Hi Secrets Unsealed, we are following you from Denmark, and this program is really good and practical, thank you for all your efforts. Can you put numbers of the episodes so we know the order, because many times you are having answering questions in 2 episodes. We don't watch them in live so that will help us to know what episode should we watch next for the complete answer. May God bless you and guide you in all your work!
Hello there Elena! Thank you so much for your kind comments! We're glad you've been blessed so far. We post them the day after it airs and it will be posted in consecutive order. For 'I'd Like to Know?' We post new episodes on youtube every Wednesday. If you're not currently subscribed, now is the best time to do so! You can checkout our playlists and schedules and special announcements on our other social media platforms too! Thank you again! God Bless!
Hi Pastor Bohr, I believe the Lord woke me up early this morning to hear this message. I want to call you today at Secrets Unsealed and tell you why. I learned last night at prayer meeting where you will be speaking this upcoming Sabbath. This is why I believe the Lord woke me up to here this question and answer segment. I have been praying for an answer and searching in the Spirit of Prophecy both in The Great Controversy and in the book Last Day Events on this topic. I have heard you clearly speak on this before, and I believe the same. The Lord has convicted me of this. This Q and A was confirmation that I indeed have heard you correctly in the past on this topic. There is definitely some confusion out there among well known present truth speakers in our SDA church on this topic. One of whom I know well, and love and support. Looking forward to speaking to you soon.
what would be the result of believing one versus the other? : to believe that satan personates Christ BEFORE probation closes or to believe that satan personates Christ AFTER probation closes think of the consequences of believing one and the other ends up being true. which one would have terrible ramifications?
Very good question. Jesus always cautioned against eye-servitude and what is it to us whether Satan comes before or after the c.o.p. if we are too busy looking for signposts and find out too late that we should instead have been trying to overcome those seemingly impossible things within us that undo our progress in Christ. From what Jesus said in Matthew 24:23-24, I suspect that Satan will impersonate Jesus both shortly before the close of probation and afterwards - possibly up to the sixth plague.
My opinion: 1.) If we believe Satan personates Christ before probation closes, and wait on this sign (but we are wrong), then it could cause many Christians to wait to "flee" and stay in the cities which are about to be destroyed by God. This could cause some Christians to lose their lives unnecessarily, and perhaps even give up hope in God if they see fellow Christian family/friends being destroyed with the plagues that God said would not touch us. For instance, if the Christians in Jerusalem waited on a different sign to flee from Jerusalem other than the idolatrous Sun-worshipping standards of the Roman legions being planted in the grounds around Jerusalem, then some of them may have waited for a different sign---but ended up being destroyed as the Romans came back to destroy the city. 2.) If we believe Satan personates Christ after probation closes, and instead rely on a different sign (in this case Sunday Law), but we are wrong, then it could cause Christians to flee from the cities prior to the correct time. Then, the Christians may miss out on additional opportunities to be involved in ministering to those around them who may not yet have made their final decisions. Leaving too soon could be dangerous from the standpoint of the fact that there is safety in God leading us, and not ourselves. We could forfeit the protection of angels in the solitary places we run to, thus being more vulnerable to danger. At the end of the day, one thing to me is comforting--the people who have learned to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit alone will know what moves to make during this time. If we remain open to God's leading, even if what we previously thought was wrong, we will not be devastated if events turn out differently than what we had thought before. The key is leaving room for God to change our course, change our beliefs, as He sees fit (and as is consistent with the Bible).
I have to say, just watching pasto Bohr’s sermon about Adam & Eve being the same relationship is God & Jesus creeped me out. I believe that God is both man & woman and that’s how we were created in their image. The relationship between a husband and a wife is very different from a father & son
BUT WHAT “EVENT” WILL MAKE THE “WHOLE WORLD” WILL WONDER AFTER THE FIRST BEAST? YOU FORGOT THE PROPHECY OF REVELATION 13:13-15. SECOND COMING COUNTERFEITING HAPPENS BEFORE THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST WILL BE FORMED. DANIEL 11:40-45 PRECEDES DANIEL 12:1-2. DANIEL 12:1-2 IS THE CLOSE OF PROBATION.
