13/20!!!! For the only team to beat elite battle. Come on! I think need to re-evaluate scoring for battles. There should be a fixed amount of points for just winning the battle. And afterwards consideration for losses. Also, glad you went with my defedning onea own keep suggestion. I reckon the 2 tile moat hugely helped fortress which is what i wanted to see
It works out pretty well I think. Fixed amount of points for winning would make huge differences in battles where the difference between losing and winning was small. Fortress is great vs Elite, that's exactly what see in game
@@Allkon just read the blink and you miss it blurb and there are points awarded for a victory so my bad. that said, take away mighty gorgons, elites would slaughter fortress. they carried the faction
I like Fortress, has 2 amazing units (dragon flies and Mighty gorgons) and 3 very useful units (Lizards, basilisks and hydras). Also gives you that extra motivation to buy that resource silo early.
Ooof, that siege attack. Poor Hydras! Also, the horde battle is theoretically where a Hydra should shine, but it just wasn't the optimal choice vs AI. Elites? AI Faery Dragons went for the Hydras, as usual... but that wasn't the threat. Mighty Gorgons did work. If they weren't feared that first turn, they'd have wiped out the Azures right off. They didn't even need someone to absorb the retaliation. Mighty Gorgons carry this roster for sure, just seeing how it works like this. The Hydra did pretty well against Ranged though, and eventually great on the siege defense.
I'm surprised that Fortress lost the siege, I think there was more that could be done in this battle ( dragon flies could use red dragons to attack their own units, there was a perfect bait for that ). Also vs horde, the positioning of units could be better, Hydra was blocked barely all the time while it could be used more often as it has bigger speed than the horde, but that's just an idea, don't know how it would work... And finally - creme de la créme : that lizardmen vs missle 😂 That was hillarious, you made my day 🤣
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Yeah, some mistakes are unavoidable, we are only humans after all :) Good job anyway, Fortress still gained a lot of ranking points 😉
I always thought fortress was trash. I still think fortress is trash. I love Rampart and castle. Rampart because of strong lvl 1 units (centaurs), and castle because of super good build path and strong units. 10 week production stacks don't mean anything to me - but I don't play the game online, so I don't know the meta. I just play against computers and try to clear the maps as fast as possible. Clearing maps in minimum amount of time is all about getting maximum amount of results with minimum amount of units available to you. Fast and strong units are quite valuable, since fast units allow you to move farther on the map. Also ability to conquer castles is quite valuable: flying lvl 7 units help with this a lot. etc. So, to me, fortress is still trash: it's difficult to clear out the map early using fortress units.
Great videos. Gorgons going beastmode for fortress in all fights vs tier7 . I dont think the part vs gnolls and those big stacks og peasants are very entertaining. Its just kiting and they never really come close vs any faction. I dont really understand why they money money and speed parts should award so many points.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, that vs Horde is a bit repetitive. About money. Imo there are two main constraints for an army: time and money. Imo both must be included. However, it is debatable to which degree :)
Let's make a thought experiment. It would be about 578 VLs: Castle Attack - they can abuse AI --> Victory Vs. Horde - They can outpace units --> Victory Vs. Elite - If corner-camping works --> Vicotry Vs. Missile might be difficult because of Titans Vs. Army - Likely victory because of corner camping Castle Defense - the same Then again in the campaign it might be quite a trick to get about 70 weeks worth of Vampire Lords :) Thanks for the comment.
Awesome score vs Elite. Probably the only one town who would won with them. Gloria for my fav town! :)
Thanks for the comment. Yea, that was even a bit surprising result but really nice :)
Great work with the comparison table! It helps compare more aspects than just total score
Thank You! And agreed :)
My second most favorite faction behind Stronghold. I just love their aesthetics and "might" combat.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, playing with Fortress requires some micro to shine :)
Fortress was the first faction I played when I was first introduced to HOMM3. Glad to see them do well
Yea, they did surprisingly well imo : )Thanks for the comment.
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu ty for doing all of these. Shame about Stronghold.
13/20!!!! For the only team to beat elite battle. Come on! I think need to re-evaluate scoring for battles. There should be a fixed amount of points for just winning the battle. And afterwards consideration for losses.
