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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thank you guys for watching I hope everyone is excited about the upcoming Mirage F-1EE it should make for some really fun cold war era missions.

    • @larsgottlieb
      @larsgottlieb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you okay GS? It used to be a video per day, now it's been 3 days pause?
      Not trying to push you sir; genuinely concerned for you.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@larsgottlieb Hi Lars, I'm doing great thank you for your concern, I'm working on some stuff in the background and its taking some time but I expect to get back into the flow of things soon. Thank you again.

  • @IndyBobcat
    @IndyBobcat ปีที่แล้ว +358

    Driving into my neighborhood the other day I saw a squirrel running from a yard into the street. I started drifting left to allow him time to realize his mistake. "What are you doing," my wife asked. "Maneuvering in relation to the bandit," I replied.
    The squirrel bugged out without incident.
    Love the content, GS. Keep up the good work!

    • @rattleheadx
      @rattleheadx ปีที่แล้ว +35

      That got an audible laugh. Literal LOL. You win the internet for today!

    • @BrianTRice77
      @BrianTRice77 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Definitely a good phrase with a raccoon or bigger mammal! With a squirrel, it’s just cute ☺️

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Always maintain visual and maneuver in relation to the bandit. Well done 👍

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Hahahaha...well done sir...well done.
      Best laugh i had all day.

    • @alecd8676
      @alecd8676 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I lol'd

  • @Harakoni_Warhawks
    @Harakoni_Warhawks ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Fun facts : The Mirage F1EE was an Export version for Spain and the Spaniards bought 22 of them!

    • @raven1844
      @raven1844 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THAT IS NOT TRUE

    • @Maxthepro1012
      @Maxthepro1012 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@raven1844how so?

    • @hey.its.i3lue149
      @hey.its.i3lue149 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@raven1844But it is though…

    • @onyx6847
      @onyx6847 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@raven1844 source: i’m right just trust

    • @lt_dreams96
      @lt_dreams96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@onyx6847 He's right tho.
      Source: Trust ME. Im always right

  • @ranki1392
    @ranki1392 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Here in Spain we are very fond of the Mirage F1. More than once I have had the opportunity to see it and its sharp lines are spectacular.

  • @Sparra2629
    @Sparra2629 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Love these cold war era dogfights

  • @aayushmk8623
    @aayushmk8623 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I'm quite interested to see how Naval Air combat would be. Air to Air over water would be a lot harder because no terrain to hide.
    Would be nice to see how that would work!

    • @Adam-qk5tt
      @Adam-qk5tt ปีที่แล้ว +15

      fire - splash, thats how it would work xd

    • @aayushmk8623
      @aayushmk8623 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Adam-qk5tt I was thinking the same thing lmao. It'd be a race to see who could get lock on first

    • @briantoplessbar4685
      @briantoplessbar4685 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aayushmk8623and that’s what makes the f-14 such a total beast over water

  • @volatile5460
    @volatile5460 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I sense we’ll be getting nothing but cold war content for 2 months straight as soon as the F-4E drops

    • @KKH808
      @KKH808 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!

    • @DIVeltro
      @DIVeltro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd love to see how the sexy little French lady would do against a Phantom or F-5...

  • @gblowe62
    @gblowe62 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    really, really enjoyed the take-off scene and in cocpit management. the landing at the end is awesome. definitely could use more vids of this type.

  • @c3geekyo713
    @c3geekyo713 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the anotations that you are doing on your videos. I helps following along and knowing what you see or what you're talking about.

  • @lilletrille8998
    @lilletrille8998 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video Sir! We did a squadron thing last weekend, and we could not carry Fox1s, but at the end of the evening I got a lock on warning and a lauch warning, I did not know if it was a FA-18C or a F-14 but I dumped my 3 tanks and ran away - found myselfe doing Mach 1.2 on the ground..and it saved my pink butt - I love the Mirage F1!!!!

  • @LEOjunk
    @LEOjunk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid as always. The red circle really helps, especially to highlight the bandit on smaller screens.

  • @oliveroli4945
    @oliveroli4945 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great fight! The F1 Mirage is a beautiful plane. I had the opportunity to see him live at the Tanagra base in Greece.