Adventists equate Ellen G Whites visions while awake with Daniel's vision with the arch angel in that they both stopped breathing oxygen!This does not line up with scripture.Daniel fasted three weeks and grieved in his pursuit in communicating with God.Daniel's vision was like Abraham's night vision, Daniel lated down on the ground with the side of his face on the ground, like sleeping.From his three weeks of exertion he was wore out.The angel had to help put him on his feet.Daniel kept saying I have no strength and no breath(no breath means he couldn't talk,plus being in the presence of the angels he was tounge tied he could not put into words his vision.Being out of breath means words,not literally not breathing oxygen.When the breath of life or God leaves the body ,the breath of life goes back to God who gave it as does the soul.If this happens that person dies.The angels helper had to touch Daniel's lips twice to supernaturaly strengthen him,Daniel held his head down, he was so wore out with the whole ordeal he could barley stand.He did not float around like Ellen G White and gaze upward off into the distance and talk and talk!Equating EGW with Daniel to validate her power and athourity is does not stand up to scripture!I do not refute the state of the dead, but it's not soul sleep!
"And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands." Daniel 10:7-10. Daniel's face was "toward the ground;" Scripture does't say "the side of his face on the ground." There are other embellishments in your story that have no basis on Scripture. As for Ellen G. White, she did not breath while in vision. This was confirmed by more than one physician. There were other manifestations of the work of supernatural power while she was in vision. Those manifestations were from the Holy Ghost and it would be best for you not to disrespect them. When you are dead your soul sleeps. You don't understand the various meanings of "soul" and "spirit" in Scripture but then these guys don't understand that either and they're not too interested in learning.
Also theres a difference between Daniel being alone, and EGW standing before crowds of people in a state of vision receiving God personally inside her ,while Daniel who was a man greatly beloved of God , as the Archangel conveyed from God to Daniel.I think it's Adventists that should beware when presuming that God came and directly entered EGW,I would be very, very careful, and like Daniel keep my mouth shut in the presence of almighty God!I believe in EGW , but she has her place, below God ,a prophet is subject to the prophets.Theres major prophets,and minor prophets, and as it were run of the mill prophets.EGW was not of the caliber of Daniel, Deborah,Ezekiel, Elijah.Adventists put on that pedestal!
@@fredsimmons2793 So, "theres a difference between Daniel being alone, and EGW standing before crows of people in a state of vision receiving God personally inside her." I agree there's a difference. What's you point? I presume when you say "God personally inside her" you mean the Holy Ghost. I see no problem with that. You should be very, very careful and keep you mouth shut and not grieve the Holy Ghost. One more thing. In case you're one of those who believe you can ignore what is enjoined in one of the Ten Commandments, it won't matter at all to you if you choose to reject another witness of the Holy Ghost.
@@martinlohne5128 Your very presumptuous Martin and if I am not mistaken that is a sin, which in effect is grieving the Holy Spirit.I suggest we both stick to getting the Three Angels message out to not Adventists, but to people who need to come out of Babylon, and we need to do that in love not presuming they are rotting sinners!
