Is a 2030 World Cup Across 6 Countries a Bad Idea? ⚽ Simon Jordan and Martin Keown Debate! 🔥
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Portugal, Spain and Morocco joining bids makes sense. Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay doing a joint bid makes sense. All 6 combining is mental.
They’d need to make sure the teams in these first games in South America, play their next ones in Spain. Be easier for the fans as well that. There is already regular direct flights between all South American countries and Spain. It’s well connected. I think it’s only from Madrid and Barcelona, so rhe games would need to be there. Madrid will be using two stadiums and Barcelona will be using two as well, so shouldn’t be hard to allocate that. Also these teams should be given a few extra days rest as well compared to others. It can certainly be made easier logistically, but doesn’t get away from the fact it’s still a long flight, and I imagine expensive as well. Also different time zones. But it is only 3 games and the first ones. South America are only hosting around 2% of the games.
Morocco is not safe,
I thought the whole point of hosting a World Cup is to have the privilege of showing off your own country's culture, facilities, and obviously making a bag of bunce. Having it hosted by several countries merely waters it down for the hosts...and makes it uber expensive for the fans.
No country wants to host a world cup all by itself because they see the mess Brazil got themselves into. The WC would cease to exist if it didn't span multiple countries.
Bruh.
There’s gonna be 48 teams!
Not many country’s are gonna have the infrastructure of managing so many teams & fanbases mate…
Even the Richest country ever, USA, are sharing the World Cup with 2 other countries
@@KINGKING10109 Here's an idea. Keep it to 32 nations and play the tournament in one country? What next, 96 nations in 12 host nations? The only people benefiting are FIFA...what a shocker!
@@garywallace5602 Mate, you gotta realise we live in a capitalist society, not a socialist/communist society.
At the end of the day, football is a Buisness.
They need to make money too.
Look at the crazy wages modern players are on and the crazy transfer fees the clubs are spending.
One minute you fans complain that your clubs don’t spend enough money to improve your team and then you complain about the very same businesses that create the revenue streams that the clubs need in order to spend more money on the team in the first place…🤣
In this life, Nothing is Free!
They have to generate more money to fund the game from somewhere mate.
More teams= More games = More Sales/sponsors = More money = More Buying players
@@KINGKING10109Sports washing is fine with you then? I bet you enjoyed the Qatar fiasco, sorry, World Cup.
Football stopped being for the every day person a while back, they talk about letting more fans and countries experience it but really with so few games only the rich and ultra wealthy will get tickets as well as the "influencers" and youtubers. The people who actually go to games regularly will probably not get tickets it's a product now not a sport.
it sucks, end of travelling fans being able to set up camp and stay there for the entirety of the competition. no identity for the world cup either, 2010 world cup had so much personality being centered on one country
They making World Cup Unaffordable now its Elitist Tournament
Yes it’s a horrible idea. Should be 2 co hosts max.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Strange decision on the face of it, but not when you consider by having the WC2030 in South America, Europe & Africa, means by FIFA's own rules the following WC cannot be in the continent of the previous tournament.
Meaning the 2034 WC can only be in Asia, Australia/NZ or the middle east.
Considering after the Qatar WC FIFA said yes why not Saudi Arabia for a WC, now like a photograph slooshing around in a tray of chemicals, in a darkroom lit only by a redlight, the true picture is becoming clearer & clearer.
Keown is right here - Jordan too stuffy
Nobody cares anymore........The World cup was extremely interesting and enjoyable when it was Italians v French or Brazilians v English etc....... we now live in a mixed up hodge podge of a world where a player can declare for multiple countries and all major domestic leagues have multiple nationalities.
Its an idea from a bygone era.
Are you trying to say that the world cup is outdated and irrelevant? Lol WOW
Australia and New Zealand should be hosting 2034 World Cup.
The only way Aus & NZ will host a men's world cup is if no other country wants it. The main reason the women's cup was in Aus & NZ because countries like Japan pulled out of bidding and only Colombia was the only other bidder.
