“CLUB AND KNIFE FIGHTING” WWII U.S. MARINE CORPS BASIC TRAINING HAND-TO-HAND FIGHTING FILM XD49004
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This 1940s black and white Marine Corps training film offers advice on close-range, hand-to-hand combat with tips on club and knife fighting. Training demonstrations on a Pacific coast beach aim to prepare servicement for battle on the beaches of Japan, ending in an encouragement to fight “dirty.” Note: This film is reflective of its wartime era and contains offensive racist language and dramatizations (TRT: 21:54).
Opening titles: “U.S. Marine Corps Official Training Film, Produced by the Marine Corps Photographic Section, Combat Conditioning Series Part 3, Club and Knife Fighting” (0:06). “To kill your enemy from as great a distance as possible is good sense… but a time may come when you will engage him at close quarters” (0:40). Oceanside palm trees on a sunny beach. Two men lower a lifeboat to the sand and look for shelter (1:03). One man takes a knife, while another picks up a club (1:33). The man wielding a knife sets out on a scouting patrol. Narration: “Uh oh, Tojo land,” referencing General Hideki Tojo of the Japanese Imperial Army (IJA). A man passes carrying a Japanese parcel. Having noticed one-another, the two men draw their blades (2:06). A silhouette of a swordsman. Correct grip is demonstrated, the knife’s guard preventing a glancing blow from contacting the hand. The point of the knife faces the enemy’s eyes (2:24). A low thrust is demonstrated by a man crouching and using his free arm for balance (3:37). Parrying blows are next illustrated, ending in hand-cutting, throat-slashing and side-jabbing movements (4:35). A double-parry (5:35). Disengaging a locked blade (6:05). Disarming from the reverse side (6:55). Basic knife movements in review demonstrated by a long line of men in helmets, extending to the horizon (7:16). Returning to the battle scene, the marine makes quick work of his opponent (8:36). An ambush comes for the club wielding soldier. He is held at gunpoint, but a bayonet closes in instead (9:01). The club is quickly raised to block the bayonet and stop the attacker (9:28). A closeup of a club. Demonstrating a proper grip, and a two-handed snapping method (9:41). How to draw a club with a short grip and outstretched forefinger. Kneeing in the crotch while striking a chin blow with the club. Finishing by breaking a nose in slow motion (10:22). The disadvantage of drawing a club from the front is illustrated in a losing scenario. Aiming for the knees, wrists, elbows, and neck with a long grip on the club (11:00). A short grip makes the club harder for the opponent to grab. Contact points for the short grip follow in demonstration (12:11). A kick is blocked with a locking grip that brings the assailant to the ground (13:12). The “Japanese choke” is demonstrated with arms crossed and a knee in the back. Narration cheers on the assault (13:55). Closeup on the choke in review (14:36). A rear sneak attack threatens a broken arm (14:54). A “hammer lock,” with an opponent’s arm twisted behind his back. A knife is pulled by the opponent, and the club is used to disarm him (16:00). A short grip club blocks various knife blows (17:07). A long tracking shot across lines of drilling marines, all practicing self-defense with knives and clubs (17:51). Fixing a bayonet. A pair of men demonstrate how to use a club against a bayonet attacker. Parrying, counterattacks in medium and closeup views (18:05). A defensive blow behind the neck (19:06). A bayonet by itself is shown to offer club-like advantages. Full-speed bayonet defense drills (19:58). “Dirty fighting” techniques are covered. Throwing a clump of dirt to surprise an attacker. Tossing a helmet at an opponent’s head. An outstretched thumb reaches for a man’s eye. Spitting in an opponent’s face (20:50). Narration: “There’s no doctrine for dirty fighting-- Everything goes!” (21:27). End titles (21:38).
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Mis-gendering is more effective.
SIMPLETON.
YOU TRULY EMBODY THE SAYING, 'IDIOTS AND THEIR MONEY ALWAYS PART'.
@@CooManTunes i pity you
I was in the Marine Corps infantry and I had some training on Knife fighting. I'll never forget my instructor said "This is all great but if you come across someone who actually know how to use a knife you better just shoot him."
Lol. Brilliant.
Yep, that was the best advice given to me.
If you’re that close in a fight, then you better shoot quick and shoot the head effectively. There’s around a 40 foot gap where a knife wielding person can close the gap to the gunman and stab / slash them. If don’t get a critical shot that stops them immediately, the adrenaline will only further empower them.
Now everybody is different, and some people may just go into shock after being shot, while some may be able to persevere and continue the fight off of adrenaline. Just never underestimate your foe, and be weary of knives, they can be more effective than guns as far as close quarters combat in some situations.
Words of wisdom
@@seekndestroy8970 "the adrenaline will only further empower them" you have anything to back that up? Are you just assuming all attackers are on drugs?
A non-fatal shot would still slow down an attacker, and allow you to get more shots on target. Their is a good reason they say "don't bring a knife to a gun fight"
Also don't aim for the head, aim for center of mass you are more likely to actually hit your target and therefore more likely to stop them and not send bullets into places you do not intend.
My bayonet instructor said "Stay on the offensive, kill the bastard as quick as you can, and don't worry about losing. You'll only lose one knife fight in your whole career."
Lmao!
“A sharp thumb to the eye will make the enemy wonder what he’s fighting for”
Man what a line.
lol
I like when he said clubbing the enemy on the bridge of the nose will make him lose his interest in life.
@@wagtailt.v.759 the narrator is definitely a tough guy I bet.
😂👍
TBH The British films have better lines.
"Spoil his prospects" = kick him in the nuts... The English have a wonderful way of using language.
20:56
Well, it’s official!
The legendary “POCKET SAND” is a USMC approved technique!
though they chose to omit the squirrel tactic...
Fight like the other guy wants to eat your last crayon ;)
RUSTY SHACKLEFORD WAS A MARINE! IT ALL MAKES SENSE
if you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin!
My uncle carried a pouch of hot chili pepper powder in his pocket to throw in the eyes of some thug in order to get the jump on them. He couldn’t legally carry a weapon so he went with that 😄
The first rule of a knife fight: try not to get into a knife fight.
Second rule don't bring a knife to a gun fight
There are no winners after a knife fight, just degrees of loser.
I'd rather be in a gunfight than a knife fight.
