Yeah, that is so so dumb. Like, loading screens are only implemented as a matter of necessity for the most part. When developers *can* make travel instant or have loading happen in the background they often will because being forced to wait is annoying, hell this was one of the big reasons Nintendo stuck with cartridges for the N64 over using CD-ROMs like all their competitors at the time. And how did he not know about the many, many games that make "WE HAVE NO LOADING SCREENS (in gameplay)" one of their selling points?
I was thinking "It's an RPG maker game how the fuck did they un-optimize this game so badly that it has loading screens for each map transition?" And somehow the actual reason was even more retarded than "the game just loads that badly".
I gotta say, haze's voice actor does an incredible job at portraying the inhuman amount of angst in his dialouge, I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a better fit
the interactions between Haze and the Bounty Hunters read like 14 year olds rping on a message board both trying to be the coolest person in the interaction.
Maybe this was all the writer's rp sessions reorganized and rewritten as a story. Like Record of Lodoss War, but replace the fantasy war with child molestation.
@@cro-magnoncarol4017 Here's the worst part, the number of people who have characters like this in the adulthood is harrowing. Eris and Haze wouldn't even be the worst I've seen.
I am having to take frequent breaks because the vicarious embarrassment is simply too much to handle. I am quite literally not strong enough to watch through it all in one sitting.
What makes the dialogue even better is that the characters who aren’t Haze or who aren’t closely related to Haze in any way actually respond somewhat normally. And by that I mean they realize they’re talking to a crazy person
Nah, Haze is by far a more likable person than anything Grugly could ever dream up. If anything, I think it's a testament to the quality of Haze's VA that I think Haze has some charm to him.
If someone doesn't want to do something but they're forced to do it, it doesn't matter how "sEx PoSiTiVe" it might be, it will erode dignity and self respect.
I've heard almost word for word that conversation with a stripper. We were a couple of friends at a club and my friend revealed his a savior complex to stripper. She was ..fu c k you weirdo, I like my job and make a lot of money.
Sam Raimi wanted to do this instead of "Pizza Time" in the script for Spiderman, but Tobey Maguire slapped him with a slice of pizza after reading it, and realized that Tobey was the best Spiderman ever. That thought remains true to this day.
This game is like a time capsule of 2000s internet cringe. The edginess, bad art, clear self-insert characters, its like an AI was asked to amalgamate every shitty deviant art account into a RPG maker game.
Reminds me of some of the edgier stuff on Newsgrounds, hell, the psych is voiced by a guy who basically built his VA career on voicing old Newsgrounds flash games.
Since we see Craig’s wife at dinner with Haze, I can’t tell which is funnier: Craig is doing the whole “cop obsessed with one who got away” thing over a case where his wife was shot but not killed, or Craig is relentlessly pursuing his wife’s killer, but also decided to move on romantically.
@@killercat970 Considering she never speaks I was assuming she was a mannequin or taxidermied. It seemed like the direction this game would go. Considering the game never continued, for all we know that could be canon
Haze's voice actor definitely hard carries this game. I think the VA realized that Haze SHOULD be an annoying edgy punk teen, rather than how the story writes him to be an 'Epic Pwnz0r Edgelord'.
I like to imagine the VA for Haze deadass thought they were VAing for the twist villain the whole time, like he was playing a Adachi type character or something.
Could you fucking imagine if this was all a bit and after the prologue Haze becomes the villain? Like if in MGS2 Solid Snake actually was the leader of Dead Cell.
I assumed that was where it was going, that he molested her and completely buried the memory and started hunting pedos to maintain the mental block. I don't even know what we got instead.
@@WTFisTingispingisthe game was actually supposed to switch perspectives between Haze and a Psychologist at the hospital called Dr Samson every chapter. Haze does not become a real villain in any of the chapters, except if you count when a character tries to avenge one of the people Haze killed.
I love the fact that the Therapist Is thrown out a window and Is still In therapy mode while saying: *"I'm not your enemy, Haze!"* The guy may be the literal worst therapist In fiction, but might as well be the most dedicated one ever as well.
the worst/best part about this game is that the voice acting is actually pretty good. like, craig’s VA did a really good job, in my opinion. and gianni matragano is in this fucking thing. holy shit
Holy shit. I hope he bought some nice things with this paycheck, forgot he was ever in this game, then had flashbacks when he got the role of Gabriel in ULTRAKILL.
@@twerkfromhome civvie already lives in a special correctional facility and is marked by a number, you really want him to be marked by a check mark too?
You mean best detective. You think that prat LOWRY would have solved the mystery of the droods when he's so busy arranging books on his shelves to impress ladies?
I swear that guy's dialogue is strangely charming at times. Like an *almost* likable character, trying to break free before the writer yanks him back into his edgy sob-story.
It’s probably the fact that he quips constantly with a morbid albiet cheerful disposition and the scene setting up the bond with his sister. Aside from that, I found him totally insufferable and very aneurysm-inducing in his social interactions
I have read all 492 pages of the released script and I am here to let everyone know that Haze is named Haze because his parents named him Hazel and raised him as a girl for 9 years
A good way to get around this syndrome is having unopenable doors to imply more space, or pull a fallout: new vegas and have several poitlntless rooms to show space while chipping away at the players sanity
Dunno, i think it's perfect I literally remember myself fighting for SJW anti establishment shit when i was 18, arguing with my parents over trans/gay rights etc. Haze is perfect as he is, and represents himself perfectly.
Nah, it actually fits his character. Haze is legit the type of guy who would deck you in the face if you joke or say anything even slightly negative about other races or people from lgbt. EDIT: For the people replying to me that Haze is someone who says the n-word, this scene (1:02:38) is for you. Like I said, he will literally fight you for saying things like that.
Craig is the most tolerant, wholesome being to ever exist. Did the creator actually think we would sympathize with Haze after he treats that absolute saint with such contempt?
In a edgelord's point of view, any kind of people that see anything positive in humanity is a "sheep" that doesn't know the "truth" of how the world really works.
My psychoanalysis is that Craig is a fantasy of the writer. Like every edgelord from an abusive family, he dreams about someone like Craig in his life, but has to act tsundere towards him to keep up the edgelord facade.
>teenage protagonist gets in trouble for assault >all the adults around him hate him >is friends with someone who was sexually assaulted >starts committing crimes against terrible people in order to bring his own justice against a society that has failed him >has an uncomfortable relationship with a detective who begins to realize what is going on So this game is Persona 5
21:00 Fun fact: in my country there was actually a police unit breaking into a lan party because someone heard gunshots, which was just a bunch of teens playing CoD. The police then played a round with them before they left.
i love how the psychiatrist talks to the highly volatile person with anger management issues and casually goes"how do you feel about this *highly triggering event*" top tier move there doc
It's the unfortunate affliction in these kinds of stories where virtually every character aside from the protagonist is in some way deplorable or incompetent. If not both.
when i was younger i had some pretty bad anger issues i went to a psychiatrist and i was spoken to the same way lol im not some edgy teen this was 16 years ago
@@HolyApplebutter Twist ending: The protagonist's relatives were not harmed and he was the real monster. The fault of this game is not pulling a Spec Ops: The Line, with the protagonist being revealed to be a sociopathic POS and the real perpetrator of all these crimes, but convinced he's a noblebright hero from his sociopathic perspective.
Even if he wasn’t talking to HAZE of all people, starting a conversation with “how did you feel to the day your sister was raped” is a good way to get slapped and lose a client.
the worst thing about this game is that sometimes haze gets moments where he is SO CLOSE to being an actual decent/interesting character, but then he just whips right back to absurdity.
hes strangely compelling like a hyper light yagami type whos extremely outwardly abrasive but has such a virtuous yet childlike worldview but hes not really able to be *well written*
At the hands of a better writer I can definitely see a version of Haze that’s legitimately interesting. He’s an emotionally-stunted, pathologically-aggressive teenage serial killer who thinks he’s Holden Caulfield. That’s dripping with potential social commentary.
I think that people are overcritical with Haze, because everyone does treat Haze as a weirdo, he's not really liked by anyone except Craig. When confronted with people who have no qualms against hurting him, they do in fact try to kill him. The punks who chase him with knives, and Gabriel at the end. Anonymous Agony grips me in an odd way because it feels both super disconnected with reality yet super down to earth. If someone talked to you like Haze did in real life, you probably would have to just laugh it off or stay quiet like people do in the game. Later in the script a lot of Haze's personality is explored, it's not all good but the writer did have a planned message to tell, it's just that Haze is too much of a filter for people. You probably would just walk away from Haze in real life if you had the choice, just like you would choose not to play the game or read the script when you hear his dialogue.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick my point is: Yeah yeah, yeah Uh, stop rewinding the flow back This ain't your modern day new wave or throwback No jack, it's just a West Coast thing We shine brighter than the glow stick techno scene You'd better check your EXO-SKELLO-TEEN And if it ain't the same as ours, then we'll wreck your team I betcha, we gonna pressure, we twice as strong Homie, you ain't winnin' nothin, no, the price is wrong They sayin Brooklyn keep on makin' it, LA keep on takin' it Do this for the spray painted bridge with the break you kids Black tops where we play since '86 Fake chrome spinners in the place of Mercedes rims Busted our Mercedes Benz Blew up on the 405, no one's never seen it since Uh, I don't sweat that though I think it's best if we just let that go Here we go Just step back and relax your mind (yeah my style is so laid back) Don't stop now, just press rewind (I'll give them something they can playback) Let music be the one to define (yeah I heard them when they say that) Nieve, won't you please playback (so I give them something they can playback) Another moment, another day on these modern times I wanna show them that when I flow on this it's more than rhymes It's more than anyone expected Feel it in my soul, like it's burning in my intestine Best in class, now they calling me professor Put me on the pedestal and wait for me to mess up Little do they know that I'm never gonna crash and burn Why the ones who know it all, always last to learn They call me Nieve, cause I always had a dream That I'll make it to the top from the bottom of the heap So no matter what they speak or the words they choose to throw against me Don't test me, don't mess my shoes They'll play me dirty, I'll never lose sleep or wake up early Cause you'll never gonna move me from my slot 11:30 on the Late Night Showing that I'm putting up a great fight Go ahead, poke and try to make my, take my Just step back and relax your mind (yeah my style is so laid back) Don't stop now, just press rewind (I'll give them something they can playback) Let music be the one to define (yeah I heard them when they say that) Nieve, won't you please playback (so I give them something they can playback) 5 years old, I was turning melodies into gold, yeah, yeah Some people said (some people said) Some people said I don't fit the mold (no I don't fit the mold) But now my flow is so solid, and it takes away your soul (yeah, yeah) Leaving you astonished and losing all control (say what, say what) Nieve (yeah Nieve) I always had this dream (uh huh), to be the best I can be (yeah, yeah) Soon they're gonna see (come on, come on) Quick, give me the mic and let me spit it If I grab it from you swift, don't worry I'll let you finish It's been so long, since I heard something that wasn't so raw So I tell my stories in my own song Try to get them right from the get go, so they never let go Though everybody's got an opinion and so it's stressful They love the stress yo, I keep it high grade That's why I'm keeping it moving while on the highway So if you try to pull me over I'll have to pull a maneuver before I floor it on my rover Here's a move I never showed ya, switched my style It's no fair when they're squarer than a kitchen towel Step past them, I'm living with a passion Written the lyrics on my napkin Mixed with the skills that be built from my blood and bones That you gotta play it back, yo I love this song Just step back and relax your mind (yeah my style is so laid back) Don't stop now, just press rewind (I'll give them something they can playback) Let music be the one to define (yeah I heard them when they say that) Nieve, won't you please playback (so I give them something they can playback) Playback Nieve (so won't you playback?) Oh Nieve, playback Nieve Playback Nieve (won't you playback Nieve?) Oh Nieve, playback Nieve (won't you playback Nieve?)