Nah Saudi is better
Why not Uruguay ? asks the ‘Arsenal invincible’.
Because a country with a population of just 3.4 million could never do a modern World Cup.
Why do we have to endure his regular appearances on here ?
Its not a bad idea its a terrible idea. Players welfare and the entegrity of the game sold off for a few million
Simons smug little argument at the end about what type of injury doesn't hold any ground, surely if more games are played, then the chances of ANY injury go up just by proxy of it being a contact sport.
no longer a competition, just an exhibition...
I think the only thing that can save this would be the implementation of Alan’s “soccer meter”, it would also help if FIFA used Alan’s colour codings.
I don't know I even care anymore, Qatar World Cup, 3 Countries for 2026, Expansion from 32 to 48 teams, now potentially this. All heading in a bad direction.
is it just me or a=is anyone else getting SIMON JORDAN FATIGUE?
Its not what you say its how you say it and his head is geting really big
which host nation would get a pass to the finals?
All 6
Gianni Infantino needs to get all votes, so its all 6 teams.
They’d need to make sure the teams in these first games in South America, play their next ones in Spain. Be easier for the fans as well that. There is already regular direct flights between all South American countries and Spain. It’s well connected. I think it’s only from Madrid and Barcelona, so rhe games would need to be there. Also these teams should be given a few extra days rest as well compared to others. It can certainly be made easier logistically, but doesn’t get away from the fact it’s still a long flight. Also different time zones.
For a change I agree with Martin
Qatar not looking so bad, now. 😂😂😂
Qatar was great
It's only summer in the northern hemisphere during Jun, July, August. What about the leagues and their players that have to mid season break in the "summer" world cups
Europeans never cared
Meanwhile I'm been told to reduce my own carbon footprint
of course its a bad idea but do they care, they care not as Simon would say
1:47 that look 😂👌
They (or actually Gianni Infantino) did this so that the 2034 WC goes to Asia and we all know what this means
Spain, Portugal and Morocco can work logistically but South America? Who comes up with this?
one country is best, we say South Africa 2010, Brazil 2014, Morocco Spain Portugal Uruguay etc 2030😂
It doesn’t seem fair to ask 6 teams to play one of their games in entirely different conditions (altitude), to ask them to undergo extra travel during the tournament and to deal with jet lag when none of the other teams will have to deal with any of that. Those 6 teams will be disadvantaged
Solid shout from Sam at the end loool
If I were any of those countries from SA then I'd be very very worried about the next 2 group games they would have to face. Travelling thousands of miles and then having to try and acclimatise would be no easy feat....not that FIFA bigwig muppets would take that into account. Have it in one or two countries at most. Its the fans who have to suffer the most paying extra flight and hotel costs
I like listening to this pod cast. I do think Simon is regurgitating his rhetoric and should stand down. Give a neutral a chance to change the mood of this negative views
Only 3 games for God sake and games for national teams there . The rest will be played in the hosting countries
Y'all are really mad just to be mad, the facts are there were 2 bids, one from Spain morocco and Portugal and the other from Uruguay Chile Argentina and Paraguay. South America would've never won the bid because africa and Europe would vote on the joint bid of Spain Portugal and morocco, but because it'll be the 100th anniversary they still wanted to include Uruguay, that's why they'll play the first 3 games in South America, after 10 days is when those South American countries will play their 2nd game in morocco Spain or Portugal meaning enough time to get used to the countries the world cup will be held in.
The World Cup as we knew it when glory was king, is dead. 48 team tournaments now, 3,4,5 different countries hosting at once. It's a disgrace actually.
Last minute Simon just annihilated Martin badly
I have no issue of world cup in saudi but i do have an issue of world cup in 6 countries specially when your going from South America then to europe
Only thing FIFA cares about is money.
does that mean 6 opening ceremonies and 6 closing ceremonies?
Soon as Gareth the drip starts talking I switch off
imagine paying all that money
It's very obviously a stupid idea.