@@leswallis8158 Usually yes - ' tho I've heard knife fighting pundits claim sometimes the knife has the edge at close quarters.
- I suspect because they figure they can either draw faster or just conseal it then stab.
I have no first hand experience of fighting guns with knives so don't take this as 'guidance'!
@@Farweasel its called the 21 foot rule...Generally if you have a holstered weapon and a person is with in 21 feet, they can charge you and attack before you can draw your weapon...Out side of 21 feet you can draw your weapon generally faster than it takes to close the distance with a knife.
This is the most wholesome instruction on ruthless physical violence I've ever seen.
That made me lol
And probably the most useless
@Phillip Ramos Not in this case. The reason armies do not teach effective unramed combat is that to get good takes thousands of hours of practice. Time better spent learning to be soldiers.
None of the people above could even demonstrate the techniques at full speed as choreography
@Phillip Ramos Apart from minor army experience I spent 36 years teaching martial arts.
Sure the army could (say) teach someone to box. But put them in the ring with a professional boxer and they would be lucky to get through to the end of the round.
OTOH, put two useless boxers together and its a lot more even.
However, from a military unarmed combat POV insane aggression is far more valuable than token training
"let's see how your friend is doing with his club. watch out pal" 😂
An excellent Self-Defence video for those that need to visit London for a work trip.
I always like learning this stuff even if I might never use it. "It's better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in war.".
That is my approach, but watching this, I found, that if - heaven prevent - caught in the garden, I'm hopefully near a shovel, a pick or an axe, because I know I will most likely lack strength to get to a lucky end for me with only a club or a garden-knife (even my garden-scissors are longer than my garden-knife). And I know I have still to work on aimed pot-throwing. What use is throwing anything, when you don't hit your target...
I thought you said operation market garden
@@MagnaMater2 you took my quote way too literal. It just means its better to be prepared for combat, because you never know what the future holds.
@@Moneyg73 The only place somebody can find me outside the house is in the garden. (I actually wouldn't know a reason why anybody else should want to be anywhere else BUT in a garden.) So of course it is very literal.
Always learn useful things.
My Marine combat trainer said no matter how good you are, if you get in a knife fight you're going to get cut. Just make sure his wounds are worse than yours!
That's the facts, you have to be willing to trade, and get you're knife 🗡️ in his neck. You will live cut or stabbed and he will die.
I am an army vet, our instructors gave the same warning. Told us to always enter a knife fight by accepting you will be stabbed or sliced...they said the one who goes into a knife fight worrying or being timid about getting cut is the one who will die.
That's the only rational attitude to have when put in this situation. It's amazing how many people have completely unrealistic expectations.
No one wins in a knife fight!
Yo Mama so Native she thought that the "Indian-apolis" 500 was a Poker Machine at the Casino.
In my youth I took years of knife and stick training, before I realized the most difficult part is training your opponent to not move faster than you.
Being a good sparring partner is definitely harder than learning to fight because you must check your ego and think about helping your bro and not yourself when you're "uke."
haha g1
What was the purpose of this "sticking training" if we may ask!!?
I learned years of fighting with fresh fruit and was waiting to learn pointed stick
@@itsaguinness vegetable
I had pretty intensive edge weapon training when I was in Recon in The Corps in the early 70's. If you came up against a mostly untrained or lightly trained bad guy with a knife they were pretty easily disposed of, but if they were highly trained, and especially if they were bigger and stronger, it really came down to the courage and discipline to give up your off forearm to his blade to get a kill thrust. You'd mostly likely come away with some bone damage and a significant but non life threatening wound but you'd still be alive...Semper Fi
Damn! That really puts the grim reality of it into perspective.
A combat vet told me that sometimes it boils down to instincts. Some men want to live more than others.
Train like your life and everyone else's depend on it.
With knife fighting you can greatly increase your odds of survival by fighting as aggressively as possible. Even as far back as the Samurai there was the concept of "Iuchie" which basically was when you knew you were overmatched you made sure you committed mutual suicide lol. You got him even if he got you, so to speak.
Most people who study knives study how to get the drop in someone for this very reason.
I think a better way of saying that would be, [some men have more to live for than others].
The men who want to live the most are usually the ones who's deeds are the most wicked. They know that if they die, they cannot continue to do them.
As human beings the best way we can combat their will to live, is to train ourselves not to feel guilty when committing good deeds.
@@scottlee9373 Tell them stop, the real concern is Climate Change....
"if you break his back, don't worry. That's the idea" lmao savage
and just for good measure hit him in the eyes, break his nose, knock his teeth out, break his ribs and hit him in the groin... wasted...
That means you're doing it right 👍😂
my favorite part!! makes me feel like i was born in the wrong time period...
Yeah... that and making sure he is down after a club choke starting at the nose and teeth, crushing the windpipe, and then still ravaging the crouch to verify the target cannot effectively scream anymore. Thinking back about it, if he is, he now has swallowed his teeth.
Poor guy, imagine he was just coming to ask for a match in the night... you'll never know. That's why "the Art of not Being Seen" is such an important lesson!
@@mrl3285 Same.
This reminds me of my grandfather's HTH manual from WWII. It covered everything from open-hand, improvised weapon, and knife fighting to countering a fixed bayonet and samurai sword. Not a bad way to have grampa start teaching me, especially since I was only ten!
Years later I remember Drill Sargent Wells who was the only Vietnam veteran of our Drill Sargents, walk by and snarled, "If you find yourself in a stand-up-one-on-one knife fight you already effed-up to let him get that close to you, so accept that you're going to be cut, it IS going to hurt, and YOU need to decide weather YOU want to live more than HE does!" That was Tropic Lightning Drill Sargent Wells for you.
I love this video. I used to teach baton and cane self defence. My son Is a Marine, and I understand that he is considered one of the real pros in hand to hand combat in his battalion. Marine hand to hand has come a long way, But so much of this is great training for beginners and civilians. And it's a really great video! This narrator is amazing.
God bless your son and keep him safe. Glad you enjoy the film.
"To do the most damage, aim for vulnerable spots such as..." *names every body part*
Head shoulders knees and groin knees and groin. Eyes and neck and wrists and nose. Head shoulders knees and groin knees and groin.
