The Discard Quest can work though...even in legend! Agree that it's not nearly as good as this tempo discard version but if you build your deck around it (Bigger discard guys like doomguard or more rely on Cataclysm and stuff which complete it in one turn in best case) it shines :) And "unkillable" 3/2 's every round are no joke...its a bit slow but so are all "Turn 1" Quests in tempo classes...the overstatted clears and cards kinda make up for it ;) The Tempo version is just faster and more enjoyable maybe but i wouldn't call the Quest "Bad"
@@literatemax Lets say i tested both variants and was rather surprised how well the quest Version performed although Tempo Version was still a Bit better ;))
A simple discard synergy they could add quest wise would be discard 3 cards return the 3 cards discarded to your hand and just make it a 1 cost side quest or something
What happens if you Soularium Clutchmother or Jeklik? Do they keep the discard at end of turn enchantment like with Chaos Gazer. Also why no Wicked Skeleton in this deck?
Nether portal: Your discarded card returns into your deck. I don't think it is what this deck care as it fit more value-oriented deck but it at least adds more interesting decision making like shuffling the quest into your deck for a future quest completion with Cataclysm or Deathwing or some more stupid shenanigans.
Hey Roffle, do you have any plans to do any new Deathrattle Hunter decks? I pulled a Teron and he is great but my knowledge of the wild card pool is lacking and would love to see your take on it
The only way the Discard Quest _could ever work_ would be if both of the following conditions were met: A: It was a Start of Game effect. B: It automatically starts generating Imps upon completion of the quest Since neither of those two things will ever be implemented, much less both of them, it will never be used.
What if the discard quest gives you a 5 mana 8/8 that returns all cards you've discarded to your hand? Pretty comparable to the shaman quest reward, and since that is at least somewhat playable in an aggro deck I could see this being decent.
Hey, nice deck! I have all cards, but no Loatheb... :/ Do you know some cards for replace Loatheb? Maybe the Quest or Blood-Queen Lana'thel? Zavas? Jek'lik? Kanrethad? EDIT: I really, really love this deck. Thank you very much!
Idea for a new discard quest that fits the theme Discard X number of cards Reward give all minions in your hand/deck 'play when discarded' (Add/remove for balance) Give you the reward of less frustrating discards, maybe giving you a huge late game push with double discard doomguard
The Solarium has and will continue to see use. (Mainly in Mecha'thun and Disco atm). Most of the rares may not serve the same versatility though. But if you like the deck and think it won't be regretted? By all means go and make it. It wins and it's a good time.
Hey roffle I know the quest is terrible, but I think it could be a funny video if you made a control style discard quest lock. I've done it before, and while it's stupid and unreliable, when you win it feels soooo good.
the expired merchant is one of the best cards in the deck, so i dont understand why your not running it. (and its insane if u hit either fist or golem)
Even if it had the play or discard effect, the Nether Portal has no immediate impact on board, takes too much time to ramp up, requires you pass on turn 1, and takes up a spot in your opening hand that could be early game aggression.
I reach Legend with a simmilar version, but i use the prime card and voidwalker too, and i dont use jaraxxus fist and the 4 mana 3/8, because i dont have LOL.
If the quest and quest reward would have "play or discard effect" it would be a lot better. As a better quest reward I'm thinking of smth like adding cards in deck, summoning discarded minions or adding discarded cards to the hand... or casting 4 fists of jaraxxus
Even if it had the play or discard effect, the Nether Portal has no immediate impact on board, takes too much time to ramp up, requires you pass on turn 1, and takes up a spot in your opening hand that could be early game aggression.
@@Roffle watching your vids for quite a while I realize this what you just said is one of the things that chat keeps asking and you keep repeating :))) I wonder if we could get a rework for the quest 🤔 and I wonder if you keep some answers in notepad so you don't have to write every time :)))
@@Roffle after playing something similar to your list and a more aggressive one I saw how you can end the game on turn five, it would such a waste to play the quest on turn 1 only to waste turn 5 if you do manage to complete it until then. learn, win and discard their face... with Roffle :))
Hey Roffle, since you never talked abut could you please explain why isn't the quest inside this deck? Also you should stop trying to discard the right cards and bluff to avoid fate trolling you.