I have respected Stephen Bohr as being the leading teacher of prophecy for many years, but in this study he has gravely overlooked many quotes... ""Satan ... will come personating Jesus Christ, working mighty miracles; and men will fall down and worship him as Jesus Christ. We shall be commanded to worship this being, whom the world will glorify as Christ. What shall we do? Tell them that Christ has warned us against just such a foe, who is man's worst enemy, yet who claims to be God, and that when Christ shall make His appearance it will be with power and great glory, accompanied by ten thousand times ten thousand angels and thousands of thousands, and that when He shall come we shall know His voice.-The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 6:1106 (1888). Satan is striving to gain every advantage.... Disguised as an angel of light, he will walk the earth as a wonder-worker. In beautiful language he will present lofty sentiments; good words will be spoken by him and good deeds performed. Christ will be personified. But on one point there will be a marked distinction-Satan will turn the people from the law of God. Notwithstanding this, so well will he counterfeit righteousness that, if it were possible, he would deceive the very elect. Crowned heads, presidents, rulers in high places, will bow to his false theories.-Fundamentals of Christian Education, 471, 472 (1897). Miracles Will Be Performed The sick will be healed before us. Miracles will be performed in our sight. Are we prepared for the trial which awaits us when the lying wonders of Satan shall be more fully exhibited?-Testimonies For The Church 1:302 (1862). Men under the influence of evil spirits will work miracles. *They will make people sick by casting their spell upon them, and will then remove the spell, leading others to say that those who were sick have been miraculously healed.* **This Satan has done again and again.**-Selected Messages 2:53 (1903). Wonderful scenes, with which Satan will be closely connected, will soon take place. God's Word declares that Satan will work miracles. *He will make people sick, and then will suddenly remove from them his satanic power. They will then be regarded as healed.* 👉These works of apparent healing will bring Seventh-day Adventists to the test.👈-Selected Messages 2:53 (1904). Satan can, through a species of deceptions, perform wonders that will appear to be genuine miracles. It was this he hoped to make a test question with the Israelites at the time of their deliverance from Egypt.-Selected Messages 2:52 (1907). Fire From Heaven We must not trust the claims of men. They may, as Christ represents, profess to work miracles in healing the sick. Is this marvelous, when just behind them stands the great deceiver, the miracle worker who will yet bring down fire from heaven in the sight of men?-Selected Messages 2:49 (1887). It is the lying wonders of the devil that will take the world captive, and he will *cause fire to come down from heaven in the sight of men.* He is to work miracles, and this wonderful, miracle-working power is to sweep in ***the whole world.***-Selected Messages 2:51 (1890). Satan will come in to deceive if possible the very elect. He claims to be Christ, and he is coming in, pretending to be the great medical missionary. *He will cause fire to come down from heaven in the sight of men to prove that he is God.*-Medical Ministry, 87, 88 (1903). It is stated in the Word that the enemy will work through his agents who have departed from the faith, and they will seemingly work miracles, *even to the bringing down of fire out of heaven in the sight of men.*-Selected Messages 2:54 (1907). "He doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do" (Revelation 13:13, 14). No mere impostures are here foretold. Men are deceived by the miracles which Satan's agents have power to do, not which they pretend to do."-The Great Controversy, 553 (1911). Last Day Events, pp. 165.3 - 168.1
To be honest brother this comes across as criticism. Hopefully it’s constructive as the intent but it seems more like chastising. You realize the show has to end on time and is scheduled. If you can show deliberate or mistaken error feel free to do so. We are fallible man and can make mistakes. But to imply pastor Bohr is neglecting to provide this information deliberately is very disingenuous on your part in my opinion.
@@ericb2861 , I am not chastising him. I have learned much from him and have many of his studies in my library. What this interpretation of his will lead to is many Adventists thinking that probation has already closed when they see the personation of Christ. This is the most dangerous thing that could possibly happen, right at the moment when the outpouring of the latter rain is to occur. We must know the truth for ourselves and not be afraid to question our favorite teachers when a huge error that may change the outcome of being sealed and being a part of the 144,000 is at stake. God bless.
