I went with the BMW and very happy with my choice. I think its more comfortable to ride, better to look at. I purchased the 22 fully loaded all optioned XR.
I recently rode both bikes and ended up purchasing the Tiger 900 GT. I commute 100 miles every day, and the tiger 900 GT suspension feels like a Cadillac when set up properly.
Sweet. But what about mentioned vibrations in 4K+ rpm range? I currently ride mt07 - and the only reason I want to change this cheap-o bike is the vibrations...
I've a Triumph Street Triple, fabulous bike and Triumph are my favorite top quality brand, I had to put a Puig screen on the front mind. I was looking at a new Street Triple but I want something with better wind protection for touring and short weekend adventures, Triumph seem hooked on naked bikes at the moment, why their marketing people have decided against making a faired street triple similar to the F900XR or Ducati Supersport is beyond me. So for me after much consideration it's either a F900XR or Tiger900G, they both have low seat options too and I like getting both feet down. I must say at the moment I am leaning towards the BMW, it looks good and every review raves about it, the only downer is the wind shield is a bit small, but there are loads of after-market screens if its a problem.
Thank you for the feedback, Walter. We actually have a split screen data sheet for the performance figures at @7:23, but not for the specs. Are you referring to that, or some other data that you would have liked to see? Pls do let us know.
The F 900xr is 105 hp abd not 99 hp. Although there are 3 different engine power outputs in the international market that being 95hp, 99hp and 105 hp. India gets 105hp variant only.
Honda CRF1100 Africatwin still the best, after all tiger loose the inline3 engine character that the old siblings had. I love Africatwin's 270° big bore twin with akrapovic full system 😘. It is 1000 times better in terms of quality and reliability. Sorry if I offended tiger fans😅.
I tested both of these bikes but when it came to buying I bought the XR. The tingling vibration of the Tiger was too much for my old body (70yrs) and made my shoulders and arms hurt. It also felt top heavy in comparison to the BMW. I’ve no regrets for my decision and feel that the XR is a better road bike than the 2016 Honda Africa Twin that I had previously owned. Good review.
It's heartening to know when at 70 you are still riding. I can only hope I a) live that long and B) have the energy to ride these big bikes. Though everything will be electric by then I suppose
@@brendonfernandes2877 Thank you for your nice comment. I count myself very privileged to have lived and rode through what may come to be called the golden age of true motorcycling.
You are an inspiration still going strong as a rider at 70. I am in the same dilemma, have booked a Tiger 850 sport but the waiting period is upwards of 6 months here in India which is a bummer. I liked the XR too but I have heard the heat dissipation is not great and ends up cooking your thigh/legs in a hotter climate. Any thoughts?
The white BMW is by far the most sporty of the 3 colors! And it's a sport / tourer, not an adventure bike. And when the BMW app is instaled, the connection is perfect and you have navigation in the TFT screen. Do some more research before making the comparise video.
great review, sounds like if you lean towards the sport in sport touring, you should get the beemer, if you want more touring from your sport tourer, go with the triumph
I've just taken delivery of a Tiger 900 GT Pro and I love it. I couldn't try any BMW alternatives as there were no demo machines. I feel I gave an all-round/go-anywhere machine, well pleased with it.
Id keep my 750gs is bmw supported it with parts/ service. Sold my 900xr after 4 months as wait 3 months for any parts; if needed. Now looking at the tiger GT pro or Kaw versys
Didn't get why these 2 were compared. I mean would you compare an XR1000 with a Tiger Explorer. No right ? Get the comparos right !!! Bring a GS Vs Tiger. Didn't help me while I was looking fr a fair fight against XR.
hi I'm planning to upgrade from 310gs and started exploring all the bikes under 15lck in India -and finally confused between Tiger 850 sport and 900XR wherein I love 900xr the most but I have been told that 900xr has many issues like coolant leaking and engine shutoff during the ride ..I'm aware its a sport tourer and not a proper off-road bike..but still I'm ok with that but the issues in brand new bikes is what confusing me..need genuine feedback on the 900xr pro owners is their an issue in the bike really..thanks in advance.