Humans are very weak,at least you know what you’re aiming for instead of just swinging lmao
The forearms can take a good amount of damage.
I mean, they didn't have body armor back then and a knife always beats meat.
@@angelparrilla2068 still don't.
kevlar don't protect from a stabbing - only from a shot.
it's kinda funny
As an inner-city bus driver I find this film useful.
God bless you and protect you out there!
Use your city issued firearm first. If you are not issued one…. Quit your job.
@@CategoricalImperative official policy is no pocket knives over three inches long, this policy is routinely broken. I also know a couple of drivers that carry pocket pistols. If you fight back against an attacker you will lose your job and your pension but you may be alive.
It wasn't even to soldiers in that time. Bozo
Might not be the best out there but better than nothing
If i were in hand to hand combat with an enemy soldier, I cannot imagine having the presence of mind to remember and perform all these moves if my life were in danger.
That’s why it’s taught so much to troops. Eventually it becomes ingrained by pure instinct and muscle memory. A good taught fighter can adapt to the battle instantly as a response to the threat with there teachings.
training and keeping your mind functional during combat helps a lot - if you devolve into mindless reaction, you'll never get one up on your enemy. Think, and make them react to you, rather than you always reacting to them.
You think the martial artist , boxer or MMA fighter thinks about moves in a fight... They react , all the practice is turns those moves & techniques into subconscious reaction. I fought a broken 40oz wielding guy off with a large pocket knife at a party once, getting the knife out and open and ready was the most important part, he was running at me , luckily i reacted , and after he saw he was gonna get stuck & or slashed to get me, he ran away, he slashed 2 ppl before he came at me, my buddy didnt finish a previous fight and the guy got a bottle, always finish a fight.
These classic safety and training videos need to be stored in a museum, they sure don't make them like they used to!
"A sharp thumb in the eye will make the enemy wonder what he's fighting for."
🤣🤣🤣
You'll learn two things the first time you do this:
1: The inside of a man's eye socket feels exactly like the inside of a wet vagina.
2: They'll stop and start screaming like nothing else.
Amazing to think that a thumb in the eye can cause one to question and re-evaluate one's whole socio-political-geographic-cultural-economic-religious beliefs.
However, this regularly happens to me when I stand on lego so it really does happen.
@@JonSmith-cx7gr Lol
Fast forward to the 2000's and we have "gas chambers" full of mace to stick folks in and have them recite nursery rhymes while their face melts. Good times
I still remember learning some of these basics from my grandfather who trained and fought in WWII in Europe. One day around 11 or 12 he saw me playing about with a rubber knife and said something like "if you pulled a move like that, someone would just break your arm" and proceeded to give me an afternoons instruction on bayonet fighting in the front yard.
Thats awesome man
That's some gangsta shit right there
Haha two bozos with knives. You and your granddad.
"Poppy, will you teach me how to kill people?"
God bless America 🫡
Last time a club fight broke out in my office, I was completely unprepared. This information should help my career. More seriously, it's hard to imagine the Japanese soldier choosing to use a bayonette rather than fire. They could have said his gun jammed.
Ehh maybe, but look back at the number of Banzai charges the Japanese engaged in during the war. Also look at the way they treated POWs. They absolutely took every chance they could to bayonet unarmed enemies.
Somehow I've seen this video 2 times. I sent a link today to my daughter. I taught her how to fight with a knife when I was in the Army. Gulf War Veteran 1990-91.
In my misspent youth, in the late 60s, one of my unarmed combat instructors, in the Marines always ended every demonstration, with the saying, "then kick them in the nuts". Good advice.
That advice dates back to WW2, W.E. Fairbairn always ended his demonstrations with that. Wonder if your combat instructor was one of Fairbairn's pupils....
@@Selvikus Would that be the same Fairbairn, that had something to do with the Fairbairn-Sykes Stiletto?
@@kirkjones9639 Yes! He was the same Fairbairn who designed the stiletto with Sykes.
..."and as always, remember to re-stomp the groin!" ~ Ameri-Do-Te, Master Ken (TH-cam)
"That's my purse! I don't know you!"
- Bobby Hill
My instructor in Army basic training (1968) said hand-to-hand combat happens only when both sides are out of ammunition. He said our job was to surprise the enemy with the fact that we still had a few bullets held back for use during hand-to-hand combat.
Thats nice, but sometimes you are the first one without ammo. Like SAS in middle east. They smashed them anyways
Yeah, interesting. I was enlisted from 1996-2004, USMCr. I've always wondered, WHAT IF in place of either the K-bar or the bayonet, to use that weight savings to carry a few extra rounds of rifle ammo INSTEAD! Your chances of winning a bayonet-vs-bayonet fight are 50% (according to the Marine guidebook), but it would be 100% if you had just one round for your rifle. The logic in favor of replacing one (or both) combat knives with a few extra rounds, i think, is sort of overwhelming. MAkes me think the purpose of carrying those knives is PSYCHOLOGICAL/cultural/warrior spirit, not based on reality!
@@Will-ql5db It's not just a weapon, it's mostly a tool. I bought a couple cheap surplus ak bayonets for like $10 each and use one almost every day. Anything from an actual knife to a bottle opener to a wire cutter or hammer.
What does ARMY stand for?
@@tetsuoswrath When I was drafted, US ARMY = Uncle Sam Ain't Released Me Yet.
I like how that low thrust is directly taken from “passata sotto” move in Italian rapier fencing
Trading your knife for a club just because you can make up for the other guy's weakness is a sigma move right there
"If his crotch isn't pulverized, you are doing something wrong." - General Knee'em Indacrotch
best comment ive seen
"Grab his d*ck and twist it!" - General P. Nis Puller
He was a great Indian general. He rose to fame by turning Chief Standing Bull into Chief Sitting Bull
@@josh6550 and then Chief lying on floor and crying bull
This short should have been called "crotch shot fighting"
Absolutely love the film they don’t teach enough groin clubbing in todays military.
Or Eye gouging!
@@longrider42 or spitting in their eyes! (But check for windage first!!!!!)
those old garand bayonets were like a half sword
Or how to fight with a Long Sword.
Using a groin thrust is particularly applicable today so that you’ll know what pronoun to insult them with for the rest of the fight.
Its crazy to think that a young marine watched this exact video in basic and these tactics either worked in his favor or the enemy's favor in a hand to hand combat scenario.