I love how much comedy comes from Craig just being a lovely lame dude who very much wants to adopt Haze, almost treating him like he's an angry wet stray cat in the process (which is accurate). Those subs were the equivalent of Craig going "pspspspspspsps" while shaking a bag of treats at Haze and it working.
@@Scatmanseth I agree and disagree I feel like if his wife was harmed in a non lethal manner it would not fuck up Craig and make him obsessive with solving the case that seems like more like the dead wife detective archetype However I think the Author probably forgot that they gave Craig that story and literally put in that scene with the “second” wife as they needed it to progress the story and add some pressure esp because after that Craig’s whole obsessive/weird tendency is never resolved
It's things like this that really give me tremendous respect for Voice Actors. The ability to read what's on the page despite God and Sanity telling you to do anything else is a skill that is hard fucking won.
I looked up Haze's voice actor and it is Matt Shipman who has a bunch of big anime dubbing roles. This might have been his first role based on the timeframe.
The "it must have loading screens because all AAA games have loading screens" is what really cemented the "haze is the creator hidden persona" idea. Lol this game was a trip to watch.
I have never physically cringed as hard as I did until the scene between Haze and Scarlet. It's like the writer watched that scene in Taxi Driver uncritically then thought "I would do that too, but cooler."
I mean, we don’t know what Craig is like in his work life. Hell, the one thing we know about Craig’s job is that he’s obsessively pouring over evidence to try and hunt down the guy who attacked his wife. Not to mention that he seemingly has a fixation on Haze after his wife got injured, his son moved away, and he was present at Haze’s house when Clara got taken away. Maybe it would have been revealed in a sequel that Craig was aware the entire time of Haze’s killing spree, but turned a blind eye because he was able to live vicariously through him. Haze is both a surrogate son Craig can help raise, and somebody who’s able to follow through on his revenge in a way that Craig cannot.
It's been said before but I need to emphasize the same point. Haze's voice actor carries this video game so much. He was given a steaming pile of shit to work with but his delivery is done with so much earnestness and sincerity that you'd think he genuinely thinks he's Haze. I hope that guy is getting more gigs because he did a fantastic job here.
im pretty certain the VA is matt shipman, who has done a lot of english dub voicework!! this game isn't on his wiki (shocker) but im pretty sure its him- its on his imdb page
He's the nicest and most likable character... so he'll prolly be turn out to be the head of the conspiracy or something. The writer of this thing is the person who insisted on loading screens because "all the big games have loading screens" so he'll prolly need a good twist to "elevate the plot" because all the good games have big, unexpected twists. I'm half-joking, of course.
>Edgy protagonist >bugged game >RPG Maker >A lot of cursing >Haze hates everyone >Serious situation fucked up by RPG Maker > *ＳＯＣＩＥＴＹ* Dude i heard Yiik is in discount right now, i heard is pretty good
at least it isn't mechanically tedious on a moment to moment like YIIK. Spending double digit seconds to do single digit damage QTE on every bloody attack is a nightmare.
I fucking knew this game reminded me of YiiK (though being forty minutes in I think even *this game* isn't quite up to YiiK's level of just... existence).
@@errortryagainlater4240 No real law enforcement, self-proclaimed bounty hunters running around, therapist having no idea about his job. And then you have Craig, who is not only the single competent person, he is too nice to live in such environment. This makes him look not like a cop but undercover warden gathering intel on all the madness that happens there. Why the hell "edge-zone" explains whole game so well
A common thing around here is some parents make their kids "pick the switch" (branch off a tree) in the yard for them to get punished with. Seeing Kingpin not even lift a finger just doesn't compute with what Haze says to him.
@@MandaloreGaming I have picked my own switch. I can confirm this is true or at least was, who knows now. Oh and the comment about the belt, yep I've heard the noise of a belt passing through belt loops so fast it should of broke the sound barrier lol
This is the first game of Mandy's I've actually considered skipping through the cringe was so strong. By far the scariest thing this Halloween season, bravo.
I know. I can't get past the first 5 minutes without succumbing to cringe overdose. It's not Mandalore's fault and I would love to watch the whole thing like I do Limbo and the Droods, but the cringe is so toxic, it's radioactive at this point.
@@georgevatkov3213 Droods was fun, I wonder when he'll review Moment of Silence. I can't wait for the "Overclocked History of Violence" streams to start
@@cyberninjazero5659 i think moment of silence is just too barren to even talk about, it's just a big pile of nothing. a particle of dust floating through space with no destination nor purpose. a gust of wind ruffling some leaves on a tree among countless others in a forest.
He really is awesome, though does anyone else get some "Ryotaro Dojima" from Persona 5 vibes from the guy? Dojima prolly wouldn't take the amount of shit Craig does from Haze but I can't help but see some parallels there. And not just the "haunted cop" archetype they share but also in the whole "actually nice guy who doesn't know how to properly relate to the teenager he's in charge of" part. Best character in the game hands down, though.
Craig is best girl. I thought it was funny that his wife was shot in some case that haunts him but now he and his (new? same?) wife live together and appear to have an adult child and the case is presumably not mentioned again.
Actually, according to the 429-page manuscript of the game (yes, really) it was because he was raised as a girl for the first 9 years of his life & named "Hazel". I am not kidding.
what confuses me to this day is why the police officer starts off being the 'hunt down my wife's hooter' obsessive type but then we see him being pretty wholesome with a very much unshot wife. It CONFOUNDS me
@@ibragimowbekhan0987 it genuinely never occurred to me that his shot wife and his current wife might be the same person. I guess because if your wife was shot (seemingly randomly) and you obsessed over the case, it kinda implies she died and wasn't just a victim of random violence. Although it does explain why Craig's coworkers think he's weird for not dropping the case.
@@marcoe.3314 It's a specific form of butterfly effect, where certain scenarios, beliefs or whatever you currently wish to complain about is the consequence of all the cogs of society going in a particular direction. I know Americans change aggregation state when that name falls, but Karl Marx for instance argued that the basic assumption of people being greedy is only the consequence of living a society that encourages that kind of behavior. If you want to argue, argue about "blaming society for your stupid decisions". I don't care about communism/I hate communism/I love communism are all the plausible opinions, pick the one you agree with and leave me alone.
@@Vamoss39 it is also pinned in the fan server in the "Development Room" thread. The link to the fan server should be in a steam update I think also linked on the steam. Please let me know if the invite link is dead.
> Edge: "People are self-serving, nobody does anything nice for each other!" > Edge, literally immediately after: "I'm sorry I broke your vase, let me give you some kind platitudes to show that I totally do care and feel honest regret for my failings." I can only hope the writer was being insightful and trying to reveal that Haze talks a big game, but lacks insight in regards to his own behavior. But that might be expecting too much.
We usually call the sudden transition juxtaposition bipolar, or a lapse of sanity, or both. Perhaps keeping and eating the whole cake at the same time. I'd say we are all self-serving, and do everything for selfish reasons - the issue is everyone saying being generally selfish is wrong. I feel good about myself when I donate money to kids for their lunches, or for their Christmas presents. I do it, because the idea of giving to the needy and those unable to provide for themselves, makes me happy, makes me feel good. Even sacrificing your life for another is selfish, whether its because you love them, or someone you care about loves them, either way we'd do it because of how we feel personally regardless of the reason, especially since if its a family member, you aren't thinking of how unhappy you'll make them seeing you die in front of them, and how guilty they'd likely feel for their entire life - I'd say suicide is the most selfish act of all, yet I can understand if someone, say, suffers from the real illness of sudden explainable, excruciating pain that suddenly started and never will go away. I think kids and teens have a hard time understanding what being selfish full entails due to what we are told and what we tell morality is, how its a very natural and sane way we all are. How can you show another real love, if you don't love yourself? Think someone who loves you can stand seeing you not love yourself for long? How can you help someone drowning or starving if you cannot swim and are drowning or starving, too. So its important to try and take care of yourself first, otherwise how will you help anyone to being with? A mother needs to first feed herself to produce milk for her baby. Putting self first isn't wrong nor evil. Not all selfish acts are somehow impossible to also be what we'd call giving, or selfless. And giving for your own personal hate, or greed, or lust is nonetheless giving. I'd not care if my top notch surgeon loves his job because the sight of guts, blood, bone, sinew and how it feels when he cuts it is why he loves and does his job - I care he does a good job. At the same time, I've seen people do what we'd call altruistic because they are guilty of a crime and want to feel better they committed a crime. Motive really makes a massive difference if you truly want to judge someones actions for yourself. Some terrible people do terrible things, but they feel they serve the greater good, the world is mess, its grey not black and white, and its not orderly, its not a yes-or-no universe, neither is humanity. Its why some say to clean the inside of a cup before cleaning the outside - what is inside us, our motives and reason, matter more in a sense than what we actually do if you want to judge morally. Its more important that what you put pour out and consume into yourself is clean, more than how you appear outwardly. Looking clean and being clean are two different, yet somewhat relatable things. A teen blowing the head off someone being legal or illegal can come down to if you are in the military or not, not about the morality of firearms or even age. It comes down to intent. Killing another race of human can be racist, or it could be heroic depending on the situation. It could even be the same person, and you killed them for the same hateful and petty reason, but in one situation its going to be justified by anyone who thinks it was done purely in service to ones country, out of a sense of duty, honor, and desire to protect your family, and do the dirty and dangerous work for the fellow countryman and woman who may well be oblivious they are, in part, why you are able to be a soldier. Even if they never asked you to be.