The review felt too much biased toward Tiger. You guys missed a pot of features of the Xr. It has got electronic suspension in which you can not only adjust the preload but also you can adjust the way suspension acts. You have got 2 suspension mode. This bike has 2 ride modes but you can add 2 more sportier riding mode. You missed to tell us the ground clearance of both the bike. If you look at more features then the Xr has also got a steering damper. So looking at the comparison chart at the last of your video i think that the tiger 900 was overrated at a lot of places.
Those are part of an optional package upgrade. Not standard equipment. This is the first time you have to pay money get additional riding modes. First in segment.
If I had to buy a 900cc bike I would probably get the Tracer over both. I have not tested the Tiger and I do like the Triumph brand. I see no point on getting a bike just because it is lighter than bikes I would prefer to own or keep. These bikes weigh about 480lbs or so, whereas my R1250RS weighs about 50 lbs more. This Beemer is very well balanced. I have also started looking at the Moto Guzzi V100 that weighs about 515lbs.
Great video. Thanks. I’ve tried the Triumph and am riding the BMW F900XR next week. I’m also trying the Ducati Multistrada V2, which looks even better than its predecessor, so I’ really looking forward to that.
Its a fantastic tourer and much cheaper than these bikes but its also very very heavy and a bit too top heavy. Quality of components is not the best. The dash looks dated compared to these and the in line 4 engine doesn't do too well with bad fuel something which is unfortunately common in less travelled parts of India. But overall its a great VFM tourer.
Trust me the Motoz Rallz are the tires for the 900 Rally Pro. It turned mine into a completely different animal. I ride it just like he does out here in AZ and it's a monster 😉
The BMW is not road focused, rather road only while the Tiger is clearly the better option if you like a mix of both. This is what I think reading tons of reviews and speaking with actual owners. Not a fair comparison, the F750 is perhaps a better alternative. If the Yamaha Tracer is in India or comes, a more fair comparison
@@chrishart8548 agree but BMW had to make space for the F850 GS with basically the same engine. Two different approaches but the Triumph is more popular in the class. I rarely see any F750s but tons of Tigers. Now with the Tiger 850, there is no reason to look at the F750.
@@ajojoseph6052 bmw try not to make there own models compete. The f800gs could of been much better but could risk taking r1200gs sales. And the f700gs made very little sense unless bought used for much less as they don't hold there money well. Other manufacturers pick up sales instead
@@chrishart8548 yes. But I don’t think many people will cross shop between the 800s and 1200s. Technically they shouldn’t. Both are different animals that differ in ever way, weight, engine type, final drive, ride comfort, electronics.
The Busa is not a comfortable bike to ride. As litre class bikes go it's more comfortable than say a Zx10r but the Tiger or the XR is leagues ahead in comfort than the Busa. Also the Busa will hit speedbreakers like anything
@@amardeep851 The problem is the V Storm is a bit hard to swallow considering the Bs4 was quite a bit lower in price. The BS6 got nothing upgraded but they substantially upgraded the price. If you need a bike with good off road capabilities the V Storm is a good option but a 650cc bike for 11l feels very overpriced to me. If I had that much budget I would pick up a used Tiger. Nothing against the capable V Storm but features and fit and finish is competing with much cheaper bikes and you might wish to upgrade in future pretty quickly. The Tiger will take some time to grow out off
@@brendonfernandes2877 Yes, Tiger is bench mark for ADVs but European or American bikes gets your wallet when it comes to service & maintenance. You are right, I might end up with used tiger 1200 too, with that budget but I might also end up paying more while maintaining it. Plus Vstrom can be my everyday bike plus touring both on/off road. Service & maintenance is less expensive. And many off friends have to wait almost 4 - 6 weeks for spares. I love Tiger but I will putting some serious miles, which means, I would be need consumables on time. So with either some future KTM (60 - 70 bhp) or Vstrom.
@@amardeep851 Fair point but unless you damage the bike regular servicing isn't terribly expensive. The V Storm has a 6 month service interval and you will spend around 16k per year. The Tiger will set you back 10k for it's yearly service interval. But replacing parts is expensive though you can get 3rd party parts like ebc brake pads, DID chainset + sprockets etc to reduce the service costs. At the end you might spend around 50k more over 5 years over the V Storm and you will definitely appreciate the higher fit and finish levels along with the extra power.
