could just watch it on a pirating website :PP, but i get the second reason lol.
@@kbig2377 it mostly had mixed reviews because a lot of men took a surface level offense to it lol. (seriously, the trailer comments alone were enlightening)
@@wynngwynn I don't know about surface level but ok. I wonder would u have the same attitude if there was a movie called "women" and it portrayed every women in the film as a horrible person
Note that the men with the split arm. It's matches the spike from the fence going through James' arm from when he jumped
Broken ankle too
All of the injuries resemble the injuries on her husband's body
I would like to recommend "What Josiah Saw" playing on Shudder. Guaranteed to pull you in every direction. A cast of unlikable characters doing horrible, despicable things yet, like a car wreck, you can't turn away. I loved it, but damm I don't know why. Excellent review of "Men"!
Ever watch A Serbian film? if ya like messed up stuff, I defy you to say you enjoyed that sad excuse for a piece of cinema in any way shape or form.
Same premise you outlined, loads of totally unlikeable people, doing horrific shit.
I still finished it, but I blame that on working in the middle of nowhere, with nothing else to watch.
@@suicidebylifestyle9267 weird movie bro, I wouldn’t go around recommending it lmao
@@suicidebylifestyle9267 I love your username and I think as I e aged A Serbian Film is less awesome when I think on it.
@@suicidebylifestyle9267 a heartwarming story with a great ending
@@suicidebylifestyle9267 It fits a great niche as a super shocking movie for teens to have fun with and be edgelords. I know I did back in the day. See also: Centipede, Human.
Somewhere out there this is a man's favorite movie, so whenever somebody asks what's his favorite film. He says:
“Oh, I love Men!”
I truly enjoy watching Men!
😂
Jesus Christ Hahahaha
Hes ghey
Oh, he's gay too?
i cant even fathom feeling ANY shred of guilt or concern after somebody hit me in the face and then killed themselves ... like boy you want me to feel bad cuz you cant get it together?? LMAO I woulda been laughing his whole way to the ground.
Amen to that! I would not feel a tiny bit sorry for that guy.
Humans and emotions are complicated..
Guilt isn't something you choose to feel.. even if you arnt guilty or responsible you can still feel guilty
You can love someone even if that person is abusive.. if they kill themselves it's natural to deal with feelings of guilt
@@richardsutherland1645 ummmm no lmao sorry can’t relate to that ridiculous notion 🤣🤣
@@sharayajeter Ma’am you’re different, if you truly loved that person. You would feel some type of way if he/she took there own life.
Whenever I hear this movie mentioned, the theme to "Two and a Half Men" starts playing in my head.
@Someones Surlyuncle same!! 💀
Now I'm hoping someone makes a video with this song in the background 😆😆😆.
💀💀💀💀💀
Current movie titles be like:
"SHOE! Rated R!"
That part where the shoe gets his tongue ripped out? Sole crushing.
@@typhonviserys8288 shoe had such an innocent sole too! Im so glad the angel came down to heel him.
You'd think after the first sighting of a yellow naked man at your vakay spot you'd want to change locales
the most beautiful irony that y’all victim blame.. STILL💀
My only problem with this movie was that if you are not familiar with the background stories of the Green Man and the Sheela na gig, it is hard to understang the story. But when you get it, its a nicely crafted alegory of misogyny and how it goes from one generation to another, or how poorly men treated women over the ages. As I see it, the rebirth of the Green Man gets more violent because he/it tries to manipulate Harper, but since she is not affraid of him anymore, his ultimate form is his ex, who manipulated her over the years and made her feel small.
Women were never treated poorly as a whole ever in history because if that was the case they would be few and far between that exist today
If men truly oppressed females it wouldn't be hard too do. By nature men protect females. You take less than 1%of men and group all. But majority of females will use and abuse men no one bats an eye
@@ghettosex123 🤣
finally, been waiting for you to cover this
Is no one gonna mention that of ALL the actors and actresses in the world, they chose two that look a lot alike! In fact, I thought that they narrowed his eyes to look more like hers because if you see him on other things, his eyes are wider. I think she kinda sees herself in these men.
what? do you harper & james or the towns men
Lol man and woman. Such cavemen terms. I'm a trans biopic lobster myself.
You literally mentioned it. Why the heck does it matter if anyone else does? Why can you not just do so without claiming no one else is? These type of comments are just 😬.
@@dont-touch-mepg1392 lol my man/women
@@dont-touch-mepg1392 thank you
This movie is the literal definition of agony.
specialy if you watch the full movie and pay money for it...