@@randyfoon3165 no problem. I fully agree with questioning those who have taught us and knowing it for ourselves. If this is your intend than I am all for it. Pastor Bohr have taught us to go back and study for ourselves All the studies we have been told from him as well as any other minister. He has debunk many beliefs the church have taught us in the past and in his messages he has proven through further study they were interpreted incorrectly by the church. So. yes we should be like the bereans and know for ourself what we believe and study to show ourselves approve. God bless you as well
You touch on a point that Adventist pastors disagree on. I’ve heard it preached different ways: some say Sunday Law will come, probation closes, and then Satan appears. Others say Satan will appear first and then institute Sunday Law and then probation closes. We need to go to the Bible first to see what it says. Pastor Bohr did great series on Matthew 24, proving from the Bible and EGW that Satan appears after the close of probation. I encourage you to watch the series if you have not. In regards to the belief that Satan will come first and then the close of probation, there is no proof from the Bible or EGW quotes that proves this. It has been said that “common sense” or “reason” can make the deduction that Satan has to appear first. But, there is no sound scriptural basis for this that I’ve yet learned (although willing to relearn if I’m wrong). To the contrary, look at Matthew 24-the events in this chapter state that the abomination of desolation will occur first, and then the false Christ will appear (as described later in chapter). Some may argue this is not chronological, but the Greek shows that it is all chronological by the frequent use of the word “Then.”
Furthermore, when you think about it, the danger is not so much in being wrong in the thought that probation closes and then Satan appears, as wrong in the thought that Satan appears and then institutes Sunday Law and then close of probation. Reason is: we are commanded to flee to safer regions as much as possible when Sunday Law happens. If we are wrong in sequence of events and instead wait on Satan to appear, we may have missed the “safer window” to flee. On the contrary, if we think probation has closed when it really has not, it won’t really change the persistence of Gods people in seeking Him. Because we will have learned to rely on Him despite our feelings and keep pressing on in faith.
Hi Secrets Unsealed, we are following you from Denmark, and this program is really good and practical, thank you for all your efforts. Can you put numbers of the episodes so we know the order, because many times you are having answering questions in 2 episodes. We don't watch them in live so that will help us to know what episode should we watch next for the complete answer.
May God bless you and guide you in all your work!
Hello there Elena! Thank you so much for your kind comments! We're glad you've been blessed so far. We post them the day after it airs and it will be posted in consecutive order. For 'I'd Like to Know?' We post new episodes on youtube every Wednesday. If you're not currently subscribed, now is the best time to do so! You can checkout our playlists and schedules and special announcements on our other social media platforms too! Thank you again! God Bless!
Pastor Bohr, keep em coming. We love you and pray for Secrets Unsealed 🙏 Amen!
Hi Pastor Bohr,
I believe the Lord woke me up early this morning to hear this message. I want to call you today at Secrets Unsealed and tell you why. I learned last night at prayer meeting where you will be speaking this upcoming Sabbath. This is why I believe the Lord woke me up to here this question and answer segment. I have been praying for an answer and searching in the Spirit of Prophecy both in The Great Controversy and in the book Last Day Events on this topic. I have heard you clearly speak on this before, and I believe the same. The Lord has convicted me of this. This Q and A was confirmation that I indeed have heard you correctly in the past on this topic. There is definitely some confusion out there among well known present truth speakers in our SDA church on this topic. One of whom I know well, and love and support. Looking forward to speaking to you soon.
Jesus is talking about The siege of jerusalem in AD 70 in Matthew 24:16. It is more parallelism rather than sequential events.
Thank you for this Q & A, this was very good!
Excellent questions and answers.
what would be the result of believing one versus the other? :
to believe that satan personates Christ BEFORE probation closes
or
to believe that satan personates Christ AFTER probation closes
think of the consequences of believing one and the other ends up being true. which one would have terrible ramifications?
Very good question. Jesus always cautioned against eye-servitude and what is it to us whether Satan comes before or after the c.o.p. if we are too busy looking for signposts and find out too late that we should instead have been trying to overcome those seemingly impossible things within us that undo our progress in Christ. From what Jesus said in Matthew 24:23-24, I suspect that Satan will impersonate Jesus both shortly before the close of probation and afterwards - possibly up to the sixth plague.
My opinion:
1.) If we believe Satan personates Christ before probation closes, and wait on this sign (but we are wrong), then it could cause many Christians to wait to "flee" and stay in the cities which are about to be destroyed by God. This could cause some Christians to lose their lives unnecessarily, and perhaps even give up hope in God if they see fellow Christian family/friends being destroyed with the plagues that God said would not touch us.
