Great guide! New to ele shammy and planning to raid with it as my alt, having a lot of fun already. I see a lot of people saying they scale terribly as the expansion progresses. What is the reason for this? They have awesome crit talents, get a ton of hit for free so are able to stack other stats...Thats usually stuff I would say gave great scaling. So why do they fall off dps wise?
Thank you for the compliment! I'm glad you're enjoying it! The fun really never stops :). However, some of the fall off comments are based in reality and some are myths. I apologize that this will be a bit of a long form answer so feel free to skim but I think this deserves addressing throughly 😀. One, when blizzard changed the base cast time of lightning bolt and chain lightning coming into TBC, so with that, they changed the spell coefficients of those spells as well. So when we get spellpower it has less of an effect on our spells as it does on a warlock for example. Two, we still scale very well with haste and crit, and quite frankly not a lot of elemental shamans on things like private servers have really attempted to make sets that made haste crit and spellpower balance harmoniously. I have done a lot of digging through private server data and forums and cannot find a solid shaman who built their sets to be optimal. So because of that, I firmly believe that that's where the myths come in. So, it's not so much that we don't scale well, honestly its that others are known very well who scales the best and most gravitated towards those specs as you can see. I was throughly considering switching to enhancement by the end because of how well it scales, but comments like this make me want to prove people wrong, so ele I shall stay 😀.
Subscribed. Also playing an ele shaman this time around. I love it, but have been hearing this talk and thinking of going after a good enchancement set for that reason. Even though I’d much rather stay ele. Is there anyway I can stay in contact with ya? Would like to ask some questions and or see what your mind set or thinking is moving forward into p3&p4.
Thanks for subscribing and for all the kind words! Here's what I'll say. There's nothing wrong with playing enhancement as it does scale extremely well. However, elemental also has strong scaling factors with haste and I genuinely think people underestimate how strong we are in the later stages of the expansion. If you prefer elemental, definitely stay elemental and I'll be talking about ways that we can break the limits along the way! If you wanna contact me directly you can follow me on Twitter or join my discord and message me there! Both links are in the description. 😀
How do you not go OOM on this fight? My guild still can't get this guy down. So on attempts where my fire elemental is on CD I go oom from fire totems.
It really depends on your group comp. Most weeks I get a shadow priest and I get put in the arcane mage group because they do more damage on this fight than warlocks if they are good. Otherwise optimizing your potions and runes is the only way, but even then you'll likely be oom by the end if your guild doesn't have strong enough dps.
They are still strong for longer fights if you get the 4 piece. You'll have the same spellpower as if you had the totem but you just won't be buffing your party. You'll also have a bit more crit. It's no loss to you personally 😆.
you wern't well fed and your fire nova was slow and you didnt magma totem. Ur literally saying drop your totems while you are ignoring your totems 4:47
Correct I was without the well fed buff. I forgot I died on trash before this and didn't eat. Perhaps that made the difference on my next 99 parse 😆. Also, you're correct about the totem thing, that's why I state at the beginning of the video that I'm also coaching myself lol. But I was also explaining what to properly do, and if you pay close attention I edited some voice out because the part where I talk about it doesn't quite line up with what's happening on the screen. This was my first 99 parse pull so I didn't realize even that the ele suffered damage from morogrims AoE. Since then, fixed as represented by my logs in the description 😀. Glad you paid so much attention! ❤
I have It but I don't use it very often. It's nice for single target boss fights for sure, but the double spellpower trinkets have served me very well on almost all fights.
Big pumper dude! lets gooooo big numbers
Great guide! New to ele shammy and planning to raid with it as my alt, having a lot of fun already. I see a lot of people saying they scale terribly as the expansion progresses. What is the reason for this? They have awesome crit talents, get a ton of hit for free so are able to stack other stats...Thats usually stuff I would say gave great scaling. So why do they fall off dps wise?
Thank you for the compliment! I'm glad you're enjoying it! The fun really never stops :). However, some of the fall off comments are based in reality and some are myths. I apologize that this will be a bit of a long form answer so feel free to skim but I think this deserves addressing throughly 😀. One, when blizzard changed the base cast time of lightning bolt and chain lightning coming into TBC, so with that, they changed the spell coefficients of those spells as well. So when we get spellpower it has less of an effect on our spells as it does on a warlock for example. Two, we still scale very well with haste and crit, and quite frankly not a lot of elemental shamans on things like private servers have really attempted to make sets that made haste crit and spellpower balance harmoniously. I have done a lot of digging through private server data and forums and cannot find a solid shaman who built their sets to be optimal. So because of that, I firmly believe that that's where the myths come in. So, it's not so much that we don't scale well, honestly its that others are known very well who scales the best and most gravitated towards those specs as you can see. I was throughly considering switching to enhancement by the end because of how well it scales, but comments like this make me want to prove people wrong, so ele I shall stay 😀.
@@Darkest_TV great response, very informative! I guess stacking crit hard with LC and the sextant is super viable then
I wouldn't recommend completely abandoning spellpower, but yes sextant is turning out to be very powerful. I'm waiting in line for mine atm. 😆
Subscribed. Also playing an ele shaman this time around. I love it, but have been hearing this talk and thinking of going after a good enchancement set for that reason. Even though I’d much rather stay ele. Is there anyway I can stay in contact with ya? Would like to ask some questions and or see what your mind set or thinking is moving forward into p3&p4.
Thanks for subscribing and for all the kind words! Here's what I'll say. There's nothing wrong with playing enhancement as it does scale extremely well. However, elemental also has strong scaling factors with haste and I genuinely think people underestimate how strong we are in the later stages of the expansion. If you prefer elemental, definitely stay elemental and I'll be talking about ways that we can break the limits along the way! If you wanna contact me directly you can follow me on Twitter or join my discord and message me there! Both links are in the description. 😀
How do you not go OOM on this fight? My guild still can't get this guy down. So on attempts where my fire elemental is on CD I go oom from fire totems.
It really depends on your group comp. Most weeks I get a shadow priest and I get put in the arcane mage group because they do more damage on this fight than warlocks if they are good. Otherwise optimizing your potions and runes is the only way, but even then you'll likely be oom by the end if your guild doesn't have strong enough dps.
What shoulders are you using T5 or T4?
T4 helm and shoulders, both of which I'll be using until I trade them for t6.
Well fuck wish I didn’t claim BIS for them.
They are still strong for longer fights if you get the 4 piece. You'll have the same spellpower as if you had the totem but you just won't be buffing your party. You'll also have a bit more crit. It's no loss to you personally 😆.
you wern't well fed and your fire nova was slow and you didnt magma totem. Ur literally saying drop your totems while you are ignoring your totems 4:47
Correct I was without the well fed buff. I forgot I died on trash before this and didn't eat. Perhaps that made the difference on my next 99 parse 😆. Also, you're correct about the totem thing, that's why I state at the beginning of the video that I'm also coaching myself lol. But I was also explaining what to properly do, and if you pay close attention I edited some voice out because the part where I talk about it doesn't quite line up with what's happening on the screen. This was my first 99 parse pull so I didn't realize even that the ele suffered damage from morogrims AoE. Since then, fixed as represented by my logs in the description 😀. Glad you paid so much attention! ❤
Hi Daddy
BTW I finally got totem of the void last week LOL.
Nice. I still don’t have lightning cap lol.
I have It but I don't use it very often. It's nice for single target boss fights for sure, but the double spellpower trinkets have served me very well on almost all fights.