  • @braedynhoward3644
    @braedynhoward3644 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I find the Mirage F 1 to be a very interesting plane. My dad (red air "instructor") is learning to fly the Mirage f 1, which he says is one of the most difficult things he's done having to go from imperial measurements to metric measurements and US instruments to old French Instruments. The planes actually have a very similar paint job to the one in this video... I'd love to see more F 1 content!

    • @evangalinsky2499
      @evangalinsky2499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would doubt this if I didn't see Mirage F-1's participating in Northern Lighting this year (basically a much smaller Red Flag and based out of Wisconsin instead of Arizona)

    • @notJkun
      @notJkun ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does he fly for ATAC? My dad currently flies the F1 for ATAC doing aggressor squadron stuff, which is why I got this module.

    • @braedynhoward3644
      @braedynhoward3644 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@evangalinsky2499 Look up Draken International. They have A4 Skyhawks and Mirage F 1s at Kinston NC, where my dad works. They are red air for an F 15 squadron mainly that flies out of Seymour Johnson. They may also receive block 60 F 16s which the company recently purchased (when they receive them) if the contract calls for it, and then he would learn to fly the F 16 also.

    • @braedynhoward3644
      @braedynhoward3644 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@notJkun Oh awesome! No, he flies for Draken International. He knows a bunch of guys at ATAC though. He's in Kinston NC rn managing the operation there, they fly red air for Seymour Johnson. He currently flies the A4, soon the F1, and Draken may get block 60 F 16s there soon, which would be cool if he got to fly them. What'd your dad fly in the military? Mad dad flew f 18s.

    • @notJkun
      @notJkun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@braedynhoward3644 my dad flew f-18s as well. Operation Southern Watch. After that he spent most of his career as a test pilot. PAX River and China Lake mostly.

  • @sfctw1
    @sfctw1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now this module is getting way more interesting than it has been !

  • @FenrisSulfr
    @FenrisSulfr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice Vid GS!! Also like the red circles you use to show where your looking at in the cockpit and at the bandits^^

  • @owenmathews8806
    @owenmathews8806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved watching the F1 coming in for landing reminded me of the Specat Jaguar.

  • @mostikus2298
    @mostikus2298 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, what a video. I got to 'learn' how the newer jets behave thanks to you and watching a ton of your videos lately.. but fights with these planes are just another story.. great video man, appreciate all the uploads. Much love

  • @hedgegategator6715
    @hedgegategator6715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    N566EM is registered to Draken International. They bought 20 F-1EMs (the upgraded F-1EE) from Spain after they decommissioned them in 2013.

  • @voorhees7796
    @voorhees7796 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a french dcs pilot , i say , well doooone💪🇨🇵

  • @wipplewopple1876
    @wipplewopple1876 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd still love to see wingman (2v2 or 3v3) dogfights to see how it changes the dynamics.

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani4700 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still have that large poster of this beauty rolled and kept safe inside a pipe in the basement, a south african F1 in green and yellow with grey underbelly, four rocket pods and two fox twos plus a center line bag in classic white. This machine is in the kiss and goodnight category...

  • @seanmcardle
    @seanmcardle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the red arrows and circles. Makes watching on a small screen much easier.

  • @noraswatinfotainment
    @noraswatinfotainment ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the most impressive coldwar jet that dcs currently have, before tornado available.

  • @ConradsStudio
    @ConradsStudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dunno why, but I really enjoy watching you land at the end. Be happy to see that as a regular thing.

  • @claytonanderson578
    @claytonanderson578 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Great fight! Back not too long ago when the F-1 came out, you did a video with it versus a period(ish) Viper, and the Viper was just on another level. Do you think this EE variant would put up much of a better fight? I'd like to see that if possible.

    • @NuclearFalcon146
      @NuclearFalcon146 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Early Vipers lacked BVR capability and despite having similar flight characteristics were overall MUCH less capable than later AMRAAM slinging Vipers. Assuming that it was not up against a block 15 ADF that had AIM-7s, the Viper's lack of ANY ability to engage BVR would put it at a significant disadvantage vs a Mirage F-1 EE. However if it evades the Super 530 missiles then things are even at the head-on Fox 2 approach and at the merge the Viper's ability to load up to six AIM-9s give it the clear edge. TLDR, fight the early Viper BVR and do not let it get close. If the 530s miss, then run.

