The Bible clearly and consistently declares that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10). The Bible teaches that Christians are to live for God, deny themselves, pick up their cross, and follow Him (Matthew 16:24), including with their sexuality.
@@rlhicks1 religious people give you a cross when you don't follow their rules. What cross are you carrying? In what way have you denied yourself it sounds like you're living a good life.
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*PUBLIC NOTICE!!!* Please don't feed the troll. He ( MichaelMcdonald-my2np) If you engage him, he will say: "I'm just here to discuss the literature with you. I'm not a religious person. According to the literature what is Christ like is what's rejected by religious people for not following their religious laws. I find no fault with the LGBT whatsoever. What have they done? What say you?" Then no matter what you say, no matter what scriptures you provide, all he will do is spout a bunch of heretical nonsense to bring you down to his level. Note: Proverbs 26:4 Matthew 7:6
The fact that God called this sin an abomination and that He also destroyed two cities and their citizens with Sulfur raining down from the heavens because of their homosexual behavior is another thought to ponder on. He clearly is not pleased with this choice of lifestyle.
To be fair, this wasn't the only thing Sodom and Gomorrah committed ... certainly their most famous offense, but not the only one. God had plenty of reasons to do what He did.
@@MrGlynlewis that doesn't mean you can't be LGBT and christian. What is Christlike is what's rejected by religious people. Therefore they make LGBT christians.
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*PUBLIC NOTICE!!!* Please don't feed the troll. He (MichaelMcdonald-my2np) keeps changing his name. If you engage him, he will say: "I'm just here to discuss the literature with you. I'm not a religious person. According to the literature what is Christ like is what's rejected by religious people for not following their religious laws. I find no fault with the LGBT whatsoever. What have they done? What say you?" Then no matter what you say, no matter what scriptures you provide, all he will do is spout a bunch of heretical nonsense to bring you down to his level. Note: Proverbs 26:4 Matthew 7:6
I agree that homosexual ACTIVITY is a sin (not having a homosexual orientation) BUT I will always treat others with dignity, respect and love. We all have the same rights in our society no matter ones age, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, etc.
Your initial statement does not match the tenth commandment. How would you feel about someone lusting after you if you knew about it? Nevertheless, disrespect will never win anyone over. If one cannot respect the person, then respect the Lord in whose image the person was originally made.
Well Jesus in the new testament said that lusting with ones eyes means you already committed adultery in youre heart, so you have to repent from those taughts.
Thank you pastor Nelson, such brilliantly good news! In Christ we are new creations and our identity is in Him. The old is gone, the new has come and we want to lives that glorify Him and honour the Father
We can respect the dignity of homosexuals. But we canNOT support sin. “Supporting sin” is sin itself Romans 1:32 “Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
Mark 2:17 King James Version 17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. We share the Truth in love with them and leave the consequences to the Lord. (Ephesians 4:15) If I see a person with their house on fire, I am going in there to help lead them out.
I am a backsliding Christian but starting to walk back in purity. I struggle with homosexuality (same sex attraction). I had boyfriends recently and have asked God to forgive me but I still feel guilty like I may go to Hell for turning against God. What does that mean or why is this happening to me?
God is perfect. Unlike us, we need to change our minds sometimes because we don't get it right the first time. God doesn't change his views on what and what is not sin. We do because we are imperfect creatures. Take care
@@frosted1030 It may be true people are born into bad situations but I think if you are truthful. most of the things that go wrong in our lives most times are from our own bad decisions and sometimes the bad decisions of others. Take care
For some people, The “patriarchy argument” continues in their treatment of Romans 1:26-27, which is perhaps the most explicit condemnation of same-sex behavior in the Bible. Here Paul speaks of idolaters and how God, “ . . . gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” Some claim that the “unnatural” intercourse in this passage involved men taking the woman’s passive role in sex and women taking the man’s active role. It had everything to do with ancient patriarchy and nothing to do with either the anatomy of men and women or the body’s natural purpose. But this totally misses the point of the “exchange repetition” in Romans 1. Prior to Romans 1:26 Paul says that Creation shows there’s one true God and the idolaters have no excuse not to worship him (Romans 1:20). But their minds were “darkened” and they *exchanged* the proper end of their worship, or God, for an improper end, or idols (verses 21-23). Next, their bodies were “defiled” and they *exchanged* the proper object of their belief, or “the truth about God,” for “a lie.” This could only happen because they suppressed knowledge of God that becomes obvious when we think about creation. Finally, their passions were “degraded” and women *exchanged* the natural object of their sexual desires, or men, for women and men did likewise. What all of these exchanges have in common is not failing to adhere to society’s moral norms, but failing to adhere to the natural order seen in creation itself - whether it’s worship of the creator or sexual relations with the natural partner. Paul even uses the Greek words for “male” and “female” instead of the Greek words for “men” and “women” to no doubt harken back to the creation account in Genesis 1 which describes how God made humans “male and female.”