Hey Roffle. Looks like a deck that can be fun (when not discarding cards you want) and I agree with what you’ve said in the past about the quest but jeez did you seem really adamant about how the quest wouldn’t work in the deck. Like your tone and demeanor changed so you were super serious Roffle. Wow did you make your point about the quest being bad (at least to me anyway)
The deck is definitely very good. The tone around the quest might have just been that I was getting questions about it (and other cards) every 10 minutes or so during the 3-4 hours I was playing the deck. I may have just been getting irritable answering the same question so frequently which can get exhausting at times.
Roffle true I know chat likes to “grind your gears” (to use a family guy term ;-) ) so it’s understandable that you might get irritated. Nothing wrong with that. I’m glad you replied and I’m glad you were having fun with the deck either way. Your best videos are the ones that clearly show you having fun :-) and either way I like when you explain things about how cards and decks work like you did with the quest. Thank you for your daily content that makes my mornings better :-)
OK, replace discard quest with a 1 mana spell with, when this card is played or discarded add "Step 1" to your hand, then each step needs to be discarded. Then you get your reward once they're all gone
I just like variety. I don't have like a preferred archetype or play style. -- that's what she... oh never mind, she didn't say that at all. roffle did. roffle said that.
Discard quest would be good if it read: after you discard 6 cards all your minions are 5/5s for the rest of the game or after you discard 6 cards take an extra turn lol
Do you like played dicard deck for the first time? if you tell it "don't discard" it will. Hide your feelings. It can read your thoughts. Show that you stronger, don't let it taste your fear.
Your opening here...this is exactly how Discard lock plays. Just....pick the most valuable card in your hand, and that's the one it's gonna discard. So...when you have a really valuable card you really really dont want to discard...one that's 100% gonna win you the match...AVOID THE DISCARD MECHANIC 100%. Yes, that's almost impossible in this deck...but...the discard mechanic is rigged to absolute bullshit. Always ask yourself...what are the odds? And the odds of the "discard" mechanic being "random" is virtually none. Blizz decides who wins and when.
My MMR was a little low at the start, but I didn't face a single Silver opponent. Those are Diamond and Platinum ranked opponents. I went 33-3 with the deck and the entire run was streamed with a VOD still available. You're welcome to think what you want, but there's actual proof.
“Please don’t discard X.”
*X gets discarded*
Story of my life.
Always
It's bullshit rigged...
The starting montage had my stomach hurting. RNG is fun.
Edit: Oh my the game against odd paladin, a true display of skill
Battlecry: Discard a random "card you need the most" from your hand.
Syrhpez, 3 Mana 2/3 Minion, Battlecry: Discard the perfect card.
@@SyckestBlah "Your wish is my discard!"
19:04 for the obligatory "why the Discard Quest sucks in the Discard Deck" conversation.
Well... it does
How about a reward that activates when discarded. And reads at the at the end of every turn summon a 3/3 taunt.
The Discard Quest can work though...even in legend! Agree that it's not nearly as good as this tempo discard version but if you build your deck around it (Bigger discard guys like doomguard or more rely on Cataclysm and stuff which complete it in one turn in best case) it shines :) And "unkillable" 3/2 's every round are no joke...its a bit slow but so are all "Turn 1" Quests in tempo classes...the overstatted clears and cards kinda make up for it ;)
The Tempo version is just faster and more enjoyable maybe but i wouldn't call the Quest "Bad"
@@mbubu88 You would probably achieve a higher winrate with a single Reckless Rocketeer to replace the quest, unfortunately...
@@literatemax Lets say i tested both variants and was rather surprised how well the quest Version performed although Tempo Version was still a Bit better ;))
i played discard yugioh back in the days too where i threw my deck in the bin. never lost so its technically 100% win rate
Never collected those cards in the first place. 10/10 joke made me chuckle xD
le stabby dark world?
@@Allstaar1117 It's a joke mate. Discard means to get rid of or throw away. So he's saying he threw his deck in the bin. Could say it was trash!