    • @catfood_03_4stray
      @catfood_03_4stray ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Back in early 1982 ( the entrance in service of the Spanish Mirage-F1EE ) the current version of the F-16 was the F-16A without BVR missiles, only with AIM-9L's, without decent IFF, with 25.000 lbs of thrust ( instead of the 29.000 lbs of the "Viper" ). As far as I know the Super Matra 530F was available since 1978 and was fully compatible with the French Mirage-F1C's, much earlier than the entrance in service of the Mirage-F1E ( export version ). The French upgrade of the aircraft was designated as Mirage-F1CT, it featured an engine with a 4% higher thrust. The radar of the Mirage-F1E ( Cyrano-IVM ) has the same air-to-air performance as the radar of the Mirage-F1C ( Cyrano-IV ). The new version has upgraded air-to-ground capabilities with CCIP and CCRP modes, somehow less affected by the clutter, with some look-down capability and the facility of carying laser pods to operate the AS-30L air-to-ground missile.

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure about the Super 530, but the Magics are pretty maneuverable IIRC. Good fight, and really let's the older F1 shine.

  • @charlesc7723
    @charlesc7723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The F1 is certainly cool looking. Visibility is not the best, but you get use to it. You are right, she gets friendlier in the turn with less fuel, but I still struggle with maintaining the turning circle.

  • @spooderp1074
    @spooderp1074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the Mirage F1, especially when its flown well in its time

  • @goblindog3443
    @goblindog3443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the new missiles, it could be fun to see a redo of the F-16 vs Mirage F1 video where the F-16 only has fox 2 missiles. As I understand it, the variant of the Mirage F1 the Iraqis had was one of the most modern versions of the aircraft.

  • @F1MechNoah
    @F1MechNoah ปีที่แล้ว

    I work for a company that owns F-1 Mirages. Our F-1s always do red air missions with the F-35s. I would love to see the F-1 and the F-35 clash together on your channel!!

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would love to see this vs the contemporary M2K
    Edit: the Mirage F1 landing kinda reminds me of the Sepecat Jaguar

  • @michaelthebarbarian3380
    @michaelthebarbarian3380 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been swept off my feet with this module... I am in absolute love.

  • @clairecelestin8437
    @clairecelestin8437 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's just something satisfying about a nice clean landing after a sortie

  • @melassal
    @melassal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last upgrade for royal moroccan air force is more capable : new avionics, fox 3 ( Mica EM and IR missile), pulse doppler radar etc…

  • @Archer89201
    @Archer89201 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Matra Super 530 was the first proper BVR for the IAF with the Mirage 2000H, the MiG-23ML had BVR missiles, but they were not considered really good.

  • @Viper81
    @Viper81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Growling can we please have the F1EE on Red Team on your Caucasus server? Red Team needs a Mirage. This one would obviously fit perfectly...🤙

  • @Georgi_Slavov_Rose_Land
    @Georgi_Slavov_Rose_Land 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At 3:25 the radar looks like a glass of soda.Where are the contacts?Is it the small green rectangle in the 3 rd row ,bottom upwards?

  • @Aardvark892
    @Aardvark892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's interesting that DCS has more French flyables that IL2 ever had. I'll never understand why the D.520 never made it into IL2. Thanks for posting this, GS!

  • @longjohnpilsners7750
    @longjohnpilsners7750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a suggestion I would like to see another F-15 vs Mig-31 Foxhound bvr but with the Aim-120D’s on the F-15, see if they can give some leverage to the fight.

  • @danrieke9988
    @danrieke9988 ปีที่แล้ว

    With all the B/S going on in the world, I sometimes slat over to our vids for a little spiritual relief from the mega-serious. And although it is no substitute for reality, it takes the edge of. Appreciate that dude.

  • @koffeekorner4207
    @koffeekorner4207 ปีที่แล้ว

    He just outrated the 2nd mig there. That was skill. Lol. Way to go Growling. Omg that was awesome.