The only reason its across 3 continents is for Saudi Arabia to get it in 2034. I made a short on this on my channel in regards to this. There is no integrity at FIFA hence why they've done this.
So, you think FIFA is trying to get us to hate multi-country (or multi-continent) tournaments so much that we'll be yearning for one in a single country (which would be the next one in Saudi Arabia in 2034)?
No buddy, it's their rules, basically a continent can't host a tournament if it's held one in the previous 3 world cups. So by process of elimination only one continent can host in 2034. @@TheEyeball37
Who does it benefit to have the world cup in the winter in between the football league.....no one really but what it does mean is the club's with the deepest squads are more likely to come out the other end in a better fashion. So essentially it benefits Man City.....what a coincidence!
Interesting 😮
Y'all are really mad just to be mad, the facts are there were 2 bids, one from Spain morocco and Portugal and the other from Uruguay Chile Argentina and Paraguay. South America would've never won the bid because africa and Europe would vote on the joint bid of Spain Portugal and morocco, but because it'll be the 100th anniversary they still wanted to include Uruguay, that's why they'll play the first 3 games in South America, after 10 days is when those South American countries will play their 2nd game in morocco Spain or Portugal meaning enough time to get used to the countries the world cup will be held in.
I bet you that the three games in South America will each involve one south American side.
No need to bet. That's the plan.
Martin Keown face sometimes reminds me of Jimmy from Quadrophenia.
UEFA should step in and get all the European clubs together for summer world cups only the disruption to the leagues shouldnt be tolerated by the leagues and neither the sponsors of the Premier League and so on. If im sponsoring Utds kit I want my sponsorship being viewed for a set amount of months not all squashing together and I also think even before that world cup players in the Prem wasnt committing to their games because they didnt want to pick up an injury before the world cup and then they all come back and have to restart the season its a disaster for our leagues and it will only mean teams like Man City will be the ones always there because of the strength of the squad. Its unfair to teams further down the table if their star players get injured...
Keown doesn’t half make himself look silly sometimes
"They don't consider the fans" by bringing games to fans across more countries. Martin Keown in an absolute helmet.
Will all these countries qualify as hosts?
Yes
no its classed as european so be a while before europe gets it again @@vincenzoriccio5036
Crazy thing it will be England flying to Paraguay to play there then fly to Morocco to play Algeria.
I'd say that 100th anniversary give it Uruguay the first winners.
Problem solved move on.
Is the irony lost on anybody that a failed ex football club owner is trying to lecture a ex player on injuries?
Next we'll have the World Cup every 2 years. Money rules !
Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. World Cup is a summer tournament end of. You keep it simple because it will benefit the players and the supporters, that’s why.
Summer for who? You realize that Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, combined winners of 10 world cups, have winter in June/July? This is just a eurocentric view, it's called the WORLD cup, not the Europe cup.
Im against it because theres going to be a group of players that will be screwed with the travel
The WC in middle east will never work, mid season ruins the leagues. Also you'll stadiums full of arab fans instead of nationals
How have these three went straight from talking about 2030 being in three continents to Saudi Arabia bidding for 2034 and still not put two and two together?
What do you mean? Can you please spell it out?
@@TheEyeball37 Saudi Arabia want to host the World Cup but by FIFA's own rules would have faced a long wait before an Asian country was eligible to host after Qatar 2022. Thanks to FIFA conveniently giving 2030 to three different continents, Asia is now one of only two continents along with Oceania who are eligible to host in 2034.
Who cares about hosting. Its the 48 team World Cup and 32 team Euros thats the death of the competition.
Brazil vs Monserrat
France vs San Marino etc.
Keown is the 1 speaking from 1 side only
The fans will still travel, obsessive tribalism. Such a huge chunk of sports fans who should be objecting morally with a capacity to push for change and avoid these silly ideas is untapped.
I back Keown yet again, keep the tournament in one country
Sometimes its very difficult for me to watch how SJ makes Keown look thick.
