Regarding the onside kick: Yes, of course, Shannon is correct that it's far easier to convert 4th and 20 than recover an onside kick. But he's absolutely wrong to compare *any* play in a game that gains more than 20 yards to a 4th and 20 situation to retain control of the ball. 20 yard gains occur on first down when defenses are caught cheating forward and not expecting long bomb plays on 1st and 2nd down. 4th and 20 situations dictate a particular kind of defense that is going to reduce the likelihood of conversion considerably. But... still, you'll see teams retain control FAR more often compared to the present onside kick rules.
@@youngkoresh6yea saying "real fans" is cringe but this show is definitely over a year old. I remember watching this show October 2023, when uncs dog airport story went viral
EXACTLYYYYY! Like bro if i’m a DC & I know you clearly have to throw the ball to pick up this 4th & 20, im pinning my DB’s back & maybe only rush 3 or 4 & keeping everything in front of me. . it’s no way in hell he’s trying to compare that to a 20 yard gain on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd down that’s not even comparable . . . he knows it’s BS that’s why he kept bringing up penalties to make it be a situation where 4th & 20 becomes 4th & 10 or hoping for a PI like come on Unc you arguing just to argue at this point.
Yeah, he's out of his mind. Yes, of course, Shannon is correct that it's far easier to convert 4th and 20 than recover an onside kick. But he's absolutely wrong to compare any play in a game that gains more than 20 yards to a 4th and 20 situation to retain control of the ball. 20 yard gains occur on first down when defenses are caught cheating forward and not expecting long bomb plays on 1st and 2nd down. 4th and 20 situations dictate a particular kind of defense that is going to reduce the likelihood of conversion considerably. But... still, you'll see teams retain control FAR more often compared to the present onside kick rules.
You have to equate it to a 4th and 20 because it's a 1 shot chance vs Unc mentioning 85 20 yard plays for Ravens...difference is, they didn't need the 20 yards and the defense wasn't playing to stop you from getting exactly 20 yards. Gotta agree with Ocho on this one
I like Marcus Freeman for my Raiders. Gotta go get him before his price goes up. I'm tired of missing out on the playoffs and not contending for a title. He totally outcoached the Penn St. guy, as the Nittany Lions dominated that first half and should have been up by 17 or 20 at least. Freeman just took him to school in the second half.
I get unc point bout the turnovers but when basketball fans do the same bout Bron who can give you 36 pts in 3 quarters but 4 in the 4th and miss the game winning or tying shot to force ot. UNC ALL WE ASK IS TO KEEP THE SAME ENERGY FOR ALL
yes, the 49ers should sign brock purdy to a long term deal. Brock Purdy deserves it because he saved Kyle Shanahan's ass. the 49ers should be kissing purdy's feet
The main difference between 1st, 2nd & 3rd compared to 4th is the other three if I don’t turn the ball over I get another shot if I fail a fourth down the other gets the ball 😂 that’s the difference and why the downs are important Unc should know this but he just wanna be right we not arguing if 20 yards if harder to get than an onside kick it’s the 4th and 20 not 1,2, or 3 it’s 4th down and you need 20 yards if you don’t get it turnover on downs that’s the difference
Shannon must not understand the raiders one of the most profitable franchises in the nfl and on top of that mark also owns the Las Vegas aces 😂 he not hurting for no money
Unc starting to get to ocho with the cutoffs😮 you can tell by his body language, But I don’t know what ocho talking about with that onside kick topic so I see why unc be cutting him off😂
13:29 Unc don't care Ocho fighting for his life 😂
Regarding the onside kick: Yes, of course, Shannon is correct that it's far easier to convert 4th and 20 than recover an onside kick. But he's absolutely wrong to compare *any* play in a game that gains more than 20 yards to a 4th and 20 situation to retain control of the ball. 20 yard gains occur on first down when defenses are caught cheating forward and not expecting long bomb plays on 1st and 2nd down. 4th and 20 situations dictate a particular kind of defense that is going to reduce the likelihood of conversion considerably. But... still, you'll see teams retain control FAR more often compared to the present onside kick rules.