For instance, if the Christians in Jerusalem waited on a different sign to flee from Jerusalem other than the idolatrous Sun-worshipping standards of the Roman legions being planted in the grounds around Jerusalem, then some of them may have waited for a different sign---but ended up being destroyed as the Romans came back to destroy the city.
2.) If we believe Satan personates Christ after probation closes, and instead rely on a different sign (in this case Sunday Law), but we are wrong, then it could cause Christians to flee from the cities prior to the correct time. Then, the Christians may miss out on additional opportunities to be involved in ministering to those around them who may not yet have made their final decisions. Leaving too soon could be dangerous from the standpoint of the fact that there is safety in God leading us, and not ourselves. We could forfeit the protection of angels in the solitary places we run to, thus being more vulnerable to danger.
At the end of the day, one thing to me is comforting--the people who have learned to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit alone will know what moves to make during this time. If we remain open to God's leading, even if what we previously thought was wrong, we will not be devastated if events turn out differently than what we had thought before. The key is leaving room for God to change our course, change our beliefs, as He sees fit (and as is consistent with the Bible).
Good question
What would be the purpose of personation after probation closes. No consequences on one's salvation. Probation has closed.
I'd love to see your thoughts on the Brother Mario Murillo's testimony when he met Isaac Bonewits.
I have to say, just watching pasto Bohr’s sermon about Adam & Eve being the same relationship is God & Jesus creeped me out. I believe that God is both man & woman and that’s how we were created in their image. The relationship between a husband and a wife is very different from a father & son
God compares mankind's relationship with Him as a bride and groom. The love and honor of a Covenant...marriage.
.Great Video Guys.
Necesito Acer unas preguntas al pastor Esteban borh
Are we to understand that Daniel 11:40-45 laterally happened but is a symbolic depiction of what will happen on a global scale?
BUT WHAT “EVENT” WILL MAKE THE “WHOLE WORLD” WILL WONDER AFTER THE FIRST BEAST? YOU FORGOT THE PROPHECY OF REVELATION 13:13-15. SECOND COMING COUNTERFEITING HAPPENS BEFORE THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST WILL BE FORMED. DANIEL 11:40-45 PRECEDES DANIEL 12:1-2. DANIEL 12:1-2 IS THE CLOSE OF PROBATION.
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Cómo se puede obtener en castellano?
Will the tribulation begin this October?
We are not given a timeline for it because Jesus wants us to be ready always.
Adventists equate Ellen G Whites visions while awake with Daniel's vision with the arch angel in that they both stopped breathing oxygen!This does not line up with scripture.Daniel fasted three weeks and grieved in his pursuit in communicating with God.Daniel's vision was like Abraham's night vision, Daniel lated down on the ground with the side of his face on the ground, like sleeping.From his three weeks of exertion he was wore out.The angel had to help put him on his feet.Daniel kept saying I have no strength and no breath(no breath means he couldn't talk,plus being in the presence of the angels he was tounge tied he could not put into words his vision.Being out of breath means words,not literally not breathing oxygen.When the breath of life or God leaves the body ,the breath of life goes back to God who gave it as does the soul.If this happens that person dies.The angels helper had to touch Daniel's lips twice to supernaturaly strengthen him,Daniel held his head down, he was so wore out with the whole ordeal he could barley stand.He did not float around like Ellen G White and gaze upward off into the distance and talk and talk!Equating EGW with Daniel to validate her power and athourity is does not stand up to scripture!I do not refute the state of the dead, but it's not soul sleep!
"And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands." Daniel 10:7-10.
Daniel's face was "toward the ground;" Scripture does't say "the side of his face on the ground." There are other embellishments in your story that have no basis on Scripture.
As for Ellen G. White, she did not breath while in vision. This was confirmed by more than one physician. There were other manifestations of the work of supernatural power while she was in vision. Those manifestations were from the Holy Ghost and it would be best for you not to disrespect them.