That's just the writer's own behavior. He is a manipulative self-serving schizo who will abuse you, then blame some mental issue/trauma for his outburst and beg your forgiveness, only to repeat the pattern until you had enough of his bullshit. Look for the stories people who worked with him have about him, is no exaggeration, he is "literally Haze".
If the dialogue is written genuine and not with that intent in mind, it might give some meta-insight in form of a peek in the mind of the Lead Developer, aka "Literally Haze". Either way your theory checks out, I'd say.
It even has its own time stamp. Yes, I know this is an old comment but I watch all Mandalore’s videos at least a 3/4 times. Except Droods. I can’t stop watching that one. Must have been 12 times already.
i don't know what is more scary, the fact that the creator of this is "literally haze", or that this game makes you sympathize with him anyways haze is literally me
I'm slowly putting together a list of timestamps with all of Craig's appearances (a Craigslist, if you will) because he is the best part of this game 5:38 11:07 12:28 20:39 26:05 30:05 47:53 53:40 1:00:55 (smoothie time) 1:16:39
Honestly the voice acting in this game is like way too good for the plot. The person who voices Haze does an amazing job characterizing him, in spite of having to read Hazes lines to do so
My favorite part is how he makes fun of his sister for how she curses, yet he curses like a 10 year old who just watched an R rated movie for the first time
Most psychiatrists and therapists have a specific status that literally require them to alert the police if a patient even alludes to elderly, disabled, or child abuse. So ya, Edwin is the worst psychiatrist in all fiction and would be arrested for malpractice in real life.
I think anything that indicates an actual threat to real people is supposed to trigger an alert. Like you’ll probably get chucked in a padded cell. In theory at least.
@@braedenmclean5304 I'm glad someone else recognized Dan's voice. But calling him by the name Edwyn here works even better because that's his real name.
@@abrahamjohnathan8389 not really. you'd have to obey both secular laws regarding your therapist profession and religious laws as a catholic priest. also you'd probably have to ask the patient whether you are there for a therapy session or confession, but i'm not really sure since i've never met a catholic priest-therapist. would be an interesting combo though.
@@WobblesandBean Actually, I thought of a theory while thinking about this game at work. For about 90% of this game, none of what happens is real: instead, it's just a fantasy dreamt up in Haze's head in order to cope with what happened to his sister. Haze tossing the psychiatrist through the window? Didn't happen; was just a fantasy. Haze luring predators to his home and feeding them to junkyard dogs? Didn't happen; was just a fantasy. Haze teaming up with a sword wielding bounty hunter to defeat a guy selling women? Didn't happen; was just a fantasy. The ONLY "real" parts of this game are the beginning and the end. That would explain why Haze can't bring himself to actually shoot the man who harmed his sister: *he had never shot anyone before in his entire life. That's why he had the "fatal hesitation" moment when it came time to pull the trigger: he couldn't actually work up the nerve to go through with it.*
…holy shit this game is like, peak edgy Western anime fandom of the early 00’s. I’m half expecting Haze to rant about how Sasuke Uchiha is the greatest character ever and that Naruto should have been completely about him.
@@andrewmcclean823 thats still around the eight time-frame. I remember a bunch of edgy stuff like that from that part of my life, tho it was petering out. Its also worth noting some sources say it was initially released in 2012
The therapist scene makes it... disturbingly clear that whoever made this has never seen a therapist. If they wanted realism, they should have had a radio playing ocean wave noises in the corner, a receptionist that was just a little too friendly, and the thermostat set a little high.
Also your hour of therapy started when you got here ten minutes early to wait outside and is ending ten minutes early because got more important things to do.
I'm surprised that it was explicitly stated, but it doesn't surprise me that he is given that he's clearly inspired by Light Yagami. Light never showed any genuine interest in people romantically or sexually.
According to the script, he was also raised as a girl for nine years. So...probably an aroace trans dude. Not the most wholesome representation, but hey. It...exists.
He's an unimaginable combination of insane shit. He's not racist. He's ANTI racist. He's committed multiple murders. He's good with kids. He curses out everyone he meets. He kills pedophiles. He helps child prostitutes escape slavery for no reason. He's somehow still so hard to not hate. .........He's asexual? .......Haze is short for 'Hazel' bc he was treated as female for the first 9 years of his life, which would probably make him trans in any scenario except for the fucking one that birthed this character?
@@timothymclean no matter what anyone says, haze in my heart is an aroace trans man. nobody can change my mind about this, partly because i like the rep (even if he is also a hugely edgy weirdo) and mostly because i think it's the funniest thing on the planet if he is any of those things and it's just not elaborated on in THIS game, of all games
"If this exact scene came out in a david cage game people would probably make arguments about it being art" is the best scathing review of every david cage game
For me, David Cage games are obviously fucking awful (other than Heavy Rain which I consider legitimately good) but they are at least entertaining while you're along for the ride. This game however is fucking agonising.
@@memeomeme8351 I think Heavy Rain has some unforgivable shenanigans like the whole antique shop sequence which straight up has to lie to the player to not ruin the entire story. And then there's the scene in the junkyard which just seems comically racist at best. But it's Quantic Dream's best work... which is unfortunate. I think Until Dawn pretty much accomplished the same style of game but much better.
I love that the therapist's VA seemed like he was constantly teetering on the edge of doing a Dr. Loomis impersonation. All of the voice actors seriously contributed so much to the overal entertainment value of the game, it's reminiscent of doing dramatic readings of shitty fanfiction with your friends
I actually did a search, and apparently Eris Helbrandt is the OC of her voice actress and actually a _knight_ in some other game(?!) Anonymous Agony deadass crossed over with a medieval fantasy, of all things. Because the voice cast needed wish fulfillment too.
Everything in this game is so much, but... Craig just hits my dopamine centers just right. He is kind of adorable, tries so hard, and is an almost aggressively soft man. I nearly lost it when he came to borrow the blender. He's just such a golden retriever that even Haze ends up stumbling. Craig is the secret star of this game.
"That's what a teenager would fantasize about saying" Yeah, I think my soul took that as a coping mechanism and applied that to the rest of the game, just one long drawn out fantasy probably something he dreamed up one night and continued writing out during class with that weird S in the margins
Honestly, Haze getting fucked up at the end could have been a fitting ending. Like, he gets so lost in his own delusions that he thinks taking down a hardened criminal will be like his sneak attacks against the others and instead he loses big time. Thing is, that would have required the game acknowledging that Haze is just a troubled kid and not an actual badass so I'm guessing the next part would have just treated the ending as his Zenkai boost.
Happy Halloween! I'm sorry for cursing you this way.
The son of Cain curses back.
Happy Halloween!!
Its cool i know a curse to get you back.
Eventually the curses cancel out, so you're fine
Thanks for releasing a feature length film on what looks like a Deviant Art project.
Time to watch it twice in a row.
EDIT: why
40:58
Fake loading screens because the dev thought it would be cool. This is ascended game design.
In game design, we call that SOUL
That’s actually kinda funny, I could imagine that being in a game making fun of game tropes.
@@vaughnrudy8084 SOVL
You have loading screen pop up because the area isn't ready yet
I have loading screens because it looks cool
We are not the same
@@alexiosmonary3388 based
This game is a CIA psyop to test whether you can kill a man with weaponized cringe.
LMFAO
looool
10 minutes in and I'm reminded of my deviantart days
This is kinda backed up by the game's lore.
Results inconclusive.
The reveal of the fake loading screens because the creator thought "real games all have loading screens" damn near gave me a stroke.
Yeah, that is so so dumb. Like, loading screens are only implemented as a matter of necessity for the most part. When developers *can* make travel instant or have loading happen in the background they often will because being forced to wait is annoying, hell this was one of the big reasons Nintendo stuck with cartridges for the N64 over using CD-ROMs like all their competitors at the time. And how did he not know about the many, many games that make "WE HAVE NO LOADING SCREENS (in gameplay)" one of their selling points?
Peter Griffin here to explain the joke, the game doesn't need loading screens yet they put them in the game, hope this helps
Wtf is with the comments on this comment
Ngl, that would be hilarious in a deliberately satirical game if you had to figure out for yourself that the screens weren't even real.
I was thinking "It's an RPG maker game how the fuck did they un-optimize this game so badly that it has loading screens for each map transition?" And somehow the actual reason was even more retarded than "the game just loads that badly".
This is like if Light Yagami was the protagonist of Persona 4 all wrapped up with the writing prowess of My Immortal.
It either does or doesnt help that Clara looks like a knockoff Nanako
This is truly a sentence of all time.
The Persona 4 aspect is so weirdly specific yet so on point 😂
Craig does have a Dojima vibe to him
@@zenbrandonGreat smoothies.
haze's family is a literal call of duty modern warfare lobby
The question is, who uses the riot shield, haze, or his dad?
@@SwampGreen14 😂😂
Your comment made my day🤣
His dad named him after his gamertag. Seriously though stratos sounds like the kind of last name a final fantasy character would have
@@SwampGreen14 his dad uses the riot shield. Haze absolutely uses the one man army loadout just to get his daily slurs
I gotta say, haze's voice actor does an incredible job at portraying the inhuman amount of angst in his dialouge, I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a better fit
He sounds like the dude from The Cosmonaut Variety Hour YT channel.