My instructor in the army was teaching everybody how to defend against a knife attack. It was all going gravy until he decided to show how confident on his skills he was and gave us a real knife. The first kid went there and sure enough the instructor took the knife and dominated him. Then nobody else wanted to try, except me. So he gave me the knife and told me to attack him, the moment I held the knife with a reverse grip and place it behind my body with my other hand in front he stopped and told everybody. If you ever come across anyone that holds the knife like that, just run.
Nothing like having a crazy uncle when you are 10.
Running is great advice, but if you have to defend from someone stabbing overhead while in an icepick grip (reverse grip), 16:30 and the medieval HEMA manuals show how to do it. There are a limited number of attack vectors from reverse grip, so in some ways it is easier to defend against than a fencing grip where it is easier to disguise what you're doing with the tip lined up with their eyes as the video explains.
@@kaizen5023 The last thing you should do while holding a knife on a reverse grip is to attack with a overhead stabbing motion. Way too easy to defend against. Any stabbing motion would be ill advised. (except in one case) You need slicing motion, like you are punching, using a Ulnar Deviation Wrist position. Not haymakers, just jabs. (and only re-actively)
It is deadly.
If you know a defense for it, please let me know.
PS.: The exception to the stabbing motion is when you throw one of those jabs and the opponent leans forward too much and manages to weave himself out of the way (normally they get sliced in the process) But if they got too close and your hand went pass their heads, then you bring your hand back in a stabbing motion into the back of their neck, it is very powerful, because you are using your back muscles, it depends on a few variables but that move will tend to be the last.
This is a story you tell to other dudes because you think other dudes will finally think you're cool.
@@dimesonhiseyes9134 The "finally" cracked me up! 🤣😂
And then everyone clapped.
This is how the Marine Corps taught my Grandfather how to fight. He fought the Japanese Imperial Army all through the South Pacific during World War 2. He was not afraid of much. Rest In Peace, Leonard Lee Ellison. 07/21/24 - 11/08/2001. Semper Fi.
RIP to your grandfather. Mine too, he was first off the boat marine in 3 offensives Bougeville was one of the more known ones. Died in 2011 but was never the same after 1943. Couple true hero’s
@@burtharbenson8860 my best regards and respect.
Prayers and respect to your grandfather for fighting for my freedom. And to you too, sir, for keeping his memory alive.
Semper Fi Leonard Ellison!🇱🇷
I take great comfort in knowing that when I gaze on Heavens scenes, I will see the streets are guarded by UNITED STATES MARINES! See you soon Dad. Sergeant Charles C. Smock 1st Marine Division Korean War.
Salute to your Grandfather. A true American hero!
"It is guaranteed to end his interest in life" wise words about human interaction.
I'm putting that on my Linkedin - "A professional with more than 30 years of guaranteeing the end of a persons interest in life."
a jolt to your interest in life from which you may never recover!
the action will make them incompatible with life and compatible with the ground
@@yomommashaus id hire you
😂
My sergeant in the 82nd ABN had the best advice for when an enemy pulls a knife: “respond with your 1911”
If he's not within stabbing distance.....
I knew the throw the dirt would come up, but spit and check the windage is classic.😅
The winner of a knife fight is the guy who dies later.
Or the guy who gets to the Medic/First Aid tent, first.
@@longrider42 or was smart enough to save ammo and shot the bastard in the first place
Over a long enough timescale, this is true for all conflict.
Or in any fight
True. 😃😃😃😃
When I was in the 12th grade we had the chance to listen to a ww2 veteran speak for our history class. The old soldier
Told us that if it wasn’t for this type of knife training he received he most likely would have died the day he got into a hand to hand fight with an enemy soldier. He mentioned how his bicep was nearly cleaved in half but thanks to his training he was able to “finish off” the other soldier with a more serious wound. I know it’s said 100 times over that there is no such thing as knife fighting. But I personally believe at least understanding the mechanics of what a knife fight is, can give you a better chance of surviving then relying on just raw instinct.
I will have to ask my dad (vietnam vet) again for the story, but he used to rent a place from a WW1 vet. He explained to dad one day what had happened to his left hand, with a giant scar right down to the wrist, between middle and ring finger. He told dad (don't know where or exactly when) that they had been doing No Man's Land, and retreated back to their trenches, so the Germans counter attacked right before dark. They had run out of ammo right before it was so dark you couldn't see, but repelled the attack. The old man said he had fired down to the last couple of his rounds, and the bodies were piled up, and a German came running up with a bayonet charge and swung his rifle straight down at his face so he lifted his left hand and it split it clean down to almost the wrist. He fell down, stuck out his Springfield and one-handed a shot into the German which dropped him. After that, he said he spent the night where he was with the other bodies, until enough light was showing he could unwrap his hand, and pull thread from uniforms around him to sew it up as fast as he could, until he was sure he could sneak out for a hospital run. Remember, he didn't know if any Germans were crawling around waiting to down anyone, and while he could hear others moving or making noise, he wasn't sure who they were or how long he would have to wait to crawl out, or even if reinforcements would show up. Come to find out across his trench, maybe a handful of the company had survived, so they got together and retreated further on down the line and he got his hand patched back up. Sorry to say I don't know more on the story or the old man outside that.
When I was in the military (early 90's), they just told us the basics of run, chop & stab, nothing fancy, some RBFT of running dummy stabs with the M16-A1's, but told us in reality...don't do it unless you got a death wish and you are in a real bad spot. Buttstroke to the head, buttstroke to the groin, stabby stabby and run like hell to get more ammo.
If you study Japanese sword play and the Samurai at all you find that there is no such thing as sword fighting either. It usually boils down to just a few quick strokes and it's over. Ask Musashi. Lol
Ya man
Big ole knife like Chucky!!!!!
How would there be no such thing as knife fighting? The hell sense does that make?
This training video is incredible! 100X better than even modern videos on knife fighting today because these techniques are very effective and realistic. My only qualm is the second technique "parry". It is right to be the third technique learned as I agree it is the third greatest value technique. So, my qualm is, the narrator should've added when explainging the parry, "If you can control the opponent's knife hand, then you must absolutelt do so, however, it is not the kain focus of the technique. Combat is dynamic and the struggle will be very dynamic and you may not be able to grab the opponent's knife hand. In that event, then refer back to knife techniques #1 and #2."
