I like watching your videos and you explain everything well and break it down into pieces and parts and show how to do everything safely and efficiently I appreciate you
Thanks! Finally the myth is debunked - we can with a lot of caution change calibers and barrell lengths whitout leaving the gun at a certified fx dealer. This is a sales pitch for fx and good news for the end user. As always a very informative and well done hands on video. Cheers from fx country 😊👍👌🔫🇸🇪
@@Davidtheinfidel early official fx supoirted videos stated this clearly, comp gun- barrel change only done by cerified fx dealer. the specific video im regering to with Jon fx usa and Hein Frohmann , i can not find anymore on the fx airgun youtube channel.this was the first official fx policy for the panthera when it was released in december 22, they have now obviously given the instructions to partners that this CAN be done but with caution so now they even have a fx masterclass video released how to do it.watched every video on the panthera so fars o i know this. still eaiting for my 30 cal panthera- im in sweden which is not their priority 1 market.
I did not hear anything about changing the caliber. Only changing the barrel length. Did I misunderstand the video? Can the caliber actually be changed? It seems that a caliber change would also require a different probe size. Love to hear what others say.
Great video, Mathias! I just had to rip mine all apart to replace the V1 valve with the V2 style valve. Since I was only removing my barrel/plenum to access the valve, I simple loosened the screws on each side of the block that hold the barrel and I unscrewed the plenum and barrel as one piece. Thanks for showing what was under the front shroud, I didn't open that up but it's good to know everything about this rifle.
Hi buddy , thx for the nice comment 👊 as by coincidence I just received a new valve as I bend mine 🫣 and the new regulator piston aswel . Will make a video about that soon 😉
Thank you for the video... I think you have spens alot of money and time for us... Appreciate it... And the funny thing is that you're video make me buy the m3.. It is a great gun.. Thank you
You’re welcome 👊 indeed it can be very costly indeed sometimes and TH-cam doesn’t like the subject so not much help there . Luckily I have some support left and right to make these videos possible 👌
Beautiful setup. I always prefer compact setups. I'm considering purchasing this rifle, the one that shoots pellets because I'm not into slugs. I own the Dream Line compact with the folding stock and it is by far my most used air rifle.. Thank you as always for the video.
@@That_Ultra_GuyNo link as the Dealers have to order it specifically for you from factory 🤔 only way to get it . It’s normal the dealers don’t have everything in stock as these are specific items and many configurations are possible
Question I saw two brass plugs maybe that top one is for a sir tank not a bottle but one like on a avenger you could run like two off a like the dragon claw just a thought or they might have plans for something like that with this block???
Wow. You make it look easy. Can you tell me what ammo you would use it the short version. Also what reg pressure would you set it to in order to have efficient use of air in a shot configuration Thanks 🍀💪🇮🇪
There are no specific kits available as there are so many options possible. So that’s why I made the video to mix and match what you need . Every FX dealer can order these parts
Hi man. How are you . Can I use bottle adapter of fx impact MKII to convert my fx panthera to hunter ? Fx panthera accept the bottle of fx impact m3 or bottle of fx impact mkll???
My compact rail came with two tiny black bearings or balls. Any idea what they are for ? Also i see FX has a smaller 170 cc cylinder, would that fit under the front rail?
There are no balls needed for the compact rail as far as I know 🤔 Regarding the 170cc bottle take a look at this video I made around minute 16:50 . Just remember the 170cc bottle is only allowed to be filled to 230bar th-cam.com/video/dJPrTt4SfDY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BYMMkgqQSddQZrfI
Anyone know where the liner o ring is positioned on the hunter. Or does it even matter ? Mine only has one. Also the spacer with the large o-ring on the end .. thats not needed ? Noticed after a few thousand shots the shroud gets coated inside with lead dust. Removing the shroud to clean with the spacer is a pain. Be nice to remove it all together.
The oring on the liner doesn’t really has a dedicated spot , but I would put it in the middle . Regarding the spaces on the barrel nut , it does serve a purpose to make sure the barrel stays centered so you don’t get any clippings. Now on the compact hunters short barrel it’s not really a must as there won’t be much flex . On the longer 700mm barrels I do see it useful especially if you run a heavy moderator.