@@mikedrop4421 Or Luke Correia (a meme voiceover channel)
Leafy? Is it you?
I honestly think the voice actor might be the edge lord that made the game. Theres just no other way.
@@scordova98 the thing is this game is interesting in a fucked up way it’s at least not boring
"Because you're beautiful." She says as Haze walks down the street in a wifebeater and chain.
Such a pity for the ladies (and the gentlemen who are that way inclined) that he's asexual.
1:08:36
@@runningcommentary2125 No one has any sort of inclination towards this guy
@@spacefriend6588 you're jealous you don't get that society made love
He's got that early level GTA Online character Drip
the interactions between Haze and the Bounty Hunters read like 14 year olds rping on a message board both trying to be the coolest person in the interaction.
Maybe this was all the writer's rp sessions reorganized and rewritten as a story. Like Record of Lodoss War, but replace the fantasy war with child molestation.
@@InternetHydraBrand new sentence, i guess.
I mean, both characters are about as likeable as your typical role-player...
@@cro-magnoncarol4017 Here's the worst part, the number of people who have characters like this in the adulthood is harrowing. Eris and Haze wouldn't even be the worst I've seen.
The dialogue is so gut wrenchingly cringe that hearing mandalore sounds like hearing the voice of God himself welcoming me into heaven
I am having to take frequent breaks because the vicarious embarrassment is simply too much to handle. I am quite literally not strong enough to watch through it all in one sitting.
When he joked, "God he's so cool" I had to say outloud at the video, "Please don't scare me like that, Mandalore."
To be fair, Mandalore sounds like that regardless.
ikr
@@BRuh-tf6uu and is that JCS that popped up around 55:00 / 56:00 ? when it paused ?
"I'd like to draw you"
"What are you some kinda artist"
Nothing escapes the gaze of Haze
Well except his sister
@@Sir_Bucket Just kill the guy next time, it’ll be kinder.
@@Sir_Bucket holy shit lmao
You can’t faze the Haze
@@enriqueemfloressanchez1728 you can't amaze the haze
What makes the dialogue even better is that the characters who aren’t Haze or who aren’t closely related to Haze in any way actually respond somewhat normally. And by that I mean they realize they’re talking to a crazy person
Yep.
Either they act normal or are completly derange so that Haze looks good in comparasion
It reminds me of Batman White Knight, where it feels like every character but Batman realised how insane everything around them is
With the exception of all of the other crazy people in the game, who are about on par with Haze.
LITERALLY. That’s what surprised me the most. Does that mean the writer was self aware? Did they themselves see Haze as cringe as he really is?
Haze is like a self insert Onision character except for the killing pedos instead of being one.
Nah, Haze is by far a more likable person than anything Grugly could ever dream up. If anything, I think it's a testament to the quality of Haze's VA that I think Haze has some charm to him.
@@ingasparrow Or it's a testament to your poor taste in people 😂
People with onision’s life experiences aren’t fated to become average, well-adjusted people.
@@psychokinrazalon they aren't fated to become edgy unhinged psychoes either
@@AbdulMuizz-s3r Typically they are.
"Wish money could buy your self respect back, but you'll have to find that by yourself." - Our hero to a victim of child sex trafficking
a savior complex AND a disdain for sex workers? truly, he is a man of high morals and a good man at heart.
@@spiderspit1911 b-based? LMAO
If someone doesn't want to do something but they're forced to do it, it doesn't matter how "sEx PoSiTiVe" it might be, it will erode dignity and self respect.
I've heard almost word for word that conversation with a stripper. We were a couple of friends at a club and my friend revealed his a savior complex to stripper. She was ..fu c k you weirdo, I like my job and make a lot of money.
@@spiderspit1911 Hey now, having disdain for voluntary prostitutes' is good and proper
*Brief awkward silence*
"Smoothie time."
The game is _almost_ worth playing for that one line.
I know, I snorted out loud at that
That was a work of art
Sam Raimi wanted to do this instead of "Pizza Time" in the script for Spiderman, but Tobey Maguire slapped him with a slice of pizza after reading it, and realized that Tobey was the best Spiderman ever.
That thought remains true to this day.
i DIED when he said that omg, best character fr XDDD
"smoothie time" has the same raw energy as "pizza time" Craig is a character and a half
This game is like a time capsule of 2000s internet cringe. The edginess, bad art, clear self-insert characters, its like an AI was asked to amalgamate every shitty deviant art account into a RPG maker game.
Reminds me of some of the edgier stuff on Newsgrounds, hell, the psych is voiced by a guy who basically built his VA career on voicing old Newsgrounds flash games.
The worst part is this probably came out in 2014
Newgrounds was/is so lame.
This feels like Simp: the game.
@@Tony_Cardoza Not as lame as most social media websites nowadays that's for sure, BY FAR.
Haze has a face that looks like he's constantly going to betray you.
Resting traitor face
Rewatching this video going through the comments when I read this at 4:47 and, man, Haze was not making his case at better at that frame
He has a perpetual hentai protag face, a resting bitch face
Even after he does the big reveal and betrays you you still expect him to betray you even more😂
were it not for his sister's assault, Haze would have gone on to sell used cars with suspiciously low odometers and mismatched VINs
Since we see Craig’s wife at dinner with Haze, I can’t tell which is funnier: Craig is doing the whole “cop obsessed with one who got away” thing over a case where his wife was shot but not killed, or Craig is relentlessly pursuing his wife’s killer, but also decided to move on romantically.
The first one make sense. He's probably paranoid over the perp coming back to finish the job
I don’t know why my brain assumed a third option: that Craig taxidermied his dead wife and just pretends she’s still alive.
@@killercat970 Considering she never speaks I was assuming she was a mannequin or taxidermied. It seemed like the direction this game would go. Considering the game never continued, for all we know that could be canon
I'm convinced shes meant to e dead but the writers forgot about it
@@waterbottle6644 this is BY FAR the most logical answer imo
The husband hating his wife's cooking and his wife hating his fatness seems like a self resolving issue
well no cus prolly he's fat cus he sneaks out to eat actual good most likely not healthy food.
Domestic equilibrium
😅 clever you
@@Arkuzian so he isnt cheating on his wife, he's cheating on his wife's cooking?
@@katatonikbliss finally it all makes sense. he goes to another woman to cook for him.
Haze's voice actor definitely hard carries this game. I think the VA realized that Haze SHOULD be an annoying edgy punk teen, rather than how the story writes him to be an 'Epic Pwnz0r Edgelord'.
That was sort of the direction we provided the actor LOL. DUH
@@CodedEmotion then it was perfect direction 💀👍
@@vj7248 Matt was a gem.
@@CodedEmotion you provided the direction? are you the “director”?
@@darylhall3858 I am the writer and director.
Clapping like a sitcom audience member every time Craig shows up.
Craig is too pure to even be a cop. He should have been like, a nurse or someshit.
"Smoothie Time"
*audience cheering*
@@areoants9453 Great vegetables!
@@areoants9453 My favorite part was when Craig said "It's smoothie time" and then smoothied all over the place.
_[Added to the list of: "Grown-men-to-start-calling-Babygirl"]_
I like to imagine the VA for Haze deadass thought they were VAing for the twist villain the whole time, like he was playing a Adachi type character or something.
I mean, he certainly *looks* like Adachi.
Could you fucking imagine if this was all a bit and after the prologue Haze becomes the villain? Like if in MGS2 Solid Snake actually was the leader of Dead Cell.
I assumed that was where it was going, that he molested her and completely buried the memory and started hunting pedos to maintain the mental block.
I don't even know what we got instead.
@@WTFisTingispingisthe game was actually supposed to switch perspectives between Haze and a Psychologist at the hospital called Dr Samson every chapter. Haze does not become a real villain in any of the chapters, except if you count when a character tries to avenge one of the people Haze killed.
@@WTFisTingispingis *THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE*
The author clearly expected everyone to walk away from this game saying, "Jesus... Haze is just like... The coolest dude ever."
Omg hes literally me
I can fix him
@@deathgobbler4774 Copium
Well everyone walked away from the game, so he got half of that right at least
@@diceman3219 someone watched the stream.
I love the fact that the Therapist Is thrown out a window and Is still In therapy mode while saying: *"I'm not your enemy, Haze!"*
The guy may be the literal worst therapist In fiction, but might as well be the most dedicated one ever as well.
i mean given how therapy tends to not exist in fictionland, he doesn't have a lot of competition
"Im not your enemy haze"
But you are now mine
Giving Dr Loomis a run for his money
I half expected him to say to haze “the blackest eyes, the devils eyes”
Guy gets an A for effort
the worst/best part about this game is that the voice acting is actually pretty good. like, craig’s VA did a really good job, in my opinion. and gianni matragano is in this fucking thing. holy shit
Wait, Gianni was in this!? Who did he play?!
@@spacefriend6588 he voiced the jesus pedophile
@@spacefriend6588GABRIEL. Gianni was born to play Gabriels in media.
hahaha born to voice diddle jesus @@zrust451
Holy shit. I hope he bought some nice things with this paycheck, forgot he was ever in this game, then had flashbacks when he got the role of Gabriel in ULTRAKILL.
I'm ready, Mandalore.
EDIT: I WAS NOT READY.
i.imgur.com/wdu7mVq.jpg
@@MandaloreGaming 🥵
Nobody was
Why do you not have a check mark? ✅
@@twerkfromhome civvie already lives in a special correctional facility and is marked by a number, you really want him to be marked by a check mark too?
I was hoping Craig would take off his mask and reveal that he is actually Halligan, Scotland Yard's worst detective.
You mean best detective. You think that prat LOWRY would have solved the mystery of the droods when he's so busy arranging books on his shelves to impress ladies?
Halligan is the best worst detective in fiction.
*best
If you think Halligan is bad, you should see Jack Orlando. He's a lot like Halligan, except he's not funny.
@@philipkelly7369 I heard Lowry doesn't even have a favorite pissa place
I swear that guy's dialogue is strangely charming at times. Like an *almost* likable character, trying to break free before the writer yanks him back into his edgy sob-story.
