That was Sounds, a show broadcast on Saturday afternoons in Australia. Donnie Sutherland was a local DJ but hosted the SU show from the 70s to the 80s. It was always worth putting on as they did stray from the top 40 and he was a good presence to see. Find, if you can, his similar interview with John Cooper Clarke from around the same time.
Donnie Sutherland had his own pop sinlgle hit. So he understood what it took. Unfortunately he also lost his brother at an early age as well which kept him grounded.
Master Bates All great bands, but in the grand scheme of things...only Joy Division were at the same level as The Fall. And I’m saying this as a massive fan of all those bands.
One of them.to be fair..John copper Clark is my fav tho makes me laugh about more ..but love the fall and find mark funny as .people find him scary in the music world .it was too easy to shock .he loved that. Played up to it big Time..he ain't no different to old school guys ya meet in pubs and on building sites .there is always a small guy with a tounge of venom ..and damn he is funny .one of a kind in the music business. We need more of this again ..think for ya selfs .and be honest. That is what I have always taken from mark .and dont give a fk
The interviewer is great, I have seen him before, when you clock him you fear the worst but not that bad at all and seems to have knowledge of his subjects.
Mad Cyril He makes it about them and isn't asking redundant questions (like influences on why them formed) But asks them what they are doing with their success...he is a phenomenal interviewer I have seen so far.
The Pop Chart TV shows of Australia, from 1970-90, were amazingly accepting of the most avant garde and l'etranger groups around, a breadth of acceptance beyond down under.
Donnie Sutherland is such a cool interviewer. You can see they totally warm to him in the end despite the nervousness because he's such a no-bullshit genuine fella.
must admit at first glance i made the mistake of thinking this was going to be a cheesy interview.....but the reviewer is fantastic....complementary, says sorry at one point for speaking over Mark E smith....and is just nice and honest....and it looks like both the Marks seem alright with him by the end of the interview......great footage.
+Ady Cardiac I've come across this guy before and he is absolutely great isn't he? Just perfect for me. Although at first look you think it's going to be cheesey.
Donnie Sutherland your welcome....is this actually Donnie or just someone representing him?....as i have heard that Donnies health has not been too great.
Considering what happened the night before I think that this interview is well conducted by all involved! - Marc and Mark had a set-to and it had ended with Riley punching Smith.
Thanks for uploading- "Live at the Family Inn" ...sounds great... Strange to see Mark disarmed by niceness & the prospect of hearing 'container driver' followed by the Divynals
"We don't even know what we're going to do after this" - Mark E. Smith still angry from the night before, pondering whether to kick Marc out of the band or possibly split up the band right there.
Marc Riley... night before the interview he punched Mark E Smith in the eye, gave him a shiner (only slightly visible in this footage) and was consequently thrown out of the band.
They were playing later at 'The Family Inn'..Not that I eve been there especially since it was too far from my home, but now that I live in another state, I checked Google to see if that place was still operating, and it was...
Smith's mind had obviously gone to pittle by the time of his interview/autobiography. He reckons it was Deep Purple they were dancing to. That whole book reads like the memoirs of Aldridge Prior from Viz. Half remembered but hilarious bollocks. That book is brilliant. It's the comprehensive 'man down the pub' simulator. Buy some Lidl beer and kick back.
@@ennbee2051 Think so. Some good bits. The Edinburgh years sound like he was happy as. His acrimony towards ex members is phenomenal. The American lads he worked with probably knew not to hang around too long.
Yeah that actually was one of the best interviews I've seen. You look at the interviewer and the Fall and you think they just ain't gonna connect. But hey presto; never seen Mark E look so chuffed.
Donnie you did great service to music. Thank you for your influence on me. I still enjoy music your brought to my attention these many decades latter. I award you a koala stamp.
I've been reading Steven Hanleys (bass) book on The Fall: a night or two before this the band were falling asleep on stage due to being knackered after the flight to Oz and played a shit set, then found their energy again and started dancing to Rock the Casbah in the nightclub after-party, which prompted Smith to start slapping them around and which, in turn, drives Riley to lamp Smith in the face and give him a shiny nice black eye. Then they have to do this interview...
well I've just read mark e smith biography called "renegade". He stated that they went to a terrible heavy metal after party and started playing smoke on the water, Riley started dancing to it and they were taking the piss out of him and laughing. He went over and said "get off the fucking dance floor" and grabbing hold of him. He then hit him in the face in the middle of the disco. Amusing how differently they have put it.
+Gromit Pesley Renegade is a good laugh. It's like transcriptions from pub conversations with Mark E Smith trying to remember exactly what went down and following loads of tangents along the way, which is pretty much how I reckon the ghost writer had to put the book together.