  • @TOMCATnbr
    @TOMCATnbr ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm playing the Equilibrium campaign right now, and this plane is a true blast !! And the EE will make it even better. I really can't wait for his release.

  • @fidem15893
    @fidem15893 ปีที่แล้ว

    The F1 has a revival as aggressor in a private contractor company working for USAF.

  • @rj5529
    @rj5529 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would be interesting to do a dogfight over some mountains, but have cloud partway up them, would make it tense when trying to cash in energy

  • @Capt_OscarMike
    @Capt_OscarMike ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW, that 2nd pilot punched out as quickly as he could only to become a burnt pancaked....BRUTAL!!!
    ps. Nice recovery after fixating on Pancake man for only a second...I thought you were about to join the BREAKFAST CLUB with him...

  • @tinkertalksguns7289
    @tinkertalksguns7289 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. The new Fox 1 looks like a winner!

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Dassault Mirage F-1 is a basic looking aircraft but a pretty one, like the F-5, and BAe Hawk.

  • @kontiuka
    @kontiuka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like you have about a 17 mile head-on firing range with the 530F. 10 miles more than the 530. Should come in handy.

  • @Playvoodoo
    @Playvoodoo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iraq and Kuwait also used the Mirage F.1 in the 80s.

  • @sfctw1
    @sfctw1 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:33 sound awfully lot like the original Top Gun :D
    dialogue and SFX -wise

  • @tigerpjm
    @tigerpjm ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey GS, when you gonna give the F-104 some love?
    I was watching another video where someone flew a -104 against a couple of MiG-21s and it was really interesting. The whole approach to combat was completely different and super-interesting to watch.

  • @DrHackmoff
    @DrHackmoff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the best results with the F1 by tapping the combat flaps for the tightest part of the turn. too long and you get problems keeping/gaining speed again

  • @lordhickory3322
    @lordhickory3322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice shootdowns! But what about the two aircraft wrecks that are now laying somewhere in the prairie, you're not gonna clean those up? That could start a prairie fire, you know how much CO2 thats gonna release into the atmosphere?
    xD
    Jk jk, love your vids man, keep it up!

  • @5T3V3NB
    @5T3V3NB ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it just me or does that Growling Sidewinder intro sound _EXACTLY_ like Rooster in "Top Gun: Maverick?"
    🤔

  • @TheUnsungHeroes
    @TheUnsungHeroes ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your videos GS , big fan from India !!

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 ปีที่แล้ว

    The french have some amazing air to air missiles.

  • @vicroc4
    @vicroc4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That would've been slightly embarrassing if you'd pancaked immediately after getting that second kill.

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you back and freshly rested for 2023, Growly.
    1st Q of the year...how come neither of those Migs fired missiles at you seeing they would have had you on radar at 30miles or so also?

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, and thank you, ya and their radar is honestly garbage (compared to the F1). if they had managed to get offensive in the rate fight they would have gotten some fox2s off for sure.

  • @paulwoodruff9982
    @paulwoodruff9982 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool vid!... The F-1 is pretty underrated...

  • @thomasharden2727
    @thomasharden2727 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to see some F1 vs F4 fights

  • @ryanmcginn2000
    @ryanmcginn2000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks GS!

  • @curtisvoaden2097
    @curtisvoaden2097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Read to quickly and got excited and thought title said English electric lightening.

  • @DIVeltro
    @DIVeltro ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been very eagerly waiting for another mirage video!!!

  • @D-Ruys
    @D-Ruys ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if they are in DCS, but a video with the starfighter would perhaps be interesting?

  • @akaashbhadra7329
    @akaashbhadra7329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing Content. Please keep it up!

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people would bad mouth the French, but when it comes to fighters, they have really made some good ones, and on top of that they tend to be drop dead sexy imho.

  • @thecodphein467
    @thecodphein467 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just waiting patiently for the F15E videos

  • @thebarstoolprophet
    @thebarstoolprophet ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! More landings!!!

