And interesting thing about the mongol conquests was the despite their brutality being known, most people still chose to fight. Victory or death never surrender.
@@Carpatouille Surrender of on the battlefield was not an option, but when the mongols sent a messanger asking you to submit or die you could surrender pay your taxes and no war would take place.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I know it was an option for the Huns but I don't know if it was possible with the mongols under Genghis Khan seeing how they wanted to conquer the world
Hm, heroes cannot be trained though... does that count as 0 resources? Or as infinite because a hero can never be replaced? Or do we have to look at his stats to try and figure out how much he is worth in cav archer equivalents? Gosh, you are correct, we do need a SotL video :D
If we're going to proceed in spirit of law style, we must first take the derivative of the hero and find the break-even point for 40 of them in the imperial age.
@@kemosonicfan123lbp Considering that the cross-continental empire that Genghis Khan started proved instrumental in the rapid spread of the Black Plague, that seems rather appropriate.
@@brendanhart517 The Mongol Empire brought political unity and stability to the Silk Road region, making cross-continental trade safer and easier. As a result, when the Black Plague developed somewhere in Central or East Asia, it was easily transmitted along the Silk Road in a relatively short span of time.
Yeah, yeah beating "Into China" is cool and all, but you're telling me the backgrounds for the little tiny building icons were cut from the Windows XP desktop background??!
Yeah I think thats the only bad thing from the Definitive Edition. The art style is not bad but the cutscenes are very lame in my opinion. I miss that Joan the Arc watching France after her death in the final mission and Genghis Khan darkest figure in the intro of the campaign.
Jin: "What do a people who sleep in tents know of the word 'culture" Big talk for people who only a few decades or so before this time slept in tents and invaded from the north to topple the Song Dynasty. XD
They were actually asking this question not to be derisive, but rather to be introspective and humble about their own self-growth. Just as we had sought to conquer them with pacifism, they had sought to enlighten us with self-reflection!
Geographically the editors effectively placed the Tangut / Hsi Hsia as the Jin, the Songs as Hsi Hsia (or Dali), while the Jin was actually the Song because of the river. The Jin also conquered the Song almost a century before being treated similarly by the Mongols
@@patrickovsiu No, the geography of the map is largely correct. The Great Wall runs east-west, so the thick river you cross to attack the Jin is actually the north-south stretch of the Yellow River, which turns eastward when it intersects with the Wei River, represented by the thin river separating the Song from the Hsi Hsia and the Tanguts. This puts the Jin to the east in the Shanxi/Hebei area, the Hsi Hsia to the west in northern Shaanxi, the Tanguts to the west in the Ningxia area, and the Song to the south in southern Shaanxi. EDIT: The Jin didn't conquer the Song, just the northern half in 1125. The Song Dynasty continued on for another 152 years, lasting until Kublai Khan's final victory in 1279. The Jin Dynasty fell to Ogedei Khan's forces in 1234.
@@ScottyShaw Still that means the Yangtze was omitted which was a significant inaccuracy. On a side note, the Yuan believed itself taking the Mandate of Heaven from Jin instead of Song. Many also see the Song between 1127 and 1234 a vassal of Jin. So it could be argued that the Jin conquered the Song, just that it did not annihilate the state like the Yuan did.
I think the main reason you gained so many subscribers, including me, might be fact as to the quality of your videos are really high quality, I think we just really appreciate all the effort you put in
I started watching you when you began your pacifist runs but I never noticed that you had only 5K subs. I assumed by the quality of the content that you were on par with SotL and other aoe2 channels. I have subscribed now. You deserve so much more than this. I will be watching your career with great interest. *wink* *wink*
Another excellent episode, can't wait for the expansion campaigns - these videos are absolutely brilliant and I hope your channel continues to grow, T-West
This channel is criminally underrated. I wish we could have a collab of you and Spirit of the Law. Not only would it undoubtedly be a great video but it would also grow your fanbase.
paintstakingly avoids any bloodshed in the mission - executes enemies by pouring molten metal down their throats in the cutscene. This Genghis Khan character is really written quite inconsitantly!
Whilst much of the voice acting is for the worse, I didn't realise just how much effort they put into updating the old campaigns with new units/civilisations/map improvements
This was absolutely beautiful. Best trolly problem ever. Although as the initial goal is speedrun and kill kushluk, I would argue killing the 5 Cav Archers would be the track switch, and since he dies anyway I think speedrun is optimal.
Awesome series! It's really joy to watch. The editing, narrating is so well put together. I love how you add background info about the game and its mechanics. I am really looking forward to future episodes!