What is this, August 12th or 13th? The shows after this in New Zealand are the Fall at the height of their powers. We're lucky to have this bit of video, thank you for uploading.
Is this the interview where Marc had given Mark a black eye the night before? It's hard to tell with MES but he looks like he might have a shiner on his left eye.
As I speak , late 2017 , Mark is ill , how is Donnie ? I ask because this is a great interview , and I know that Donnie has won some awards for his journalism !
@nath909 sorry, I know I come from the land of borrowed-culture, but is Mark Riley suggesting with that gesture that he's a homosexual and likes Donnie?
Remember when people used to slag off Donnie Sutherland and call him a wanker and yet here is on prime time commercial TV interveiwing a relatively unknown punk band. Doing a pretty good job as well. People are clowns.
Just been listening to a podcast featuring Marc, he tells the story that the night before this interview, he and Mark had been involved in a scuffle. Mark objected to the rest of the band dancing to The Clash in a nightclub, walked over and gave them all a slap. Riley reacted by punching him in the face and giving him a black eye. He was kicked out of the band a couple of months later.
+Darren Saunders yeah I listened to that podcast, Adam Buxton. Marc said he earned more money on the dole than he did being a roadie for the fall. He also said that Mark E Smith liked to intimidate and hit band members as they wouldn't hit him back. Well done Marc, ugly little runt got what he deserved
Marc Riley looks like he's in the headmasters office with his dad....
He sure does
I bet his balls haven't dropped at the this point.
The hapless boy Lard.
Marc Riley had punched him in the face the night before. Thats why smith has a black eye.
Gerry Berry really? Tell me more...
What a genuinely great interviwer. Such a lack of his own self importance. Something many presenters forget.
That was Sounds, a show broadcast on Saturday afternoons in Australia. Donnie Sutherland was a local DJ but hosted the SU show from the 70s to the 80s. It was always worth putting on as they did stray from the top 40 and he was a good presence to see. Find, if you can, his similar interview with John Cooper Clarke from around the same time.
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Donnie Sutherland had his own pop sinlgle hit. So he understood what it took. Unfortunately he also lost his brother at an early age as well which kept him grounded.
Marc Riley probably the best radio DJ still going today.
RIP MES.
Totally
rest in peace to the greatest thing manchester has ever produced.
+Michael Robenalt What you on about - the original line up of New Order are all still alive.
You forgot Joy Division, The Chameleons, Happy Mondays, New Order, The Stone Roses and The Smiths?
Master Bates All great bands, but in the grand scheme of things...only Joy Division were at the same level as The Fall. And I’m saying this as a massive fan of all those bands.
Mark E Smith was the only punk to keep to what was real . Noone came close
One of them.to be fair..John copper Clark is my fav tho makes me laugh about more ..but love the fall and find mark funny as .people find him scary in the music world .it was too easy to shock .he loved that. Played up to it big Time..he ain't no different to old school guys ya meet in pubs and on building sites .there is always a small guy with a tounge of venom ..and damn he is funny .one of a kind in the music business. We need more of this again ..think for ya selfs .and be honest. That is what I have always taken from mark .and dont give a fk
The tension is palpable...
rip Mark E Smith, another one like you will never be found. Respect due.
The interviewer is great, I have seen him before, when you clock him you fear the worst but not that bad at all and seems to have knowledge of his subjects.
Mad Cyril He makes it about them and isn't asking redundant questions (like influences on why them formed) But asks them what they are doing with their success...he is a phenomenal interviewer I have seen so far.
saw The Fall during the Hex InDuction Tour was awesome
The Pop Chart TV shows of Australia, from 1970-90, were amazingly accepting of the most avant garde and l'etranger groups around, a breadth of acceptance beyond down under.
Countdown wasn't. Sounds. That 's because Donnie is intelligent and respectful whereas Molly was only interested in the big acts.
Donnie Sutherland is such a cool interviewer. You can see they totally warm to him in the end despite the nervousness because he's such a no-bullshit genuine fella.
Donnie, Interviewing "the Fall", what a dude! Gold!
must admit at first glance i made the mistake of thinking this was going to be a cheesy interview.....but the reviewer is fantastic....complementary, says sorry at one point for speaking over Mark E smith....and is just nice and honest....and it looks like both the Marks seem alright with him by the end of the interview......great footage.
+Ady Cardiac I've come across this guy before and he is absolutely great isn't he? Just perfect for me. Although at first look you think it's going to be cheesey.