It's kinda similar to Detective Halligan, just replace the edgy sob-story with unhinged apathetic conspiracy nut .
@@WingMaster562 Doesn't ring a bell, to be honest. Was it a trash fire like AA?
@@eleanorsfate445 oh you're in for a treat then, because it seems like you have yet to watch the Mystery of the Druids review on this very channel
@@WingMaster562... I will keep you updated upon my inevitable suffering.
Edit: I regret everything.
It’s probably the fact that he quips constantly with a morbid albiet cheerful disposition and the scene setting up the bond with his sister. Aside from that, I found him totally insufferable and very aneurysm-inducing in his social interactions
I have read all 492 pages of the released script and I am here to let everyone know that Haze is named Haze because his parents named him Hazel and raised him as a girl for 9 years
Holy shit I thought you where joking but it's true
Where is this script?
Wait, that is not a joke???
I don’t think this is the trans representation that people want.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick😂😂
Oh my God, those maniacs did it. They distilled 2000s emo angst into a singularity and contained it in a game.
They were too preoccupied with whether they could, but didn't ask whether they should
"the power of the 2000s, in the palm of my hand..."
@@nisnastNo man should hold so much power!
They became Angst, Destroyer of Wrists
Great Scott
we are ignoring the bigger issue here. craig's house is literally just a kitchen.
Pokémon NPC house energy
A good way to get around this syndrome is having unopenable doors to imply more space, or pull a fallout: new vegas and have several poitlntless rooms to show space while chipping away at the players sanity
Wifey always stays in the kitchen if the entire house is the kitchen - Craig.
Smoothie time never ends
I don't know whats worse, it being just a kitchen, or the kitchen being almost fully carpeted, but there being a bare spot in front of the fridge.
"Haze not being racist almost seems like a plot hole"
holy shit my man
Dunno, i think it's perfect
I literally remember myself fighting for SJW anti establishment shit when i was 18, arguing with my parents over trans/gay rights etc.
Haze is perfect as he is, and represents himself perfectly.
Nah, it actually fits his character.
Haze is legit the type of guy who would deck you in the face if you joke or say anything even slightly negative about other races or people from lgbt.
EDIT: For the people replying to me that Haze is someone who says the n-word, this scene (1:02:38) is for you. Like I said, he will literally fight you for saying things like that.
@@andrewmarling nah he’s based
@@OmegaMercenary Stop, there's already enough cringe in the video.
@@cleanitupjanny7033 That implies anything he said was cringe.
the comedic timing of the cutscenes is perfect. the cozy RPG town music playing as his flesh-eating dogs all walked into frame single file killed me
This feels like one of those fanfiction novels Onision writes about himself.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS. Was wondering where I'd seen this behavior before.
LOL!!!!!
Chris Hansen did visit him once
Seems like he'd be a villain in this game
Haze has to quote more Nietzsche for that.
This is _Reaper's Creek._
Craig is the most tolerant, wholesome being to ever exist. Did the creator actually think we would sympathize with Haze after he treats that absolute saint with such contempt?
In a edgelord's point of view, any kind of people that see anything positive in humanity is a "sheep" that doesn't know the "truth" of how the world really works.
@@kaiosamatlj4031 ironic.
@@kaiosamatlj4031 So true... Whenever someone talks about humanity and how they're all born selfish I instantly know their age.
Craig is so obviously an insert of the dev step-dad
My psychoanalysis is that Craig is a fantasy of the writer. Like every edgelord from an abusive family, he dreams about someone like Craig in his life, but has to act tsundere towards him to keep up the edgelord facade.
“Haze not being racist feels like a plot hole.”
Lost it. Please continue making great comfy videos like this.
@@TheVisualNovel sounds like a democrat
I dunno how to explain it but comfy is the perfect word for his work. Perfect for watching in bed after sleeping late on a weekend
@@blackfrost9011 wait wtf. that’s literally what I’m doing too lol. guess you described it perfectly
lol
@@sellers737 hell of a way to spend a Sunday
>teenage protagonist gets in trouble for assault
>all the adults around him hate him
>is friends with someone who was sexually assaulted
>starts committing crimes against terrible people in order to bring his own justice against a society that has failed him
>has an uncomfortable relationship with a detective who begins to realize what is going on
So this game is Persona 5
Store brand Persona 5
K-Mart Persona 5
Lidl Persona 5
Lidl does have good bread though at least
@@rockstairTM depends, bakery bread is better. I'm german tho there are over 300 types of bread here.
21:00 Fun fact: in my country there was actually a police unit breaking into a lan party because someone heard gunshots, which was just a bunch of teens playing CoD. The police then played a round with them before they left.
Deutschland?
@@l.e.b.3541 Yeah
Did the cops win?
Please tell me the police played as the terrorist ™ of said cod game
Man, that COD might have had a really legit sound design to have to cop breaking in.
i love how the psychiatrist talks to the highly volatile person with anger management issues and casually goes"how do you feel about this *highly triggering event*" top tier move there doc
It's the unfortunate affliction in these kinds of stories where virtually every character aside from the protagonist is in some way deplorable or incompetent. If not both.
when i was younger i had some pretty bad anger issues i went to a psychiatrist and i was spoken to the same way lol im not some edgy teen this was 16 years ago
Move over Dr. Melfi, there's a worse shrink in the block
@@HolyApplebutter Twist ending: The protagonist's relatives were not harmed and he was the real monster. The fault of this game is not pulling a Spec Ops: The Line, with the protagonist being revealed to be a sociopathic POS and the real perpetrator of all these crimes, but convinced he's a noblebright hero from his sociopathic perspective.
Even if he wasn’t talking to HAZE of all people, starting a conversation with “how did you feel to the day your sister was raped” is a good way to get slapped and lose a client.
the worst thing about this game is that sometimes haze gets moments where he is SO CLOSE to being an actual decent/interesting character, but then he just whips right back to absurdity.
hes strangely compelling like a hyper light yagami type whos extremely outwardly abrasive but has such a virtuous yet childlike worldview but hes not really able to be *well written*
At the hands of a better writer I can definitely see a version of Haze that’s legitimately interesting.
He’s an emotionally-stunted, pathologically-aggressive teenage serial killer who thinks he’s Holden Caulfield. That’s dripping with potential social commentary.
I think that people are overcritical with Haze, because everyone does treat Haze as a weirdo, he's not really liked by anyone except Craig. When confronted with people who have no qualms against hurting him, they do in fact try to kill him. The punks who chase him with knives, and Gabriel at the end.
Anonymous Agony grips me in an odd way because it feels both super disconnected with reality yet super down to earth. If someone talked to you like Haze did in real life, you probably would have to just laugh it off or stay quiet like people do in the game. Later in the script a lot of Haze's personality is explored, it's not all good but the writer did have a planned message to tell, it's just that Haze is too much of a filter for people. You probably would just walk away from Haze in real life if you had the choice, just like you would choose not to play the game or read the script when you hear his dialogue.
@@StudioRevoct And your point is…?
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick my point is:
Yeah yeah, yeah
Uh, stop rewinding the flow back
This ain't your modern day new wave or throwback
No jack, it's just a West Coast thing
We shine brighter than the glow stick techno scene
You'd better check your EXO-SKELLO-TEEN
And if it ain't the same as ours, then we'll wreck your team
I betcha, we gonna pressure, we twice as strong
Homie, you ain't winnin' nothin, no, the price is wrong
They sayin Brooklyn keep on makin' it, LA keep on takin' it
Do this for the spray painted bridge with the break you kids
Black tops where we play since '86
Fake chrome spinners in the place of Mercedes rims
Busted our Mercedes Benz
Blew up on the 405, no one's never seen it since
Uh, I don't sweat that though
I think it's best if we just let that go
Here we go
Just step back and relax your mind (yeah my style is so laid back)
Don't stop now, just press rewind (I'll give them something they can playback)
Let music be the one to define (yeah I heard them when they say that)
Nieve, won't you please playback (so I give them something they can playback)
Another moment, another day on these modern times
I wanna show them that when I flow on this it's more than rhymes
It's more than anyone expected
Feel it in my soul, like it's burning in my intestine
Best in class, now they calling me professor
Put me on the pedestal and wait for me to mess up
Little do they know that I'm never gonna crash and burn
Why the ones who know it all, always last to learn
They call me Nieve, cause I always had a dream
That I'll make it to the top from the bottom of the heap
So no matter what they speak or the words they choose to throw against me
Don't test me, don't mess my shoes
They'll play me dirty, I'll never lose sleep or wake up early
Cause you'll never gonna move me from my slot 11:30 on the Late Night
Showing that I'm putting up a great fight
Go ahead, poke and try to make my, take my
Just step back and relax your mind (yeah my style is so laid back)
Don't stop now, just press rewind (I'll give them something they can playback)
Let music be the one to define (yeah I heard them when they say that)
Nieve, won't you please playback (so I give them something they can playback)
5 years old, I was turning melodies into gold, yeah, yeah
Some people said (some people said)
Some people said I don't fit the mold (no I don't fit the mold)
But now my flow is so solid, and it takes away your soul (yeah, yeah)
Leaving you astonished and losing all control (say what, say what)
Nieve (yeah Nieve)
I always had this dream (uh huh), to be the best I can be (yeah, yeah)
Soon they're gonna see (come on, come on)
Quick, give me the mic and let me spit it
If I grab it from you swift, don't worry I'll let you finish
It's been so long, since I heard something that wasn't so raw
So I tell my stories in my own song
Try to get them right from the get go, so they never let go
Though everybody's got an opinion and so it's stressful
They love the stress yo, I keep it high grade
That's why I'm keeping it moving while on the highway
So if you try to pull me over
I'll have to pull a maneuver before I floor it on my rover
Here's a move I never showed ya, switched my style
It's no fair when they're squarer than a kitchen towel
Step past them, I'm living with a passion
Written the lyrics on my napkin
Mixed with the skills that be built from my blood and bones
That you gotta play it back, yo I love this song
Just step back and relax your mind (yeah my style is so laid back)
Don't stop now, just press rewind (I'll give them something they can playback)
Let music be the one to define (yeah I heard them when they say that)
Nieve, won't you please playback (so I give them something they can playback)
Playback Nieve (so won't you playback?)