Once again amazed by these. This man talks about how long the "Into China" Scenario takes and 3+ hours is the minimum for me in most scenarios as I have bad micro and unit comps and tend to just grind out scenarios with long trash wars
Wow I assumed you had 100k+ subs from the level of your content. Seeing in at the end of this video that this was certainly not the case, you just got another sub! I really like this pacifist gameplay, it requires some in depth knowledge of the scenario's to pull this off. Also fun commentary, "the riches of the eastern regions' gold and stone mines beckon to us". It really adds some flavour. And I would say 1 kill is better than 5 kills, regardless of hero status, as 4 less kills is more pacifistic. Keep up the good work!
Killing just 1 (or 5?) persons and the whole world conquered? One must say the world has become a better place! Thanks T-West for his tireless effort on world peace!
In the original cd version (idk about newer) you could take your assassins and run them behind the king and just kill the wonder and elephants 1 at a time and kill the castles to win without ever killing the fatty and sometimes theyd never even switch you to enemy if you manually attack with your units without ever setting enemy or attacking the king.
I am very glad youtube decided to recommend the Joan of Arc pacifist run to me, cause I love the premise here. Despite owning the original AoK and AoC on disks a decade+ ago, I only ever beat the AoK on DE, but even then, you make it look easy to do a purposely hard challenge. Hats off to you, looking forward to Montezuma especially.
This is a really cool idea, and alot more entertaining than the uprising of "No dmg" or RTS "no unit losses" runs. There seems to be a great deal of research that goes into this to find clever solutions to your pacifisitic ways haha
Another impressive run! I wonder why the AI scripts for Jin has gunpowder and never got fixed though... However, I think in the newer expansions where they added a lot more "army only" or "no eco missions", it is going to be impossible... Some mission are even without monks. When strict pacifist is not possible, trying to kill as less as possible is still very fun to watch as you cleverly solve the puzzle:D
Love your content!❤ I am glad to have found your channel! Your boar video which T90 shared brought me to your channel for the first time. Thank God that happened. Age is pure nostalgia, and I am loving your pacifist run series. Keep up the awesome work. As an Indian, I hope you will do the Prithviraj campaign too someday! I know that might be quite some time from now, if at all. But that's not a problem. I am here!😉
Definitely my favourite of the original campaigns. Well done! So Montezuma next perhaps? I think it actually might be one of the easier ones since I'm pretty sure you can get monks in every mission and the Aztec monks get bonus HP as well.
You know as a kid, I remember doing the Joan of Arc campaign and during the second mission, having a monk convert Joan and having to train a monk of my own to convert her back. Everything I looked into said this wasn't possible, but it was before AoC came out. This did infact happen!
"We send some villagers to Fatslob up this passageway."
nice
I'm not about morality, I am just a pacifist.
> Sinks a ship because the enemies on board must die
It's not his fault if they can't swim
@@ruthswann88 yeah, he even considerate enough to sunk the ships near the shore
the biggest genocide of the feudal age: 5 casualities
😅😅
Only one.
This guy is a legend. Not only did he do these missions without killing anybody, he did this in hard difficulty as well.
Partha Eryans you should check out the Barbarossa campaign as well. It is very impressive.
@@generalhyde007 I did those were impressive. He's acting like the into China mission was easy for him but only a few can go through those grinds.
Except he did kill people. Kushluk or the 5 horsemen.
Wouldn't watch if it was not hard difficulty - that's part of the challenge!
@@torinjones3221 But what if we consider Kushluk a nobody?
Hungarians: We have destroyed the bridge.
Mongol Pacifists: Congratulations, you've played yourselves.
The most bloodthirsty brutal conquer in history
As a pacifist checks out
Pouring molten silver into their eyes and throats ... pacifist-style.
And interesting thing about the mongol conquests was the despite their brutality being known, most people still chose to fight. Victory or death never surrender.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Surrender probably meant death regardless, so maybe there wasn't much of a choice anyway.
@@Carpatouille Surrender of on the battlefield was not an option, but when the mongols sent a messanger asking you to submit or die you could surrender pay your taxes and no war would take place.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I know it was an option for the Huns but I don't know if it was possible with the mongols under Genghis Khan seeing how they wanted to conquer the world
"lets conquer the world with pasifism" said definitely not genghis khan.
- ghandi khan
The pen is stronger than the sword
@@catrielmarignaclionti4518 nuke ghandi?
