I think for Position 2 its also important to know what happens if black goes for the c3 pawn and tries to promote his c-pawn, because white wins just with one tempo in this line. Ke8 Kf5, Kd7 Ke4, Kc6 Kd3, d5 Kxc3, d6 Kb3, d7 c3, d8=Q c2
You did fine with the triangulation description imo. It’s a tough concept, I’ve learned it a few times and I can’t really describe it lol. Good stuff 👍
3 out of 3 this time! (Even though for some reason I accidentally wrote Ka2 when I actually meant Ka3 in my answer for the first position … 😅) By the way I always find it kind of funny/strange when Americans try to say Zugzwang with their soft English Zs. In German both Z are pronounced harder, more like “TS” as in tsunami. Actually almost exactly like that. You could also make a small pause between Zug and Zwang if it helps since it is a word composition after all. [Not intended as criticism, just trying to help. 😊]
For the last position, about triangulation, I guess I can add that white need to get to b6 to win, and to do that it needs to get to b5 and black is in zugswang. But white has 3 squares to access b5, while black only has one square to guard b5. Hence, white can waste a move while maintaining pressure on b5, but black must give up control of b5 after one move. All this while meeting the tactical need of preventing black from playing b6.
Awesome! 3 out of 3 and i did find the concepts like triangulation. Also i did climb in chess com puzzles to 1500 rating while im just at 1300 in rated games. I can find many moves now, but since these are puzzles i can take my time and i also know that there is something im looking for. Thats the difference between games and puzzles i guess. Thats also why i find it way harder to find solutions to puzzles that turn out to win you "just" a pawn after several moves. Id never watch out for those and if i see them id need to make sure theres no better outcome possible. Anyways, keep it up! These puzzles are fun :D
I had some fun running through these ones, especially that 3rd one! I wish there was a set of group of 2000+ where you share some of our analysis and thoughts
While there is analysis and calculation that goes into it, you must also know pawn endgame concepts and general endgame concepts (opposition, mined squares, triangulation etc.)
@@MoreClipsForYou838 well no shit, but as someone rated above 2200 being paired with players 600 rating points lower than me I think it'd be nice to hear some of the people who are rated higher than me on their trains of thought
In position 3 after kb5 i tried sacrifice the pon in the line kb5 kc7 c6 ×c6 kc5 kd7 kb6 but then blak can sacrifice bake c5 if k×c5 it is a drow and if pon take c5 you have a pass pon but it steel a drow and then i saw that after c6 ther is b5 and blak wins very nice position
In the last puzzle, what if you play c6+ bxc6, Kb5 Kc7, Ka6 (no pawn blocking now) Kd7, Kb6 Ke7, Kxc6 ... Edit: Just saw that King can take, so what about Kb5 Kc7, c6 bxc6 (can't take with king), Ka6 Kd7, ... Edit 2: Okay, the pawn can just be pushed forward. Kb5 doesn't work.
Hey Zion I'm not sure if I have the form set up to email the answers - I think right now you'd need to write down the answers but I'll see if I can change it send out responses.
@@quelqunx7470 hard line to see... after c6 b6 ...Ka4 Kxc6 again we give up the pawn. Kb4 b5. Ka5 and black can't protect their pawn. The key is black can't get past c5 but we can. I'm testing this against Chessmaster PSP (not Stockfish, to be fair) but it's still pretty solid by my standards lol.
In the postion 3, is it possible that Kb5, then c6 results in a win too? It's a worse choice for sure, but given the position I think it results a really long win too
I was stuck on this for a bit too, but black has a tough response! So Kb5 Kc7 c6 and then b6!! Now you have to leave your pawn undefended and black takes it next move and is almost certainly winning.
@@MHoefkes I solved the last two positions, Ka3 was not the move I chose in the first position. The last position if I remember correctly, the correct move is Kb4. Essentially the last position included a concept called triangulation.
I really love these quizzes. So much to learn, and you do such a great of explaining each position.