@@Nekr0n35 😂
@@Nekr0n35 sometimes that’s the point of art, for you to feel something.. doesn’t mean it has to be pleasant.. I think this movie got its point across perfectly..
@@VisceralCarbon art attack!
@@VisceralCarbon even if you feel like your time was wasted?
I saw this instead of morbius in theaters. I would've had more fun with morbius.
“don’t judge a book by its cover”
I’m judging it by it’s cover
I hate the “all men are the same” I like to think I’m a really unique piece of shit
You are my unique piece of shit ❤️
His movies are well shot, but so fucking preachy in a "lives in his own bubble" kind of way. Good director, embarrassing writer.
i am so done with these people making films just to preach misandrist stuff. Seriously, who gives them the money to stay afloat flop after flop ??
He wrote three books (The Beach, The Tesseract, and The Coma), two of which were made into movies. He wrote the screenplay for 28 Days Later, Never Let Me Go, Dredd, Annihilation, Sunshine, and Ex Machina. These have all been very different from one another. Calling him an embarrassing writer is embarrassing
God damn that writer is fucking stacked and you just shat on all of their word because the movie "shits on all men"?
At least, I assume that's what you meant when you're saying it lives in a bubble. When the movie probably knows more about life experiences of abuse than you do and don't know what you're actually talking about.
When it comes to abstract art like this, it's really easy to just say "It didn't makes sense, bad writing, I didn't get it.". This probably isn't the writers best work, but god damn knowing what this writer has done makes this comment look kind of, not correct.
@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 Well yeah, excuse me but when a movie ends up shitting on an entire half of the world population and belittles the other half, i will indeed shit on your entire work regardless of your background. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. I know that this movie makes sense, it's just that the sense it makes is garbage.
@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 I was thinking specifically of Annihilation, Ex Machina, and Sunshine when I wrote that. They all have this trend of being self-presuming that they're this deep philosophical work, but come off as hollow and not very well considered. They hit like drug-addled tangents from an amphetamine addict. These are nowhere near the level of something like Arrival, and are more in line with The Cloverfield Paradox.
Dredd is probably his best work as a writer because he isn't trying to be '14 and deep', but enough of his thoughts come through which round out the film and elevate it well above the average action movie.
This one hit real close to home and I'm so glad that I finally saw Men. Having gone through exactly what Harper did and the ensuing guilt that literally eats away at you and darkens your entire world, I think the Director and especially the cast did an excellent job personifying grief (specifically with suicide) and I loved how each of these men were a different archetype of the men that women have to deal with in their lives. It was both so specific with Harper's situation and broad in the larger sense of how women navigate the world. The sound design was incredible. All of the performances were excellent. It was definitely pearl-clutching at several moments throughout the film but I absolutely loved it.
men can can have babies.
Cringe
@@berserker5551what's cringe about her party post
@@happyguy2k all of it
How women navigate the world 😂😂
Living life on easy mode with zero accountability or personal responsibility and zero logic?
For the most part women don’t grow up, they just become coddled adult children and still whine they have it hard.
Out of one side of their mouths they are strong independent women.. our the other side they cry about non issues like “cat calling” and believe in energy crystals and star signs
Feminism isn’t needed anymore. Women have more rights than men now and more protection under the law. Less complaining and more compassion and respect for the men in your lives
I watched this film at the cinema and didn't even know that all the men were played by the same actor 😭😭🙃
SAME! 😂😂😭 I didn't realize until I watch a review and was so confused how I missed it. lol
I mean, how couldn’t you tell?
Same and I feel so stupid now😭
@@carmelocamenzuli1932 Something similar to this was how I discovered I have mild face blindness lol. These other commenters might have it but I shouldn't armchair diagnose!
I watched this last night for the first time and I loved it. Was waiting for you to make a video about it :)
This movie was utter garbage
I'm not sure I really like the format of "explaining" a movie by literally narrating every single scene in the movie.
He explains while he recaps
@@kimberlyjeanne9456 The reason for all the recapping is to make the video even longer. It's a tactic purely to game the TH-cam algorithm and monetization formula. From the value created for an "ending explained" video, recapping *literally* the ENTIRE movie is purely unnecessary. Most people visiting this video *just* watched the movie. He literally recaps the ENTIRE movie hence why his videos are all 30 minutes long. He does add some of his own personal commentary and analysis, but it's sparse in comparison. Just my personal feedback from having seen two of his videos now and knowing to avoid them going forward.
thank you mr. flix! you’re the best!