+Ady Cardiac Thanx mate ;-)
Donnie Sutherland your welcome....is this actually Donnie or just someone representing him?....as i have heard that Donnies health has not been too great.
Considering what happened the night before I think that this interview is well conducted by all involved! - Marc and Mark had a set-to and it had ended with Riley punching Smith.
@@adyrandom This is not Donnie Sutherland.
Last time Mark drank water....
"Fish fuck in it." - WC FIELDS
... can you be certain it’s water?
It's Gin.
Ask Shane MacGowan - pretty sure he knows!
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@@brendangeraghty8865 my bet is, vinegar.
Thanks for uploading- "Live at the Family Inn" ...sounds great...
Strange to see Mark disarmed by niceness & the prospect of hearing 'container driver' followed by the Divynals
A blast from the past.
thanks for posting this. brings back memories.
I love this interview so much
"We don't even know what we're going to do after this" - Mark E. Smith still angry from the night before, pondering whether to kick Marc out of the band or possibly split up the band right there.
Getting a contact hangover watching this.
I love Mark
Great interview by The Fall.
Marc Riley... night before the interview he punched Mark E Smith in the eye, gave him a shiner (only slightly visible in this footage) and was consequently thrown out of the band.
Rock and Roll man.
Great interview
great channel mr.sutherland.keep it up!
+cosmicdrifter287 Thank you. Will do!
Love this interview. So fun
I saw them in 2010 - FANTASTIC!
Oh how I miss him...
That was so sweet
They were playing later at 'The Family Inn'..Not that I eve been there especially since it was too far from my home, but now that I live in another state, I checked Google to see if that place was still operating, and it was...
Same tour that 'Fall In A Hole' was recorded in NZ (by Sir Chris Knox) ?
That background music...
Smith's mind had obviously gone to pittle by the time of his interview/autobiography. He reckons it was Deep Purple they were dancing to. That whole book reads like the memoirs of Aldridge Prior from Viz. Half remembered but hilarious bollocks. That book is brilliant. It's the comprehensive 'man down the pub' simulator. Buy some Lidl beer and kick back.
Which one Renegade?
@@ennbee2051 Think so. Some good bits. The Edinburgh years sound like he was happy as. His acrimony towards ex members is phenomenal. The American lads he worked with probably knew not to hang around too long.
Yeah that actually was one of the best interviews I've seen. You look at the interviewer and the Fall and you think they just ain't gonna connect. But hey presto; never seen Mark E look so chuffed.
The background music is nice.
Smiths face looks like someone's set fire to it and then tried to put the flames out with a golf shoe.
Yeah but Marc Riley had punched him in the face the night before. You can see the shadow, so not a black shiner
"The fall - Lovely blokes!" haha
lol
he was and still is.
Donnie you did great service to music. Thank you for your influence on me. I still enjoy music your brought to my attention these many decades latter. I award you a koala stamp.
The man who's head changed shape.
I've been reading Steven Hanleys (bass) book on The Fall: a night or two before this the band were falling asleep on stage due to being knackered after the flight to Oz and played a shit set, then found their energy again and started dancing to Rock the Casbah in the nightclub after-party, which prompted Smith to start slapping them around and which, in turn, drives Riley to lamp Smith in the face and give him a shiny nice black eye.
Then they have to do this interview...
+FRiB6890 great book. some of the descriptions of MES' meltdowns are hilarious.
well I've just read mark e smith biography called "renegade". He stated that they went to a terrible heavy metal after party and started playing smoke on the water, Riley started dancing to it and they were taking the piss out of him and laughing. He went over and said "get off the fucking dance floor" and grabbing hold of him. He then hit him in the face in the middle of the disco.
Amusing how differently they have put it.
+Gromit Pesley Renegade is a good laugh. It's like transcriptions from pub conversations with Mark E Smith trying to remember exactly what went down and following loads of tangents along the way, which is pretty much how I reckon the ghost writer had to put the book together.
+FRiB6890 its like a Fall rashomon.
I just finished reading that part last night. It makes for some good visuals.
May Mark E Smith soul be resting in eternal peace in heaven and still writing and playing his rocking soings
Marc was fired after this tour.
What is this, August 12th or 13th? The shows after this in New Zealand are the Fall at the height of their powers. We're lucky to have this bit of video, thank you for uploading.
I don't know if they did. I know they came back in 2010. Shame I missed them.
David Dickinson hasn’t aged at all since then - (MES = my hero)❤
Donnie is great. Watch his interview with JCC - he truly loves his guests it seems. MES looks fuct here - ha, those were the days.....