@@bosbanon3452 like in civ 6 where once ghandhi researchs nukes, he declares you his enemy
@@Onyx_crowmen But a nuke is stronger than a pen
We need Spirit of the law to calculate the ressources trade between a Kushluk and 5 cav archers now
Hm, heroes cannot be trained though... does that count as 0 resources? Or as infinite because a hero can never be replaced? Or do we have to look at his stats to try and figure out how much he is worth in cav archer equivalents? Gosh, you are correct, we do need a SotL video :D
If we're going to proceed in spirit of law style, we must first take the derivative of the hero and find the break-even point for 40 of them in the imperial age.
Should have just used I r winner. 7 year old me was a beast pacifist
*B l a c k D e a t h*
@@kemosonicfan123lbp Considering that the cross-continental empire that Genghis Khan started proved instrumental in the rapid spread of the Black Plague, that seems rather appropriate.
Where i used black death as a youngling sooo
Micah Bush really? How does that work?
@@brendanhart517 The Mongol Empire brought political unity and stability to the Silk Road region, making cross-continental trade safer and easier. As a result, when the Black Plague developed somewhere in Central or East Asia, it was easily transmitted along the Silk Road in a relatively short span of time.
23:15 that trebuchet almost ruined it !
7 Keen observation! 11
Ohh the ram's splash damage. Wow nice observation
Yeah, yeah beating "Into China" is cool and all, but you're telling me the backgrounds for the little tiny building icons were cut from the Windows XP desktop background??!
What better way to recycle "obsolete" assets?
Oh, the mongols, known for have never killed nobody.
I can't tell if it's funny because it's true, or funny because it's not true.
bro I really miss the old cutscenes of this campaign
-rest in peace Rick May
Yeah I think thats the only bad thing from the Definitive Edition. The art style is not bad but the cutscenes are very lame in my opinion.
I miss that Joan the Arc watching France after her death in the final mission and Genghis Khan darkest figure in the intro of the campaign.
9:42
The Fatslob reference is a win in my heart.
Jin: "What do a people who sleep in tents know of the word 'culture"
Big talk for people who only a few decades or so before this time slept in tents and invaded from the north to topple the Song Dynasty. XD
They were actually asking this question not to be derisive, but rather to be introspective and humble about their own self-growth. Just as we had sought to conquer them with pacifism, they had sought to enlighten us with self-reflection!
@@ScottyShaw Must be it.
Geographically the editors effectively placed the Tangut / Hsi Hsia as the Jin, the Songs as Hsi Hsia (or Dali), while the Jin was actually the Song because of the river.
The Jin also conquered the Song almost a century before being treated similarly by the Mongols
@@patrickovsiu No, the geography of the map is largely correct. The Great Wall runs east-west, so the thick river you cross to attack the Jin is actually the north-south stretch of the Yellow River, which turns eastward when it intersects with the Wei River, represented by the thin river separating the Song from the Hsi Hsia and the Tanguts. This puts the Jin to the east in the Shanxi/Hebei area, the Hsi Hsia to the west in northern Shaanxi, the Tanguts to the west in the Ningxia area, and the Song to the south in southern Shaanxi.
EDIT: The Jin didn't conquer the Song, just the northern half in 1125. The Song Dynasty continued on for another 152 years, lasting until Kublai Khan's final victory in 1279. The Jin Dynasty fell to Ogedei Khan's forces in 1234.
@@ScottyShaw Still that means the Yangtze was omitted which was a significant inaccuracy.
On a side note, the Yuan believed itself taking the Mandate of Heaven from Jin instead of Song. Many also see the Song between 1127 and 1234 a vassal of Jin. So it could be argued that the Jin conquered the Song, just that it did not annihilate the state like the Yuan did.
The throat singing is a nice touch.
The "civilization themes" from DE are really useful :)
OHHHHHHHHHH MAAAAAAAAAA YEEEEEEEEEEEEE MAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AI: Blows up the bridge.
T-West: "I'm not trapped in here with you, *you'r* the one trapped in here with me!"
Seriously, I didn't know that the background of building icons were from the Windows XP Background...
I think the main reason you gained so many subscribers, including me, might be fact as to the quality of your videos are really high quality, I think we just really appreciate all the effort you put in
The champions are disguised as the drivers! 😂
T-West you are officially the first TH-camr ever to like my comment ... thank you for everything ❤️
The most amazing part of this is the background of the DE for the buildings
20:14 that poor light cavalry... he must having a lot of presure... we need to convert him and give him a psychology treatment
This man deserves way more subs, he’s the hero we need and don’t deserve
4:04 once again T-West demonstrates his mastery of The High Ground.