A_Curious_Badger consider that the guy you were responding to was also joking
That grass looks greener be like
A cool effect for a reworked quest would be a 5 Mana 5/5 that reads: discard 3 cards, all cards discarded are played instead
Omg a deck that misplays for me!
A deck I can afford? Hell yeah!
You’re rich in all of our hearts, Yogg-Saron.
10:20 Did not know hitting a paladin in the face would drop rings :p
Thought the same
A simple discard synergy they could add quest wise would be discard 3 cards return the 3 cards discarded to your hand and just make it a 1 cost side quest or something
What happens if you Soularium Clutchmother or Jeklik? Do they keep the discard at end of turn enchantment like with Chaos Gazer. Also why no Wicked Skeleton in this deck?
Nether portal: Your discarded card returns into your deck.
I don't think it is what this deck care as it fit more value-oriented deck but it at least adds more interesting decision making like shuffling the quest into your deck for a future quest completion with Cataclysm or Deathwing or some more stupid shenanigans.
Hey Roffle, do you have any plans to do any new Deathrattle Hunter decks? I pulled a Teron and he is great but my knowledge of the wild card pool is lacking and would love to see your take on it
Roffle : *says what he doesn't want to be discarded, gets this card discarded right away*
Also Roffle : *does it again*
I've tried to make discard warlock work every time it gets new cards.
I'm glad it's able to work but mostly with old support
I'm lowkey glad it doesn't want or need Lakkari Sacrifice.
This is just how wild works. Eventually 1 or 2 cards get printed that pull it all together.
@GG2U Now you're talking. I'm super ready for Freeze Shaman to reign supreme with Moorabi at the helm.
@GG2U Freeze Galakrond Shaman was actually decent before they nerfed a bunch of Galakrond cards, including the freeze one.
How about that hirek from ratsakhan rumble
The only way the Discard Quest _could ever work_ would be if both of the following conditions were met:
A: It was a Start of Game effect.
B: It automatically starts generating Imps upon completion of the quest
Since neither of those two things will ever be implemented, much less both of them, it will never be used.
Hey Roffle, how good/bad are the 2 mana merchant and Jeklik
Merchant was okay when I tried her. Jeklik is too slow.
@@Roffle Ah alright then, thanks for telling me. Love your videos btw
What if the discard quest gives you a 5 mana 8/8 that returns all cards you've discarded to your hand? Pretty comparable to the shaman quest reward, and since that is at least somewhat playable in an aggro deck I could see this being decent.
Hey, nice deck!
I have all cards, but no Loatheb... :/
Do you know some cards for replace Loatheb? Maybe the Quest or Blood-Queen Lana'thel? Zavas? Jek'lik? Kanrethad?
EDIT: I really, really love this deck. Thank you very much!
Litteraly throwing cards at your opponent !
25:11 Your face, the look of disgust 😂
Such a fast deck.
There's only one reason I play discard Lock.
Nightshade Matron's voice line--I don't know why but the attack line is really rad.
Idea for a new discard quest that fits the theme
Discard X number of cards
Reward give all minions in your hand/deck 'play when discarded'
(Add/remove for balance)
Give you the reward of less frustrating discards, maybe giving you a huge late game push with double discard doomguard
Is this deck worth crafting? I need some rares and soularium
The Solarium has and will continue to see use. (Mainly in Mecha'thun and Disco atm). Most of the rares may not serve the same versatility though.
But if you like the deck and think it won't be regretted? By all means go and make it. It wins and it's a good time.
That intro pretty much describes the trials and tribulations of every DiscoLock player everywhere. Well done.
You could change the discard quest reward to have the “hand of gul’dan” text, so when you play or discard it you get the effect.
Hey roffle I know the quest is terrible, but I think it could be a funny video if you made a control style discard quest lock. I've done it before, and while it's stupid and unreliable, when you win it feels soooo good.
What would be an ok replacement for Loatheb?
Quest
No clutch mother or hireek ?
THANK!!!
at the beginning I lost 3 times
and after 18 times won from 5dia
and take my FIRST legend
THANK!!!
85% winrate
Congrats!
i want more of these kind of intros pls , trying to make memes is VERY time consuming for u
I was looking for a fairly budget Warlock deck for Wild thanks Roffle!!!