My dad was a Vietnam era Marine. He always said, sooner or later you're gonna run out of bullets and introduced me to blades at a young age. I have zero guns, as they interest me very little. But I know how to wield a knife. Thanks, pops.
Anyone who says "wield" is automatically a dweeb with fantasies about being a blade "wielder"
@C Ray you's a tough ol bastard huh? Or ya just a keyboard cowboy?
@@cray9868 If you keep company with wolves, you will learn how to howl.
I teach HEMA in California and I love that many of the techniques in this video are taught in 500 and 600 year old fencing manuscripts.
Yeah there's only so many ways to shove a knife into somebody.
I recognized the low thrust with the hand on the ground. Thanks skallagrim.
@@americaforever2798 This is called a s'basso in Italian rapier. I'd love to a video using some of this footage with pictures from the manuscripts and perform the actions.
@@swordfightingschool That would be pretty awesome. I haven't seen anything like that. Sounds like an opportunity to me.
Thats what i just thought. :) one is literally „Krump uf behend, wirf den ort uf die hend“
The way they talked back then- straight to the point with a twist of fist. Gotta love it.
And nowadays it's about proper pronouns, and whether or not you have two mommies and a pregnant father
@@iamwhoimnotimnotwhoiam4431 whatever dude
@@rexjolles yeah, whatever I say
@@iamwhoimnotimnotwhoiam4431 Why are you guys so obsessed with pronouns? Everyone has a pronoun, just get over it and focus on the actual important matters.
@@iamwhoimnotimnotwhoiam4431 take a seat loser.
My dad served 3 years in World War II in Patton's "shock troops". He was at Omaha Beach Red (2nd wave). He told me when I was a young boy that Patton told his troops that if he caught anyone fighting hand-to-hand combat and survived he would court martial them.
Patton wasn't in command of anything during the Normandy invasion. And then the war ended in a year. You can just say you think Patton was cool lmao
I didn't say that Patton was at "D-Day", only that my dad was. Following a controversial incident in Sicily with the slapping of a shell-shocked soldier, Patton was sidelined in the major planning of the Normandy invasion, but as his expertise in the field of modern mobile warfare was considered vital to the Normandy breakout after D-Day, he was reinstated. Patton had his faults, but his men loved him.
“most beaches are littered with anti-Jap clubs”. Good thing to remember. While I’ve just begun watching this training film I bet there are a ton more of quotes worth remembering
"Tickle his ribs with your knife" was my favorite🤣
"....tough little men with mouths full of teeth...."
@@terrydean3802 heavy
I bet most people would be surprised that any effective H2H fight should last no more than 30 seconds. Longer than that and Gunny says that you're just dancing around, waiting to die.
Rotfl 🤣
What if you don't have a knife or gun. Takes longer than that to subdue and strangle someone to death
Absolutely! and 30 seconds is a long, long time. In the movies now they prance around beating each other for ten minutes ~ yeah, sure.
"If the fight last more than 30 seconds, run like hell - you're losing."
~ wise old Master Chief.
Each of those seconds feels like a lifetime, you oughta measure fights in milliseconds rather than full seconds. Your brain really goes that fast
As someone who was a competitive fencer on the national level in the 1980s and an instructor for 30 years, I was very interested to watch this video. The Bayonet combat comes directly from modern fencing techniques, with a slightly different stance. The moves have names, the Pasa Soto, is the drop-down hit, and the step backward and thrust is called a ! Quartata. There are eight parries in fencing. The ones used here are the fourth, : quarter, and the third, tierce. The stance is more of the rapier and dagger on guard from the 16th century, but I've practiced that a lot since I was part of the group that started rapier and dagger fencing at the big Renaissance Faire in California in the late 1970s-80s. We used to also do demos with swords against sticks. The most interesting difference is that once defended, the counterattack is done three times instead of making the "touch." But that is also something that could be quickly adapted. A well-trained fencer can adapt to this quickly We also messed around with the quarter staff, same thing. I was a civilian member of the Letterman Army Medical Center Fencing Club on the Presidio of San Francisco until it was closed in 1994. It began as a military club founded by Dr. Willian G. O'Brien, Ph.D. (OSS). West Point used to make fencing a mandatory part of the training there. One of our members was a former West Point army champion. A famous military member was Colonel Brownlee.
all of what i just read is just badASS mate lol
As someone who has done FMA and HEMA for 20 years (among others) I agree. It's pretty good for a crash course for men in boot camp, no? I will have to say fencing with a foil or sword is different from knife fighting, though they share many of the same principles and movements.
Bruce Lee used fencing footwork for the basis of his JKD.
Best civ comment ITT. Props.
Cool info
Every one of the demonstrated movements with the knife/club can be used with a Cold Steel Spetsnaz shovel that comes with sharpened edges. As a bonus point, assuming you are right handed, approached from the rear with the handle placed across the opponent's neck place the shaft of the shovel into the crook of your elbow, place the same side hand on the back of his head and press down, and finally place the shovel blade behind his opposite top of shoulder. This locks the shovel in position in a choke hold and frees your opposite hand to strike/poke eyes, temple, etc. -Mike
My old man taught this in Basic Training. (Ft Jackson, 1956-63) He had an interesting collection of weapons; I think the scariest one was an 8" double edged blade mounted on a heavy aluminum knuckle duster. Bottom of the hilt had a nice spike on it too,
Ah the old trench special
That would've been a novelty item, rather than something issued to soldiers in that era.
USMC 90's 03. Some people are confusing knife fighting with sentry take down, which are very different. Its also important to remember that WWII was 1940 and WWI was 1918, so much of these basics were handed down by those trench fighters, who saw it all.
These methods are assume victory approaches because you only have seconds to fight before someone else shows up.
Exactly right!
First thing I thought of when this popped up, proven fighting technique from the trenches, especially the truncheon, the short club used in the trenches
@@robertfullan731 Clubs and knives don't jam or run out of ammo.
That's why I always have a pocket crossbow for backup. It's silent.
Thanks for the insight 👍. Good information
I remember this training film from my Greek primary school. They always showed such educational programs (postwar U.S. surplus material). Brings back good memories...
