Budo Attitude présente le maître Tatsuo Suzuki du karate Wado Ryu " Oyho Kumité"
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- Budo Attitude présente le maître Tatsuo Suzuki du karate Wado Ryu. Pratique des Oyho Kumité - DVD "The Essence of Wado Ryu" - www.budo-attitude.com
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At one time and maybe even now…”The Fastest Hands In Japan”.
The other guy's name is Hiroji Fukazawa. He died on june 2010.
Interesting comments, especially from a year ago. I've had 25 years' training in Wado.. In sparring sessions with a Hong Kong Wing Chun student with comparable time in his style, I held my own. I think a lot depends on the student's approach. More of Wado's kata movements are intended for inside close work than 'traditional Western' Bunkai might interpret--Shotokan and boxing types might interpret them to be outside-perimeter applications. The throws in Chinto and Pinan Yondan are exemplary examples of dedicated close work in the Wado katas--I'll bet most intermediate Wado students won't be able to find the throws in those katas without a hint. (They end just at the 'kneeling' "cross-hand blocks" [holding one arm and punching the downed opponent]; these are the two easiest-to-describe-by-very-few-words throws in all the katas except for maybe the first 180* turn in Seishan--yes, that's a throw.)
Most Westerners take a different approach to their lessons and study--more of a 'feed me' attitude than 'I'll go over to this corner and work on this with my imagination'--which is the classic Eastern teaching method--'go, study'. It makes for a big hurdle when working with teachers from the "Far East".
I don't doubt that those instructors seemed gruff, stern, and ill-natured; Asian instructors in those days didn't see (nor accept) a need to be 'tolerant' (nor tolerated). They taught with more of an engineer's approach--"here it is, take it or leave it" my way.
That's not Sakagami, that's Fukazawa Hiroji demonstrating with Suzuki-Sensei.
Mike Wilson, it seems you were a student during their early years. As time passed their command of English improved, and they were able to converse/communicate the finer points of Wado Ryu. The more you study Wado, the more you learn. I think you left t too early...I think they would agree.
R.I.P. Suzuki, he met my wado ryu teacher :)
Also mine....
Wado ryu,arte marcial que amo.treine wado ryu na kii kuu kai com sussumo suzuki!grande mestre...
Well Suzuki was very very special. Makes many of the other videos embarrassingly bad.
Tatsuo Suzuki used to come to Hull UK (with other japanese instructors) to do gradings every 4 months way back in the early 1970's. I have his signature on my old license. Also there was Sakagami who I think is on this video with him. There was another called Kobiashi and another called Maieda. They were horrible natured people and I was glad to see the back of them. The UK federation got fed up of them and decided to run things themselves. In my opinion I don't think any of them would have beaten a good heavy weight boxer or full contact USA karate fighter. A lot of it just did not work in a real fight. I know because prior to the karate I got in a few fights and after the training I realised the karate was only any good at a certain distance in a real fight. My opinion is boxing and wrestling is the best combination for self defence and I did Wado for 15 years and UK Kung fu after which is a bit of joke style, they don't even train for fitness properly. A lot of karate men get a shock when it does not work for them in a close up fight.
I trained Wado for about 5yrs under John Moreton in the 80s. It was tough training and I loved it. I also wondered how effective the techniques would prove in a real fight and eventually found out: I was quickly overwhelmed by a larger opponent and pushed to the ground where a headlock neutralised my skills. I was disillusioned and left Wado Ryu shortly after. Many years later, I now train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (try a headlock now!) and boxing but I missed the traditional art and recently started training Wado Ryu again. I think you have to be selective but there are many strikes, especially kicks, that can be devastating in a real fight.
Chapongir Bashram I've trained Wado myself and been in a few fights (unfortunately) myself... Exact opposite experience, my training saved me everytime. I'm convinced it actually depends on the intructor. I will agree, though, that you feel very unsure of the techniques before you have to use them.
I'm glad your karate training helped you. I wouldn't say it's necessarily the instructor though* - my fight went straight to the ground and it wasn't clear a fight was happening until I was pushed to the floor and life was being choked out of me, it was a situation where practising striking was not preparation. Had I known then what BJJ has taught me, I could have turned the tables and escaped unharmed.
*Sensei John Moreton 8th Dan is a big name in Wado UK, he trained with the Wado masters and with Mr Ohtsuka and won many World Championship fights open to all styles. He is known for his tough no nonsense training style and hard approach.
Chapongir Bashram Oh! I see, yes that makes a big difference. While I was caught off guard most of time, each time my attackers had no real sense of their surroundings. In my first fight, my attacker got my attention then hit me (literally for no reason; school security speculated that it may have been some sort of group/gang initiation). I should've lost that one, as I was outnumbered (6-to-1), but I was in a small space that essentially made it a sort of two on one fight. Well, I probably would've, but security managed to see it and the guys ran. In the next two, I was pushed, but it was either into the wall or a desk. In both situations I remained standing and they were one on one. The fights lasted about the length of one these drills before the guys realized it was best to just let it go. The last I managed to attack first. Again, one on one, short and sweet. Fortunately, haven't been in a fight since!
Tough luck on yours, though. I have since learned that I have no idea what I'm doing on the ground and I'm sure each situation would've turned out differently had I actually been taken to the ground.
It's good to know your skills saved you a nasty kicking - 6:1 is a hell of a fight to make it through. Well done. It must also have given you much confidence in your training, knowing you can defend yourself in a real situation like that.
Not everyone can make it work - they don't have the speed and cannot generate enough power to be effective - and I think you are right that some instructors do not teach good karate or demand an effective standard from their students. Each confrontation has it's own difficulties and you can't be sure of success but at least with preparation the chances of escaping a harmful situation increase. Moreover, practising martial arts is excellent for self control and personal development. I feel lucky to have returned to Wado again and know I will be training for years to come.
sadly wado ryu is not what the masters taught many yrs ago when first introduced in the UK, courses given by senseis that are not qualified and only are interested in cash influx . like sensei vickerman , still teaching garbage . NO wado ryu left ..