Hope you enjoy it! Good luck!
This list looks stronger than the more controlling version with jeklik and cataclysm. Am I getting the right impression here?
Yes, this deck is much better than the slower, control version.
I was washing my teeth and the intro of the video made me spit out of laugh all over my laptop. Thanks, Roffle.
You brought your laptop to the bathroom, interesting
What if the quest activated when discarded so you would not need to play it on turn 1.
the expired merchant is one of the best cards in the deck, so i dont understand why your not running it. (and its insane if u hit either fist or golem)
Definitly run it over the 3 mana 3 4
What’s the reason for not having clutch mother in the deck
Or jeklik
It's an aggressive tempo deck and those are value-based cards that take too long to get going.
the ideal quest reward: become the Greatest Dinomancer
These intros are gold. Also this is a nice kinda budget discolock deck that I've seen.
What if the quest reward had the text "when played or discarded"? Would that make it fit with the deck better?
Even if it had the play or discard effect, the Nether Portal has no immediate impact on board, takes too much time to ramp up, requires you pass on turn 1, and takes up a spot in your opening hand that could be early game aggression.
@@Roffle now if the quest itself got played when discarded
And the reward fit the deck it might possibly fit in the worst version
Sad quest days
**loses one in three chance**
Roffle: **surprised Pikachu face**
I like how you liked your own pc setup kit on your own link
Hey Roffle can you try a deck with just starter cards ??
Why no Clutchmother? Dust related reasons or just not needed.
I reach Legend with a simmilar version, but i use the prime card and voidwalker too, and i dont use jaraxxus fist and the 4 mana 3/8, because i dont have LOL.
Hey roffle in your intro(watch this) you have saviors of uldum background
Maybe you should change it to ashes of outland ?
If the quest and quest reward would have "play or discard effect" it would be a lot better. As a better quest reward I'm thinking of smth like adding cards in deck, summoning discarded minions or adding discarded cards to the hand... or casting 4 fists of jaraxxus
Even if it had the play or discard effect, the Nether Portal has no immediate impact on board, takes too much time to ramp up, requires you pass on turn 1, and takes up a spot in your opening hand that could be early game aggression.
@@Roffle watching your vids for quite a while I realize this what you just said is one of the things that chat keeps asking and you keep repeating :))) I wonder if we could get a rework for the quest 🤔 and I wonder if you keep some answers in notepad so you don't have to write every time :)))
@@Roffle after playing something similar to your list and a more aggressive one I saw how you can end the game on turn five, it would such a waste to play the quest on turn 1 only to waste turn 5 if you do manage to complete it until then. learn, win and discard their face... with Roffle :))
Hey Roffle, since you never talked abut could you please explain why isn't the quest inside this deck? Also you should stop trying to discard the right cards and bluff to avoid fate trolling you.
Thank you @Roffle this deck for me to legend for the very first time. 😍
Congrats! That's awesome to hear!
Roffle got the good stuff during this quarantine. But i gotta say, am i the only one who likes the Matron's VA?
The absolute disgust on the coin ping, priceless
Hey Roffle. Looks like a deck that can be fun (when not discarding cards you want) and I agree with what you’ve said in the past about the quest but jeez did you seem really adamant about how the quest wouldn’t work in the deck. Like your tone and demeanor changed so you were super serious Roffle. Wow did you make your point about the quest being bad (at least to me anyway)
The deck is definitely very good. The tone around the quest might have just been that I was getting questions about it (and other cards) every 10 minutes or so during the 3-4 hours I was playing the deck. I may have just been getting irritable answering the same question so frequently which can get exhausting at times.
Roffle true I know chat likes to “grind your gears” (to use a family guy term ;-) ) so it’s understandable that you might get irritated. Nothing wrong with that. I’m glad you replied and I’m glad you were having fun with the deck either way. Your best videos are the ones that clearly show you having fun :-) and either way I like when you explain things about how cards and decks work like you did with the quest. Thank you for your daily content that makes my mornings better :-)
Quest completion could be something like “discover a card you discarded this game. Discard 3 copies of it.”