Glad you like them!
I think for Position 2 its also important to know what happens if black goes for the c3 pawn and tries to promote his c-pawn, because white wins just with one tempo in this line.
Ke8 Kf5, Kd7 Ke4, Kc6 Kd3, d5 Kxc3, d6 Kb3, d7 c3, d8=Q c2
Love these quizzes, I learn so much in the process thank you!
You got it!
@@ChessVibesOfficial 🙏🏽😊✌🏽💜
You did fine with the triangulation description imo. It’s a tough concept, I’ve learned it a few times and I can’t really describe it lol.
Good stuff 👍
Thanks, Adam!
the *keyword* is zugzwang. if you understand that, then it should make sense
Oh, cool video, I also shoot about chess, but I don’t get it as cool as you do, but looking at your videos, I get inspired and don’t give up.
Drop this thing, complete nonsense!
Wow, how do you create these unusual shapes???
I love the puzzles they're so mysterious and full of curiosity to me
Man these quizzes are really fun
These quizzes are awesome. Keep making these
Great video as expected and nice quiz! The explanation was good as always!
Thanks, Kamna!
3 out of 3 this time! (Even though for some reason I accidentally wrote Ka2 when I actually meant Ka3 in my answer for the first position … 😅)
By the way I always find it kind of funny/strange when Americans try to say Zugzwang with their soft English Zs. In German both Z are pronounced harder, more like “TS” as in tsunami. Actually almost exactly like that. You could also make a small pause between Zug and Zwang if it helps since it is a word composition after all.
[Not intended as criticism, just trying to help. 😊]
Got 1 and 3
I’m really glad the top 3 moves in position 2 were the only 3 moves
Puzzle 3 is worth knowing, and it's obvious after thinking about it
The last one was really tricky for me
For the last position, about triangulation, I guess I can add that white need to get to b6 to win, and to do that it needs to get to b5 and black is in zugswang. But white has 3 squares to access b5, while black only has one square to guard b5. Hence, white can waste a move while maintaining pressure on b5, but black must give up control of b5 after one move.
All this while meeting the tactical need of preventing black from playing b6.
Awesome! 3 out of 3 and i did find the concepts like triangulation. Also i did climb in chess com puzzles to 1500 rating while im just at 1300 in rated games. I can find many moves now, but since these are puzzles i can take my time and i also know that there is something im looking for. Thats the difference between games and puzzles i guess. Thats also why i find it way harder to find solutions to puzzles that turn out to win you "just" a pawn after several moves. Id never watch out for those and if i see them id need to make sure theres no better outcome possible.
Anyways, keep it up! These puzzles are fun :D
I had some fun running through these ones, especially that 3rd one! I wish there was a set of group of 2000+ where you share some of our analysis and thoughts
While there is analysis and calculation that goes into it, you must also know pawn endgame concepts and general endgame concepts (opposition, mined squares, triangulation etc.)
@@MoreClipsForYou838 well no shit, but as someone rated above 2200 being paired with players 600 rating points lower than me I think it'd be nice to hear some of the people who are rated higher than me on their trains of thought
Last 1 was crazy good thing to know
I got the idea though I'm around 900, I remember the crooked king idea you mentioned for two of the puzzles. That's where I got the ideas.
In position 3 after kb5 i tried sacrifice the pon in the line kb5 kc7 c6 ×c6 kc5 kd7 kb6 but then blak can sacrifice bake c5 if k×c5 it is a drow and if pon take c5 you have a pass pon but it steel a drow and then i saw that after c6 ther is b5 and blak wins very nice position
I'm particularly weak on these type of Endgames, so thank you. 👍👌👏
In the last puzzle, what if you play c6+ bxc6, Kb5 Kc7, Ka6 (no pawn blocking now) Kd7, Kb6 Ke7, Kxc6 ...
Edit: Just saw that King can take, so what about Kb5 Kc7, c6 bxc6 (can't take with king), Ka6 Kd7, ...
