Jiang Qin | The Twelve Tiger Generals of Wu Let's Talk Lore E04
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I like how his family lived modestly given their status, I wish more would do the same
So far, the worst "next generation" was the poor Han Dang... Sadly there's no way how severe was the law broken by Jiang Xiu
Wow, so far the children of these generals end up crapping on their father’s legacy. I feel bad for the Tiger Generals.
I mean this is almost the expected result. It’s very hard for second generations to match their father especially when you are not from an established clan. Like your father risked his life so you don’t have to and can enjoy the benefits he earned for you.
Except for Huang Gai... Yeah... Either traitors, criminals or simply "not as good"
To be fair oldest son seemed like a decent one, too bad he died too early
It really feels insane when you think about how much 'Heroic' figures there are in 3K and how their talents are displayed so prominently but then once they have died it feels like the next generation simply cannot match them at all, like living in a world that has Sima Yi, Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu, but once they are gone the next ones to replace them are comparatively mediocore, and it feels way more evident towards Wu/Shu with their limited population.
That's a given, since it was the fathers who were exceptional - which by definition is rare - and thus their more normal sons cant never match. Furthermore, while the father were trained and tested by their hardship, the sons never experienced that and became less devoted/capable.
Nevertheless, sons of ministers and advisors (like Shima Shi or Zhuge Zhan) seem to do better than sons of generals, mostly because they have more chances to stay close and be mentored by their fathers. Sons of generals tend to grow up away from their fathers (as they stay in the capital while their fathers are on campaigns), and thus tend to become a normal spoiled kids instead.
A harsh childhood forges your charactor while growing up surrounded by exfessive wealth and flattery spoils you. ShuHan's Fu Qian and Huang Chong both lost their father at a young age and both grew up to become decent charactors.
@ Great point about generals vs advisors/ministers, im actually not able to recall a general's son that was comparatively capable but the list of advisors/ministers sons carry the 2nd generation.
I think that has more to do with gentry clans who are 1) used to the wealth and influence that they had and 2) cared very much about education and legacy.
Seems not just Wu but every major almost mythical characters' second generation didnt do too well. Liu bei, sunquan's and all the Wu's general. Yeah my child is screwed.
Liu Shan did alright, and I wouldnt exactly blame 9 year old Sun Liang for the failures of Wu
Jian Qin was ex pirate/bandit?
No that was just the narrative given in the romance novels
The second generation of Wu generals feels like a bunch of Gen Z being eyed down by the Boomers (1st gen)
Or most the Greatest Generation of officers beaming their looks of disillusions upon their deviously inept scions across the Three Kingdoms of China.