Thank you for saying "His Standards of Holiness Did Not Change With The Coming Of Jesus, Because God Does Not Change." Truth be told, we all need a Savior. That's why Jesus came. Instead, of being quick to respond. Let us examine ourselves, before we are so quick to make judgements about others. Whats in your hidden closet that only you think you know! (food for thought), yet God sees all and knows all. For all those wondering. I am married to a man and yes, I am a woman.
Jesus *did* address the issue of homosexuality. Jesus addresses it in Matthew 5 & Matthew 19. In these chapters, Jesus addresses the issue of marriage. Jesus rooted His understanding of marriage in the teaching of Genesis 2, which gives us marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation, illustration and sanctification. He also made it very clear that what God has joined together, man cannot separate. In other words, God is the author of marriage, not man. Therefore, God is the one who defines marriage, not man. Therefore, man does not have the right to introduce the concept of same sex marriage because: 1.) By definition it's not marriage, it's another thing. 2.) Because by definition, it goes against what has been created in Genesis 2. Jesus did address the issue of homosexuality, because He addressed the issue of sexual impurity. He addressed the issue of fornication. Jesus in the sermon on the mount talks about porneia. He talks about sexual impurity, which is a reference to the porneia code in leviticus 18 which clearly upholds the idea that homosexuality is sinful. The Bigger issue with "Jesus never said anything about homosexuality" is that it's not just that Jesus is God but that Jesus is a member of the Godhead. It's not just that Jesus is divine, but that He is a member of the Trinity. Jesus has existed eternally as God & Jesus has existed eternally in perfect union with the Father and The Holy Spirit. Although He ook on a human nature in His incarnation, He did not come into existence in His incarnation. You cannot divorce Jesus from the rest of the Bible. Therefore, when you read in Leviticus 20:1 that "The Lord said to Moses" then that *is* Jesus speaking. You also cannot separate Jesus from the Father and the Holy Spirit on the issue of homosexuality. You cannot claim that Jesus never addressed the issue of homosexuality, unless you want to argue that Jesus has a different opinion on the matter than God the Father & God the Holy Spirit, which is hugely problematic because that would mean a breach in the Trinity and the whole universe would cave in on itself. Lastly, The Bible is one story. Not many. You can no more separate Jesus from Paul or Peter than you can separate Jesus from The Father or The Holy Spirit. What do the apostles teach? The apostles are whose apostles? They are Christ's apostles. So the teaching that they give us, is the authoritative teaching of the church from The Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
1 Cor. 6:9 lists adulterers among those not inheriting the kingdom of God, however, we know King David went to heaven based on his going to his dead child who went there according to 2 Sam. 12:23 and King David was an adulterer having had many wives and concubines. Please explain this.