Actually I think it is the best I have seen so far, since it happens to be at such a narrow and hard to find place.
Your style of passive peaceful comentery is perfect for such a way of playing.
Man I never thought that such a series was even possible
Definitely one of my most favourite aoe2 video series on TH-cam
I started watching you when you began your pacifist runs but I never noticed that you had only 5K subs. I assumed by the quality of the content that you were on par with SotL and other aoe2 channels. I have subscribed now. You deserve so much more than this. I will be watching your career with great interest. *wink* *wink*
And you should try to watch his custom campaigns walkthroughs, they are amazing as well
Another excellent episode, can't wait for the expansion campaigns - these videos are absolutely brilliant and I hope your channel continues to grow, T-West
The funny thing is that in the "lets kill 5 cav archers" secario u also kill kushluk by suicide him
04:18 The Uighur chief sounds really really pleased.
This channel is criminally underrated. I wish we could have a collab of you and Spirit of the Law. Not only would it undoubtedly be a great video but it would also grow your fanbase.
Your wit and humor makes you my favorite AOE2 channel after discovering you today.
I love the fact that you put the old sounds which are far far better than the definitive version sounds and narratives, dialoges.
This is one of my favorite AoE II series!
Especially since you complete levels without killing anything while I can't even beat them normally x)
That Windows XP icon joke was just way too good! :D
6:57 w-wha... really?! I mean, it makes sense, it's a MS game and that desktop was among their assets, but REALLY?!!
paintstakingly avoids any bloodshed in the mission - executes enemies by pouring molten metal down their throats in the cutscene. This Genghis Khan character is really written quite inconsitantly!
Went through many of your videos after this one. You deserve a lot more subs :)
im quite surprised you dont have more subscribers , these videos are quite entertaining and well made
Your story telling is good. It was fun to watch.
I really like how they added new civs that wernt in the original release into the campaigns where they are relevant
iNthe life of Revnege The wonder gave me a victory
In age of Kings edition, The wonder which we already have,
IT doesn't give at timer but it works
Oh really? I'll have to check that out then.
@@T-West Oh man it would take some hours like the invisible timer was so long
wow. i didnt realize the background was also the building background
I love how the lore for the monk and the lithuanian cav joining you is that they didnt find the way down the mountain for 15 damn years xD
"We send some villagers to fatslob up this passageway"
My fucking hero
This is honestly top tier content
keep it up!
Whilst much of the voice acting is for the worse, I didn't realise just how much effort they put into updating the old campaigns with new units/civilisations/map improvements
17:59 I remember there were Huskal there instead of there cavalry in the age of Kings...
Believe it or not I have Upgraded from age of kings to DE
XP
If they were stuck on that mountain for 15+ years, maybe some horses wandered up there to join them in that time. :)
@@T-West they were stuck on that mountain waiting for definitive edition
@Labyrinth9000 thx
Allowing the enemy to fill their army with units on 'no attack' is very clever. I love these videos.
I admire you as it is just a 24 min video...you have put significant amount of time and swet in your video
It was a beautiful content
I loved it
That trebuchet near the end was a close call with the siege ram attack 😂
I fully expect you to reach a hundred thousand!
Oh yeah, THAT'S where I remember that background from!
I love this, Did not think troley problem appears in medieval combat.
HELL YES, This series is what I live for.
This is such a unique way to approach aoe. you deserve to grow. unique content is rare nowadays.
This was absolutely beautiful. Best trolly problem ever. Although as the initial goal is speedrun and kill kushluk, I would argue killing the 5 Cav Archers would be the track switch, and since he dies anyway I think speedrun is optimal.
I'll never be that good at aoe hahaha amazing editing on the videos man!! Legend!
Would love to see Burma or Inca campaigns. Doesn’t have to be 0 kills, but can be a mathematical minimum kill number.
Building Icons having the Windows XP background blew my mind.
same. you can also see some behind the gate icon. Bliss is a meme.
the genghis khan campaign always stuck with me since i was a kid
Okay.. you deserved this like and every like on this video. Damn that was impressive.
Such a clutch moment with bridge collapse 22:44
Those videos shine a light in my stresfull day. Thank you for making them :)
Dude you rock! You and your content are going to be as big and awesome as the likes of T90 or SpiritoftheLaw :)
Awesome series! It's really joy to watch. The editing, narrating is so well put together. I love how you add background info about the game and its mechanics. I am really looking forward to future episodes!
I love your campaigns!!!! I love AoE commentary, and your efforts are brilliant. But also you are so funny!!!!!!!!!!