Greek primary school taught you to fight with clubs and knives?! Guess being so close to Turks and Communists it really was a good thing!
Jack Jones - Always a good idea for a proper education. 🙂
I would have loved to have been taught this at primary school. However, considering the rivalry between ours and another primary school nearby it's probably just as well we weren't.
Stephen A - 🙂
@@jackjones9460
Oh My God...!
You know YOUR History....!
As a Marine of almost 30 years, I can tell you some of these techniques are still in use today. OoooH Raaah!!
Man, I am so thankful that I live in a world where I don’t have to resort to knife fighting for survival
But in many countries today is this actual
Yet.
Yeah?
Just wait.
But have to resort to nukes for survival!
give it a minute
When I was knife training during martial arts in my youth, the first thing my master said was, "Prepare to get bloodied. Both sides lose in a true knife fight."
Yeah, we did knife fighting with black rubber knives. They left a lot of marks on the white uniforms where you were “cut”. It is sobering. I was a green belt, but thanks to the Old Man growing up in the rough streets of Brooklyn, I knew plenty about handling a knife. I was dominating Black Belts. My only equal was a Brazilian guy (also a green belt). We had a lot of respect for each other and learned the same. Funny how a weapon makes the punch/kick fighting not a factor. Amateurs focus too much on the weapon and not the guy holding it.
Wonder how to prepare to get bloodied?
My instructor said the same thing.
"If you fight with a knife, you WILL bleed. Understand that."
right, my instructor told me that when you see your own blood hitting the pavement, you mentally give up.
As they do in war no matter what. It's just a difference of degrees.
That looks real dangerous, I think I'll stick to the ancient civilian maneuver known as "run away really fast"
Maybe even zig zag incase they know how to throw one. Hopefully, the runnin is done where there are lots of trees.
That strategy will never get you into Valhalla!
Yep. Fight, meet Flight.
@@alexfromukraine373 Live to fight another day, when the odds are even. Can't think the gods would disown you for that.
Don't forget the oil slick, if you run really fast you can moon them on your way out. Psyop tactics.
This is why my weapon of choice is a board with a nail in it. It’s the best of both worlds!
I'm learning so much from these videos! if I somehow get sent back to 1940 i'm going to be prepared to stop tanks, knife fight, shoot to kill ect.
This was so helpful. I'm visiting Japan next month and I was really worried about how to deal with the tough little men and mouths full of teeth.
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Not unless your selected and lucky, they not fully open to public atm...
Surely some of those teeth will be sharp as well so be careful!
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Ah yes, “Tojo Land”
I remember our drill sergeant during hand-to-hand training telling us not use this at a local bar fight.
Knife fighting practice sure has changed over the last 80 years. And like so many before me have pointed out, if you ever find yourself in a knife fight, something has gone horribly wrong.
This is more instructional than the power points we get today...
My dad was in the marines for 5 years before joining the army. He told to never bring a knife to a gun fight. Fighting fair is for fools. Always carry a backup piece.
RIP Dad.
Gary Goofy Grape Gilmer 5th SFG camp A325 Duc Hue Vietnam
So true. Fair fighting IS for fools. Let me pose a question: You have a firearm. It malfunctions as does your backup for whatever reason. Its been known to happen. What then? That is where H to H combat comes into play. My grandfather was one of the dirtiest fighters I've ever known. One thing to do is curl your index finger like it is around a trigger of a gun. Get in close, however you can, take that finger and swing your hand up under the nose of your opponent like you are swinging the barrel of a gun. When you connect, it will cause your opponent to throw his head back like he is looking up. That is when you jump on him and stomp his guts out.
Another dirty trick is to take a closed pocket knife in a closed fist, kind of like a fist load. Place your thumb over top of your fist. Leave a small portion of the knife sticking out of your hand just below your pinky finger. You then pretend to not know how to fight. When your opponent closes in, block whatever punch he throws at you. Use an overhand swing and hit the SOB in the forehead. It will drop him. If you want to really be mean about it, when you block his punch, skip the end of the pocket knife off his forehead. Not only will this drop him, it will tear his forehead open as well. But BEWARE! If you hit him in the forehead too hard, you WILL kill him. These were two tricks he taught me when I asked him to teach me how to fight like he did. Those were the only two he showed me being that what he knew was combat tested and he was afraid I would lose my temper and kill a man. I am six-two at two hundred thirty five pounds. It wouldn't be hard for someone my size. Rest In Peace, grandpa. Semper Fi. Heaven's streets are guarded by United States Marines.
@@daemonwhitebeard6590 DL:DR = your grandad touched you but simper fi , brother.
@@daemonwhitebeard6590 I've never had a misfire or failure to extract / feed happen to me as of yet ( fingers crossed) but I did break a bottle of Texas Pete hot sauce in a guys eyes while we were taking break on my framing crew. He threatened to hit me with his hammer, but he wasn't prepared to follow through with his threat. He permanently lost vision in both eyes. I was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, but the charges were dropped after several people on my crew testified that he threatened me. I guess that if I ever have to pull my pistol out on someone, he's going to be close enough to me to be an actual threat, I'd beat the shit out of him with my pistol. My CZ75 40 cal. is an steel frame. Cheers to you and your grandpa. Semper Fi
Salute tour Dad man
1911s FTW.
My dad fought at Iwo Jima. He was a tough guy. He always said to me; "whenever you are ready son we can go into the back yard". RIP. He died before that could happen.
I guess everyone’s dad said that.. I actually got to go. Not a fist fight, it was more like being attacked by a bull. I got flipped & ribs crushed. Great lesson
wait, so you never went in your backyard growing up?
@@stevew278 He couldn’t. It wasn’t worth it, so he had to play at his friend’s house. ;-)
@@stevew278 don't be crazy. He wanted to fight me in the back yard if I ever felt ready to fight him.
@@williamkazak469 So basically, you killed him in the kitchen?
“Neutralize that blade, grab that wrist and tickle him in the ribs with your blade” is a very subtle way of giving murder instructions 🤣. I love these old instructional videos
Words of wisdom told to me during training: in a knife fight, you WILL get cut. You will get cut several times. In a knife fight, if you want to win, never jab. Go for large muscle groups and try to cut through the femur. However hard you THINK you need to slash, add 10x more pressure and try to not make straight cuts if possiblen especially near the groin.