When you are dead your soul sleeps. You don't understand the various meanings of "soul" and "spirit" in Scripture but then these guys don't understand that either and they're not too interested in learning.
Also theres a difference between Daniel being alone, and EGW standing before crowds of people in a state of vision receiving God personally inside her ,while Daniel who was a man greatly beloved of God , as the Archangel conveyed from God to Daniel.I think it's Adventists that should beware when presuming that God came and directly entered EGW,I would be very, very careful, and like Daniel keep my mouth shut in the presence of almighty God!I believe in EGW , but she has her place, below God ,a prophet is subject to the prophets.Theres major prophets,and minor prophets, and as it were run of the mill prophets.EGW was not of the caliber of Daniel, Deborah,Ezekiel, Elijah.Adventists put on that pedestal!
@@fredsimmons2793 So, "theres a difference between Daniel being alone, and EGW standing before crows of people in a state of vision receiving God personally inside her." I agree there's a difference. What's you point?
I presume when you say "God personally inside her" you mean the Holy Ghost. I see no problem with that.
You should be very, very careful and keep you mouth shut and not grieve the Holy Ghost.
One more thing. In case you're one of those who believe you can ignore what is enjoined in one of the Ten Commandments, it won't matter at all to you if you choose to reject another witness of the Holy Ghost.
@@martinlohne5128 Your very presumptuous Martin and if I am not mistaken that is a sin, which in effect is grieving the Holy Spirit.I suggest we both stick to getting the Three Angels message out to not Adventists, but to people who need to come out of Babylon, and we need to do that in love not presuming they are rotting sinners!
@@fredsimmons2793 You will have a very hard time getting the three angels messages out whilst rejecting the Spirit of Prophecy.
I have respected Stephen Bohr as being the leading teacher of prophecy for many years, but in this study he has gravely overlooked many quotes...
""Satan ... will come personating Jesus Christ, working mighty miracles; and men will fall down and worship him as Jesus Christ. We shall be commanded to worship this being, whom the world will glorify as Christ. What shall we do? Tell them that Christ has warned us against just such a foe, who is man's worst enemy, yet who claims to be God, and that when Christ shall make His appearance it will be with power and great glory, accompanied by ten thousand times ten thousand angels and thousands of thousands, and that when He shall come we shall know His voice.-The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 6:1106 (1888).
Satan is striving to gain every advantage.... Disguised as an angel of light, he will walk the earth as a wonder-worker. In beautiful language he will present lofty sentiments; good words will be spoken by him and good deeds performed. Christ will be personified. But on one point there will be a marked distinction-Satan will turn the people from the law of God. Notwithstanding this, so well will he counterfeit righteousness that, if it were possible, he would deceive the very elect. Crowned heads, presidents, rulers in high places, will bow to his false theories.-Fundamentals of Christian Education, 471, 472 (1897).
Miracles Will Be Performed
The sick will be healed before us. Miracles will be performed in our sight. Are we prepared for the trial which awaits us when the lying wonders of Satan shall be more fully exhibited?-Testimonies For The Church 1:302 (1862).
Men under the influence of evil spirits will work miracles. *They will make people sick by casting their spell upon them, and will then remove the spell, leading others to say that those who were sick have been miraculously healed.* **This Satan has done again and again.**-Selected Messages 2:53 (1903).
Wonderful scenes, with which Satan will be closely connected, will soon take place. God's Word declares that Satan will work miracles. *He will make people sick, and then will suddenly remove from them his satanic power. They will then be regarded as healed.* 👉These works of apparent healing will bring Seventh-day Adventists to the test.👈-Selected Messages 2:53 (1904).
Satan can, through a species of deceptions, perform wonders that will appear to be genuine miracles. It was this he hoped to make a test question with the Israelites at the time of their deliverance from Egypt.-Selected Messages 2:52 (1907).