Yes it will fit the Dynamic aswel , it’s the same rifle . You need matching parts as the plenum sized on different barrels lengths are different in combination with the shroud etc . They aren’t regular available yet but you should be able to order it true your FX dealer
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Great video , my question is if you had the panthers 700 in .22 can you just get the compact hunter conversion in .177 and still use the same block/probe as I can only find 22/25 and 30cal probes as extras????
That’s a difficult choice 😉 I think it’s more a personal opinion. The only advantage is that the impact has more aftermarket parts and one more tuning option ( which can also complicate stuff 😉 ) on the other side the Panthera can make more power
What’s the shortest barrel for Fx dynamic or pantera. I’ve been checking out the Leishy 2 250mm. Wanting something short for my son. I have the impact sniper.thanks for great content
Might be a tough question to answer but I have a 600 mm 22 caliber FX panthera. In terms of slugs the recommended grain is 30 grain to 33 grain with a 600 mm barrel. You can shoot 40 grain slugs with a 700 mm Barrel but unfortunately it's too long for me. If I switched to 25 caliber liner with my 600 Barrel, would the 600 mm 25 caliber 40 grain slug have more energy/FPE than a 700 mm barrel 22 caliber 40 grains slug at all distances?
I would opt for a 600mm 22cal with 33-34 gr slugs @1005fps . I usually shoot all my competitions with a 700mm at those settings but it will work out of a 600mm aswel . The 25cal in slugs is notoriously difficult to tune and get right . 22 is way easier. The 40gr in 22 is possible but it puts to much stress on the system and doesn’t feel smooth to shoot . Remaining energy is something you need to calculate as it is velocity dependent
. Very complicated stuff. Once you think you understand barrel lengths and slug grains you realize you don't understand it all. Does the 25 and 30 caliber in all Barrel sizes make it more difficult to tune or just 600 mm? Why is that? But if you're a hunter and you want to shoot a larger game you would need to shoot a 25 caliber to a 30 caliber slug correct?
Nice video. If you put something on your table that is a bit thicker it might reduce the 'drumming' sound. Even a piece of cardboard might help a bit. I do not own an air-gun but am considering buying one. Since there are no shops nearby I depend on sites like yours a great deal and appreciate all your information. In that vein, could you explain the difference between the 'Impact' and the 'Panthera' and why you would consider one over the other? Anybody is welcome to help me understand the differences between the units. Thanks in advance.😎
Hi , thx for the tip 👌 I might put a piece of carpet underneath 😉 In order to answer your question what is the difference between a Impact and a Panthera , I would like to ask you if you have any experience with airguns and if this will be you very first one ?
Thank you very much for your videos, they are the best I have seen for your detailed explanations. I have some questions that I'm sure you can answer with your knowledge: -Regarding your video, is there a difference in shooting power between an original Panthera Hunter and the Panthera conversion you show in the video from 700mm to 300mm? Because I have the doubt of buying a Panthera Dynamic 600mm and move the bottle forward with the adapter and a folding stock; or buy a Panthera Hunter and buy a 600mm barrel. -Does the 300mm Panthera Hunter come with the same probe and slug hammer as the 600mm Panthera Dynamic, or do I have to change the probe and hammer of the Hunter to get the same power? Thank you very much Greetings from Spain
Hi , thx for the support! In theory there is no difference in internals buying a hunter or a 600-700 mm but the 300mm barrel have a normal liner inside that shoots best pellets or very light slugs . The longer 600-700 barrels come with a heavy liner to shoot slugs . The probe is exactly the same no difference between the 300 and the rest . It’s up to you to decide what you are going to use it for . You can swap the barrels as you have seen in the video but I wouldn’t advise it to do it every other weekend 😉
@@Airbuks Thank you very much for your response and the attention you give to those of us who follow you. It is a pleasure. What I am looking for is an FX PCP to shoot heavy slugs at long distance but using a manageable gun that weighs little. Hence the above question and doubt: 1) Buy a FX Panthera Dynamic 600mm and change the stock for a folding one (folding AR Stock), buy an adapter to put the bottle in front as you show in a video. 2) Buy a FX Hunter and change the barrel for a 600mm. What would you do to assemble that gun small and handy but with power for big slugs at 100m-150m? And the last question: to hunt rabbits, doves.... (although in my country I could not because it is not allowed) would you use 5.5 (0.22) or 6.35 (0.25) caliber with the above assembled gun? Thank you very much again. I will use your answer for the master purchase.