One thing I think we can deduce from these gold nuggets of information is that "a knee to the crotch" is extremely effective. Duely noted.
14:16 or club em there
21:05 Bonus footage, helmet throw, Dust in the face, spit in the eye.
Yoda would be proud. 💪
Anything that surprises gains you time.
As someone who has done FMA for 20 years, I can say this video is surprisingly good. Very good way to train someone a basic way to defend themselves in a short period. They of course won't be experts by any means but it's very good for average infantry soldier.
What is FMA?
@@gregorylatta8159 Filipino Martial Arts. A lot of edged weaponry.
Bullshit. The techniques were 'borriwed' from classical fencing and do not translate into actual use with a short knife. Nor could they be learned and retained after a short (3 days or less) training.
@@cray9868 And I can say for certain you do not know what you are talking about at all.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972
I know for certain I do.
I love how they word these old films… “Side-step and *tickle him* in the ribs.” “ *To ensure he’s had a good survey* , come down on his nose-bridge, eyes and face.” “A sharp thumb in the eye will *make the enemy wonder what he’s fighting for* “.
Back in the 1970s, at Pendleton then later KC, I was a close combat instructor, a Nidan in Shudokan, and we actually never placed much emphasis on knife fighting. When I went through boot camp, the only instruction we got was to go for "kill" points when the opportunity arose - very little in the way of technique, though. It wasn't until after I had left service did I discover that knife fighting had returned to the training curriculum.
Nidan in Shodokan in the 70s was the real deal. What city to train in LA, Phily?
Probably cuz in ww1 and ww2 there was alot of trench warfare that had been the main focus. Still using bayonets. Not so much in the 70s tho I'd always like to be ready.
@@jhtsurvival I was reading an article about special forces are also using the tomahawk in hand to hand fighting
My dad was a marine in korea in 1950....i lived this film everytime i got home from school from k-10 grade lol
Sounds a little like "The Great Santini"
Man that marine practicing with the club is HUGE.
"It is guaranteed to end his interest in life." That was a beauty of a description of that club move as well as frikkin hilarious!
One thing they didn't teach in boot camp is that if you have time, tie your weapon to your hand. When the blood starts to flow, you wouldn't believe how slippery a knife handle can get. Also it's near impossible to be disarmed with your blade attached, you literally need to be "disarmed"
No one says this thanks
100 PARACHORD ON ALL MY BLADES
If the blood flows, to the point your hand is full and the knife slips out of it, you're probably a goner already...Also, you never know when your life is threatend and you have a knife to fight out, so how are you going to now when it will happen, to be ready? You can't say to your opponent, please wait, I have to tie my knife on me, or otherwise It will slip out of my hand... can you?
@@greekveteran2715 Just because your hand is covered in blood, doesn't mean it's yours. And just because the enemy you're currently fighting is badly wounded, doesn't mean your fight is over.
And he did say, "if you have time." That's an important caveat.
@@RobCalhounPGH Great! Thanks for explaining.God bless!
"A man with a knife is a boxer, only he's playing for keeps" that's a dope line.
How you think about something like this prior to it happening is everything.
My Uncle ran out of ammo fighting around the Frozen Chosin while Chinese overran their foxholes ... He jumped up and started wielding his M1 Garand like a baseball bat. He swears he took out a dozen of them as a whole company ran by him. It turns out that they were more interested in capturing blankets and food than fighting him. He often woke up screaming about "bugles". I cant even imagine what that would be like.
Iv studied Japanese, Chinese, Israeli knife combat and this clip is great . It shortly somes up all the important facts and gets straight to the movements .
Very litle in this video is effective.
“...then release pressure, and follow through”.
If I should find myself in a knife fight with an enemy soldier, you’re damn right I’m going to release pressure and follow through!
and repeat as necessary.
Such a stone cold killer
I enlisted in the Corp in 1969, right out of high school. In hand to hand combat, our DI’s watched the instructor and when we got back to our platoon area, the platoon Sargent got up in front of us and said this: ‘when in a knife fight, look for the opportunity to take your non-knife hand and ram in on your enemy’s knife blade, yup, right through your hand. And then hang on to his hand and knife. This will do two things, 1. It will put his weapon somewhat in your control. 2. You will absolutely instill the fear of the devil in him because not only have you somewhat neutralized his weapon but he will know you are a totally insane US Marine. One last thing was this. When you do that, the enemy will react by pulling back on his knife and you use that momentum to drive your knife up into his chest cavity.
Ahhh, that’s why I love US Marines. To sum it up? “US Marines, We kill people”!
Oh, and don’t ever get in a fight with a Marine, one of you will die.
The last guy ended his opponent rightly with that helmet toss.
a fellow hematist! 😂😂👌👍✌️🤘🖖
just think...
this video was shown to tens of thousands of soldiers,
so at least 1 of them went on to do battle in a 1-on-1 knife fight
and they used (or tried to use) some of this instruction in a true fight to the death!!!
pretty freaky when u realize the potential impact of this video to those who it was intended for
My uncle fought the Japanese on so many islands, he said he didn't remember the names of all of them. He told my mother that there was a lot of hand-to-hand fighting, but never said much more about it. He never talked much, period. He came back home with two bronze stars.
My grandfather said if he wasn’t fighting he was treading water !
Both sides ran out of ammo multiple times and the USMC gained a lot more experience in melee shortly after this documentary was made. A lot of the fundamentals are taught the same (like don't cross your feet, things like that). At some point, they added Weapons of Opportunity as its own independent course. I got out in 2012, but I'm sure the melee classes probably haven't changed since then.
I was trained different in USMC, somewhat. Trained to grip the knife with the blade protruding down below the pinky. Go in close and stab as you hug him. I kinda remember the knife held as a hand gun, but you stand to lose your grip from the knife if hit on the backside of the knife hand, with the blade forward. But I think the blade forward from the hand was taught as a way to fight if the other person had a knife, where the other way they did not. The forward thrust is less effective as opposed to the pulling force of the fighter. Those were KBARS, not bayonets.
Thanks for your service to our great nation Marine.
Yeah, there's a video of WWII British Commando on here talking about how you don't thrust the knife at the opponent, but grab him and pull him onto the blade. You don't get put off balance as much, you retain control of the blade - and as you said, pulling's a lot more force than thrusting.