Oh Nieve, playback Nieve
Playback Nieve (won't you playback Nieve?)
Oh Nieve, playback Nieve (won't you playback Nieve?)
"Isn't it society's fault the way that I am."
oh god no
Absolute cringe statement
Well, we sure do live in a society
I thought the exact same.
Bottom text.
.......
ARMOR CLAD FAAAIIITTTHHHH!!!!
I still can't tell if Mandalore secretly got his friends to read out dialogue over Discord, or if this is the real voice acting for the game. XD
Jess
I'm 100 percent sure Mandy voices the dogs
Nothing hurts my ears more than hearing an adult woman from California voice acting like a young child.
Play the game and fine out, then cringe to death.
I can't hear the dulcet yet butthurt tones of Shammy anywhere in the vid though, and those two practically fucked, you know he'd be in this.
Clara is like 13 but sounds like she's 7. Scarlet is 16 but sounds like she's 40.
They probably didn't have enough voice actors that could do a little girl voice. They already used Clara's voice about three times.
Haze's mom looks 55, sounds 140
And Lilli is 19 but sounds like she's 4. Seriously, it's weird.
they should swap voices
@@jor4114 Shut up, you're lying! :O No way that baby is supposed to be a single day older than maybe 12!
I love how much comedy comes from Craig just being a lovely lame dude who very much wants to adopt Haze, almost treating him like he's an angry wet stray cat in the process (which is accurate). Those subs were the equivalent of Craig going "pspspspspspsps" while shaking a bag of treats at Haze and it working.
Idk if I’m tired but the image of him going “pspspspsp” to Haze while holding subs is just hilarious
"Man, what a weird guy."
"I know right? He's still investigating his wife's murderer."
"I mean, who does that?"
she didan't die just got shot
@@tio_john bruh
@@tio_john it really didnt come off like that. I actually thought the wife that Haze met was his second one.
@@Scatmanseth I agree and disagree I feel like if his wife was harmed in a non lethal manner it would not fuck up Craig and make him obsessive with solving the case that seems like more like the dead wife detective archetype
However I think the Author probably forgot that they gave Craig that story and literally put in that scene with the “second” wife as they needed it to progress the story and add some pressure esp because after that Craig’s whole obsessive/weird tendency is never resolved
@@tio_john Wack
Guy created a game just to relate to it saying "wow, he's literally me" and literally being the guy he's relating to. What a legend
Олды тут?
This guy must be from the MadLad Inc.
he just like me fr
Игра про юность американского Тесака хД
@@rusduderus Про юность Криса Хенсена?
It's things like this that really give me tremendous respect for Voice Actors. The ability to read what's on the page despite God and Sanity telling you to do anything else is a skill that is hard fucking won.
God damn this line swings like an axe
I looked up Haze's voice actor and it is Matt Shipman who has a bunch of big anime dubbing roles. This might have been his first role based on the timeframe.
You can tell Haze's actor is struggling to either not laugh or just get through a few lines.
The "it must have loading screens because all AAA games have loading screens" is what really cemented the "haze is the creator hidden persona" idea. Lol this game was a trip to watch.
I have never physically cringed as hard as I did until the scene between Haze and Scarlet. It's like the writer watched that scene in Taxi Driver uncritically then thought "I would do that too, but cooler."
Waaaaay cooler, with just a hint of smoothie
"I love blaming trafficked children for lacking self-respect!" Haze is insane
@Brupcat I just don’t see a story about a teenage serial killer ever being compelling without the use of superpowers of some sort.
"not all cops" you're right, craig would never do this.
brent hannigan would tho
Halligan would, deny it later and then do it again just because not doing it would slightly inconvenience him
Oh definitely. Halligan needs to be transferred.
@@toolatetothestory Very true.
I mean, we don’t know what Craig is like in his work life.
Hell, the one thing we know about Craig’s job is that he’s obsessively pouring over evidence to try and hunt down the guy who attacked his wife.
Not to mention that he seemingly has a fixation on Haze after his wife got injured, his son moved away, and he was present at Haze’s house when Clara got taken away.
Maybe it would have been revealed in a sequel that Craig was aware the entire time of Haze’s killing spree, but turned a blind eye because he was able to live vicariously through him.
Haze is both a surrogate son Craig can help raise, and somebody who’s able to follow through on his revenge in a way that Craig cannot.
*throws salt at Hazes house*
I'm convinced this game was made by a sentient Monster Energy 6-pack.
The best comment ever made
damn dude. it's been a while since a youtube comment sent me like this
I literally started crying from laughter, thank you.
LMFAOOOOOOO
_I realize this comment is late AF_
And it was named "Kyle".
No offense to anyone named Kyle though, just a very dude bro name. 😂
It's been said before but I need to emphasize the same point. Haze's voice actor carries this video game so much. He was given a steaming pile of shit to work with but his delivery is done with so much earnestness and sincerity that you'd think he genuinely thinks he's Haze. I hope that guy is getting more gigs because he did a fantastic job here.
im pretty certain the VA is matt shipman, who has done a lot of english dub voicework!! this game isn't on his wiki (shocker) but im pretty sure its him- its on his imdb page
Haze's VA really made me *feel* like I was listening to an edgy asshole teenager it was great
I'm definitely playing this game just for the voice acting 😂
I love Craig.
he deserves better, let Craig live a happy life.
He did get his smoothie time and a blender as a gift.
@@peterthepeter7523 good ending
Himbo energy
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I disagree
He's the nicest and most likable character... so he'll prolly be turn out to be the head of the conspiracy or something.
The writer of this thing is the person who insisted on loading screens because "all the big games have loading screens" so he'll prolly need a good twist to "elevate the plot" because all the good games have big, unexpected twists.
I'm half-joking, of course.
Man the creator of this game has some serious trauma but boy if it isn't funny when presented as a RPG maker game.
It’s society’s fault edit we got the halo amount of upvotes edit 2 I get 289 upvotes but only 27 subs
well, we do live in a society
@@keakuma made up of individuals and nuclear families.
@@icenine135 Found thatcher
fancy seeing you here
i havent seen you like in a year
New theory, haze's parents have a weed distribution empire and named their son haze to taunt police
That explains why his dad looks like the Kingpin
@@MrClean-nu2sw Mans is about to kill the south african president
They have a daughter they could've named Mary-Jane too. Massive missed opportunity on their part
Would explain why they're so rich
This is absolutely genius
Haze is literally what happens if you just let the impulsive thoughts win every time.
Haze is also what happens when you're completely immune to cringe.
Nah it's just an edgy cringe
Sounds like Blarg
So basically The Dark Urge?
>Edgy protagonist
>bugged game
>RPG Maker
>A lot of cursing
>Haze hates everyone
>Serious situation fucked up by RPG Maker
> *ＳＯＣＩＥＴＹ*
Dude i heard Yiik is in discount right now, i heard is pretty good
YIIK x Mandalore would be amazing
This one was at least so bad it's good. Yiik is just bad and boring.
This shit was better than Yuck, i mean Yiik
at least it isn't mechanically tedious on a moment to moment like YIIK. Spending double digit seconds to do single digit damage QTE on every bloody attack is a nightmare.
I fucking knew this game reminded me of YiiK (though being forty minutes in I think even *this game* isn't quite up to YiiK's level of just... existence).
i like how in haze's town, literally everyone except craig is unhinged and clinically insane
That's an insult to Clara. She's fine...until the thing happens, anyways...
Sh*t, you're right.
I'm choosing to believe that their town is a fenced-off containment zone where everyone dumps the edgelords.
@@errortryagainlater4240 No real law enforcement, self-proclaimed bounty hunters running around, therapist having no idea about his job.
And then you have Craig, who is not only the single competent person, he is too nice to live in such environment. This makes him look not like a cop but undercover warden gathering intel on all the madness that happens there. Why the hell "edge-zone" explains whole game so well
@@errortryagainlater4240 urban cosmic horror. The twist is that haze is an Eldritch edgelord.
Smoothie time.
Mandy getting frustrated that Haze's dad isn't just beating the fuck out of him for the stuff he says really highlights his southern heritage.
I get his frustration tbh.
you'd expect 47 to be a bit of a hands on father even in his retirement
A common thing around here is some parents make their kids "pick the switch" (branch off a tree) in the yard for them to get punished with. Seeing Kingpin not even lift a finger just doesn't compute with what Haze says to him.
@@MandaloreGaming I have picked my own switch. I can confirm this is true or at least was, who knows now. Oh and the comment about the belt, yep I've heard the noise of a belt passing through belt loops so fast it should of broke the sound barrier lol
@@MandaloreGaming Am from Louisiana, can confirm that as a child I had to pick my own switch on more than one occasion.
That's honestly fucked up. In what world is this considered okay to do to your kid?
Anonymous Agony has the same edgy, amateurish, preteen power fantasy vibe the original Jeff the Killer creepypasta did.
YES! Exactly! I knew it was reminding me of something.
Literally the best comment LOL.
His full name is Haze Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way.
@@Niobesnuppa STOP FLAMING OK
Had this been made today, Haze would 100% unironically refer to himself as a sigma male
Murdering pedophile grindset
Haze would make fun of sigma males but still call himself a Chad or something like that
@@themyofmy i mean
who doesn't?
@@tdab3883 good point imo
@@tdab3883 fair
This is the first game of Mandy's I've actually considered skipping through the cringe was so strong. By far the scariest thing this Halloween season, bravo.
I know. I can't get past the first 5 minutes without succumbing to cringe overdose. It's not Mandalore's fault and I would love to watch the whole thing like I do Limbo and the Droods, but the cringe is so toxic, it's radioactive at this point.
Oh how bad could this be... "Haze isn't a screen name it's somebody's real name." 2000's Death Note fanfic flashbacks intensifies!
@@georgevatkov3213 Droods was fun, I wonder when he'll review Moment of Silence. I can't wait for the "Overclocked History of Violence" streams to start
@@cyberninjazero5659 i think moment of silence is just too barren to even talk about, it's just a big pile of nothing. a particle of dust floating through space with no destination nor purpose. a gust of wind ruffling some leaves on a tree among countless others in a forest.
Had the same problem with Civvie's Super Seducer episode. Still haven't finished that one.