(if you enjoyed mr. flix’s thoughts on theme here, i highly recommend the dead meat podcast episode on this movie!)
Honestly, this felt more like "Men, 3x speed" than an actual explanation of much of the movie.
Exactly, he literally just explained the movie 27 minutes for no reason and didn’t even actually explain the meaning of the ending. Movie Files did a much better job at explaining this movies ending.
To be honest I like the mood of this movie, the vibe of it. It's somewhat creepy if you have the right atmosphere for it and it's crazy in the interesting way.
agreed
Y’all someone wrote this comments and makes so much sense now. Understanding it like this made it go from a horrible movie to a genius one for me lol. (I updated with the other comments that explain more)
Adora Mae
3 days ago
The only meaning I could pull from that is the traditional idea of the duality of the feminine and the masculine. This idea that men and women need to be the yin to each other's yang, and Harper refusing to perpetuate this cycle by not forgiving James or being calm and understanding when he got violent. He needed her to be complacent and enabling and if she wasn't he would try to force her to be the same way the other men in the movie tried to impress their ideas of women on her (Damsels in Distress with Geoffrey, Caretaker/Playmate to the kid, Sexual Being to the Vicar)
Ana's Domain
18 hours ago
@Adora Mae dude the way you explained this. I really did not get it at all until I read this now it makes sense. Would you say the end symbolizes her destroying all of the ideals they place in women? Cuz then she is smiling presumably having killed the ex and then her pregnant friend comes. Maybe it represents the new generation of women being free of these ideals of misogyny
Adora Mae
18 hours ago (edited)
@Ana's Domain The ending, to me especially with the rebirth scene, represents Harper (and other traumatized women) freeing themselves from the cycle. She watches this amalgamation of men struggle, desperately reaching out for her, but while she is horrified she is also visibly exhausted and apathetic. She had a choice to try to help this obviously struggling creature but she risks getting hurt, and in the end that's not her responsibility. Just like it wasn't her fault that James died and it wasn't her responsibility to stick around to keep him alive at the expense of her own wellbeing. I think the end of the movie represents a new birth for Harper and the next generation of women (Riley's baby) to be free of the cycle.
So she has a bad experience and then any and every man also treat her badly and then a woman comes and saves her in the end. Wow great movie.
@@stanleyelnats you completely did not understand anything lol 😭
@@anasdomain9994 says the person who had to get someone else to explain it to them :D
@@stanleyelnats there’s difference between asking for an explanation and completely missing the mark of said explanation lol
@@stanleyelnats Sweetie, if it’s too difficult to understand, you can go back to Cocomelon. ❤
@FoundFlix Bro your always right on time!!!
A FoundFlix upload right as I’m going to lie down, I love this so much
I love how even in this explained video there are certain things that happen that simply make no sense and can’t be explained
just like women
@@Nekr0n35 ironic
Like what?
@@blueismylove3128 her stopping the car, him driving away and then she decides to look up at the stars. How she just kinda stands there and watches as a man gets rebirthed multiple times. How a dandelion clover makes her fall asleep, keep her calm and complacent and then suddenly stabs the priest guy and then goes back to being calm. How this dude is multiple people at first but then turns out to be one guy who can shape shift.
Isn't that all if not most films tho? Weird and empty criticism. You aren't going to understand every aspect of the movie, especially an artsy one like this. The movie as a whole is pretty straight forward in meaning.
Your opener had me rollin lol
This movie was so eerie, I couldn't even finish it. Everything about it gave me the heebie-jeebies
Your pfp gives me heebie-jeebies
litteraly i watched it with my mom in law lol & going home felt so weird , it’s definitely a movie that makes you feel WEIRD , uncomfortable
Lol the people YouTubing “men explained” looking for dating advice but finding this instead
Jordan Peele’s 2023 movie “Karen” is gonna trigger a lot of people 😂
Didn't that movie already come out? Or one titled Karen? Idk
@@candyqueenify yup, and it was awful lol
He’s so black and in tune with his culture that he grew up in the suburbs, only had white friends his whole life, and married a white woman.
@@chrisvela5462 good news, awful movies fade away the fastest into the void of "we don't care about these movies"
Peele is overrated and his movies are too. Basically white people bad subgenre of horror.
i love every one of these recaps you do! your youtube is the only way i watch any type of scary movies lol
That audible ad saved my stomach from hurling
It's always a good day or night when FoundFlix uploads!
Great Video!
I liked this movie even though the story was kinda hard to follow.
