Extreme, non-fisheye, wide angles are one of my favorite topics. My first true love, many, many years ago, was a 20mm Takumar lens for my Pentax. I used it almost exclusively. For me, it was great for street photography. As you pointed out, I loved how I could capture people from three or four feet away without them knowing they were in the shot. I believed, by being almost on top of my subject---subjects in candid moments---it gave my pictures of people a sense of immediacy and intimacy . . . almost a kind of urgency. It did close to the same for my portraits. No long ago, I bought a Fuji 10mm to 24mm zoom for my X-E2 . . . it's brought me back to my first love. I've had to force myself not to use it all the time . . . it's an old addiction, returned. I still have that Takumar, even though I don't shoot film anymore. I don't know why, I just can't bear parting with it. One can't dump a first love, a first love dumps him.
Thanks for doing this. Another great video for a budget lens. Looks like you had great fun. I wonder if real estate photographers would consider using this lens for interior photos. Thanks so much.
Hyvää paivää Matti, thanks for this review. Interesting lens having in mind things you pointed out in the video. But as you said it is fun and wide. NS.: where dou you have that great shirt from? I have the Sigma 35mm DG DN Contemporary also.
I own the Laowa C-Dreamer 7.5mm F2.0 super wide angle lens for two years and use it with my mft cameras. Equivalent 15 mm are not extremely wide. I am very satisfied. - The 7Artisans lens you presented can only be judged if you know what crop factor to consider. I think 7Artisans are lagging a bit. The Laowa lens is smaller, lighter, and with f2.0 three stops faster than the one from 7Artisans.
I don't think you can compare your Laowa and this 7Artisans, because these are two completely different lenses. Your lens is for Micro Four Thirds and the 7Artisans 9mm is for Full Frame, which by the way I mention in the video too. Your lens is not nearly as wide as the 7Artisans 9mm. You'd need something like 4.5mm for Micro Four Thirds to be as wide as a 9mm Full Frame lens. No point in comparing apple and orange.
Hi Matti, nice image at 5:17, I sometimes use my 14mm Lens for street photography, but even a 14mm often gets too wide. Have you tried the Laowa 9mm 5.6 ? The Laowa 9mm is smaller and lighter, so the Laowa would more often have a space in a camera bag. The Laowa 9mm have a close focus of 12cm.
If I ever took a trip out to the Grand Canyon or some of the states out in the western US, I'd have a blast with such a lens. Even the mountains in the fall where I am. I enjoyed all your shots, especially the lighting fixture near the end. Thanks for sharing.
You may well consider this "apples-to-oranges" but I love my Laowa 6mm f/2 (MFT, so 12mm EFL/122° AoV and rectilinear--the 7Artisans has a 132° AoV). I got that lens as there were cases when even my Leica 8-18 (16-36 EFL) wasn't wide enough for the scene. Additional selling points for the Laowa "Zero D" (well, very minimal distortion other than keystoning, of course) are filter compatibility (although it helps to use a 58-72 step-up and 72mm filters to avoid vignetting) and contacts for EXIF (plus aperture's controlled in-camera but it's manual focus). Of course, no ultra-wide is going to spend a lot of time mounted as it's just not appropriate for most shots, but it's nice to have. It'll be interesting to see how often I use it once the "newness" wears off. I wondered if that would be a thing with my Oly 60mm Macro but after a couple of years, it's still one of my go-to lenses (120mm is much more versatile than 12mm for my work).
That’s too wide for most everything I do, though could be useful for vlogging if you want to include a lot in the background (and look like an Alien..😊). However, that wireless microphone was excellent. I want one. Cha-Ching!
Really great review . Today I saw briefly another review on the same lense.. but with black & white pictures only. And for whatever reason, to my untrained and amateurish eyes, this lense shines in B&W.
Thanks. Why not, B&W is always a great option, but I have to say it's probably more about the photos and not so much about the lens. In my opinion, that is.
I own a 16-35mm FF lens and I hardly ever use it cuz I can't manage to fill the frame below 24mm. Don't kid yourselves, this 9mm lens is a very, very niche curio.