The cameo by JCS was completely unexpected, and I love that it wasn't just a bit of audio from another video but was made specifically for this
Right I loved it I had to clap
The fact that more people aren't commenting on this is moderately disappointing, tbh. One *hell* of a crossover.
Sorry that I'm stupid but who's JCS?
@@user-jl7cz2pe6d Search them on youtube! They make great videos on criminals, mostly about police investigations.
@@user-jl7cz2pe6d They're a criminal psychology channel. Extremely good.
God that scene with Haze and the Sex Worker was unbearable to sit through.
That's this entire fucking game. There is no non-unbearable moments.
The fucking 140p qualilty mic of the sex worker doesn't help either
I have to watch this entire review in short bursts. I can't take too much of it without pausing.
This is was happens when someone watches Pretty Woman and mixes it with their shadow the hedgehogness
I always say "Holy Shit" out loud at that self respect line every time I watch this video
Every night I weep before I sleep, knowing I could never, in a million years, be as much of a gamer as Haze
The sword lady is Gabriel's sister who he thinks is in Canada.
"my pronouns are 'he' not 'him'... 'cause i could never be him" i lament as i gaze at a framed portrait of haze
The worst part about Haze as a character is that he’s not even the worst one.
@Vercusgames from what a few other comments said (nothing I confirmed), might as well be?
@Vercusgames oh he definitely is
@@scruffles3838 wanna bet he's just a really, really spoiled Onision?
That "Smoothie time" almost killed me. Craig is the real MVP of this game. He needs his own spin-off.
I think my next door neighbors must've heard me laughing, and the walls are pretty damn thick here.
Smoothie time brought me to tears
I came to the comment section just for that. It was tooo perfect
He really is awesome, though does anyone else get some "Ryotaro Dojima" from Persona 5 vibes from the guy? Dojima prolly wouldn't take the amount of shit Craig does from Haze but I can't help but see some parallels there. And not just the "haunted cop" archetype they share but also in the whole "actually nice guy who doesn't know how to properly relate to the teenager he's in charge of" part.
Best character in the game hands down, though.
Craig is best girl. I thought it was funny that his wife was shot in some case that haunts him but now he and his (new? same?) wife live together and appear to have an adult child and the case is presumably not mentioned again.
I'm convinced his name is actually Hayes, and he just spells it as Haze to be edgy.
Actually, according to the 429-page manuscript of the game (yes, really) it was because he was raised as a girl for the first 9 years of his life & named "Hazel".
I am not kidding.
@@Hawkatana W-What? Why? Huh????
@@HawkatanaELABORATE THIS CAUSE WTF
@@electricfeverx976 That's all it says. Haze just says that offhandedly and it's never brought up again.
@@Hawkatana uhhh wtf? john money moment?
I like that for Halloween, Mandalore doesn’t cover scary games, but instead games that make the player question their own sanity/life decisions
Underated genre. What would you call that existential despair? XD
Mandy going straight for the lovecraftian.
Nothing is scarier than existential dread
Oh this game is scary all right, just not for the usual reasons.
Psychological horror is still horror
what confuses me to this day is why the police officer starts off being the 'hunt down my wife's hooter' obsessive type but then we see him being pretty wholesome with a very much unshot wife. It CONFOUNDS me
Why do you think shes unshot? She did get shot, just didnt die. :D
The hooter typo here is phenomenal, please never fix it
@@ibragimowbekhan0987 it genuinely never occurred to me that his shot wife and his current wife might be the same person.
I guess because if your wife was shot (seemingly randomly) and you obsessed over the case, it kinda implies she died and wasn't just a victim of random violence.
Although it does explain why Craig's coworkers think he's weird for not dropping the case.
@@weneedaladder8384 I figured he'd just re-married, but still hadn't entirely moved on from his first wife.
@@Audioworm may be
But, guys...
We will never know cz author never does interviews 😔
When the video literally opens on “we live in a society” you know this is gunna be amazing.
Yet we live in one
Never did understand blaming society for you stupid decisions
@@marcoe.3314 It's not hard to understand
@@marcoe.3314 It's a specific form of butterfly effect, where certain scenarios, beliefs or whatever you currently wish to complain about is the consequence of all the cogs of society going in a particular direction. I know Americans change aggregation state when that name falls, but Karl Marx for instance argued that the basic assumption of people being greedy is only the consequence of living a society that encourages that kind of behavior.
If you want to argue, argue about "blaming society for your stupid decisions".
I don't care about communism/I hate communism/I love communism are all the plausible opinions, pick the one you agree with and leave me alone.
@@mortiparabeyda4130 Lack of personal responsibility
The saddest part is I'm kinda hooked on the trainwreck and want to see more
The near done script is linked in a steam update via google doc.
deadass me too, this is so bad its good and i really wanna see the ending
This is the kind of project that requires a literal goddamn miracle to exist at all.
I want a sequel.
@@CodedEmotionWhere is it at? I can't find it anywhere.
@@Vamoss39 it is also pinned in the fan server in the "Development Room" thread. The link to the fan server should be in a steam update I think also linked on the steam. Please let me know if the invite link is dead.
The biohazard neck chain Haze wears has really strong Sonichu medallion energy.
Which side are you on??
Sonichu medallion vs biohazard neck chain
Haze-chan sonichu.
Would you rather:
Biohazard neck chain son,
Or
Sonichu medallion daughter
@@sealogic4552"daughter"
@@deltap6967 I get what you are trying to do, but I was just referencing a meme. Please try and be normal when interacting with strangers.
> Edge: "People are self-serving, nobody does anything nice for each other!"
> Edge, literally immediately after: "I'm sorry I broke your vase, let me give you some kind platitudes to show that I totally do care and feel honest regret for my failings."
I can only hope the writer was being insightful and trying to reveal that Haze talks a big game, but lacks insight in regards to his own behavior. But that might be expecting too much.
Does that not server haze in some vague hard to explain way, he is being nice for his own personal goal of fucking craigs wife.
With how it's voiced I especially think the contrast and hypocracy is intentional.
We usually call the sudden transition juxtaposition bipolar, or a lapse of sanity, or both. Perhaps keeping and eating the whole cake at the same time. I'd say we are all self-serving, and do everything for selfish reasons - the issue is everyone saying being generally selfish is wrong. I feel good about myself when I donate money to kids for their lunches, or for their Christmas presents. I do it, because the idea of giving to the needy and those unable to provide for themselves, makes me happy, makes me feel good.
Even sacrificing your life for another is selfish, whether its because you love them, or someone you care about loves them, either way we'd do it because of how we feel personally regardless of the reason, especially since if its a family member, you aren't thinking of how unhappy you'll make them seeing you die in front of them, and how guilty they'd likely feel for their entire life - I'd say suicide is the most selfish act of all, yet I can understand if someone, say, suffers from the real illness of sudden explainable, excruciating pain that suddenly started and never will go away.
I think kids and teens have a hard time understanding what being selfish full entails due to what we are told and what we tell morality is, how its a very natural and sane way we all are. How can you show another real love, if you don't love yourself? Think someone who loves you can stand seeing you not love yourself for long?
How can you help someone drowning or starving if you cannot swim and are drowning or starving, too. So its important to try and take care of yourself first, otherwise how will you help anyone to being with? A mother needs to first feed herself to produce milk for her baby. Putting self first isn't wrong nor evil. Not all selfish acts are somehow impossible to also be what we'd call giving, or selfless.
And giving for your own personal hate, or greed, or lust is nonetheless giving. I'd not care if my top notch surgeon loves his job because the sight of guts, blood, bone, sinew and how it feels when he cuts it is why he loves and does his job - I care he does a good job. At the same time, I've seen people do what we'd call altruistic because they are guilty of a crime and want to feel better they committed a crime. Motive really makes a massive difference if you truly want to judge someones actions for yourself. Some terrible people do terrible things, but they feel they serve the greater good, the world is mess, its grey not black and white, and its not orderly, its not a yes-or-no universe, neither is humanity.
Its why some say to clean the inside of a cup before cleaning the outside - what is inside us, our motives and reason, matter more in a sense than what we actually do if you want to judge morally. Its more important that what you put pour out and consume into yourself is clean, more than how you appear outwardly. Looking clean and being clean are two different, yet somewhat relatable things.
A teen blowing the head off someone being legal or illegal can come down to if you are in the military or not, not about the morality of firearms or even age. It comes down to intent. Killing another race of human can be racist, or it could be heroic depending on the situation. It could even be the same person, and you killed them for the same hateful and petty reason, but in one situation its going to be justified by anyone who thinks it was done purely in service to ones country, out of a sense of duty, honor, and desire to protect your family, and do the dirty and dangerous work for the fellow countryman and woman who may well be oblivious they are, in part, why you are able to be a soldier. Even if they never asked you to be.
That's just the writer's own behavior.
He is a manipulative self-serving schizo who will abuse you, then blame some mental issue/trauma for his outburst and beg your forgiveness, only to repeat the pattern until you had enough of his bullshit.
Look for the stories people who worked with him have about him, is no exaggeration, he is "literally Haze".
If the dialogue is written genuine and not with that intent in mind, it might give some meta-insight in form of a peek in the mind of the Lead Developer, aka "Literally Haze". Either way your theory checks out, I'd say.
25:35 I am so glad this man is a voice for hire because when I realized that you'd got him for this line I wept
Didn't expect to find you here
Who is it?
Isnt that JCS?!
I bet Ken found Mandy through shammy lol
Oh my god thats fucking Kizume from JCS lmfao that got me in tears
Hazes dad isn't agent 47, he went all the way up to being agent 141 after eating his two team members.
I’m positively horrified by the notion of workplace promotions occurring as a result of cannibalism.
I am positively delighted by the notion of workplace promotions occuring as a result of cannibalism.
^ The duality of men
I'm positively aroused by the notion of workplace
promotions occurring as a result of cannibalism
I'm delightedly horrified by the notion of workplace promotions occurring as a result of vore.
Craig saying "smoothie time" was the sole and greatest respite from utter edge
It even has its own time stamp. Yes, I know this is an old comment but I watch all Mandalore’s videos at least a 3/4 times. Except Droods. I can’t stop watching that one. Must have been 12 times already.
as an absolute sigma male edgelord because im so cool and awesome, i can confirm, when its smoothie time, im not sad or edgy
@@cephaleaorion4888 Yep. Smoothie time.