Some people's treatment of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 focuses on the Greek words malakoi and arsenokoitai (the latter of which also appears in plural form in 1 Timothy 1:10), whom Paul says will not inherit the Kingdom of God. People argue that these words do not refer to monogamous same-sex relationships or “homosexuals” as some modern translations render the words. Instead, malakoi is ambiguous and could just mean “weak” or “soft” while arsenokoitai refers to some kind of sexual exploitation or pederasty (sex with post-pubescent children). But if that’s the case then why doesn’t Paul just use the Greek word for pederasty (or paiderastes)? Keep in mind that before he condemns the malakoi and arsenokoitai for their persistence in sin, Paul condemns idolaters and adulterers and then he condemns thieves and greedy people. Adultery and idolatry are often associated in the Bible and thievery and greed certainly go together. This makes it likely that arsenokoitai goes hand-in-hand with malakoi. The fact that arsenokoitai matches the Greek words in the Septuagint’s translation of Leviticus 20:13 is unmistakable. The word breaks down to “arseno” (or “male”) and koite (or “bed”) and literally means “man-bedder.” Paul is saying that at one point some Corinthians practiced the active and passive roles in same-sex behavior but, as verse 11 says, “this is what some of you *used to be.* But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.” Just because certain people once engaged in same-sex behavior that is no barrier to them being sanctified by the grace of God. God loves them and us and wants everyone to understand their true identities not as being “gay” or “straight,” but as being sons and daughters of the Most High. *Conclusion:* Finally, when interpreting these passages it’s important to have the Bible’s whole context in mind and that’s why the affirmation of male-female sexual pairing in both Genesis 2 and Matthew 19 cannot be ignored. The Bible never portrays same-sex relationships in a positive light but it does portray opposite sex relationships in that way. People's answer to this is to say that the description of man and woman coming together as “one flesh” relates to a very close emotional union and not to anything intrinsic to men and women. But this misses the point that when men and women have vaginal intercourse their body parts work together as an organically ordered whole to accomplish a purpose that cannot be achieved if the two were separate - the creation of new human life. The two retain their identities just as a patient who receives a heart transplant retains his unique DNA, but in both cases two sets of DNA become one in function. No other merging of body parts can accomplish this organically ordered “one flesh” union. God’s Word is not open to personal interpretation in this matter. *Homosexuality is wrong; it always has been, and it always will be.*
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"Homosexuality as an *orientation* is not addressed in scripture" Firstly. The Bible tells us in Matthew 15:19 that it begins in our hearts and minds. Before we commit an act of sin, we will think about it. All sin starts in the mind. Then terms: "vile affections", "burned in their lust", "working", "natural use", etc. are used in Romans 1:24-27 (KJV), & clearly involve both mental and physical homosexuality.
2 Corinthians 11: 3: But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, . . . Matthew 19: 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. See also Matthew 24: 24. And then consider all the Prophets on Christian Network TV. Fake Ewes. Wormwood = the Snake in the Cross that poisons 1/3rd of the waters -- the people. "You KNEW damn well I was a snake, before you took me in." Matthew 6: 5-8. Revelation 3: 6-12. Matthew 16: 17-18.
Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. So is Heterosexuality. A sexual orientation is not a sin. The Bible should say Homosexual activity between people of the same sex is sinful. This part of the Bible was added to emphasise sexual sin. The word "Homosexuality " was never a part of the original Bible.
Once upon a time I was conservative but I left that camp because most diehards treat Scriptures as if they override the cultural context yet they reflect and are heavily influenced by the events shaping history If homosexuality is sin and unnatural, we wouldn't be waiting for someone named Paul in the common era to spell it out to the so-called Gentiles who were already used to it leave alone Jesus who barely mentioned it
Jesus did mention sexual immorality, which also includes homosexuality, when speaking about the things that come from a man's heart that defile the man. Why does He need to specifically say homosexuality for you to get the message? Also Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery in his heart. You can't reason that Jesus could say that whoever looks at someone of the same sex to lust after them commits a homosexual act in their heart? You would have to deny that Jesus is part of the Godhead to say that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality at all in the Bible.
@@VicGeorge2K6 there is a clear distinction between what is considered moral/immoral and what can be classified as orientation today The view of Jesus is reflective of the second Temple rabbinic ethics and possibly the Stoic ethics which leveraged on the sexual conduct suited for their philosophical ideologies Even in the scenario where we do not assume the biases of the Gospel authors, we can still reconstruct that as a Rabbi, Jesus was heavily influenced by the rhetorics of his day as the prevailing view that women were subservient to men can even be seen in his selection of the 12 disciples
@@chrissmith8198 yep The patriarchal system which was deeply embedded in the cultures of the ancient civilizations influenced the legislations such as those found in Leviticus This is the reason why in both Leviticus 18 & 20 the laws concerning sexual relations are more geared towards men and it's lacking prohibition towards lesbianism. Only in Leviticus 20:16 are women addressed with regards to their relation with animals
@@FaithInTheAgeOfLogic I hear you but my issue with that argument is that People argue that the prohibition of male intercourse with other men found in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 is not grounded in violating the natural complementarity God created between men and women. Instead, such actions “degraded” men by treating them in a way that only women should be treated. Some even cite Philo, Plutarch, and Clement of Alexandria as evidence that ancient people were more concerned about sex lowering a man’s status to the inferior one held by women then with sexual complementarity, an attitude they call “deeply misogynistic”. People also argue that if Leviticus were about sexual complementarity then why doesn’t it condemn female-female sexual relations? They conclude that since we no longer endorse such “patriarchy,” male intercourse can be seen as the loving exchange of equals and not as the degradation of a man to the status of a woman. But I believe these people have missed the point due to a modern sense of political correctness. For example, saying an adult is being childish does not mean children are bad, sub-human, or detestable. It doesn’t even mean children have less worth than adults. It just means adults are not children and so they shouldn’t act like children. Likewise, ancient writers calling men in the passive role of anal intercourse “effeminate” or “man-women” does not mean women are bad and therefore men shouldn’t be brought down to their level. It just means men aren’t women and so they should not be treated like women by being sexually penetrated. Regarding the lack of female-female sexual prohibitions in Leviticus 18, this does not prove the text is not about sexual complementarity. That’s because *all* the prohibitions in Leviticus 18 were written for a male audience. For example, even though women were not explicitly prohibited from engaging in incest, the fact that men were prohibited means the same rules applied to women. The same assumption can be made for male-male and female-female sexual relations.