Just don’t travel to the World Cup in 2030. Watch it at home on TV instead. Indeed, maybe just don’t travel at all to any World Cup in future, and watch it at home or in the local park, pub, etc. or, if people are so worried about their carbon footprint, then don’t hold the World Cup at all in future. The same applies to any other sporting or other international event. There is no way you can make travel totally environmentally friendly at all, certainly for long distances, as there are no alternatives to fossil fuels at all, and certainly not in the near future.
And installing air conditioning in huge buildings like football stadia must have a huge carbon footprint as well.
Is the ex Arsenal defender a bit simple ?
Stopped watching international football years ago
If I recall there was a Saudi family that does big air conditioning projects. Bin something. Bin baden maybe.
Not many people will see a world cup in there own country (attending matches in person) in a life time (those born after 1966), but I can see sense in co-hosting via 3 countries with a direct border neighbouring country on the same continent if one particular country was asked to be the main host (England)................from either France, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Ireland, Norway, Scotland Northern Ireland, Wales...............or maybe this is all Boll*cks anyway and we should stick with our summer tournement in one country.......... who can trust FIFA officials anyway?
Simon is actually spiteful with it. Pretty evident more game time = more injuries. The way he jumped down Keowns throat
I find hes spiteful with every topic that doesnt suit his agenda
First time i properly noticed it as Keown was so calm. Proper odd @@robertdavidgriffiths2776
He made a valid point questioning that hypothesis
calls the the EP an orc LOL
Again with the porn spam keep reporting it
Nobody MAKES fans travel. Don't like, don't go.
smatter face isn't as good as Jim
Long as it ain’t Middle East again like everything else
Neville will support it if he gets paid a ton of cash.
By the way watch out for the opening ritual I mean ceremony celebrating the new normal you'll own nothing and 15 minutes is far enough 2030 agenda
Surely the lesson of the Qatar World Cup is to be open to doing things a little differently and then judge it afterwards? From a fan experience point of view it turned out to be probably one of the best ever.
This is completely different though.
@@ashtton_tapiwa I'm pretty sure that's what they said, both when Qatar was awarded the world cup and when it was decided it was going to be in the winter.
Well said . People have narrow mind these days
No, that’s just not true. The football on the pitch was some of the best we’ve seen, but the fan experience of fans who attended the world cup was mediocre at best. I’m assuming from your response you weren’t there?
From a fan’s perspective at the event itself, Germany and Brazil far exceeded Qatar, which at times felt soulless. It is probably unfair to expect Qatar to have compared to Germany and Brazil - they are hotbeds of football heritage, full of entertainment, excellent public transport and there was so much to do in the time away from the matches.
@@KH-yz8rq If by soulless you mean hotels that look like palaces and zero violent crime, then sign me up. I'm going back to the gulf region in the new year and I can't wait.
It’s a ridiculous idea. Totally impractical and immoral
Keown on fire as usual 🙄😂😂
how he gets paid to talk when he is clueless is beyond me... unless it's for the comedy value!
@@dutchgrass another merse
Sunderland AFC 👑.
Keown just says what most people think and feel be honest.
Do I have to attend 3/4 games
….no i pay for what I can attend . None of this for the fans rubbish
Its only 3 games in South America people need to chill
This was done so the South Americans for the World Cup the Saudis will get. They want the Saudi bid to be unopposed
no because Fifa already stated only asian and oceania countries will qualify for 2034
@@hustler666100why do you think they stated that after lol
that was announced 2022@@hi-ls6lt
Well said Martin.
Simon playing Mr Big Brain, contrarian is really STALE.
3 COUNTRIES? STFUcomoate snd contrast with empirical data...does Simon think that makes him bright?
Euro 2020 worked out well. It was a pan-European tournament and only the final was in England. It's a good idea imho and FIFA seldom has good ideas.