@YouGotWoodRolled Just look up their discography, they released like three albums in '82 (one a live one), one in '81, 2 in '80 and 2 in '79.
It’s the Boy Lard! Oooh my life!
MES seemed to cheer up and mellow out an awful lot later in life. I guess most people do.
Donnie has an interview on youtube with JCC and INXS are there too.
RIP Mark.
mind blowing footage. Wow. That tank-top he looks like a northern computer geek
Dr Buckles sent me here
Count buckuleys also pointed me in this direction. Loving his podcasts at the moment.
+amorembalming They get me through the days at a very dull data processing job
buckles sent me here also
and I! God bless him. Loving all his ramble chats.
Do you all sing along to the jingles too? ;)
Marc Riley, he has a joker-hysterical face
I'm not Donnie... he's a friend of mine and i run his channel.
Has Donnie ever been on Marc Riley's "Who's On My T Shirt"?
I wanna see his interview with the divinyls...
So would I!
Proud to say I have never heard Jeff Beck and don't want to. And now I'm quite old. I know OF him and I feel that, that's enough.
Is this the interview where Marc had given Mark a black eye the night before? It's hard to tell with MES but he looks like he might have a shiner on his left eye.
How am I only just discovering lard was in the fall?
MIGHTY!
Good to see Dr. Bruce Banner branching out into other career opportunities.
Rip marky
it is the very interview...
you did a great job Donnie... you were respectful
As I speak , late 2017 , Mark is ill , how is Donnie ? I ask because this is a great interview , and I know that Donnie has won some awards for his journalism !
Now he is beyond ill....t-t-t-totally dead
TT Totally alive by all accounts !
They are always different, they are always the same..
CARRY ON.
Five Pound!
Donnie was fantastic.
@nath909 sorry, I know I come from the land of borrowed-culture, but is Mark Riley suggesting with that gesture that he's a homosexual and likes Donnie?
Marc Riley F.E.A.R.
ace interview, happy chappy the radio presenter, MES black eye must've been a good one for Make Up not able to cover it up?
classic
Mark E Smith RIP
What's up with Mark's head in this?
Round
Marc Riley, he'll give you a kidney
did the Fall tour Oz again i 1983?
not till 1990
All Mark e Smith's band members looked terrified in interviews including his wife! Not a secret that he was a bit of a tyrant.
Why does Mark always rub his nose? Is it a speed thing or does he just have an itchy nose (all the time)
The background music is so un-Fall-like it's kind of funny.
the little pipsqueak looks older than me now.. ha ha ha, now look who's laughing.
R I P
Was never in the gang and never pretended to be either, RIP plastic man
4:38
Has MES a got an impacted orbital bone there?
Remember when people used to slag off Donnie Sutherland and call him a wanker and yet here is on prime time commercial TV interveiwing a relatively unknown punk band. Doing a pretty good job as well. People are clowns.
Why is Marc Riley sitting there like a tailor's dummy?
Just been listening to a podcast featuring Marc, he tells the story that the night before this interview, he and Mark had been involved in a scuffle. Mark objected to the rest of the band dancing to The Clash in a nightclub, walked over and gave them all a slap. Riley reacted by punching him in the face and giving him a black eye. He was kicked out of the band a couple of months later.
+Darren Saunders yeah I listened to that podcast, Adam Buxton. Marc said he earned more money on the dole than he did being a roadie for the fall. He also said that Mark E Smith liked to intimidate and hit band members as they wouldn't hit him back. Well done Marc, ugly little runt got what he deserved
Darren Saunders can see Smith's left eye has some makeup to cover the bruise! Riley looks nervous on tv
Did Riley get a half day from school,the fuckin state of him ,why dosent he fuckin speak?
As a previous consumer, I would say coke or amphetamine.
He also seems a little tense, to say the least.. I think he is _Totally wired_ ;)
Mark E Smith had a face for radio but Marc Riley ended up on the radio instead.
I met Mark E a few times...he was a funny guy...not as dry as he appeared to be
This is funny ! Great interview though.
After 1982 Coldplay were angry. The girlfriend called a baby Apple, and he went apeshit.
Totale's Turns and most like A Part Of America too.
hiya mark fancy a brew??
Has anyone let Riley out yet?
Poor Lard looks like a fish out of water there.
Yep, I gave up seeing The Fall to attend some trivia night.. I almost got into a punch up with one of the punters.
I'm not Donnie, by the way.
4:38
lol Marc had given Mark that black eye, which might have contributed to the slightly weird (er than even usual ) atmosphere.
Mark E Smith n Noel G would of made a handsome band
Handsome buggers ha ha.
Rest in prolificacy, Mark