I usually enjoy your Biblical insights, but this one I have to disagree. Yes the Bible speaks of going against a peoples natural desires as Sin, and it is. The Bible is talking only about a persons NATURAL affections, and desires, and deviating from them thru lust, drugs, alcohol or other means. It is NOT talking about Homosexuality, as being that is their natural affection and being created that way. Also, there are millions of people worldwide created/born homosexual, and to ask them to change is a Sin in itself. They have been condemned and told they have no chance of being Saved for centuries. The Bible is speaking of mostly straight people, like in Sodom and elsewhere that give in to their lust in place of their natural desires, which God says its an abomination to do so. The same with Gay people when they go against their natural desires and have sex with straight people, its wrong. I have NEVER heard of a true Gay person that CHOSE to be Gay. There has always been Gay people and we must stop condemning, and hating them for the way God CREATED them. Jesus will save any Gay person as well as any straight person that is willing to accept his Grace and forgiveness. I myself am straight and thru prayer and speaking to Gay people, we have to accept the truth, Salvation is offered to EVERYONE that God created and TRUE Christians must search for TRUTH, and NOT hate or condemn ANYONE for the way they were CREATED! Amen Ron.
There are people who believe the earth is a like a ball and others like a disk; one or the other is deceived. If people can be that deceived about things that can be observed, why could they not be deceived about their sexual orientation? The incidence of sexual orientation not following the physical form is not that far behind the incedence of fatherless families. What does it say to a child if the father does not consider it worth knowing or fighting for? Where will they look for acceptance from? What if the Father is exactly like their earthly father? Satan provoked Eve to sin by wounding her heart first. A wound is very effective for causing sin and sin deceives. "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth". "A large population is a king's glory". Where is the incentive for God to create non-reproducing people?
Thank you for proclaiming biblical truth in an uncompromising yet gracious manner. God bless this ministry 🙏
The Bible clearly and consistently declares that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10). The Bible teaches that Christians are to live for God, deny themselves, pick up their cross, and follow Him (Matthew 16:24), including with their sexuality.
The religious people rejected Jesus for not following Bible laws. You make the LGBT look like him.
@@rlhicks1 religious people give you a cross when you don't follow their rules. What cross are you carrying? In what way have you denied yourself it sounds like you're living a good life.
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He (dansaber, MichaelMcdonald-my2np) keeps changing his name.
If you engage him, he will say:
"I'm just here to discuss the literature with you. I'm not a religious person. According to the literature what is Christ like is what's rejected by religious people for not following their religious laws. I find no fault with the LGBT whatsoever. What have they done? What say you?"
Then no matter what you say, no matter what scriptures you provide, all he will do is spout a bunch of heretical nonsense to bring you down to his level.
Note:
Proverbs 26:4
Matthew 7:6
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If you engage him, he will say:
"I'm just here to discuss the literature with you. I'm not a religious person. According to the literature what is Christ like is what's rejected by religious people for not following their religious laws. I find no fault with the LGBT whatsoever. What have they done? What say you?"
Then no matter what you say, no matter what scriptures you provide, all he will do is spout a bunch of heretical nonsense to bring you down to his level.
Note:
Proverbs 26:4
Matthew 7:6
@@chrissmith8198 thank you for reposting my comment
The fact that God called this sin an abomination and that He also destroyed two cities and their citizens with Sulfur raining down from the heavens because of their homosexual behavior is another thought to ponder on. He clearly is not pleased with this choice of lifestyle.
To be fair, this wasn't the only thing Sodom and Gomorrah committed ... certainly their most famous offense, but not the only one. God had plenty of reasons to do what He did.
I think people also seem to forget that Christ was there and in total agreement with that destruction!🙏❤️.