@@JC-OPT Hi , so a compact slug shooter for long range. The first thing is that the longer the barrel the easier it is to get slugs shooting wel at long ranges . This for 2 reasons. 1. The longer the barrel the lower you can keep the regulator pressure and the more relaxed your gun will shoot . Helping in accuracy. 2. The lower the regulator pressure the more shots you can get . Now 25cal is a good hunting caliber 👍if you want to shoot .25 heavy slugs (40gr @960) you can’t go with a 300 as it’s a pellet liner and in my opinion will only be oke up to 75m anyway. Specially with hunting when you need ethical kills . You might get away with a 500mm as in range but this one also comes standard with a pellets / light slug liner . So out of the box only the 600-700 have a heavy slug liner, but even with a 600mm you have a pretty long setup 🤔 So for me you have 3 options : 1. Buy a 500mm version with a extra heavy liner to shoot slugs heavier the 34gr ( in my opinion good to 100m ) 2. Just buy the 600mm which is ready to shoot heavy slugs right out of the box . 3. Consider buying a bull pup style like the impact that even with the longer barrel is shorter Dan the Dynamic with the same barrel due to its bull pup design . PS : my favorite combo will be a Panthera 500mm with heavy liner and mount a extra 300cc bottle at the front . No Ar15 folding stock but the fixed end from a Panthera with the bottle . This way you have 600cc of air to shoot slugs in a medium size package. It’s a very difficult choice I know 🥴
Would you please produce a Panthera stripdown video as I have always followed your vids on M3 strip down. I would like to change the valve pin and add a tungsten hammer to my Panthera - thanks
I might do that soon but have some other videos to make first 😉 but one tip , do not install the tungsten hammer in the Panthera unless you have a very good or specific reason for it . What caliber and weight projectile you want to shoot
@@Airbuks thanks for the tip, I am also installing an up rated valve pin, needed to compliment the tungsten hammer, please keep producing your excellent vids, I learnt a lot about the M3 from your videos
Love your vids mate their fantastic to watch thanks. Have a question I intend to put the small 300cc bottle on the back of my panthera and a 480cc on the front but not sure what pressure to fill the gun at??? hope you can help. Brian
@@brianfurth2839 you need to have both bottles rated to 300bar in order to fill that high . They are linked and feed the regulator together with air , so if you would fill one to 300bar the other one fills to that aswel
Anyone know the answer to? are saying that the FX Pantera has a low shot count but I just looked at the FX website and the 22 caliber has a shot count of about 80 shots using 600 mm barrel 22 gr hybrid slug at 900 fps. Yes this is lower than the FX impact but it's not horrible. I tend to shoot 22 caliber 32, 34, 36 grain slugs. Let's say I'm shooting 34 grain slugs 22 caliber what do you think the shot count would be for fill with the standard bottle? If it's too low and I added an additional 300cc bottle in the middle of the gun what would you estimate the shot count would be then? Thank you
Where can I get the barrel conversion kit? How much is it? Is it safe/recomended to change the barrel kit multiple times (back and forth between lenghts)? Id like the 700 mm barrel for competition and sometimes the 300 mm for backpacking hunting
You should be able to ask your local FX dealer to order it , don’t have a part number. Changing the barrel frequently isn’t a issue as long as you do it carefully. With the impact the barrel doesn’t have any sealing parts unlike the Panthera . So if you take care when replacing the barrel and keep the orings in good condition you will be fine 👍
Can I remove the barricade block while pressurized. I think it’s Cosmeticly ugly. I have the arca rail on the 600 dynamic, what’s the purpose of the barricade stop block? I want to delete it it’s ugly, can I?
Yes you can remove it while under pressure. The barricade stop is as the word says . The block is there as a stop /barrier to push into a barricade or something when shooting PRS stages
Where did you get your barrel/insert? I contacted my local FX dealer to make an inquiry to convert my 25cal Panthera to a 22 cal and they stated there are no barrel conversion kits.
I am in the process of trading my maverick .30 for this in .30 with the ar style folding stock and 480 cc bottle will all this work the same on the .30 model
You forgot one screw on that barricade at the end of the assembly, the one that is horizontal. It's very important since it is what makes the barricade acts as a reinforcement by securing the guard rail to the body of the panthera.