@@mattisulanto In the U.K. if someone says something is “too wide” they are stating that it would be more useful if it was less wide! I feel you enjoyed the lens because it was unusually wide and both know there are tons of less wide options, so this is what makes the lens different. Hopefully you will agree?
I'm interested in ultra wide but the 5.6 isn't very exciting. If it was at least 4.0 if be much happier, I've seen the difference when shooting in low light. I think I'll go for Laowa's 12mm/2.8 because it's so much faster and the 9mm-12mm difference isn't super big.
The difference is the same as between 35mm and 26mm. It’s a significant difference, but if you need 12mm and not 9mm, then the difference means nothing, of course.
Extreme, non-fisheye, wide angles are one of my favorite topics. My first true love, many, many years ago, was a 20mm Takumar lens for my Pentax. I used it almost exclusively. For me, it was great for street photography. As you pointed out, I loved how I could capture people from three or four feet away without them knowing they were in the shot. I believed, by being almost on top of my subject---subjects in candid moments---it gave my pictures of people a sense of immediacy and intimacy . . . almost a kind of urgency. It did close to the same for my portraits.
No long ago, I bought a Fuji 10mm to 24mm zoom for my X-E2 . . . it's brought me back to my first love. I've had to force myself not to use it all the time . . . it's an old addiction, returned. I still have that Takumar, even though I don't shoot film anymore. I don't know why, I just can't bear parting with it. One can't dump a first love, a first love dumps him.
Thanks for sharing your ultra wide back story.
Love this comparison with iPhone wide angle photos
Audio sounded great. Pretty complete look at this unique lens. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Matti, the audio sounded pretty good.
Thanks so much.
Thank you for including AUD! I was already going to like the video but you just confirmed my choice was a good one :D
Thanks. Hope you'll like it!
Super wide angle lenses are never for every day use. They are for special effects type shots. Ken Rockwell has a nice explanatory page on the subject.
I don't think I said they were for everyday use but thanks for mentioning that anyway.
@@mattisulanto Yes, you did mention that. I was responding to "9mm is too wide" in your title.
i was considering this one but am going to hold off until some more content comes out on the new Laowa FF 10mm f/2.8 C&D Dreamer
Thanks for doing this. Another great video for a budget lens. Looks like you had great fun. I wonder if real estate photographers would consider using this lens for interior photos. Thanks so much.
Thanks. This might be too wide for real estate, but I have to say that I don't know exactly what the clients want.
Hyvää paivää Matti, thanks for this review. Interesting lens having in mind things you pointed out in the video. But as you said it is fun and wide.
NS.: where dou you have that great shirt from? I have the Sigma 35mm DG DN Contemporary also.
Thanks. I got that shirt from Sigma directly. I don't know if they sell them or hand them out at photo shows, for example.
Thanks for the review Matti, I think I might invest in this lens looks like fun! I look forward to all your videos, keep up the great work!
Thanks. The 9mm is worth a look if you are interested in ultra wide.
Hi, l use the 8 to 18mm lieca mft lens on my lumix camera ,great lens.👍📸
I own the Laowa C-Dreamer 7.5mm F2.0 super wide angle lens for two years and use it with my mft cameras. Equivalent 15 mm are not extremely wide. I am very satisfied. - The 7Artisans lens you presented can only be judged if you know what crop factor to consider. I think 7Artisans are lagging a bit. The Laowa lens is smaller, lighter, and with f2.0 three stops faster than the one from 7Artisans.
I don't think you can compare your Laowa and this 7Artisans, because these are two completely different lenses. Your lens is for Micro Four Thirds and the 7Artisans 9mm is for Full Frame, which by the way I mention in the video too. Your lens is not nearly as wide as the 7Artisans 9mm. You'd need something like 4.5mm for Micro Four Thirds to be as wide as a 9mm Full Frame lens. No point in comparing apple and orange.
Thank you for this video. I'm always interested in super wide, rectilinear lenses.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Matti, nice image at 5:17, I sometimes use my 14mm Lens for street photography, but even a 14mm often gets too wide. Have you tried the Laowa 9mm 5.6 ? The Laowa 9mm is smaller and lighter, so the Laowa would more often have a space in a camera bag. The Laowa 9mm have a close focus of 12cm.