@@MrGlynlewis that doesn't mean you can't be LGBT and christian. What is Christlike is what's rejected by religious people. Therefore they make LGBT christians.
*PUBLIC NOTICE!!!*
Please don't feed the troll.
He (dansaber, ddrse, MichaelMcdonald-my2np) keeps changing his name.
If you engage him, he will say:
"I'm just here to discuss the literature with you. I'm not a religious person. According to the literature what is Christ like is what's rejected by religious people for not following their religious laws. I find no fault with the LGBT whatsoever. What have they done? What say you?"
Then no matter what you say, no matter what scriptures you provide, all he will do is spout a bunch of heretical nonsense to bring you down to his level.
Note:
Proverbs 26:4
Matthew 7:6
*PUBLIC NOTICE!!!*
Please don't feed the troll.
He (MichaelMcdonald-my2np) keeps changing his name.
If you engage him, he will say:
"I'm just here to discuss the literature with you. I'm not a religious person. According to the literature what is Christ like is what's rejected by religious people for not following their religious laws. I find no fault with the LGBT whatsoever. What have they done? What say you?"
Then no matter what you say, no matter what scriptures you provide, all he will do is spout a bunch of heretical nonsense to bring you down to his level.
Note:
Proverbs 26:4
Matthew 7:6
I agree that homosexual ACTIVITY is a sin (not having a homosexual orientation) BUT I will always treat others with dignity, respect and love. We all have the same rights in our society no matter ones age, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, etc.
@@frosted1030 How is it possible to feel condemned by someone else unless you have condemned yourself?
Your initial statement does not match the tenth commandment. How would you feel about someone lusting after you if you knew about it? Nevertheless, disrespect will never win anyone over. If one cannot respect the person, then respect the Lord in whose image the person was originally made.
Well Jesus in the new testament said that lusting with ones eyes means you already committed adultery in youre heart, so you have to repent from those taughts.
God bless the ministry.
Amen. God does not change
Thank you pastor Nelson, such brilliantly good news! In Christ we are new creations and our identity is in Him. The old is gone, the new has come and we want to lives that glorify Him and honour the Father
Jesus says marriage is between man n woman
@@NickGagnon-u1v its u that makes absolutely zero sense
Stop projecting ~ Jesus clearly says marriage is between man n woman
@@NickGagnon-u1vhe loves them but He did adress the issue
@@NickGagnon-u1vJesus loves the sinner never their sins. Try again
The sad thing is there are people who say they are Christians in this comment section who won't agree with what God said.
Beautifully explained! Thank you!
Thank you so much, please do a video on how to pray for our brothers and sisters who are caught up in homosexuality💟
We can respect the dignity of homosexuals. But we canNOT support sin.
“Supporting sin” is sin itself
Romans 1:32
“Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
Mark 2:17
King James Version
17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
We share the Truth in love with them and leave the consequences to the Lord. (Ephesians 4:15)
If I see a person with their house on fire, I am going in there to help lead them out.
I am a backsliding Christian but starting to walk back in purity. I struggle with homosexuality (same sex attraction). I had boyfriends recently and have asked God to forgive me but I still feel guilty like I may go to Hell for turning against God. What does that mean or why is this happening to me?
I Cor 6:8-10;
Roms 1:18-32.
and on & on.
Don’t be intellectually disingenuous, sinners.
And such were some of you, including me.
God is first and last never change
@@NickGagnon-u1v "Jesus is the same, yesterday, today, and forever". Where do you read it differently?
@@NickGagnon-u1v Yep, He floods the earth in the old and says He will burn the earth in the new. Wow, what a big difference!
@@deanfry879 same him as first and last one God
@@deanfry879 yes see people who have sins have done wrong He will destroy them did the bad things
it is sin
God is perfect. Unlike us, we need to change our minds sometimes because we don't get it right the first time. God doesn't change his views on what and what is not sin. We do because we are imperfect creatures. Take care
@@frosted1030 It may be true people are born into bad situations but I think if you are truthful. most of the things that go wrong in our lives most times are from our own bad decisions and sometimes the bad decisions of others. Take care
@@frosted1030 You call us hilarious but are obviously not laughing. How is it working for you to tell God your creator how to act?
@@NickGagnon-u1v "Be perfect, therefore, just as your Heavenly Father is perfect" (Matthew 5:48). What have you got that says otherwise?
@@NickGagnon-u1vStand behind us Satan!
@@NickGagnon-u1vYou are what Bible calls a fool who's wise in his own eyes.