@@arunsekhar1 The name being registered means nothing. We don't know if it's the Tracer 900, Tracer 700 or if Yamaha is launching a Tracer 150. Yamaha haven't had any success in the big bike segment and nobody knows if they will even play in that segment anymore after the MT09 flopped badly
I went with the BMW and very happy with my choice. I think its more comfortable to ride, better to look at. I purchased the 22 fully loaded all optioned XR.
I recently rode both bikes and ended up purchasing the Tiger 900 GT. I commute 100 miles every day, and the tiger 900 GT suspension feels like a Cadillac when set up properly.
Sweet. But what about mentioned vibrations in 4K+ rpm range? I currently ride mt07 - and the only reason I want to change this cheap-o bike is the vibrations...
I don't think this is even the right comparison. Both are completely different machines.
You should be comparing BMW 850GS
That would be compared with a 900 tiger rally Pro. Always compare cast wheeled bikes with cast wheel bikes
nice review, my vote goes to the BMW....also, time for some new boots brother!
I've a Triumph Street Triple, fabulous bike and Triumph are my favorite top quality brand, I had to put a Puig screen on the front mind. I was looking at a new Street Triple but I want something with better wind protection for touring and short weekend adventures, Triumph seem hooked on naked bikes at the moment, why their marketing people have decided against making a faired street triple similar to the F900XR or Ducati Supersport is beyond me. So for me after much consideration it's either a F900XR or Tiger900G, they both have low seat options too and I like getting both feet down. I must say at the moment I am leaning towards the BMW, it looks good and every review raves about it, the only downer is the wind shield is a bit small, but there are loads of after-market screens if its a problem.
Well done. Due to my five second attention span it would be helpful to have data held for a few more seconds and compared on a split screen.
Thank you for the feedback, Walter. We actually have a split screen data sheet for the performance figures at @7:23, but not for the specs. Are you referring to that, or some other data that you would have liked to see? Pls do let us know.
Ever heard of pause?
The F 900xr is 105 hp abd not 99 hp. Although there are 3 different engine power outputs in the international market that being 95hp, 99hp and 105 hp. India gets 105hp variant only.
country dependent for many options.
Honda CRF1100 Africatwin still the best, after all tiger loose the inline3 engine character that the old siblings had. I love Africatwin's 270° big bore twin with akrapovic full system 😘. It is 1000 times better in terms of quality and reliability. Sorry if I offended tiger fans😅.
It's a lot more expensive and the Tiger out sells the Honda by a massive margin in India.
I tested both of these bikes but when it came to buying I bought the XR. The tingling vibration of the Tiger was too much for my old body (70yrs) and made my shoulders and arms hurt. It also felt top heavy in comparison to the BMW. I’ve no regrets for my decision and feel that the XR is a better road bike than the 2016 Honda Africa Twin that I had previously owned. Good review.
It's heartening to know when at 70 you are still riding. I can only hope I a) live that long and B) have the energy to ride these big bikes. Though everything will be electric by then I suppose
@@brendonfernandes2877
Thank you for your nice comment. I count myself very privileged to have lived and rode through what may come to be called the golden age of true motorcycling.
You are an inspiration still going strong as a rider at 70. I am in the same dilemma, have booked a Tiger 850 sport but the waiting period is upwards of 6 months here in India which is a bummer. I liked the XR too but I have heard the heat dissipation is not great and ends up cooking your thigh/legs in a hotter climate. Any thoughts?
@@gurudutt83
Thank you for your kind words. I’ve not had any heat dissipation problems here in the UK but then our temperatures tend to be much lower.
why did triumph cancel the 850 sport; sounded perfect. LIghter; lower and basics for a bit less $
The white BMW is by far the most sporty of the 3 colors! And it's a sport / tourer, not an adventure bike. And when the BMW app is instaled, the connection is perfect and you have navigation in the TFT screen. Do some more research before making the comparise video.
not good comparison here, as the tiger gt pro has all options same as 900xr. The new GT pro 2024 has better tft layout.
I’ll take the Triumph. German engineering is to expensive to maintain.
750gs not discontinued; same as before 77 hp. new 800gs is 87 hp with same 750 frame.
African twin non dct variants is also comparable and my eyes African twin is make more sense in adventure touring segment
costs 19 lakhs 😁😁😁 you better go with r1250gs
great review, sounds like if you lean towards the sport in sport touring, you should get the beemer, if you want more touring from your sport tourer, go with the triumph
Two solid choices in this category. I wound up purchasing the 2021 Tracer 9 GT. Very happy.