I absolutely LOVED the regurgitation / rebirth scene at the end. My jaw hit the ground at how crazy that unfolded.
you LOVED it ??? mann that scene was hard to watch
@@0ffic1alAarOn I guess your not much of a fan of horror if you didn't somewhat appreciate that scene.
I’m a Cronenberg fan so I also loved it haha I was waiting for something disgusting to happen
@@specificsoup If you can't tell the difference between the utterly surrealist violence of this and Kronenberg, you're a very easy audience member to please. Garland is normally great but can someone tell me how this movie helps??
@@zran3097 I didn’t say I couldn’t tell the difference. I can compare Men to other movies too. While it’s very different it reminded me of old surrealist films and more imagery focused than a lot of modern movies which is why I think a lot of people didn’t really “get it”
My main issue with this movie is that it had good potential. It had the opportunity, as a film written and direct by a man and produced almost completely by men (if I remember the credits correctly) to be a great peice of introspection into the sort of identity crisis men seem to be having these days.
Instead it decided to do sort of a base line look at all these basic facets of misogyny from a female perspective (which really lacked nuance) in an artsy way without providing any real insight or saying anything new.
The only think I really like was how tired Harper was at the end. Not scared, not confused, just exhausted.
Identity crisis? The majority of men ( yes, there are toxic men who do terrible things to women, I get that) don't go around treating women like chattel or second class citizens. A good number in fact probably overcompensate with the unthinking chivalry like the good little trained dogs women seem to love. Can't you be happy this film serves to reinforce the current accepted misandry and at least does not pull a bait and switch by ending up blaming women instead? You can still have your more on the nose " men are evil" films from women film makers I'm sure. That well isn't drying up anytime soon.
@@barrycuda4134 the swiftness with which you went from hating this movie to criticizing me for not liking it.
@@barrycuda4134 the irony of you being just as misandrist by arguing that men who choose to treat women with respect are no different from dogs. If you’re so anti-misandry, maybe stop trying to pit men against each other?
@@barrycuda4134
All I’m hearing from you, buster, is the cliched “Not-All-Men” schtick. “Current accepted misandry”, you say? Right after comparing men who respect women to dogs, as pointed out by M V? Tsk.
the colour correction in this film is so insane. love it.
In summary this is like if a female incel made a movie
Femcel.....lol
personally i think the movie is about trauma affecting one's daily life. how it creates a hateful stereotype, and although all you want to do is move on and put the past behind you, you'll always be creating boundaries with everyone until you deal with your demons.
I'm so glad for your videos because especially in this case i could probably not watch it as i'm faceblind and it would mess with me
Just watched this morning and was like WHERE MAH FOUNDFLIX AT?!
This is unironicaly actually “man bad” the movie.
Men bad unless Chad... he can do no wrong
Taxi Driver: unironically just "Networkers Bad"
There Will Be Blood: unironically just "Oil Baron Bad"
Full Metal Jacket: unironically just "War Bad"
Citizen Kane: unironically just "Politics Bad"
Lightyear: unironically just "Lesbians Good"
You see how I can go on and on with this and make every movie just boiled down into two words without needing to explain any of it? It's an awesome review trick I learned from anti-SJW TH-cam channels who don't understand how media criticism works yet still rakes in big bucks from others who don't like thinking.
@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 I understand where your coming from but I think you’ve taken my joke a bit too seriously.
I admire Rory Kinnear hanging dong in the movie. After the third self-birth, my feeling was the same as Harper's: She checked out as much as I did. Also, Jessie Buckley and Rory Kinnear did great performances.
Is there any chance that you can put all of your videos in one playlist and always put your most recent video at the top of that playlist? The reason I ask you this is because sometimes I just wanna watch your videos back to back and the best way to do that is to have your videos on one giant playlist. I understand you do have some playlists now broken down by certain categories and that’s great too but having one master playlist is important for every TH-cam channel like yours. Really hope you can accommodate my request! I’ll be looking for it or reply to this and let me know if you’ve done it if you can. Thanks brother.
Hey Foundflix, could you explain The Innocents. It’s a Norwegian thriller horror about kids with powers. Love your videos :D
I was literally just like what in the hell is happening and what am I watching in the last 20 minutes
What? Men hit women sometimes? Just like that? I already didn't like that "holy man" when he put his hand on her thigh, which you never ever do if you're genuinely trying to help someone, but after he said the hitting thing, then rubbed the bench where she was, that's a wrap, son. No one should hit anyone, especially in relationships during verbal arguments. Men to women. Women to men. Either way, shouldn't swing on one another. Save that stuff for the battlefield as that's where it is necessary. Not the home. Definitely not the home.