So true. How .any 3rd and 20 are converted?
UNC is right. This is greatest step toward getting rid of the kick off. The Lions is never kicking again.
Unc is right idk how this is even debatable, INCLUDING the fact that there are many calls happen nowadays.
@nnix is right. Unc is not thinking about the prevent defense that will be in place.
You can Fast forward to 6:14
6:00* for the real fans
@@MiguelCrackinsealznot really . Ocho girlfriend had nothing to do with night cap so 6:14 like I said. Get off your knees
"Real fans" this show not even a year old relax bud
@@youngkoresh6yea saying "real fans" is cringe but this show is definitely over a year old. I remember watching this show October 2023, when uncs dog airport story went viral
Unc doubling down on “sucking” 37:45 and Ocho and the chat losing it is why this show is what it is😂😂
"I hear, hu...I'm GONE"🧏🏾♂️😂😂
UNC KEPT IT REAL AF!!! OCHO GONNA COST YALL A PENALTY!!!😂😂😂😂
PAUSE UNC 36:11😭😭😭
Ong . Keep sucking 😭at least he is not a quitter
Yeah this was wild as hell😂
"Get him off me ref...get him off me"🧏🏾♂️😂😆😂
Love hit that hurdle with an injured knee was impressive 👌🏽
37:59 wooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa u by yourself on that unk ….Major pause 😂😂😂
36:18 “we gon suck together” PAUSE
Ocho choking on dat water lol
Why is Unc acting like the defense isn’t completely different for 4th and 20 vs 1st 2nd or 3rd down and how ever long to go??
EXACTLYYYYY! Like bro if i’m a DC & I know you clearly have to throw the ball to pick up this 4th & 20, im pinning my DB’s back & maybe only rush 3 or 4 & keeping everything in front of me. . it’s no way in hell he’s trying to compare that to a 20 yard gain on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd down that’s not even comparable . . . he knows it’s BS that’s why he kept bringing up penalties to make it be a situation where 4th & 20 becomes 4th & 10 or hoping for a PI like come on Unc you arguing just to argue at this point.
Yeah, he's out of his mind.
Yes, of course, Shannon is correct that it's far easier to convert 4th and 20 than recover an onside kick. But he's absolutely wrong to compare any play in a game that gains more than 20 yards to a 4th and 20 situation to retain control of the ball. 20 yard gains occur on first down when defenses are caught cheating forward and not expecting long bomb plays on 1st and 2nd down. 4th and 20 situations dictate a particular kind of defense that is going to reduce the likelihood of conversion considerably. But... still, you'll see teams retain control FAR more often compared to the present onside kick rules.
Prevent Defense lol 😅
You have to equate it to a 4th and 20 because it's a 1 shot chance vs Unc mentioning 85 20 yard plays for Ravens...difference is, they didn't need the 20 yards and the defense wasn't playing to stop you from getting exactly 20 yards. Gotta agree with Ocho on this one
That sounds stupid as fuck. The Chiefs would be gifted so many onside kicks. This would ruin football
the spelling ocho segment is funny 🤣🤣
Ngl if i was talking to unc and he answered shi before i even finished speaking i would be irritated, ochco tryna keep that job i dont blame em.
Ocho definitely no sharpest tool in the shed
Just how they know it’s a onside kick so it’s hard to recover. The defense would know you have to get 20 yards so it would be just as hard
ocho dont even watch the games its wild
1:35:53 😭😭😭😭 “bib…biblee…bib bib”
Chad was saying 4th & 20 has more pressure than 1,2 & 3rd.
❤ ya unc
I like Marcus Freeman for my Raiders. Gotta go get him before his price goes up. I'm tired of missing out on the playoffs and not contending for a title. He totally outcoached the Penn St. guy, as the Nittany Lions dominated that first half and should have been up by 17 or 20 at least. Freeman just took him to school in the second half.