10hp more with 1 less piston sounds good on paper and it's lighter too at 220kg
Be careful sometimes numbers on a paper are just that, numbers on a paper
I'm liking the Tiger 900 gt, sounds great for road use and I think it looks better than the Xr. Good video
I've just taken delivery of a Tiger 900 GT Pro and I love it. I couldn't try any BMW alternatives as there were no demo machines. I feel I gave an all-round/go-anywhere machine, well pleased with it.
Please review about African Twin DCT vs BMW R 1250 Adventure
750ga has new models for 2024
pannier seat far better on the tiger 900 GT pro
hows the vibration
Important fact overlooked is that the range of the XR makes it less suitable for touring.
It's more sporty
It's the sport tourer
It's their new trend... Look at the g310gs.... Has a joke for a fuel tank...
Id keep my 750gs is bmw supported it with parts/ service. Sold my 900xr after 4 months as wait 3 months for any parts; if needed. Now looking at the tiger GT pro or Kaw versys
Xsr900 is closer to the tiger gt
Didn't get why these 2 were compared. I mean would you compare an XR1000 with a Tiger Explorer. No right ? Get the comparos right !!! Bring a GS Vs Tiger. Didn't help me while I was looking fr a fair fight against XR.
Changing the tiger TFT layout and items is a plus ! Seat lower on tiger. Cruise control in the gt pro. Xr pannier seat - poor
hi I'm planning to upgrade from 310gs and started exploring all the bikes under 15lck in India -and finally confused between Tiger 850 sport and 900XR wherein I love 900xr the most but I have been told that 900xr has many issues like coolant leaking and engine shutoff during the ride ..I'm aware its a sport tourer and not a proper off-road bike..but still I'm ok with that but the issues in brand new bikes is what confusing me..need genuine feedback on the 900xr pro owners is their an issue in the bike really..thanks in advance.
The review felt too much biased toward Tiger. You guys missed a pot of features of the Xr. It has got electronic suspension in which you can not only adjust the preload but also you can adjust the way suspension acts. You have got 2 suspension mode. This bike has 2 ride modes but you can add 2 more sportier riding mode. You missed to tell us the ground clearance of both the bike. If you look at more features then the Xr has also got a steering damper. So looking at the comparison chart at the last of your video i think that the tiger 900 was overrated at a lot of places.
Those are part of an optional package upgrade. Not standard equipment. This is the first time you have to pay money get additional riding modes. First in segment.
On the point..he didn't mention half of the features of BMW
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Good comparison 👍👌
What is that near the left side of the Tiger rear wheel? A bbq grill , a fishing net?
IT is a Sari Guard , a weird standard in INdia.
😂
which has more leg room to stretch out. which is variable for those over 6'
Good info! But It will be great compared between tiger rally pro vs Africa twin.
If I had to buy a 900cc bike I would probably get the Tracer over both. I have not tested the Tiger and I do like the Triumph brand. I see no point on getting a bike just because it is lighter than bikes I would prefer to own or keep. These bikes weigh about 480lbs or so, whereas my R1250RS weighs about 50 lbs more. This Beemer is very well balanced. I have also started looking at the Moto Guzzi V100 that weighs about 515lbs.
I really enjoyed the way the test was done and the discussion points. Excellent
Comparing 900xr with Tiger 850 sport would have been better. As they come at same price.
I agree. In fact, we wanted the Multistrada 950 in this comparison too, but logistics didn’t all it.
Great video. Thanks. I’ve tried the Triumph and am riding the BMW F900XR next week. I’m also trying the Ducati Multistrada V2, which looks even better than its predecessor, so I’ really looking forward to that.
For me it was down to either a triple engine (albeit a new configuration) or a twin engine. I just prefer twins.
Why not Kawasaki Versys 1000 in this comparison , it also VFM Product in this range.
Its a fantastic tourer and much cheaper than these bikes but its also very very heavy and a bit too top heavy. Quality of components is not the best. The dash looks dated compared to these and the in line 4 engine doesn't do too well with bad fuel something which is unfortunately common in less travelled parts of India. But overall its a great VFM tourer.
