this is clearly a scam and he should be perma banned, not recovered and given free value pack. at 12:58 he has 376 fail stack, TWO VII weapons and 9 enhancement stones in his inventory. at 12:59 the town gets randomly dustier, his fail stack drops to 366, and he has ONE VII and ONE VIII weapon(s) and 10 enhancement stones in inventory. Edit: in case someone actually sees this and tells me the video loops over its duration, in the same time frame you see all of the swaps happening, so 12:58 to 59, the texts about crons/whatever its saying goes slightly down without the enhancement window moving.
It seems there might be a cache issue in the code from the previous time the cron stone box was checked. It appears to be visually checked, but it wasn't actually confirmed as checked in the server side.
And in this case log checking won't even help. As it will just report that he did enhancement without crons. So, based on log it actually would've been seen as user error and not bug. They have logs, but they are not all-mighty in terms of bug tracking.
@@DimkaTsv This is quite scary because you would need to record yourself every time you enhance a higher-tier enchantment to have evidence if there is a bug issue on PA side. The guy in the video is right about saying if he didn't record then PA would've fcked him over saying it's user error.
@@DimkaTsv but still is sus to me. i mean, why delete the report ? if you already check the log then explain "we cant check the log because it seems a visual bug etc etc." everyone should understand why and what happened.
@@UNothing Basically, yes. But person in question said that he himself initially thought that it was his mess up. So support also in their rights to doubt claim without having proof on hand. You know that there is significance of difference between false negative and false positive? They are not equal. If there is 5% chance to get false result in 1% chanced test, then only 0.05% of people get false negative. But 4.5% of people will get false positive. As result way more people will be marked as affected despite not being so compred to number of actually affected people (and especially so number of people that went under the radar of such test). Unconditional restoration from tech support could've lead to crap ton of requests without confirmation to a point of abusing system. As it cannot he checked with logs, how would you resolve this? Only on case by case basis. And to do that you kinda want for user to provide proof of bug. Otherwise people would blatantly abuse system and generating basically free stuff.
@@shimikaze2010 Hard for me to say. I am not that deep into BDO drama. Especially KR one. But it probably was something on level of damage control. And explanation... Well, OP (author of video) hadn't even thought of this possibility. Most people rarely pay attention to such details because they have no idea about how something works. Even in extremely crude approximations. I don't say that it is wrong to have no knowledge of stuff you use (even though it definitely is extremely helpful), but claims made by such people definitely can feel out of touch from reality. But crowd may believe in such thing because it is easily digestable. And people will openly incline to believe everything that will align to their views (and naturally resist to everything that goes against their existing opinion). For example they can make an assumption that every your keypress and click is logged to a server instead of events (which is absurd on many levels). This way they can still continue to blame PA for "attempting to hide the truth" or "not willingness to cooperate".
The video is edited. There are 3 things that give it away. 100 %. the one is cron stones unchecked at 0:18. There are two flickers when he hovers over the weapon in the inventory. The text of a durability decrease jumps a little down and the background of the desert flickers. at 12:59 at Hue's video. + the stack changes to from EXACTLY 376 to 366 when he puts the weapon in which is the EXACT same stack as when the weapon failed?
When problem came from client app, most server don't know the log. In this case ui bug. There are 2 possibilities - user edited video (in ui area) - client app has problem
I did this for accessories earlier today. It said "item destroyed upon failure"" even though crons were selected. I had to click off the crons and turn it back on to work properly
There's been this issue for a while now actually I always double check the cron button. The fact is cron is never enabled by default, the guy enhancing it should have known this. Seems they were careless.
If he kept enhancing the same item after they said they would recover the items then he is exploiting. Why make another fs and continue to enhance before getting back your materials…
I legit think this cron bug happened to me when I was doing debo tapping... twice.... No video of course but now I'll record enhance videos now to see if I can reproduce the problem
We will see what PA will do? PA will see NA continue to keep they wallet shut. I hope China wants to spend. PA Started so strong. Then just ran it into the ground and took advantage of the loyal player base. RIP BDO.
![[BDO] Enhancing Karazad Accessory with 115k Cron Stones 크론석 11만개로 카라자드 악세 강화하기!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AboXmP-AqZE/mqdefault.jpg)
![[BDO] Enhancing Karazad Accessory with 115k Cron Stones 크론석 11만개로 카라자드 악세 강화하기!](/img/tr.png)
![[BDO] Enhancing Sovereign Weapon with 800k Cron Stones 크론석 80만개로 군왕무기 강화하기!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xLRRuTnq3Gc/mqdefault.jpg)
Sept 05. PA recovered his gear and he got 15 days of vlalue pack for compensation.
PA is awful. Putting this player through so much crap over a problem in their code. Game is already in the crapper and they do stuff like this..
this is clearly a scam and he should be perma banned, not recovered and given free value pack.
at 12:58 he has 376 fail stack, TWO VII weapons and 9 enhancement stones in his inventory.
at 12:59 the town gets randomly dustier, his fail stack drops to 366, and he has ONE VII and ONE VIII weapon(s) and 10 enhancement stones in inventory.