I get unc point bout the turnovers but when basketball fans do the same bout Bron who can give you 36 pts in 3 quarters but 4 in the 4th and miss the game winning or tying shot to force ot. UNC ALL WE ASK IS TO KEEP THE SAME ENERGY FOR ALL
A missed shot is not equivalent to a turnover 😂
Those two aren’t anywhere near alike? 💀 no shot you just made that comparison
You should've said when Lebron makes a bad pass or dribbles the ball off his leg. Missing shots comes with the game. Those aren't turnovers.
WTF?!?😆
stop being a LeBron hater😂😂😂
There is a big difference when you equate what down it is...4th and 20 is tough because you get 1 shot and the defense know it's coming
Way easier to get a 20 yard gain than an onside kick
Ocho needs a neon bangles sign behind him
Or like the number 85
Ocho sneezing and unc reaction got me crying 😂😂😂
We’re gonna all suck together at 36:00 is nasty work 😭😭😭
I sho raised my eyebrow like paused that unc lol
HAchhooooo😂😂😂😂 48:35
1:50:14 that’s cuz they people in St. Louis lol. LA has all kinds of fans
48:20 😂😂😂😂😂
Michigan have those tight ends too....
47:50 😂😂😂😂
CAN Y'ALL COME TO CALI?
UNC PULLED UP A WIFI ROUTER😭😭😭
That would be a story line for the championship game Marcus freeman going against his former college he played for Ohio State
Ocho is out of his damn mind if he thinks an onside kick & getting 20 yards on a play is the same thing. Dude is tripping
Hah-Choo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
yes, the 49ers should sign brock purdy to a long term deal. Brock Purdy deserves it because he saved Kyle Shanahan's ass. the 49ers should be kissing purdy's feet
The main difference between 1st, 2nd & 3rd compared to 4th is the other three if I don’t turn the ball over I get another shot if I fail a fourth down the other gets the ball 😂 that’s the difference and why the downs are important Unc should know this but he just wanna be right we not arguing if 20 yards if harder to get than an onside kick it’s the 4th and 20 not 1,2, or 3 it’s 4th down and you need 20 yards if you don’t get it turnover on downs that’s the difference
Ocho shoulda said prevent defense thats why
unc no snoop slander he gone get better.A geno smith type come back.
theres no way mang a onside kick is way more difficult 100%
As a Michigan fan I sure hate seeing Notre Dame winning
30:49 unk u just want to be mad at tyreek for something at this point lol.
1:32:06 😂😂😂😂
Ocho be tripping.. 4&20 magnitudes easier then on side kicks. Keep that shi away
Pause unc 😂
1:09:10 Trent coming back next year..sorry unk
Ocho will excuse bad behavior period. Rek will be the next AB.
1:03:10 ALL IN HIS FIRST 2 YEARSPay that man ….Dak love l…stop it…Facts Unk
Unc really gonna die on the hill that it was burrow fault they sucked and not that bum ass defense they put out there, it’s ok to be wrong OG.
Unc’s Raiders takes are always wrong lol
Shannon must not understand the raiders one of the most profitable franchises in the nfl and on top of that mark also owns the Las Vegas aces 😂 he not hurting for no money
they avoiding that jermaine burton topic😂
Unc his wrist hurt from the handcuffs ! Remember his situation with the cops
Unc starting to get to ocho with the cutoffs😮 you can tell by his body language, But I don’t know what ocho talking about with that onside kick topic so I see why unc be cutting him off😂
First blk coach?????? 😂😂 nahh son
PAUSE Shannon...PAUSE😬🤦🏾♂️
Ocho need to leave this mofo. He never let ocho talk or finish his opinion. Bozo
😂😂😂
Take away the onside kick and bring back a normal kickoff return please.
Ocho be dumb and dont even know it 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Ocho is so off on some topics I’m wondering if he is watching or knows. 🤔
N😢 he is not
Just like Shannon talking about 85 20 yd plays vs 4th&20 plays lol he can’t be wrong
I don’t think Ocho watches the games. He tries very hard to come up with relevant statements and comments.
Spello Cinco is getting old. 🥱 At least let Ocho write out the word to see if it looks right. He’d do way better.
ND Coach Freeman leads his team from the front, Otherwise. BE, KNOW, DO 🥷🏼