The JCS caught me off guard, and is still so fitting for this game.
That bit sent me
I had to give it a like when jcs came up
It honestly elevated the video from just some cheeky game review to a whole meta context event, I love it
what's JCS ?
@@JoaoPaulo-zd2qj channel that essentially walks you through interrogation footage
i don't know what is more scary, the fact that the creator of this is "literally haze", or that this game makes you sympathize with him
anyways haze is literally me
Lmfao
@@forecastumbrella1626 HE'S
JUST
LIKE
ME
@@SeruraRenge11 FR
I'm slowly putting together a list of timestamps with all of Craig's appearances (a Craigslist, if you will) because he is the best part of this game
5:38
11:07
12:28
20:39
26:05
30:05
47:53
53:40
1:00:55 (smoothie time)
1:16:39
Honestly the voice acting in this game is like way too good for the plot. The person who voices Haze does an amazing job characterizing him, in spite of having to read Hazes lines to do so
I wonder how it would sound if they had better mics and stuff.
Haze’s VA sounds so damn familiar, where do I know him from???
@@drstrangelove307 He's a professional voice actor primarily in anime dubbing
@@HoratioAccel how tf did the dev afford him
@@ketrub Probably this was made before he become famous?
the fact that you got JCS - Criminal Psychology to give more info on the behavior and psyche of haze was a epic gamer moment.
Seriously underrated
Fr that was the best part of the video. At first I thought he was using AI, but no he got the actual guy on board to record it. That was hilarious.
My favorite part is how he makes fun of his sister for how she curses, yet he curses like a 10 year old who just watched an R rated movie for the first time
it runs in the family I guess
I love this so much. Its 'My Immortal' for boys. Its a part of me when I was 13.
Most psychiatrists and therapists have a specific status that literally require them to alert the police if a patient even alludes to elderly, disabled, or child abuse. So ya, Edwin is the worst psychiatrist in all fiction and would be arrested for malpractice in real life.
I think anything that indicates an actual threat to real people is supposed to trigger an alert. Like you’ll probably get chucked in a padded cell. In theory at least.
That’s what you get when your shrink is Dan McNeely
Pretty sure most psychiatrists would call the police if their patient threw them through a window too.
@@braedenmclean5304 I'm glad someone else recognized Dan's voice. But calling him by the name Edwyn here works even better because that's his real name.
@@abrahamjohnathan8389 not really. you'd have to obey both secular laws regarding your therapist profession and religious laws as a catholic priest. also you'd probably have to ask the patient whether you are there for a therapy session or confession, but i'm not really sure since i've never met a catholic priest-therapist. would be an interesting combo though.
The writers were trying to make a vulgar, yankii-type character, and instead of Jotaro they made Elliot Roger.
Maybe they were trying to make Elliot Roger
Maybe Elliot Roger made himself into Haze.
@@xmlthegreat That dude that shot up his grocery store to become a ghost girl clearly did it all wrong.
The jojo version of elliot Rodger lmao
@@JanitorScruffy You're talking about Randy Stair right?
So does Haze never suffer any consequences for throwing his psychiatrist through a window and refusing to go through court-mandated therapy?
No.
Nah man, he was just TOO COOL you wouldn't understand
Consequences are for squares who can't understand the darkness in Haze's blackened soul. He's just too edgy, no one can touch him.
@@WobblesandBean Actually, I thought of a theory while thinking about this game at work. For about 90% of this game, none of what happens is real: instead, it's just a fantasy dreamt up in Haze's head in order to cope with what happened to his sister. Haze tossing the psychiatrist through the window? Didn't happen; was just a fantasy. Haze luring predators to his home and feeding them to junkyard dogs? Didn't happen; was just a fantasy. Haze teaming up with a sword wielding bounty hunter to defeat a guy selling women? Didn't happen; was just a fantasy.
The ONLY "real" parts of this game are the beginning and the end. That would explain why Haze can't bring himself to actually shoot the man who harmed his sister: *he had never shot anyone before in his entire life. That's why he had the "fatal hesitation" moment when it came time to pull the trigger: he couldn't actually work up the nerve to go through with it.*
@@SergeantExtreme But Gabriel wasn't the guy who hurt his sister that was the Jokester in the beginning and he was the first to die
The comment about David Cage made me realize that the only substantive difference between this game and a quantic dream title is budget
And the lack of self insert protagonist
I'd argue this is much more enjoyable than a David Cage game.
…holy shit this game is like, peak edgy Western anime fandom of the early 00’s. I’m half expecting Haze to rant about how Sasuke Uchiha is the greatest character ever and that Naruto should have been completely about him.
He even has a Light Yagami monologue at the beginning of the game.
It came out in 2014!
@@andrewmcclean823 thats still around the eight time-frame. I remember a bunch of edgy stuff like that from that part of my life, tho it was petering out. Its also worth noting some sources say it was initially released in 2012
The therapist scene makes it... disturbingly clear that whoever made this has never seen a therapist.
If they wanted realism, they should have had a radio playing ocean wave noises in the corner, a receptionist that was just a little too friendly, and the thermostat set a little high.
Also your hour of therapy started when you got here ten minutes early to wait outside and is ending ten minutes early because got more important things to do.
The guy who made this very obviously thinks therapy is a waste of time, and it shows.
XD why is this so true?
How did you know the thermostat is always high in the therapists office 🤣
@@WobblesandBean it usually is
Not trying to be edgy either. It’s not like I’m happy that it is lol
“Haze feels less like character development and more like unearthing a cursed mummy” LOL
Haze being asexual and aromantic was not on my bingo card for this game
I'm surprised that it was explicitly stated, but it doesn't surprise me that he is given that he's clearly inspired by Light Yagami. Light never showed any genuine interest in people romantically or sexually.
According to the script, he was also raised as a girl for nine years. So...probably an aroace trans dude. Not the most wholesome representation, but hey. It...exists.
He's an unimaginable combination of insane shit. He's not racist. He's ANTI racist. He's committed multiple murders. He's good with kids. He curses out everyone he meets. He kills pedophiles. He helps child prostitutes escape slavery for no reason. He's somehow still so hard to not hate. .........He's asexual?
.......Haze is short for 'Hazel' bc he was treated as female for the first 9 years of his life, which would probably make him trans in any scenario except for the fucking one that birthed this character?
@@timothymclean no matter what anyone says, haze in my heart is an aroace trans man. nobody can change my mind about this, partly because i like the rep (even if he is also a hugely edgy weirdo) and mostly because i think it's the funniest thing on the planet if he is any of those things and it's just not elaborated on in THIS game, of all games
@@brynnsievert6371so he's emo transmasc aroace light yagami
"If this exact scene came out in a david cage game people would probably make arguments about it being art" is the best scathing review of every david cage game
For me, David Cage games are obviously fucking awful (other than Heavy Rain which I consider legitimately good) but they are at least entertaining while you're along for the ride. This game however is fucking agonising.
I clapped
@@memeomeme8351 Indigo Prophecy is so-bad-its-good in video game format though I'd say.
Still, better off watching someone else play it.
@@memeomeme8351 I think Heavy Rain has some unforgivable shenanigans like the whole antique shop sequence which straight up has to lie to the player to not ruin the entire story. And then there's the scene in the junkyard which just seems comically racist at best. But it's Quantic Dream's best work... which is unfortunate.
I think Until Dawn pretty much accomplished the same style of game but much better.
@@FaceJP24 I never finished it as it's my friend's game but Detroit: Become Human was pretty good from the parts I played.
I love that the therapist's VA seemed like he was constantly teetering on the edge of doing a Dr. Loomis impersonation. All of the voice actors seriously contributed so much to the overal entertainment value of the game, it's reminiscent of doing dramatic readings of shitty fanfiction with your friends
That guy always sounds like that in everything I've ever heard him in.
Is that Edwyn Tiong from those Newgrounds games?
Ngl I thought that was Basedshaman 😅
@@ohnowendigos8804yes, it is
THE DEVIL'S EYES!
I lost it completely when the game deadass went "she pulls a sword on haze" with rules of nature in the background
I'm pretty sure Mandalore added the Rules of Nature but yeah
@@hj-hv6rt i know he did
I actually did a search, and apparently Eris Helbrandt is the OC of her voice actress and actually a _knight_ in some other game(?!)
Anonymous Agony deadass crossed over with a medieval fantasy, of all things. Because the voice cast needed wish fulfillment too.
Timestamp please, for the love of god
@@arzr_er 41:38.
Everything in this game is so much, but... Craig just hits my dopamine centers just right. He is kind of adorable, tries so hard, and is an almost aggressively soft man.
I nearly lost it when he came to borrow the blender. He's just such a golden retriever that even Haze ends up stumbling.
Craig is the secret star of this game.
Smoothie time.
Haze is the protagonist but Craig is the hero
This is a fucking Onision book but as a game, holy shit.
Oh my god THAT'S why it felt all so familiar. Oh god.
That's what I was JUST telling my wife
Seeing this comment is preemptively making me reconsider getting off this ride.
Ok good news Onision finally realised he can't write a good book, bad news hes doing games now...
God help us all
Thank you for putting this into words
Damn, my boy Craig deserves so much better. In the wise words of my man "smoothie time"
Smoothie time : )
"That's what a teenager would fantasize about saying"
Yeah, I think my soul took that as a coping mechanism and applied that to the rest of the game, just one long drawn out fantasy
probably something he dreamed up one night and continued writing out during class with that weird S in the margins
the shit with scarlet is so fedora tippy i'm waiting for him to call her kitten or some shit. it's so fucking painful
I want to meet whoever made this, and ask him wtf was he like when he was a teenager
Honestly, Haze getting fucked up at the end could have been a fitting ending. Like, he gets so lost in his own delusions that he thinks taking down a hardened criminal will be like his sneak attacks against the others and instead he loses big time. Thing is, that would have required the game acknowledging that Haze is just a troubled kid and not an actual badass so I'm guessing the next part would have just treated the ending as his Zenkai boost.