How Lies Launch Modern Medicine | Dr. Nathalia Holt | TEDxCapeMay

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  • When it comes to the fear of newly identified diseases, lies often substitute for data, and for those afflicted, stigma supplants compassion. The treatment of illnesses such as cancer, HIV, influenza, and tuberculosis, are often rooted in the falsehoods of their first portrayal. Nathalia Holt looks at the precision of our cultural and scientific understanding of disease and considers the influence of perception in medicine, and asks, what is the truth about the treatment of our most deadly diseases?
    Dr. Nathalia Holt is the author of Cured: The People who Defeated HIV (Dutton 2014) and Rise of the Rocket Girls: The Women Who Propelled Us from Missiles to the Moon to Mars (Little, Brown, 2016). Her work has appeared in numerous publications including The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Atlantic, Slate, Popular Science and Time. She is a microbiologist who has trained at the Ragon Institute of MGH, MIT and Harvard University, University of Southern California and Tulane University. She lives with her husband and their two daughters in Boston, MA. See www.nathaliaholt.com
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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  • @gaylemuir1634
    @gaylemuir1634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I didn’t know this history. It was very interesting. Years ago (when I was 26) I developed cancer and I chose a naturopathic path since at that time medical treatments had poor outcomes. I’ve been cancer free since then (I’m 75). My wish is that we could talk about these natural therapies without being labeled “quacks” or any of the other labels old John D. Rockefeller maligned those of us who choose a different path. Many wholistic doctors have lost their license because they dared to question Allopathic medicine or offer alternatives.

    • @benvazquez7477
      @benvazquez7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Very interesting , but congrats on being cancer free!

    • @ReginaMcNeish
      @ReginaMcNeish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They will NEVER allow for natural medicine to help anyone with any kind of EASILY and CHEAP curable ways of treating Cancer.. there is NO MONEY IN IT FOR THE MEDICAL FIELD. Rockefeller made SURE of that.. the only thing he helped was HIS legacy the rest of the world can go kick rocks and if they got injured while doing so PERFECT cuz they can make money off of that.. They simply DO NOT CARE.. if you tell them you fixed something naturally ... CRICKETS...I personally know ppl who have cured their cancer naturally and I MYSELF have gotten rid of multiple cyst and fibroids and the doctors NEVER TOLD ANYONE about how I did it... Cuz THEY DO NOT CARE.... and ppl are so afraid and so they run to the very thing that will kill them.. the doctors and the hospital... out of habit....

    • @gaylemuir1634
      @gaylemuir1634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or look up Dr. Pierre Kory.

    • @KB-sv7fm
      @KB-sv7fm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I had a problem with eczema and Chronic Fatigue for decades. Mainstream medicine tried to treat my eczema but they did nothing for my fatigue. One day I found out about something called Hidden Food Allergies (intolerances). It is widely known in Alternative medicine. I have a delayed reaction to dairy and the Corn Protein (High Fructose Corn Syrup , Corn Starch , etc.) . I now see a Doctor in Integrative Medicine. Many universities have an Integrative Medicine Department (Johns Hopkins , Duke , University of Arizona , etc.). Mainstream medicine just wants to give you prescription drugs. People are being conned. Mainstream medicine may help you feel fine but Integrative (Alternative) will make you feel outstanding. The additives in processed foods are destroying people’s health. I firmly believe that there would be far lower rates of cancer if people ate less processed foods.

    • @terrietalbert4503
      @terrietalbert4503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KB-sv7fm interesting! I have similar issues. I know that cows milk (goat ok) is a problem for me as well as sugar and put them together big problem! I’ll gain 6#’s instantly. Wheat and corn are issues for me too. Wheat leaves me foggy brained and lethargic, ugh!

  • @misterhill5598
    @misterhill5598 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    There is also a hidden history of Rockefeller Medicines.

  • @Kate-pu5oi
    @Kate-pu5oi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    My sister had tuberculosis when she was younger. I'm so glad my mother didn't listen to the doctors and allow the treatment they wanted. She took my sister to a naturopath and when she went back to the doctor he was so shocked at the good results he fell to his knees and asked 'what did you do??'
    If she had done the treatment the doctor wanted she may not have survived, and if she did would have a huge scar down the side of her face and neck.

    • @jgrayblesser
      @jgrayblesser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Which is crazy because it is very easy to heal.... if you don't use modern medicine or western pharmaceuticals.

    • @kiwi8476
      @kiwi8476 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was the treatment or the cure did you end up doing or she end up doing?

  • @jgrayblesser
    @jgrayblesser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I thought this was going to be about how most of what we know about cancer and medicine is a lie.