  • @sharkk127
    @sharkk127 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im still waiting for the f4e to come, once it does ill be playing dcs like all hell

  • @shivendrasingh2355
    @shivendrasingh2355 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey GS!! I was just wondering about one thing...I really loved and enjoyed yout TacView Debriefs at the end of fights. Just wanted to know why you might have stopped including those or if you could consider bringing them back again. I'm sure everybody will enjoy them!

  • @ericgonzalez9880
    @ericgonzalez9880 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yes!! love it

  • @lookythat2
    @lookythat2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The F-1 was a BEAUTIFUL airplane!

  • @Icy_vixen
    @Icy_vixen ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video. :) btw, what is the key binding for dogfight mode for the Mirage F1?

  • @DDayJayke
    @DDayJayke ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fine GS video!

  • @jojonewitt7533
    @jojonewitt7533 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos been watching your videos for so long love you channel bro:)

  • @donaldcornley9963
    @donaldcornley9963 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aggressive engagement!

  • @bones10145
    @bones10145 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm anxious for this update. That RWR is the going to be great to have! The CE version is almost useless.

  • @anthonyhewgley5543
    @anthonyhewgley5543 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone else think the f-1 looks like a perfect blend of the f-20 tiger shark and f-16 viper?

  • @crawbag0311
    @crawbag0311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a model for the SAAB J35? Was watching Firebirds, and the mirage reminded me of that scene.

  • @karlchilders5420
    @karlchilders5420 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you ingested some rocks/dirt on that low turn :D Nice job on those first 2 Fishbed kills

  • @paulwoodruff9982
    @paulwoodruff9982 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see an F-1vs a Mirage 3. Basically the same aircraft, but different wings...which is better?

  • @davebartosh5
    @davebartosh5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you're pulling max G's to keep him near the nose think of the G's the missile is pulling to get the shot! It's going a lot faster! haha

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. 👍

  • @Jesus-Is-Lord121
    @Jesus-Is-Lord121 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these vids man

  • @heatblast876
    @heatblast876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Growling sidewinder can you do the BVR match and dogfight between F22 VS SU57 again, but this time you do with the SU57 to challenge the F22 raptor on dogfight as well as on BVR match.

  • @shelby2561
    @shelby2561 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man you haven't uploaded in a few days I was getting worried

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hi, I'm working on something special in the background. Its taking some time, mostly for people who like the history documentary things.

    • @dreamspaceedits
      @dreamspaceedits ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrowlingSidewinder OOOO

    • @CaptainBiggles.
      @CaptainBiggles. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GrowlingSidewinder Exciting! Looking forward to it

    • @shelby2561
      @shelby2561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sweet! Looking forward to it 👍

  • @attari56
    @attari56 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey could we maybe get another JF17 dogfight? love those videos

  • @LONE_WOLF_17
    @LONE_WOLF_17 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna see u against 2 of your dcs friends at the same time at long range

  • @Arkeo36
    @Arkeo36 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine the f1 with the m88 engine

  • @anngo4140
    @anngo4140 ปีที่แล้ว

    My kind of planes!

  • @sparkydiro
    @sparkydiro ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a dog fight between Su 47 and F22 guns only.

  • @ryanrundell8538
    @ryanrundell8538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Day 72: I know you BRIEFLY fought the F 15 STOL vs the SU 57... It was one round. Please do a full video of F 15 STOL vs the SU 57 Dogfight!!!

  • @trkmaq
    @trkmaq ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched a little bit of ur last vid and u posted this

  • @A_bee77
    @A_bee77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do more intercept missions... What of night maps?

  • @lordcrimsonmoon9644
    @lordcrimsonmoon9644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mirage F1 vs MiG-29?

  • @MrShoryuken1
    @MrShoryuken1 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the recent release of 'Devotion', will we be seeing you dogfight a Mig with a Corsair?

  • @mariuscatalin3195
    @mariuscatalin3195 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a second i thought tha ju just slide on the ground 😂

  • @AnonXY-he5cq
    @AnonXY-he5cq ปีที่แล้ว

    why does your sim look so much better than mine when I have everything cranked on ultra

  • @demonhays8460
    @demonhays8460 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see how a j20 would go on this platform for and against

  • @Durzo1259
    @Durzo1259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it just me or do these old planes feel faster?