I joined the USMC in 1985 and was taught the same. Hold with blade below pinky. Approach from behind, low, below his line of vision. Lock free arm around his neck, pulling back while raking down the inside of his calf with the inside of your boot. This brings him down with his throat exposed, while you pull your knife hand across his throat.
Semper Fi.
Did you get to keep your Kabar?
@@pointingdog7235 Yes Sir, I have it. The smaller aviator version. I was Air Crew. Semper Fi Devil Dog!
Served as a Infantryman, 11Bravo and I'll never forget bayonet training!!! What makes the grass grow ladies "blood,blood,blood !! And later I served in a Pathfinder unit and all my NCOs were Rangers and they taught us lower enlisted guys knife fighting and hand to hand combat !!!
I had a captain who had been both a sergeant and MAC-V/SOG during the Vietnam War. “Everything is a weapon for a man whose mind is right.”
My favorite part is the "Come Along". Pure gold.
Hollywood and Police Academy, the opponents don't move.. Any soldier should do these : (1) Never lose your gun, make sure it fires. (2) Always hide from the enemy, never face off. (3) Only attack from behind or by surprise. Then you may survive. 😎
The only smart advice ive found in this comment section lol.
And don't forget, if you are in a fair fight your tactics suck.
that sound logical
@Ms Bliss i think youre missing the point of his comment. Yea, if u come face to face u gotta do what u gotta do, but unless your family is gonna die if you give the enemy ground, theres no point tryna be tough and go on the offensive. The smartest soldier kills effortlessly while in no danger. U hav fun charging into gunfire with a club tho lol. I'll happily run, swim or crawl back to base with my tail between my legs and get another gun lol.
What's that sun stzu quote? Only fight if you've already won or something like that.
We were taught that the best weapon of last resort was the entrenching tool.
i prefer a sharp machete or tactical tomahawk
Anything but a knife or a rock In my opinion.
I'd use an empty rifle to beat the Enemy with a knife.
blow dart gun with explosive tips..
Just got an in trench ing tool romanian surplus bring it on
I prefer a plasma rifle, in the 40 watt range.
These old films have some funny sayings in them. Like the club fighting part, "hit him in the bridge of the nose, guaranteed to end his interest in life" 😂
Damn, war is really scary. It's crazy to think about watching demonstrations to teach you how to fight for your life, knowing you're definitely going to have to fight for your life soon.
I was showing my mother this and she had an excellent question. The narrator, it seems no matter what Era, this one man is ALWAYS the narrator. Who IS this LEGEND? I understand that the older technology can make some people sound similar but this guy's voice is unmistakable.
I agree I hear this voice in so many things, but I genuinely think it comes down to their tone/accent or how they spoke then. Many many men sounded like this if you listen to recordings
Its the trans atlantic accent
@@jericodawsonmarcos7529 ya I couldn't think of the name for it, kept thinking Atlantic something. Thank you
You weren't hired for voiceovers unless you could speak in that style, speed and cadence. Hence the "narrator man" voice. Edit: plus they all smoked and their voice had that old timey creosote tone.
I prefer a Bayonet and Taught that and Hand to Hand to Recruits as a D.I. @ MCRD San Diego, then taught Weapons and Tactics at Camp Pendleton. That was Camp San Onofre in a unit we called RFTD (Recruit Field Training Instructor). I ran every Range the 'Corps had as a D.I., from 1981-1984. If you went there at that time frame, you had me as your Instructor! My AR-15/M-4 has a Custom mount for my M-7 Bayonet! BUT with the amount of ammo I have .... Never bring a Knife to a Gun Fight! While this is Super Basic, and I can point out many flaws... Just remember your Opponent Never stays still, so you can practice, like is seen here! LOL THROAT folks! Always go for that!
Oorah!!! Thank you for your service brother have a blessed day God bless you and yours
Drive your bayonet through their skull Rah
this is some of the best training you can get. old school.
Thank you guys from north america that post these stuff, it got me saved in brasilian street not once or twice, and it all started with FM!
As a marine corps veteran of the modern Era, I Give this classic motivational video a thumbs up and a big ooooorah!
Get some! 💪😎
You wasted a portion of your life lmao
Rock on Devil! 🤘
The next guy who charges me with a bayonet is so screwed.
Club 'em like a baby seal!
The thing is it also depends on the knives involved. I collect them and some of them have odd shaped blades, some have weighted tips for throwing, some are longer or shorter than others, some have brass knuckles. These all change the fighting style.
they all rotate, weighted or not. Throw a hammer!
I just can't help but wonder about these Marines in the film and their time in the corps. Semper Fidelis.
The Marine Corps and Army learned to respect blades in the 1899-1913 Philippine war and this film was produced within living memory of those times. In close quarters rifles are slow to get into action and small caliber pistols won't penetrate cotton wrapped steel body armor. Moro Juramentado's swordsmen with blades no longer than shown here were nearly unstoppable if they got within twenty feet before springing their ambush, sometimes killing a whole squad and escaping into the bush alive. Modern cops are taught to draw fast and shoot down a knifeman that tries to approach because if he closes the cop has no chance.
Hi, could you provide a source for this? Like cotton padded armor being worn upon metal plate armor? Cortez' conquistadores wore cotton padded armor, back engineered from the native warriors, but only a few of their horses had plate armor. A combination of the two I've never heard of, outside of Europe, and certainly not so lately in history.
@@lucacremonini5731 Hi, do you really want something for nothing? Google is sometimes worthwhile.
@@NemoBlank you’re the one making the claim. So he has to do extra work to verify if you’re full of BS or not?
@@RibanRox No you Fing idiot, all he has to do is google Juramentado. Do you want a book report too?
@@RibanRox If I said 'George Washington was an American,' would I be making a claim? Look it up yourself, you mutt.
Yep, in the '80's the Corps trained us a little differently but it's still that same attitude - "One mind and weapon"
its interesting how this techniques can be found in many other sword based martial arts (HEMA, Kendo, fencing)
My dad served in WW2 in the south pacific on the island of Ulithe. A local island native dubbed "Renfro" was quite adroit with a machete against the Japanese enemy. He could also shimmy up a coconut tree likety split.