For some people, The “patriarchy argument” continues in their treatment of Romans 1:26-27, which is perhaps the most explicit condemnation of same-sex behavior in the Bible. Here Paul speaks of idolaters and how God, “ . . . gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.”
Some claim that the “unnatural” intercourse in this passage involved men taking the woman’s passive role in sex and women taking the man’s active role. It had everything to do with ancient patriarchy and nothing to do with either the anatomy of men and women or the body’s natural purpose. But this totally misses the point of the “exchange repetition” in Romans 1. Prior to Romans 1:26 Paul says that Creation shows there’s one true God and the idolaters have no excuse not to worship him (Romans 1:20). But their minds were “darkened” and they *exchanged* the proper end of their worship, or God, for an improper end, or idols (verses 21-23).
Next, their bodies were “defiled” and they *exchanged* the proper object of their belief, or “the truth about God,” for “a lie.” This could only happen because they suppressed knowledge of God that becomes obvious when we think about creation. Finally, their passions were “degraded” and women *exchanged* the natural object of their sexual desires, or men, for women and men did likewise. What all of these exchanges have in common is not failing to adhere to society’s moral norms, but failing to adhere to the natural order seen in creation itself - whether it’s worship of the creator or sexual relations with the natural partner. Paul even uses the Greek words for “male” and “female” instead of the Greek words for “men” and “women” to no doubt harken back to the creation account in Genesis 1 which describes how God made humans “male and female.”
The same thing the old testament says about all sexual sin.
Thank you for saying "His Standards of Holiness Did Not Change With The Coming Of Jesus, Because God Does Not Change." Truth be told, we all need a Savior. That's why Jesus came. Instead, of being quick to respond. Let us examine ourselves, before we are so quick to make judgements about others. Whats in your hidden closet that only you think you know! (food for thought), yet God sees all and knows all. For all those wondering. I am married to a man and yes, I am a woman.
I don't understand some of the jargon in this video.
@@Peter-ms5ub most of it I understand and agree with
1 Corinthians 6:9-10.
Jesus *did* address the issue of homosexuality.
Jesus addresses it in Matthew 5 & Matthew 19.
In these chapters, Jesus addresses the issue of marriage. Jesus rooted His understanding of marriage in the teaching of Genesis 2, which gives us marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation, illustration and sanctification.
He also made it very clear that what God has joined together, man cannot separate. In other words, God is the author of marriage, not man. Therefore, God is the one who defines marriage, not man.
Therefore, man does not have the right to introduce the concept of same sex marriage because:
1.) By definition it's not marriage, it's another thing.
2.) Because by definition, it goes against what has been created in Genesis 2.
Jesus did address the issue of homosexuality, because He addressed the issue of sexual impurity. He addressed the issue of fornication.
Jesus in the sermon on the mount talks about porneia. He talks about sexual impurity, which is a reference to the porneia code in leviticus 18 which clearly upholds the idea that homosexuality is sinful.
The Bigger issue with "Jesus never said anything about homosexuality" is that it's not just that Jesus is God but that Jesus is a member of the Godhead. It's not just that Jesus is divine, but that He is a member of the Trinity.
Jesus has existed eternally as God & Jesus has existed eternally in perfect union with the Father and The Holy Spirit.
Although He ook on a human nature in His incarnation, He did not come into existence in His incarnation.
You cannot divorce Jesus from the rest of the Bible.
Therefore, when you read in Leviticus 20:1 that "The Lord said to Moses" then that *is* Jesus speaking.
You also cannot separate Jesus from the Father and the Holy Spirit on the issue of homosexuality.
You cannot claim that Jesus never addressed the issue of homosexuality, unless you want to argue that Jesus has a different opinion on the matter than God the Father & God the Holy Spirit, which is hugely problematic because that would mean a breach in the Trinity and the whole universe would cave in on itself.
Lastly, The Bible is one story. Not many.
You can no more separate Jesus from Paul or Peter than you can separate Jesus from The Father or The Holy Spirit.
What do the apostles teach? The apostles are whose apostles? They are Christ's apostles.
So the teaching that they give us, is the authoritative teaching of the church from The Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
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Amen GQ 🙏🙏🙏✝️
1 Cor. 6:9 lists adulterers among those not inheriting the kingdom of God, however, we know King David went to heaven based on his going to his dead child who went there according to 2 Sam. 12:23 and King David was an adulterer having had many wives and concubines. Please explain this.
In a word? Repentance.