Boom. 3 fists for 12 damage.
Dialogue interactions: 10:31, 12:22, 25:50
Why not Loatheb here 7:22 ?
roffle, ty for videos ,yr ideas is amazing! imho
OK, replace discard quest with a 1 mana spell with, when this card is played or discarded add "Step 1" to your hand, then each step needs to be discarded. Then you get your reward once they're all gone
19:06
Nice video as always !
Thank you!
At least Roffle has the same luck I have with discard cards. It always discards the one I need most.
Reminds me of Dark World in YuGiOh, I love it.
Why no quest?
“We’re gonna get fisted”
Roffle 2020
“AWW, CUM ON!”
No jeklick?
coin + hero power just got me there omg
Are u sitting or standing?
quest?
Like always, you’ve provided amazing content for us all. Thank you so much, Roffle!
Thank you for watching! I really appreciate it!
Got legend with this deck! :)
Congrats!
Gotta show love to the greatest you tuber ❤️
Thank you!
Woof thats cool deck
If you want something to discarded
Just say "I want to keep this card"
Work every time
I guess
That's literally how it works. Any of the other 6 cards just not that one. Boom..it's gone. Concede...
Fun as Fuck and Strong as 5 kilogram Balls man !!! Love This Deck as a bored old player, made me play the game again, Thanks a LOT !!!
I just like variety. I don't have like a preferred archetype or play style. -- that's what she... oh never mind, she didn't say that at all. roffle did. roffle said that.
Nice job!
Thanks!
Ain't nothing like piloting a fun deck into a 90% win rate
Discard quest would be good if it read: after you discard 6 cards all your minions are 5/5s for the rest of the game or after you discard 6 cards take an extra turn lol
its better to just give the 3/2 rush and they spawn at the start of the turn
@@miloskrivokuca1402 trying to be funny by giving warlock open the waygate or crystal core rewards.
@@Creationweek didint realise you were joking lmao
why you dont use quest? its win condition
I explain why in the video.
To be honest the RNG of discard is what holds this deck back.If you got to choose what you discarded this deck would be so much stronger.
Yeah, that's why some of the new, controlled Discard effects like Matriarch and Hand of Gul'dan make the so much better.
This deck is legendary
Hey where’s the quest
Quest machine broke(it's too slow)
Marc Popov oh ok
Ez legend, thx man
that intro is basically why I don't touch discard decks. In any CCG really.
Hi !
Hello!
Kripp approves of those discards. XD
This was why doom guard was hall of famed, right?
Do you like played dicard deck for the first time? if you tell it "don't discard" it will.
Hide your feelings.
It can read your thoughts.
Show that you stronger, don't let it taste your fear.
Why nobody is talking about the 10:20 sync god
Your opening here...this is exactly how Discard lock plays. Just....pick the most valuable card in your hand, and that's the one it's gonna discard. So...when you have a really valuable card you really really dont want to discard...one that's 100% gonna win you the match...AVOID THE DISCARD MECHANIC 100%. Yes, that's almost impossible in this deck...but...the discard mechanic is rigged to absolute bullshit. Always ask yourself...what are the odds? And the odds of the "discard" mechanic being "random" is virtually none. Blizz decides who wins and when.
saying not to discard something immediately means it’s getting discarded
roffle your MMR is in silver, i dont think its a high legend windrate...
My MMR was a little low at the start, but I didn't face a single Silver opponent. Those are Diamond and Platinum ranked opponents. I went 33-3 with the deck and the entire run was streamed with a VOD still available. You're welcome to think what you want, but there's actual proof.
@@Roffle ysee the thing that you didnt take into account is that i am dumb and thought it was a silver portrait lmao
Ooga booga why no take quest, such good card.
Why disco died
literally commenting a video before even watching it
Thanks! Hope you enjoy it when you do watch :)
Play odd taunt druid
Ever consider playing the lottery?
This is why I never play any of the discard cards. It will always hit the only card I want to keep.
That intro tho
Now try and win with this deck
But with *MECHATHUN*
I.. feel your pain.
This deck could use some dinomancers
I'm the greatest dinomancer, though.