Edit: in case someone actually sees this and tells me the video loops over its duration, in the same time frame you see all of the swaps happening, so 12:58 to 59, the texts about crons/whatever its saying goes slightly down without the enhancement window moving.
It seems there might be a cache issue in the code from the previous time the cron stone box was checked. It appears to be visually checked, but it wasn't actually confirmed as checked in the server side.
And in this case log checking won't even help. As it will just report that he did enhancement without crons. So, based on log it actually would've been seen as user error and not bug.
They have logs, but they are not all-mighty in terms of bug tracking.
@@DimkaTsv This is quite scary because you would need to record yourself every time you enhance a higher-tier enchantment to have evidence if there is a bug issue on PA side.
The guy in the video is right about saying if he didn't record then PA would've fcked him over saying it's user error.
@@DimkaTsv but still is sus to me. i mean, why delete the report ? if you already check the log then explain "we cant check the log because it seems a visual bug etc etc." everyone should understand why and what happened.
@@UNothing Basically, yes. But person in question said that he himself initially thought that it was his mess up. So support also in their rights to doubt claim without having proof on hand.
You know that there is significance of difference between false negative and false positive? They are not equal.
If there is 5% chance to get false result in 1% chanced test, then only 0.05% of people get false negative. But 4.5% of people will get false positive. As result way more people will be marked as affected despite not being so compred to number of actually affected people (and especially so number of people that went under the radar of such test).
Unconditional restoration from tech support could've lead to crap ton of requests without confirmation to a point of abusing system. As it cannot he checked with logs, how would you resolve this? Only on case by case basis. And to do that you kinda want for user to provide proof of bug. Otherwise people would blatantly abuse system and generating basically free stuff.
@@shimikaze2010 Hard for me to say. I am not that deep into BDO drama. Especially KR one.
But it probably was something on level of damage control.
And explanation... Well, OP (author of video) hadn't even thought of this possibility. Most people rarely pay attention to such details because they have no idea about how something works. Even in extremely crude approximations. I don't say that it is wrong to have no knowledge of stuff you use (even though it definitely is extremely helpful), but claims made by such people definitely can feel out of touch from reality. But crowd may believe in such thing because it is easily digestable. And people will openly incline to believe everything that will align to their views (and naturally resist to everything that goes against their existing opinion).
For example they can make an assumption that every your keypress and click is logged to a server instead of events (which is absurd on many levels). This way they can still continue to blame PA for "attempting to hide the truth" or "not willingness to cooperate".
The video is edited. There are 3 things that give it away. 100 %. the one is cron stones unchecked at 0:18. There are two flickers when he hovers over the weapon in the inventory. The text of a durability decrease jumps a little down and the background of the desert flickers. at 12:59 at Hue's video. + the stack changes to from EXACTLY 376 to 366 when he puts the weapon in which is the EXACT same stack as when the weapon failed?
With all of the issues being talked about lately by other youtubers, this happening is a huge F-U Bomb and a shot in the foot from PA.
Imagine not having video proof, i would gg myself
When problem came from client app, most server don't know the log. In this case ui bug.
There are 2 possibilities
- user edited video (in ui area)
- client app has problem
I did this for accessories earlier today. It said "item destroyed upon failure"" even though crons were selected. I had to click off the crons and turn it back on to work properly
sure you did :D
There's been this issue for a while now actually I always double check the cron button. The fact is cron is never enabled by default, the guy enhancing it should have known this. Seems they were careless.
Makes you wonder what else is screwed up with the enhancement system.
He got pretty mad and he is right.
It's not a bug It's a feature xD
OMG I would cry.
How Many Marni's Unstable Fuel for Copy Sovereign Weapon ?
Нам там 12 числа завезут этот контент. Я надеюсь, что такого не будет 😂
fuck this game cuh
ayt back to grinding crescents
@@Senira322 LMAO
Damn straight
frfr
I agree bro
bruh.. talk about a mountain over a grain of sand.. if you had just rechecked the crons.. you could see them in gray obviously not being used
If he kept enhancing the same item after they said they would recover the items then he is exploiting. Why make another fs and continue to enhance before getting back your materials…
I legit think this cron bug happened to me when I was doing debo tapping... twice.... No video of course but now I'll record enhance videos now to see if I can reproduce the problem
Welcome to Bugs Desert guys 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep. So glad i quit 3 weeks ago. 🙌
I love kr drama 😂 ty for being test realm since PA can’t test their own game. 😢
We will see what PA will do? PA will see NA continue to keep they wallet shut. I hope China wants to spend. PA Started so strong. Then just ran it into the ground and took advantage of the loyal player base. RIP BDO.
time too look other games...
this is insane
Ban or riot
nah what............
HİKO BABA
i cant wait to quit this game
PA Try to avoid and ignore this case Lol