  • @michaelangelo7310
    @michaelangelo7310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Chemo can still be very harmful.

    • @joaocoelho7331
      @joaocoelho7331 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It has always been and always will!

  • @sekito2125
    @sekito2125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    For a talk that is titled “How Lies Shaped Modern Medicine”, it itself is a great example of it

    • @DoctorMaya7
      @DoctorMaya7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wrote “This is a profession that was built on a foundation of lies and deceit” in my book “Maya bring tears of happiness”. I feel sad, because people are following these professionals hoping to live on earth for ever.
      My contribution to change the mindset is the only option for humanity to survive. I hope people will stop doctors will find miracle cure to miraculously make the past couple of years as a horrible dream.

    • @charliem5254
      @charliem5254 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ok Boomerbot

    • @lilfridge5652
      @lilfridge5652 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep drinking the fluoridated kool aid ya sheep.

    • @bluwng
      @bluwng ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoctorMaya7I thought this was going to talk about Rockefeller manipulation. She looks like a Shill, who said you can’t judge a book by its cover.

  • @Gandan0792
    @Gandan0792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never have I gone through a Lecture so attentively. So simple yet so effective.

  • @Takingthethem..
    @Takingthethem.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    YT took down Rockefeller Medicine it seems

    • @crazyvoice12
      @crazyvoice12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't have that easily accessible

    • @stacylane5934
      @stacylane5934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is there a way to find it still?

    • @danielsilva9502
      @danielsilva9502 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was looking the book Rockefeller Medicine Men

  • @andrewgonzales1359
    @andrewgonzales1359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wrote a sixty page paper at the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities, which focused on HIV, which is mentioned in the beginning. I am very excited to hear this topic in this speech, as this topic is seldom discussed.

  • @georgeduncan5178
    @georgeduncan5178 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    our fear Driven perception is conditioned ....creating stress which drives disease....the Nocebo effect. tgank U Dr Bruce Lipton 💥💥💥💥

  • @davidstephens3442
    @davidstephens3442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Dr. Nathalia Holt, I just added you to my list of heros in my notes app. Thanks for all you do.

  • @kr5153
    @kr5153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow! Definitely DON'T look into PREVENTION or the actual cause of something.

    • @stevemitz4740
      @stevemitz4740 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Prevention is bad for business! I.e. why that, "First do no harm", "God's food for medicine" had to be dropped! So toxic aluminum mercury squlaine laced jabs, to insure lots of sick dying people to treat, with toxic patent "medicine" causing more problem needing treatment! Satan woulden't have it any other way! I.E. why god was dropped from the once Hippocratic Oath! Now it's an oath to Pharma [so-called] "science!" were researchers' are not paied a dime till the new drug is safe to sell! (With the accompanying "Did you or your loved ones take drug X" & suffer [you name it] Then call the law firm Dewey Cheatem and How!

  • @coldviper1ify
    @coldviper1ify 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nov 2023 - i asked my parents which they would rather have, the flu or co.v1d? I now have a strong understanding of stigma.

  • @WellnessSolutions
    @WellnessSolutions ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very true. Personally I feel medical care should not be controlled by disease or drug authorities, instead by functional health care. The perception of health is very significant any natural methods to improve and sustain health will dramatically change the life of man to a better one. This is my experience for the last 40 years in modern medicine practice. Perceptions should be changed.
    Dr. A. Sreekumar

    • @misterhill5598
      @misterhill5598 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are scratching at the surface in the right direction.
      I recommend looking up Corbett Report episode 286: "Rockefeller Medicines"

  • @ineedstuff8286
    @ineedstuff8286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    how about a ted talk on how truth will never be in a ted talk.... and no matter WHAT the info is in a talk, it will have misleading and subversive goal.

    • @alfiedemmon4132
      @alfiedemmon4132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Care to elaborate?

    • @grassfireu
      @grassfireu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      God bless you.
      Whoever reads this will not understand until it happens to them: The truth cannot be told; it can only be learned.

    • @PatRiot-
      @PatRiot- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alfiedemmon4132 I think the point is more on: Ted still has filters for what they ALLOW a Ted to be or not be.
      They can control what info they let out and with that control they could also promote their own opinions/agendas by ensuring the topics are controversial- but still stay within the opinion Tedx holds.
      Who knows though

    • @terrapax8554
      @terrapax8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henle-Koch Postulate.....

    • @theosakonas1995
      @theosakonas1995 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ignorance is bliss

  • @PigBig66
    @PigBig66 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Didn’t AZT turn out to be unsafe and ineffective? Surely everyone knows this. How did it move on patient safety or innovation? I fear you are in marketing mode for BP. God help you.