Love your spirit buddy! Good work! I have a question about the sunshade extanded 4" of your Element scope. Where can i find it please?? Thanks in front!❤
The sunshades come included with the scopes and I don’t think they are available separately , if you want a extra one try mailing element optics to ask
Very well done! The only omission I see is that the short barrel cuts the Velocity/Power to less than half of the 700. I shoot the H&N 40gr slugs at 980fps, and this would reduce the power level to a BB gun.
I can easily shoot 18gr pellets at 890 fps with 125bar on the regulator, so it has more then power enough. It’s also never meant to be a slug shooter with this 300mm barrel . Mostly for pesting with pellets
I have the Leshiy 2 with 350mm barrel in .30 and it shoots the ZAN 49 grainers at 900 fps with ease. Yes a shorter barrel decreases the speed, but with the shorter plenum you can up the reg pressure so you get max acceleration via a short dump of the plenum.
@@Airbuks Hi my friend, we had contact via e-mail a few months ago (John). I have one L2 with 350 mm barrel and two 0.2 jets. Raptor reg set at 170 bar. My other L2 .30 has the FX 600mm barrel, two 0.1 jets, raptor set to 195 bar (pushing it hard hahaha) It shoots ZAN 49 grain at 1020 fps. I'm debating with Matias and francisco about ditching the plenum and external reg and fit the Edgun HP POWER PLENUM for the leshiy 2 with the internal regulator. I think it can shoot faster with less regulator pressure. I have the feeling that this larger plenum will fit the 600mm barrel more because it can dump air longer before the slug leaves the barrel yet with 170 bar pressure (I hope) The point is that when it fails, I lost about 400 Euros . . . I hope we can figure something out.
Airbuks.... Your information is very good, here is the drama behind FX and the Pantera dynamic King block. The different barrels are non-existent or the barrel kids are non-existent. Are you receiving these barrel because you have a channel for it or are barrel kids really available for purchase?
Your videos are the very best and a MUST for an owner of an FX to watch and save.
Thanks 🙏
I like watching your videos and you explain everything well and break it down into pieces and parts and show how to do everything safely and efficiently I appreciate you
Thanks 🙏
Thanks! Finally the myth is debunked - we can with a lot of caution change calibers and barrell lengths whitout leaving the gun at a certified fx dealer. This is a sales pitch for fx and good news for the end user. As always a very informative and well done hands on video. Cheers from fx country 😊👍👌🔫🇸🇪
Never heard anyone say a dealer must do it
Thx mate 👊 indeed in the beginning it was mentioned only a licensed dealer could do the conversion but if you know what you do it’s not a big deal
@@Davidtheinfidel early official fx supoirted videos stated this clearly, comp gun- barrel change only done by cerified fx dealer. the specific video im regering to with Jon fx usa and Hein Frohmann , i can not find anymore on the fx airgun youtube channel.this was the first official fx policy for the panthera when it was released in december 22, they have now obviously given the instructions to partners that this CAN be done but with caution so now they even have a fx masterclass video released how to do it.watched every video on the panthera so fars o i know this. still eaiting for my 30 cal panthera- im in sweden which is not their priority 1 market.
I did not hear anything about changing the caliber. Only changing the barrel length. Did I misunderstand the video? Can the caliber actually be changed? It seems that a caliber change would also require a different probe size. Love to hear what others say.
@@johnsullivan9320 yes you are correct! Caliber change is possible by replacing the probe . I just keep mine in 22cal so there was no need to do it
Thanks for the "doit yourself" video. Best wishes from Switzerland 🇨🇭 René
Thx for the support 👍
You did an excellent job with this conversion.
Thanks 🙏
Clear concise video yet again. Thanks for your professional approach to these rifles.
Thx for the support 👊
Great video, Mathias! I just had to rip mine all apart to replace the V1 valve with the V2 style valve. Since I was only removing my barrel/plenum to access the valve, I simple loosened the screws on each side of the block that hold the barrel and I unscrewed the plenum and barrel as one piece. Thanks for showing what was under the front shroud, I didn't open that up but it's good to know everything about this rifle.
Hi buddy , thx for the nice comment 👊 as by coincidence I just received a new valve as I bend mine 🫣 and the new regulator piston aswel .
Will make a video about that soon 😉
Your instruction was absolutely perfect. Very easy to understand and follow first class. Thank you very much.
I do enjoy watching all your vids - well done sir!