The show’s never as good without Jim
HILARIOUS that whoever is presenting plus Simon Jordan ALWAYS pick on Martin Keown and have a problem/issue with ANYTHING he says.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think Jordan is a loose cannon and does not represent the positives about football. We do need a change. Hes causing division tbh and his rhetoric is not good
Actually it isnt funny. Jordan is pushing with his own narrative and I dont think hes no longer soccer friendly. Hes causing division and needs to be replaced
@@robertdavidgriffiths2776 I always love it when it's Jim, Simon and Martin Keown because Jim ALWAYS sides with Simon and I personally DO find it amusing!!
Same thing when Robbie from AFTV was on defending his TH-cam channel and a lot of the times Graeme Souness was on. I must say that Simon saying whatever he did about some higher-up up talkSPORT probably not being the smartest thing that's ever come out of his mouth however.
@@andrewforeman2168 I'm a supporter of football. Simon Jordan tries to enforce the narrative unfortunately so many supporters who cannot see past this think SJ is God
@@robertdavidgriffiths2776 well your entitled to your own opinion just as much as anyone else. I don't see him as a God but more someone who's EXTREMELY well educated that generally speaking knows what's he's talking about.
He does find it hard to accept he was wrong if he's asked to predict the outcome of something that didn't go the way he said it would but he's only human!!
it's a worldcup for a reason, other countries are allowed to bid. The competition is not only meant for europe.
Stupid comment, in the last 13 years and 4 world cups it’s been in Europe once, Russia in 2018, and Russia is half in Asia! Qatar 2022, Russia 2018, Brazil 2014, South Africa 2010.
Obviously it should be able to be held anywhere, and should be held in one country. Now that sounds like a great idea, wonder where it came from!
@@HJKR999 my comment is based on what Martin was saying, maybe you should listen first
Martin Keown sounds like a bitter hater ffs. The UAE put on one of the best WC we have ever seen, they spent whatever they wanted and were prepared to, to make sure it was 10/10, and he's saying it was over the top. "Did all the 100 players that are injured go to the World Cup" loool
How many migrants on minimum wage died making it happen?
When did the UAE host the World Cup?
At least get the country right mate ffs not that hard
2:42 “ why we travelling all around the world to do that”…it is called the World Cup tbf
Simon Jordan , just different class
congrats to another DICTATOR getting another wolrd cup because of this...
This is an example of when tradition holds people back. Why keep it in 1 country now that it's so easy to travel? Might seem different or confusing but as long as getting tickets are easy enough whys it a problem? More countries covered means a better chance for more international attending fans
BTW who thought of putting keown and Jordan in the same room, absolutely brilliant smart vs dumb
It across two continents mate bit different than a few countries. Doesn't make sense.
@@luke-ti3fu It's f*cking 3 games out of everything. They are not going to put Germany vs Australia in South america.
People cry for nothing
@luke-ti3fu continents/countries doesn't make a difference. I don't see what's bad about giving more of the world a chance to watch the wc. I get it's not good for certain ceo types who want full profits from it rather than letting the money spread but as fans who has never had a chance to go, I'm all for it
Don't think the travel and notable time zone differences would effect the quality of play? Don't apply for a job a t Fifa @@ashwilliams4959
@@luke-ti3fu if you are referring to Africa & Europe then the distance between Spain and Morocco isn't even half of the distance between France & England . Literally 14 km
Another crap idea 🙄
I remember when they announced format euro 2020 years ago and so many people were outraged that so many countries host games.
In reality it played out just fine . If it’s just 3 games then crack on
The corruption and profiteering from this organisation knows no bounds. And we are meant to believe there isn't corruption in the PL.
Gianni Infantino was voted in by illiberal and authoritarian countries. Premier League doesn't work that way, plus if there was corruption the FA can interfere, or the government.
Wouldn't a South American world cup work?
how about Uruguay hosting the World Cup. and Greece hosting the Olympic Games from now on ,and for evermore until the end of time . hallelujah
Uruguay shoud be the unprejudiced avenue here since they are the inaugural world cup winners