Fire From Heaven
We must not trust the claims of men. They may, as Christ represents, profess to work miracles in healing the sick. Is this marvelous, when just behind them stands the great deceiver, the miracle worker who will yet bring down fire from heaven in the sight of men?-Selected Messages 2:49 (1887).
It is the lying wonders of the devil that will take the world captive, and he will *cause fire to come down from heaven in the sight of men.* He is to work miracles, and this wonderful, miracle-working power is to sweep in ***the whole world.***-Selected Messages 2:51 (1890).
Satan will come in to deceive if possible the very elect. He claims to be Christ, and he is coming in, pretending to be the great medical missionary. *He will cause fire to come down from heaven in the sight of men to prove that he is God.*-Medical Ministry, 87, 88 (1903).
It is stated in the Word that the enemy will work through his agents who have departed from the faith, and they will seemingly work miracles, *even to the bringing down of fire out of heaven in the sight of men.*-Selected Messages 2:54 (1907).
"He doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do" (Revelation 13:13, 14). No mere impostures are here foretold. Men are deceived by the miracles which Satan's agents have power to do, not which they pretend to do."-The Great Controversy, 553 (1911). Last Day Events, pp. 165.3 - 168.1
To be honest brother this comes across as criticism. Hopefully it’s constructive as the intent but it seems more like chastising. You realize the show has to end on time and is scheduled. If you can show deliberate or mistaken error feel free to do so. We are fallible man and can make mistakes. But to imply pastor Bohr is neglecting to provide this information deliberately is very disingenuous on your part in my opinion.
@@ericb2861 , I am not chastising him. I have learned much from him and have many of his studies in my library. What this interpretation of his will lead to is many Adventists thinking that probation has already closed when they see the personation of Christ. This is the most dangerous thing that could possibly happen, right at the moment when the outpouring of the latter rain is to occur. We must know the truth for ourselves and not be afraid to question our favorite teachers when a huge error that may change the outcome of being sealed and being a part of the 144,000 is at stake.
God bless.
@@randyfoon3165 no problem. I fully agree with questioning those who have taught us and knowing it for ourselves. If this is your intend than I am all for it. Pastor Bohr have taught us to go back and study for ourselves All the studies we have been told from him as well as any other minister. He has debunk many beliefs the church have taught us in the past and in his messages he has proven through further study they were interpreted incorrectly by the church. So. yes we should be like the bereans and know for ourself what we believe and study to show ourselves approve.
God bless you as well
You touch on a point that Adventist pastors disagree on. I’ve heard it preached different ways: some say Sunday Law will come, probation closes, and then Satan appears. Others say Satan will appear first and then institute Sunday Law and then probation closes. We need to go to the Bible first to see what it says. Pastor Bohr did great series on Matthew 24, proving from the Bible and EGW that Satan appears after the close of probation. I encourage you to watch the series if you have not. In regards to the belief that Satan will come first and then the close of probation, there is no proof from the Bible or EGW quotes that proves this. It has been said that “common sense” or “reason” can make the deduction that Satan has to appear first. But, there is no sound scriptural basis for this that I’ve yet learned (although willing to relearn if I’m wrong). To the contrary, look at Matthew 24-the events in this chapter state that the abomination of desolation will occur first, and then the false Christ will appear (as described later in chapter). Some may argue this is not chronological, but the Greek shows that it is all chronological by the frequent use of the word “Then.”
Furthermore, when you think about it, the danger is not so much in being wrong in the thought that probation closes and then Satan appears, as wrong in the thought that Satan appears and then institutes Sunday Law and then close of probation. Reason is: we are commanded to flee to safer regions as much as possible when Sunday Law happens. If we are wrong in sequence of events and instead wait on Satan to appear, we may have missed the “safer window” to flee. On the contrary, if we think probation has closed when it really has not, it won’t really change the persistence of Gods people in seeking Him. Because we will have learned to rely on Him despite our feelings and keep pressing on in faith.
This guy needs to be put in a home he's lost the plot he's delusional