    • @sandtx4913
      @sandtx4913 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dr. Sam Bailey made some interesting videos on her channel and website re H I V, v i r u s e s and more and the l i e s of the medical industry. Please watch them. I think there are also some videos of dr Jason Fung about cancer.

  • @laurasofiaruedafernandez4635
    @laurasofiaruedafernandez4635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can you please enable community contribution setting so that we may add translated subtitles? Very wonderful talk and would like to share but most of my colleagues don't have such great english :(

    • @blanchy
      @blanchy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you say Netflix and chill in Spanish?

    • @Yousseftvb
      @Yousseftvb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ahora tenemos subtitulos en youtube.
      Sin embargo, les advierto sobre este discurso, totalmente mentiroso y manipulador.
      Un sesgo dado por los datos, de las grandes farmacéuticas, juego total del interés corporativo de esta presentación.
      no se corresponde con la realidad académica actual.

  • @MichaelLuchiesTrepRep
    @MichaelLuchiesTrepRep 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great talk Dr. Holt. I had no idea of what led to those life-saving campaigns and the people behind them. Thanks for your work and the work of your colleagues.

  • @g.s.5868
    @g.s.5868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    medicine = big profits, no need to CURE anything, they would lose their rich $$$ life

    • @ZagrosianKurd
      @ZagrosianKurd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      jim dee are u for real?

    • @michaeljohnson1117
      @michaeljohnson1117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not doctor's, pharmaceutical companies, they focus on covering up symptoms, only things they actually cure are things like hep c, that you can live with for decades without even noticing. Cancer can be cured with nitrilicides found in many fruit seeds. But you can't make billions off seeds so now it's illegal to even suggest publicly that they could even help. They claim it's toxic cause one of it's compounds has cyanide in it. But if that's the case, why salt kill you? It's a compound of sodium (which bursts into flame when submerged in water) and extremely toxic chlorine, but salt is completely harmless cause your body can't break down the compound.

    • @embededfabrication4482
      @embededfabrication4482 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your mistaken in thinking they are "withholding cures". Science is incapable of discovering these "cures". Instead the pharmaceutical industry just puts lipstick on pigs no better than what we already have in order to profit.

  • @sneakyyellowdog
    @sneakyyellowdog 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¡Maravillosa!

  • @RektemRectums
    @RektemRectums 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "We cling unto every word of wisdom that pours forth from our Lord God Dr Fauci's mouth" - modern day

    • @Yousseftvb
      @Yousseftvb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this Dr. is a liar and sold to the industry.

  • @Fazman81
    @Fazman81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Depends if its type 1 or type 2 Diabetes which can be reversed according to Dr Jason Fung and others and their studies.

    • @terrietalbert4503
      @terrietalbert4503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr. Gabriel Cousens most awesome 🤩 book “ there is a cure for diabetes”

    • @PO-cx2ej
      @PO-cx2ej 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The possibility of reversal depends on many factors, but T2D and especially prediabetes is reversible in some cases when the patient had the diagnosis a few years before at most.

    • @vincentkingsdale8334
      @vincentkingsdale8334 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Intermittent fasting, exercise, and eating healthy will cure type 2

    • @PO-cx2ej
      @PO-cx2ej 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vincentkingsdale8334 Be careful with the word ''cure''. The ADA deliberated on which word to use and determined that ''Remission'' should be used. The word ''Reversal'' is not popular either in the realm of diabetes medicine. I have yet to find a satisfying definition for ''reversal'', but it would certainly require the full recovery of the beta cells function. A remission doesn't guarantee this. A cure would be that there would be no sequelaes left whatsoever after many years of reission, which is very unlikely as diabetes can induce profound changes in someones body.

  • @fredpauser6228
    @fredpauser6228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    She did not describe lies. She described fear-driven incorrect perceptions. Not the same thing. Calling those early perceptions "lies" is not being truthful.
    When people (including doctors) are fearful they tend to be irrational and say ridiculous things.

    • @georgeduncan5178
      @georgeduncan5178 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fred Pauser You R Right!!!

    • @1dayfree
      @1dayfree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      She is a liar full stop. HIV has been proven to never have existed and the medical community knew and covered it up. The whole of western medicine is built on a house of cards of lies. Same as Science. Absolute deception.

    • @raanchol5955
      @raanchol5955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Freedom from Tyranny Rex the same as type 2 diabetes, how do people trust these blood test or check. Most of majority of this century are actually disease mongers for profit making mechanism.