I was waiting for you to do an ending explained on this movie
The timing for the sponsor was hilarious
This is very much a man's idea of what the trauma inflicted by men on women is like.
I was thinking that exactly. I dunno why I find these movies weird when they're made by men and about men, but about what they think women's perception of men is. Maybe that's why something always feels off about them. I'm not a fan of these art house horror films anyway, so maybe I'm bias lol
@@LoveYouLove1986 I think a lot of directors get caught up in the "I don't trust men" thing rather than the "I was victimized by this particular man and I can see how his behaviors are reflected in other men" thing. This movie really just showed me how stark the difference between the two can be.
Very this. It had the opportunity, as a film written and direct by a man and produced almost completely by men (if I remember the credits correctly) to be a great peice of introspection into the sort of identity crisis men seem to be having these days.
Instead it decided to do sort of a base line look at all these basic facets of misogyny in an artsy way without providing any real insight or saying anything new
I like to imagine how long and often Rory Kinnear was in the costume and makeup dept. for this movie.
Been eagerly waiting for this since the credits started rolling the night of the premiere lol
I lost my TH-cam channel for years and forgot so many channels that I loved, have a lot of these videos to catch up on :)
This movie is the embodiment of *Mailman*"What the fuck is he talkin' about!?"
Unfortunately the delivery of this movie just comes across like, "Men bad, women good." 🙄 I think I understand what they were going for, it just didn't come across that way for me. Honestly they should have made all the men look like her husband. That would've been an easier way to express how people can carry trauma from past relationships. The men could have actually just been being kind and it's her over reacting because of her past. Would've made more sense, with a good message. Just my take though 🤷🏻♀️
Wow.. that greenery around the 4:45 timestamp region has either been digitally enhanced, or those plants are getting some kind of wonderful feed I've never heard of but need right now for my beautiful little plants. I've got 8 different strains growing at the moment, gosh they're so pretty too. I love gardening 😊
Lol. I've been waiting on you to do this one. What a crazy trip this movie was.
Hey I always wanted to ask would you possibly do a room tour I'm always curious how vast your collection is and what's in your collection.
Finally watched this and…that was quite a trip! Had no idea what to expect, and I really liked it
There just something awfully off vibe to this movie. And I think it’s the weird man tries to write what women think of men? Or something like I am certainly upset that the abuser was a black man equated with all those other “men” who surrounded her in the countryside. There’s just something that’s not clicking with me as a woman it feels like this film is pushing backwards than forwards. I think her choice of not placating her abuser yet at the same time not draw a line when the other men cross her boundaries is conflicting. And the annoying “is it day or is it night outside”
So if he was white it would be fine or?
I'm sorry but the abuser isn't allowed to be black?
Just portraying white straight males as the bad guys is OK right?
Guess what?
FBI statics show that black males have a much higher rate of domestic violence than White Men, even though black people only make up %14 of the population here.
Cry about the facts.
Im mostly stuck on who all the people are. Did they all exist(she is just seeing the same face) and at the ending create an entity that attacked her or did none of them exist. Also did she kill something at the end since there was a lot of blood. Her friend showed up at the end so the place did exist but who replied to the text weirdly.
Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed. It’s hard to tell if this director was trying to be as edgy and out there as possible. But considering how rare on-screen portrayals of Black men/white women relationships are. And how much of an age-old trope to have the Black man be this violent abuser, there’s no way they didn’t know what they were doing. Regardless, this movie was shit. No, having apples fall from a tree, or a statue sit in a living room isn’t deep or artsy, it’s still shit and why you shouldn’t film while being high as a kite
@@hadeskratos3430 I think they were going for the "when a woman says she was traumatized, believe her" angle, but it fell *extremely* flat in this context. They can't do both symbolic and reality at the same time in the same space.
I’m so glad I didn’t go see this movie it would have driven me insane… thank you for allowing me to enjoy it without having to suffer through this main character’s story for 2hrs. As someone who’s had a dude hold suic*de over my head if I left - I definitely could not have made it through this film. Thanks!
why do i have to listen to this guy recite the entire movie instead of just explain the confusing parts of the movie and explain the overarching themes.....
Will you be covering "Smile" after it's been out for a bit? Looks creepy but there's been too many ads for me to take it seriously
I blindly brought my siblings who are new to horror/scary films and it was such a bad idea. Loved the tunnel song tho!!
All these major red flags, and she still refuses to leave the house? Like get the hell out jeeezzzz
thank you! finally addressed!