Also, glad you went with my defedning onea own keep suggestion. I reckon the 2 tile moat hugely helped fortress which is what i wanted to see
It works out pretty well I think. Fixed amount of points for winning would make huge differences in battles where the difference between losing and winning was small. Fortress is great vs Elite, that's exactly what see in game
@@Allkon just read the blink and you miss it blurb and there are points awarded for a victory so my bad. that said, take away mighty gorgons, elites would slaughter fortress. they carried the faction
@@aaronmadders true, they are MVP. If carried by human, Elite would crash Fortress as they do with other fractions
@@Allkon although the AI was totally avoided them. if they AI was smart they'd target them from the start, take some losses and win the match
Thanks for the comment. Yea, they do get automatically practically 11 points for victory :)
I like Fortress, has 2 amazing units (dragon flies and Mighty gorgons) and 3 very useful units (Lizards, basilisks and hydras). Also gives you that extra motivation to buy that resource silo early.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, Dragon Fly speed is rather nice in the early game :)
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu And they are very resilient too don't get wiped out quickly like other fast low level units.
@@Parasmunt And the dispel + weakness is nice. Though imo they are not tanky :) Thanks for the comment.
Ooof, that siege attack. Poor Hydras! Also, the horde battle is theoretically where a Hydra should shine, but it just wasn't the optimal choice vs AI. Elites? AI Faery Dragons went for the Hydras, as usual... but that wasn't the threat. Mighty Gorgons did work. If they weren't feared that first turn, they'd have wiped out the Azures right off. They didn't even need someone to absorb the retaliation. Mighty Gorgons carry this roster for sure, just seeing how it works like this. The Hydra did pretty well against Ranged though, and eventually great on the siege defense.
Yea, that vs. Elite was quite impressive. :) Thanks for the comment.
I'm surprised that Fortress lost the siege, I think there was more that could be done in this battle ( dragon flies could use red dragons to attack their own units, there was a perfect bait for that ).
Also vs horde, the positioning of units could be better, Hydra was blocked barely all the time while it could be used more often as it has bigger speed than the horde, but that's just an idea, don't know how it would work...
And finally - creme de la créme : that lizardmen vs missle 😂 That was hillarious, you made my day 🤣
Thanks for the comment. Yea, mistakes were made. Then again, imo rather evenly on most of the tests ;)
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Yeah, some mistakes are unavoidable, we are only humans after all :) Good job anyway, Fortress still gained a lot of ranking points 😉
I always thought fortress was trash. I still think fortress is trash. I love Rampart and castle. Rampart because of strong lvl 1 units (centaurs), and castle because of super good build path and strong units. 10 week production stacks don't mean anything to me - but I don't play the game online, so I don't know the meta. I just play against computers and try to clear the maps as fast as possible. Clearing maps in minimum amount of time is all about getting maximum amount of results with minimum amount of units available to you. Fast and strong units are quite valuable, since fast units allow you to move farther on the map. Also ability to conquer castles is quite valuable: flying lvl 7 units help with this a lot. etc.
So, to me, fortress is still trash: it's difficult to clear out the map early using fortress units.
Thanks for the comment. Agreed. I have to admit that the results here were quite a surprise for me :)
Gorgons wiped the battle field with those dragons 😂
Yea, they did surprisingly well there :) Thanks for the comment.
>When defence castle not best in defence
Indeed. Though, their army is quite a bit cheaper :) Thanks for the comment.
Great videos. Gorgons going beastmode for fortress in all fights vs tier7 . I dont think the part vs gnolls and those big stacks og peasants are very entertaining. Its just kiting and they never really come close vs any faction. I dont really understand why they money money and speed parts should award so many points.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, that vs Horde is a bit repetitive. About money. Imo there are two main constraints for an army: time and money. Imo both must be included. However, it is debatable to which degree :)
Gorgon mvp.
Indeed :) Thanks for the comment.
M(VP)ighty Gorgon lol
Well put :D Thanks for the comment.
I am just curious. What if we use all the money to buy vampire lords. Will it survive ...?
Let's make a thought experiment. It would be about 578 VLs:
Castle Attack - they can abuse AI --> Victory
Vs. Horde - They can outpace units --> Victory
Vs. Elite - If corner-camping works --> Vicotry
Vs. Missile might be difficult because of Titans
Vs. Army - Likely victory because of corner camping
Castle Defense - the same
Then again in the campaign it might be quite a trick to get about 70 weeks worth of Vampire Lords :) Thanks for the comment.