    • @hey0173
      @hey0173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1dayfree it has been proven, ur just too lazy to look it up

    • @1dayfree
      @1dayfree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hey0173hahaha that is the most moronic comment yet.. Thanks for the laugh!

  • @tweesttopher3035
    @tweesttopher3035 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thts wild

  • @clydebermingham121
    @clydebermingham121 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I usually highly regard TED TALKS … but from now on … I will have to be more cautious …
    This speakers remarks on Chemo Therapy is where she loses me

    • @sandtx4913
      @sandtx4913 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too until c o v i d, that's when I noticed it seems to act like a mind c o n t r o l medium, steering the m i n d s of the populis. It is c o n trolled. Rupert Sheldrick did a talk that was taken down. I can't remember what it was about though but I think Before Skool used it in his video.

  • @RachaelCoakleyPhD
    @RachaelCoakleyPhD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a thoughtful and poignant retrospective on how our culture first fears deadly diseases and then, with help that can come from the most unsuspecting places, rallies to change the tide. I see this trend not only with medicine, but with gender equality and mental health stigma as well. Clearly, there's more work to be done and I hope your empowering messages truly resonate with everyone. Thank you, Dr. Holt!

    • @alanroberts7916
      @alanroberts7916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Put global warming in the list that starts with fear and ends with help from an unlikely source... like young people in smaller countries.

  • @0zoneTherapyW0rks
    @0zoneTherapyW0rks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ozone Therapy, folks. Listen to the King of science, Nikola Tesla. He knew.

  • @SB-xs8js
    @SB-xs8js ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably one of the most disturbing speeches I've seen

  • @MedEthics1
    @MedEthics1 ปีที่แล้ว

    First, I would like to thank Dr. Holt for this enlightening presentation. I knew that diseases such as HIV, cancer, leprosy, and tuberculosis have been stigmatized in the past but I did not know about the efforts that certain individuals went through to change that. Although so much work has been done to reverse the damage stigmatization of diseases has caused, it still very much exists today, especially for diseases such as HIV and mental health disorders. Although the discrimination may be more subtle these days, it still impacts the lives of many.
    For example, a patient that experiences stigmatization will likely develop poor mental health and be less likely to adhere to their treatment protocol, resulting in poor health outcomes. As a physician, it is their duty to do no harm and to do what is in the best interest of the patient-the ethical principle of non-maleficence and beneficence, respectively-which includes fighting stigmatization and advocating for their patient. This should include supporting the patient’s mental health and working through the trauma they receive from their diagnosis being stigmatized. This could include referral to a mental health professional or to support groups that can understand what they are going through and provide a sense of community.
    Unfortunately, community is such a valuable part of life that is taken away so quickly from these patients. They go from being a regular person with friends and family to being completely isolated, whether that be out of medical necessity or from people suddenly ignoring their existence. This disappearance of once-reliable people can cause disastrous consequences on one’s health outcomes. The work that people like Mary Lasker did is amazing to me as it not only erased the negative connotation of the disease but it raised awareness and brought support to these marginalized individuals. It helped to restore their sense of community as people from all around the country wanted to offer their support. Doing something like this and changing public opinion is no small effort and must have required an incredible amount of work and dedication.
    Unfortunately, this fight is still ongoing today as patients with stigmatizing diseases may still face judgement from their own communities, if not from the general public. For example, many minority groups do not recognize the reality of mental health issues. Even though the public opinion has started to shift on this, people may still be scared to seek help for fear of being ridiculed by their family or friends. This often results in people not getting the care they need until it is too late. The only way to overcome this is either through more public campaigns or for people to be their own self-advocates and fight for the care that they deserve. This is obviously much easier said than done, however. I love how Dr. Holt noted that changing how a disease is perceived is just as critical as anything coming out of a lab because we can't change medicine until we change opinions.

  • @Yousseftvb
    @Yousseftvb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FDA plays industry lobby. how many lies we see in this speech.

  • @thepatriotbangingxi4718
    @thepatriotbangingxi4718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She is so "soft" that is fake and weird and creepy.

  • @Yousseftvb
    @Yousseftvb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the cancer less deadly? He received how much to expose so much lie,
    a disrespect to society, and the academic class.

  • @HurricaneIrene07
    @HurricaneIrene07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So sad they have so politicized Covid.

  • @KATEB33ful
    @KATEB33ful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lyme disease.

  • @danielmedina2078
    @danielmedina2078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't believe anything Dr's say go to the witch doctor or shaman and get well.

  • @UTAH100
    @UTAH100 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was kind of a rambling talk. Get to the point quicker- stay on one topic so it is more clear.