Love how you took them off road
Buyest review. Telling all good about tiger and negative about bmw
Buyest, it took me a while to understand that, Lolz !!!!
What’s the grill hanging off the back of the tiger?
that's a saree guard.. this is added to follow the laws in India
Why the re-upload....🤔
Put the Perrelli scorpion dual sport on tiger n it outshines
Trust me the Motoz Rallz are the tires for the 900 Rally Pro. It turned mine into a completely different animal. I ride it just like he does out here in AZ and it's a monster 😉
The BMW is not road focused, rather road only while the Tiger is clearly the better option if you like a mix of both. This is what I think reading tons of reviews and speaking with actual owners.
Not a fair comparison, the F750 is perhaps a better alternative. If the Yamaha Tracer is in India or comes, a more fair comparison
The f750gs would have been a lot better if not 77hp with conventional forks
@@chrishart8548 agree but BMW had to make space for the F850 GS with basically the same engine. Two different approaches but the Triumph is more popular in the class. I rarely see any F750s but tons of Tigers. Now with the Tiger 850, there is no reason to look at the F750.
@@ajojoseph6052 bmw try not to make there own models compete. The f800gs could of been much better but could risk taking r1200gs sales. And the f700gs made very little sense unless bought used for much less as they don't hold there money well. Other manufacturers pick up sales instead
@@chrishart8548 yes. But I don’t think many people will cross shop between the 800s and 1200s. Technically they shouldn’t. Both are different animals that differ in ever way, weight, engine type, final drive, ride comfort, electronics.
Awesome... rohit Sir
Great review
If you've 17L to spend on a road tourer, get a busa
The Busa ain't a road tourer,bruh.
The Busa is not a comfortable bike to ride. As litre class bikes go it's more comfortable than say a Zx10r but the Tiger or the XR is leagues ahead in comfort than the Busa. Also the Busa will hit speedbreakers like anything
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17 lakhs fuck !!!
V strom here I come :p
That's not far off at 11l :p
@@brendonfernandes2877 dude ! my budget is between 8 - 10 max ... else why not buy the GS 1250 - the tractor !
@@amardeep851 The problem is the V Storm is a bit hard to swallow considering the Bs4 was quite a bit lower in price. The BS6 got nothing upgraded but they substantially upgraded the price. If you need a bike with good off road capabilities the V Storm is a good option but a 650cc bike for 11l feels very overpriced to me. If I had that much budget I would pick up a used Tiger. Nothing against the capable V Storm but features and fit and finish is competing with much cheaper bikes and you might wish to upgrade in future pretty quickly. The Tiger will take some time to grow out off
@@brendonfernandes2877 Yes, Tiger is bench mark for ADVs but European or American bikes gets your wallet when it comes to service & maintenance. You are right, I might end up with used tiger 1200 too, with that budget but I might also end up paying more while maintaining it. Plus Vstrom can be my everyday bike plus touring both on/off road. Service & maintenance is less expensive. And many off friends have to wait almost 4 - 6 weeks for spares. I love Tiger but I will putting some serious miles, which means, I would be need consumables on time. So with either some future KTM (60 - 70 bhp) or Vstrom.
@@amardeep851 Fair point but unless you damage the bike regular servicing isn't terribly expensive. The V Storm has a 6 month service interval and you will spend around 16k per year. The Tiger will set you back 10k for it's yearly service interval. But replacing parts is expensive though you can get 3rd party parts like ebc brake pads, DID chainset + sprockets etc to reduce the service costs. At the end you might spend around 50k more over 5 years over the V Storm and you will definitely appreciate the higher fit and finish levels along with the extra power.
❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥
I hate the looks of these new breed of street biased adventure tourers, like this bmw or the aprillia tuono 🤮
Yamaha tracer
Why mention bikes not even available in India ? :(
The name is registered. Await the launch soon. With Yamaha service network, that will be sweet deal
@@arunsekhar1 The name being registered means nothing. We don't know if it's the Tracer 900, Tracer 700 or if Yamaha is launching a Tracer 150. Yamaha haven't had any success in the big bike segment and nobody knows if they will even play in that segment anymore after the MT09 flopped badly
Tiger. The triple completely outclasses the BMW. Drawback is the TFT software, BMW betterr tech.