@@jessebryant9233I understand repentence. David was being warmed on his death bed by Abishag.
David became a new creation after submitting to God and repenting, no longer an adulterer! As were some of us.
@@Boomer7654 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ... 11!! ❤🩹🙏
@@tomw6271 And?
Some people's treatment of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 focuses on the Greek words malakoi and arsenokoitai (the latter of which also appears in plural form in 1 Timothy 1:10), whom Paul says will not inherit the Kingdom of God. People argue that these words do not refer to monogamous same-sex relationships or “homosexuals” as some modern translations render the words. Instead, malakoi is ambiguous and could just mean “weak” or “soft” while arsenokoitai refers to some kind of sexual exploitation or pederasty (sex with post-pubescent children). But if that’s the case then why doesn’t Paul just use the Greek word for pederasty (or paiderastes)?
Keep in mind that before he condemns the malakoi and arsenokoitai for their persistence in sin, Paul condemns idolaters and adulterers and then he condemns thieves and greedy people. Adultery and idolatry are often associated in the Bible and thievery and greed certainly go together. This makes it likely that arsenokoitai goes hand-in-hand with malakoi. The fact that arsenokoitai matches the Greek words in the Septuagint’s translation of Leviticus 20:13 is unmistakable. The word breaks down to “arseno” (or “male”) and koite (or “bed”) and literally means “man-bedder.”
Paul is saying that at one point some Corinthians practiced the active and passive roles in same-sex behavior but, as verse 11 says, “this is what some of you *used to be.* But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.” Just because certain people once engaged in same-sex behavior that is no barrier to them being sanctified by the grace of God. God loves them and us and wants everyone to understand their true identities not as being “gay” or “straight,” but as being sons and daughters of the Most High.
*Conclusion:*
Finally, when interpreting these passages it’s important to have the Bible’s whole context in mind and that’s why the affirmation of male-female sexual pairing in both Genesis 2 and Matthew 19 cannot be ignored. The Bible never portrays same-sex relationships in a positive light but it does portray opposite sex relationships in that way. People's answer to this is to say that the description of man and woman coming together as “one flesh” relates to a very close emotional union and not to anything intrinsic to men and women.
But this misses the point that when men and women have vaginal intercourse their body parts work together as an organically ordered whole to accomplish a purpose that cannot be achieved if the two were separate - the creation of new human life. The two retain their identities just as a patient who receives a heart transplant retains his unique DNA, but in both cases two sets of DNA become one in function. No other merging of body parts can accomplish this organically ordered “one flesh” union.
God’s Word is not open to personal interpretation in this matter. *Homosexuality is wrong; it always has been, and it always will be.*
There is a spirit attached to LGBTQI+ that is not of God.
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"Homosexuality as an *orientation* is not addressed in scripture"
Firstly.
The Bible tells us in Matthew 15:19 that it begins in our hearts and minds. Before we commit an act of sin, we will think about it. All sin starts in the mind.
Then terms: "vile affections", "burned in their lust", "working", "natural use", etc. are used in Romans 1:24-27 (KJV), & clearly involve both mental and physical homosexuality.
2 Corinthians 11: 3: But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, . . .
Matthew 19: 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
See also Matthew 24: 24. And then consider all the Prophets on Christian Network TV. Fake Ewes.
Wormwood = the Snake in the Cross that poisons 1/3rd of the waters -- the people.
"You KNEW damn well I was a snake, before you took me in." Matthew 6: 5-8. Revelation 3: 6-12. Matthew 16: 17-18.
Your point is???
eunuchs are not homosexual
Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. So is Heterosexuality. A sexual orientation is not a sin. The Bible should say Homosexual activity between people of the same sex is sinful.
This part of the Bible was added to emphasise sexual sin. The word "Homosexuality " was never a part of the original Bible.
That DOES NOT MEAN that God never addressed homosexuality. The word "trinity" is not in the Bible either, yet it teaches that God is a triune being.
Once upon a time I was conservative but I left that camp because most diehards treat Scriptures as if they override the cultural context yet they reflect and are heavily influenced by the events shaping history
If homosexuality is sin and unnatural, we wouldn't be waiting for someone named Paul in the common era to spell it out to the so-called Gentiles who were already used to it leave alone Jesus who barely mentioned it
Jesus did mention sexual immorality, which also includes homosexuality, when speaking about the things that come from a man's heart that defile the man. Why does He need to specifically say homosexuality for you to get the message? Also Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery in his heart. You can't reason that Jesus could say that whoever looks at someone of the same sex to lust after them commits a homosexual act in their heart? You would have to deny that Jesus is part of the Godhead to say that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality at all in the Bible.