Thx for the support 👊
Thank you for the video... I think you have spens alot of money and time for us... Appreciate it...
And the funny thing is that you're video make me buy the m3.. It is a great gun.. Thank you
You’re welcome 👊 indeed it can be very costly indeed sometimes and TH-cam doesn’t like the subject so not much help there . Luckily I have some support left and right to make these videos possible 👌
This is a great step-by-step process for barrel conversion.
Nice conversion! You could walk all day with that
Yes it’s pretty compact and carry’s easy
❤ Always enjoy your video instructions.
Thx 👊
That looks awesome, I love the looks of the shorter version.
Yeah , I have a soft spot for compact aswel 👊
Very thorough & to the point. Great videos
Great instructions as always. Nice job.
Thx 👊
when it comes to saying & doing it you are man, thank you,
Thx mate , I appreciate it 👊!
Thx mate , I appreciate it 👊!
and here's another comment from the other me 👍
Awesome tutorial, thanks for sharing.
Thx mate, this way I also can see who watches the videos till the end 😉👍
Quality demonstration of the conversion process👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎😎
Thx 👊
Excellent tutorial video as always 👍🏻
Thx 👊
Excellent tutorial video. Greeting from California
Likewise 👊
Awesome video I learned a lot about the panthera hunter compact.
Thx 👊
Great video! Thanks for a educational lesson.
Thx 👊
Beautiful setup. I always prefer compact setups. I'm considering purchasing this rifle, the one that shoots pellets because I'm not into slugs. I own the Dream Line compact with the folding stock and it is by far my most used air rifle.. Thank you as always for the video.
I also have a soft spot for compact rifles 👌
Where can i get a 300mm barrel kit from
You can order it true any local FX Dealer
@@Airbuks haven't been able to... any links to purchase online ?
@@That_Ultra_GuyNo link as the Dealers have to order it specifically for you from factory 🤔 only way to get it . It’s normal the dealers don’t have everything in stock as these are specific items and many configurations are possible
Keep up the good work my friend!!
Thx 👊
One more question is that barrel shroud a few inches longer than the barrel it just looks a lot longer in the video thanks again
Yes it’s not a few inches but I think just one ☝️
Great video as always
Nice video. Simple and clear
Thanks 🙏
Question I saw two brass plugs maybe that top one is for a sir tank not a bottle but one like on a avenger you could run like two off a like the dragon claw just a thought or they might have plans for something like that with this block???
It’s a very versatile system leaving room for whatever 😉
Wow. You make it look easy.
Can you tell me what ammo you would use it the short version.
Also what reg pressure would you set it to in order to have efficient use of air in a shot configuration
Thanks 🍀💪🇮🇪
It’s almost as easy as I show 😉
I am shooting 18gr pellets with the reg on 125bar macro 13 and micro on 2,5
@@Airbuks thanks very much for the reply.
Keep up the good work 💪🍀🇮🇪
Question I know that you gave us the part numbers but where do we find the caliber change kits and different barrel sizes tu Del
There are no specific kits available as there are so many options possible. So that’s why I made the video to mix and match what you need . Every FX dealer can order these parts
That was awesome to know thank you a lot. That helps out a lot now I don't have to buy both. I can just buy the Pantera and the parts to convert.
I'd like to buy a Panthera Hunter 25 with larger plenum and convert to 22 cal. Unfortunately, UAG said caliber change kits are not available.
Yes they are , check one of my latest videos on the FX TH-cam channel
Was wondering where we could get the kits at.
You should be able to order it from your local FX dealer , they can order it from factory
Sweet
Barrel Length - great video
300mm 😉
Here's a comment. Awesome tutorial 👍
Thx 🙏
thanks you for your time and efforts.
Your welcome
How to get covers off gauges and change gauges for digital?
Hi man.
How are you .
Can I use bottle adapter of fx impact MKII to convert my fx panthera to hunter ?
Fx panthera accept the bottle of fx impact m3 or bottle of fx impact mkll???
No , the adapter is specific for the front of the Panthera, threads are different
Which bipod is that and does it attach directly to the arca rail. Where in the EU can I get it. Thank you for a great video
That’s a MDT bipod I picked up at Utah airguns when I was at RMAC
My compact rail came with two tiny black bearings or balls. Any idea what they are for ?
Also i see FX has a smaller 170 cc cylinder, would that fit under the front rail?