Edit 2: Okay, the pawn can just be pushed forward. Kb5 doesn't work.
Thanks!
where can I see my answers on the quizes?
Hey Zion I'm not sure if I have the form set up to email the answers - I think right now you'd need to write down the answers but I'll see if I can change it send out responses.
@@ChessVibesOfficial tx
So in the third position, b5 and c7 are corresponding squares.
quiz #3. Kb5 works! Kc7. c6 bxc6 (looks bad, but isn't) Kc5 Kd7. Kb6 Ke8. Kxc6 Ke7. Kc7 Ke8. Kd6 Kf7. Kd7 easy to win from here.
Nah, after c6 I just go b6
@@quelqunx7470 hard line to see... after c6 b6 ...Ka4 Kxc6 again we give up the pawn. Kb4 b5. Ka5 and black can't protect their pawn. The key is black can't get past c5 but we can. I'm testing this against Chessmaster PSP (not Stockfish, to be fair) but it's still pretty solid by my standards lol.
3/3 on this one! Looking forward to doing the new one!
Nice, Mark!
In the postion 3, is it possible that Kb5, then c6 results in a win too? It's a worse choice for sure, but given the position I think it results a really long win too
I was stuck on this for a bit too, but black has a tough response! So Kb5 Kc7 c6 and then b6!! Now you have to leave your pawn undefended and black takes it next move and is almost certainly winning.
King from F8 to E8
Good vid Teacher. Thank you ❤♟
where can I see my answers?
hey uh what happen after kb4, black king go c8 instead?
2/3 for me, that first one got me because of one small nuance that I missed.
I got the third one just cause Kb5 looked suspect. But in a real game, that's probably what I'd play.
@@MHoefkes I solved the last two positions, Ka3 was not the move I chose in the first position. The last position if I remember correctly, the correct move is Kb4. Essentially the last position included a concept called triangulation.
@@MHoefkes I saw that kb5 wasn’t good right away
Same for me.
U da best learning channel
Managed to find a way to lose the last position as white. Fun puzzles though :D
please does anyone know a chess website where I can create my own theoretical chess position and play it from there?
lichess.org/editor
@@ChessVibesOfficial thank you
how do i check my answers I forgot what I chose
I didn't make it for this quiz but enjoyed it by the video very much nonetheless! Thank you!
The only one I got right is second one and still by pure chance and without reaching critical position... sad :(
position 3: seems like after Kb5 push the c pawn and still win?
Kb5 kc7 c6 b6
@@roishilo3682 oops. Thanks.
2 for 3 this time.... got #3 wrong but understand why now
Are players suggesting illegal moves for position 2 or something?
Hahaha the numbers don't add up to 100% but there are only 3 legal moves.
The term Teacher Nelson when opposing Kings control the advancement square is termed "opposition " 😃 There now I taught you something Teacher 🤣
I did this quiz!
I played Kb4 and calculated the zugzwang! nice quiz thanks nelson!
Pawn b2, to b3.
How did I miss that.
Course you have to move the King
I practice endgames every day and still messed up two positions. Maybe chess is not for me in the end.
You really should use more groups, 1000-1600 is just way too wide
Ya... 1000 and 1200 are basically light years apart, and 1200 is basically easy prey to the 1400, and 1600 sees the 1400 as noobs
Nf7 left the chat In the thumbnail 😂
2 position 1601+ percentages does not add up to 100 but there is only 3 legal moves??!?!!?!?
Only top 3 responses are counted, and sometimes people format differently. For example, Bg5 vs bg5 or something like that.
King A4 to B4????????
6:02 en passant?
9:02 EN PASSANT
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what if, after kb5 black plays kc7 instead of kc6? (Position 3⁰)
Last time you ❤️ my commend will you do it now?
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Not a fan of the thumbnail
Found the person who play the pawn move in the thumbnail
@@lammatt 🤣
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