Thanks. I have not tried the Laowa 9mm, but it looks like a nice lens too.
Interesting lens, thanks!
My pleasure!
Nice video some great shots there Matti . A bit to wide for me but great price and optics well done 7artisan.
Thanks 👍
If I ever took a trip out to the Grand Canyon or some of the states out in the western US, I'd have a blast with such a lens. Even the mountains in the fall where I am. I enjoyed all your shots, especially the lighting fixture near the end. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, much appreciated.
Does this lens have the resolution to handle any of the highest resolution sensors?
I used my A7IV, 33Mp.
@@mattisulanto thank you. I have to admit that many of these Chinese brands are producing some high quality and/or unique optics.
@@jimzielinski946 Yes, they are progressing fast and making better and better lenses.
We need to see comparison tests with the Laowa 9mm f5.6 FF!!!!
You may well consider this "apples-to-oranges" but I love my Laowa 6mm f/2 (MFT, so 12mm EFL/122° AoV and rectilinear--the 7Artisans has a 132° AoV). I got that lens as there were cases when even my Leica 8-18 (16-36 EFL) wasn't wide enough for the scene. Additional selling points for the Laowa "Zero D" (well, very minimal distortion other than keystoning, of course) are filter compatibility (although it helps to use a 58-72 step-up and 72mm filters to avoid vignetting) and contacts for EXIF (plus aperture's controlled in-camera but it's manual focus). Of course, no ultra-wide is going to spend a lot of time mounted as it's just not appropriate for most shots, but it's nice to have. It'll be interesting to see how often I use it once the "newness" wears off. I wondered if that would be a thing with my Oly 60mm Macro but after a couple of years, it's still one of my go-to lenses (120mm is much more versatile than 12mm for my work).
Comparing two very different lenses is comparing apples and oranges, of course😀
That’s too wide for most everything I do, though could be useful for vlogging if you want to include a lot in the background (and look like an Alien..😊). However, that wireless microphone was excellent. I want one. Cha-Ching!
Really great review . Today I saw briefly another review on the same lense.. but with black & white pictures only. And for whatever reason, to my untrained and amateurish eyes, this lense shines in B&W.
Thanks. Why not, B&W is always a great option, but I have to say it's probably more about the photos and not so much about the lens. In my opinion, that is.
vlogging with an ultra-wide was unexpectedly good.
Yes, we vlog on super wide anyway, like about 18mm, but the 9mm is in another level😀
I own a 16-35mm FF lens and I hardly ever use it cuz I can't manage to fill the frame below 24mm. Don't kid yourselves, this 9mm lens is a very, very niche curio.
It seems that the Laowa 9mm f/5.6 is widest than this 9mm 7 artisans.
Both lenses are 9mm.
And the angle of view seems to be a little different according to some review. 😊
(132° vs 135°) Marc Alhadeff sonyalphablog and others
I'm nitpicking 😅😁
It is too wide for vlogging, you almost look like an alien with this lens
1:55 sounds good but I'll wait until there's a real full metal version
So you'd want metal lens elements too?
@@mattisulanto I'm a stickler for quality 😤
Nah, I do not think so. My favorite lens is the Kinoptik 5mm. I need that extra 6 or 7 degrees of FOV...
I’m not a Kinoptik expert but I think your 5mm does not cover Full Frame (35mm film) sensor.
You seemed to like it, yet your video title seems negative?
That's interesting, but what can I say if you feel that way.
@@mattisulanto In the U.K. if someone says something is “too wide” they are stating that it would be more useful if it was less wide! I feel you enjoyed the lens because it was unusually wide and both know there are tons of less wide options, so this is what makes the lens different. Hopefully you will agree?
I'm interested in ultra wide but the 5.6 isn't very exciting. If it was at least 4.0 if be much happier, I've seen the difference when shooting in low light.
I think I'll go for Laowa's 12mm/2.8 because it's so much faster and the 9mm-12mm difference isn't super big.
The difference is the same as between 35mm and 26mm. It’s a significant difference, but if you need 12mm and not 9mm, then the difference means nothing, of course.