@@VicGeorge2K6 there is a clear distinction between what is considered moral/immoral and what can be classified as orientation today
The view of Jesus is reflective of the second Temple rabbinic ethics and possibly the Stoic ethics which leveraged on the sexual conduct suited for their philosophical ideologies
Even in the scenario where we do not assume the biases of the Gospel authors, we can still reconstruct that as a Rabbi, Jesus was heavily influenced by the rhetorics of his day as the prevailing view that women were subservient to men can even be seen in his selection of the 12 disciples
@@FaithInTheAgeOfLogic dude it's sound like your hinting at the "patriarchy" argument ...
@@chrissmith8198 yep
The patriarchal system which was deeply embedded in the cultures of the ancient civilizations influenced the legislations such as those found in Leviticus
This is the reason why in both Leviticus 18 & 20 the laws concerning sexual relations are more geared towards men and it's lacking prohibition towards lesbianism. Only in Leviticus 20:16 are women addressed with regards to their relation with animals
@@FaithInTheAgeOfLogic I hear you but my issue with that argument is that People argue that the prohibition of male intercourse with other men found in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 is not grounded in violating the natural complementarity God created between men and women. Instead, such actions “degraded” men by treating them in a way that only women should be treated. Some even cite Philo, Plutarch, and Clement of Alexandria as evidence that ancient people were more concerned about sex lowering a man’s status to the inferior one held by women then with sexual complementarity, an attitude they call “deeply misogynistic”.
People also argue that if Leviticus were about sexual complementarity then why doesn’t it condemn female-female sexual relations? They conclude that since we no longer endorse such “patriarchy,” male intercourse can be seen as the loving exchange of equals and not as the degradation of a man to the status of a woman. But I believe these people have missed the point due to a modern sense of political correctness.
For example, saying an adult is being childish does not mean children are bad, sub-human, or detestable. It doesn’t even mean children have less worth than adults. It just means adults are not children and so they shouldn’t act like children. Likewise, ancient writers calling men in the passive role of anal intercourse “effeminate” or “man-women” does not mean women are bad and therefore men shouldn’t be brought down to their level. It just means men aren’t women and so they should not be treated like women by being sexually penetrated.
Regarding the lack of female-female sexual prohibitions in Leviticus 18, this does not prove the text is not about sexual complementarity. That’s because *all* the prohibitions in Leviticus 18 were written for a male audience. For example, even though women were not explicitly prohibited from engaging in incest, the fact that men were prohibited means the same rules applied to women. The same assumption can be made for male-male and female-female sexual relations.
I usually enjoy your Biblical insights, but this one I have to disagree. Yes the Bible speaks of going against a peoples natural desires as Sin, and it is. The Bible is talking only about a persons NATURAL affections, and desires, and deviating from them thru lust, drugs, alcohol or other means. It is NOT talking about Homosexuality, as being that is their natural affection and being created that way. Also, there are millions of people worldwide created/born homosexual, and to ask them to change is a Sin in itself. They have been condemned and told they have no chance of being Saved for centuries. The Bible is speaking of mostly straight people, like in Sodom and elsewhere that give in to their lust in place of their natural desires, which God says its an abomination to do so. The same with Gay people when they go against their natural desires and have sex with straight people, its wrong. I have NEVER heard of a true Gay person that CHOSE to be Gay. There has always been Gay people and we must stop condemning, and hating them for the way God CREATED them. Jesus will save any Gay person as well as any straight person that is willing to accept his Grace and forgiveness. I myself am straight and thru prayer and speaking to Gay people, we have to accept the truth, Salvation is offered to EVERYONE that God created and TRUE Christians must search for TRUTH, and NOT hate or condemn ANYONE for the way they were CREATED! Amen Ron.
There are people who believe the earth is a like a ball and others like a disk; one or the other is deceived. If people can be that deceived about things that can be observed, why could they not be deceived about their sexual orientation? The incidence of sexual orientation not following the physical form is not that far behind the incedence of fatherless families. What does it say to a child if the father does not consider it worth knowing or fighting for? Where will they look for acceptance from? What if the Father is exactly like their earthly father? Satan provoked Eve to sin by wounding her heart first. A wound is very effective for causing sin and sin deceives.
"Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth". "A large population is a king's glory". Where is the incentive for God to create non-reproducing people?