6:53 dude i've been playing this game since i was a child, and i never noticed this! this is so good!
made my day :D
Well, that was just added in DE. The original icons didn't use the XP background, as the Age of Kings was released before Windows XP.
19:14 you are guilty of the death of 2 monks.
LoL never played Genghis Khan campaign in 11 years but definitely like this... This guy speak slow but getting a better sound by every video!!
Once again amazed by these. This man talks about how long the "Into China" Scenario takes and 3+ hours is the minimum for me in most scenarios as I have bad micro and unit comps and tend to just grind out scenarios with long trash wars
That trebuchet almost getting destroyed by the siege ram splash damage at the end got me on edge
Is that AOE I music at the end ?
Loved this challenge ! I'll be looking forward for the next ones when you're break is over!
Gray Skies from the Aoe1 DE soundtrack.
@@T-West thanks 😊
such an effort, deserves to be liked and subscribed.
I can't unsee that at 6:50
The icons line up so perfectly whAT
Dude i am living for these videos. Fantastic 🧡
Holy shit, this just gets more awesome in each scenario. What a legend.
Wow only one Kill, nice video once again. I apreciate the effort !
I would take 1 kill over five beacuse, as a stubborn dwarf once said to his elven friend, "It still only counts as one!"
Wow I assumed you had 100k+ subs from the level of your content. Seeing in at the end of this video that this was certainly not the case, you just got another sub!
I really like this pacifist gameplay, it requires some in depth knowledge of the scenario's to pull this off. Also fun commentary, "the riches of the eastern regions' gold and stone mines beckon to us". It really adds some flavour.
And I would say 1 kill is better than 5 kills, regardless of hero status, as 4 less kills is more pacifistic.
Keep up the good work!
I did not know that you could convert heroes in the AOK even though I played on this version for years.
GG, insane work
Gotta love that AOE 1 music at the end
Killing just 1 (or 5?) persons and the whole world conquered? One must say the world has become a better place! Thanks T-West for his tireless effort on world peace!
Amazing videos, i m so happy you are being recognized after such a good and intersting videos :) Thanks for that.
I look forward to these each and every time. They make my week.
I loved how different civilization themes were played!!
In the original cd version (idk about newer) you could take your assassins and run them behind the king and just kill the wonder and elephants 1 at a time and kill the castles to win without ever killing the fatty and sometimes theyd never even switch you to enemy if you manually attack with your units without ever setting enemy or attacking the king.
I am very glad youtube decided to recommend the Joan of Arc pacifist run to me, cause I love the premise here. Despite owning the original AoK and AoC on disks a decade+ ago, I only ever beat the AoK on DE, but even then, you make it look easy to do a purposely hard challenge. Hats off to you, looking forward to Montezuma especially.
This is a really cool idea, and alot more entertaining than the uprising of "No dmg" or RTS "no unit losses" runs. There seems to be a great deal of research that goes into this to find clever solutions to your pacifisitic ways haha
Another impressive run! I wonder why the AI scripts for Jin has gunpowder and never got fixed though... However, I think in the newer expansions where they added a lot more "army only" or "no eco missions", it is going to be impossible... Some mission are even without monks. When strict pacifist is not possible, trying to kill as less as possible is still very fun to watch as you cleverly solve the puzzle:D
God, I love youtubers who heart comments.
06:55 Really? Microsoft you sneaky company.
Grats on the new subscribers! Including me x
That Trebuchet at the end of the video it was like Oof that was close
Thanks for the Heart!!!
Btw, great job on the video! A truly great job on doing this!
Love your content!❤ I am glad to have found your channel! Your boar video which T90 shared brought me to your channel for the first time. Thank God that happened. Age is pure nostalgia, and I am loving your pacifist run series. Keep up the awesome work. As an Indian, I hope you will do the Prithviraj campaign too someday! I know that might be quite some time from now, if at all. But that's not a problem. I am here!😉
I love watching this, the narration makes it really interesting to watch
Definitely my favourite of the original campaigns. Well done! So Montezuma next perhaps? I think it actually might be one of the easier ones since I'm pretty sure you can get monks in every mission and the Aztec monks get bonus HP as well.
You know as a kid, I remember doing the Joan of Arc campaign and during the second mission, having a monk convert Joan and having to train a monk of my own to convert her back. Everything I looked into said this wasn't possible, but it was before AoC came out. This did infact happen!
Good thing you didn't kill her when she was on the enemy side!
Man thanks so much for this series, makes me so happy