There are no balls needed for the compact rail as far as I know 🤔
Regarding the 170cc bottle take a look at this video I made around minute 16:50 . Just remember the 170cc bottle is only allowed to be filled to 230bar
th-cam.com/video/dJPrTt4SfDY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BYMMkgqQSddQZrfI
Good job. Very informative.
Thx 👊
Do you have the part number for the eagle vision scope mounts
Anyone know where the liner o ring is positioned on the hunter. Or does it even matter ? Mine only has one.
Also the spacer with the large o-ring on the end .. thats not needed ? Noticed after a few thousand shots the shroud gets coated inside with lead dust. Removing the shroud to clean with the spacer is a pain. Be nice to remove it all together.
The oring on the liner doesn’t really has a dedicated spot , but I would put it in the middle . Regarding the spaces on the barrel nut , it does serve a purpose to make sure the barrel stays centered so you don’t get any clippings. Now on the compact hunters short barrel it’s not really a must as there won’t be much flex . On the longer 700mm barrels I do see it useful especially if you run a heavy moderator.
Will this work for the 600 dynamic?
22. So I would need barrel kit, plenum? And arca rail? Part numbers please?
Yes it will fit the Dynamic aswel , it’s the same rifle . You need matching parts as the plenum sized on different barrels lengths are different in combination with the shroud etc .
They aren’t regular available yet but you should be able to order it true your FX dealer
Where can I buy complete barrel kits? I want to change up to 800mm and 7.62
There is no 800mm for the dynamic block max 700mm . You can order the barrel kits from your local FX dealer
Algoritmebooster voor jou vriend:) ik ben geabonneerd maar kom nu pas je video tegen, ik dacht net hetzelfde, TH-cam steekt je stokken in de wielen😛 keep it up👊🏻
Bedankt voor de support makker 👊
Excellent video. Thank you!
Thx
Thanks for sharing, clear presentation
Thx
Great video , my question is if you had the panthers 700 in .22 can you just get the compact hunter conversion in .177 and still use the same block/probe as I can only find 22/25 and 30cal probes as extras????
You can convert it from caliber if you have all the parts . Barrel / liner / probe etc . The 22 cal probe won’t work fro the 177 😉
Can you guys make a video on how to install the foldable stock?
I don’t have a folding adapter 🤔 and in the compact version I am afraid it will make it illegal in my country
Interesting to see the differences from my Wildcat. Wondering/hoping for a bullpup version, but the the decision on caliber :)
Torn between the 2 rifles panthera compact hunter or m3 impact compact?
That’s a difficult choice 😉 I think it’s more a personal opinion. The only advantage is that the impact has more aftermarket parts and one more tuning option ( which can also complicate stuff 😉 ) on the other side the Panthera can make more power
Great video! Thank you!
Thx 👊
Can I change calibers on my Compact Hunter? Now it.22 and I also want .177
What’s the shortest barrel for Fx dynamic or pantera. I’ve been checking out the Leishy 2 250mm. Wanting something short for my son. I have the impact sniper.thanks for great content
The shortest will be a 177/22 cal with a 300mm barrel
Might be a tough question to answer but I have a 600 mm 22 caliber FX panthera. In terms of slugs the recommended grain is 30 grain to 33 grain with a 600 mm barrel. You can shoot 40 grain slugs with a 700 mm Barrel but unfortunately it's too long for me.
If I switched to 25 caliber liner with my 600 Barrel, would the 600 mm 25 caliber 40 grain slug have more energy/FPE than a 700 mm barrel 22 caliber 40 grains slug at all distances?
I would opt for a 600mm 22cal with 33-34 gr slugs @1005fps . I usually shoot all my competitions with a 700mm at those settings but it will work out of a 600mm aswel . The 25cal in slugs is notoriously difficult to tune and get right . 22 is way easier.
The 40gr in 22 is possible but it puts to much stress on the system and doesn’t feel smooth to shoot . Remaining energy is something you need to calculate as it is velocity dependent
. Very complicated stuff. Once you think you understand barrel lengths and slug grains you realize you don't understand it all. Does the 25 and 30 caliber in all Barrel sizes make it more difficult to tune or just 600 mm? Why is that? But if you're a hunter and you want to shoot a larger game you would need to shoot a 25 caliber to a 30 caliber slug correct?
@Airbuks okay I thought about it I think I'll experiment with the 33 grain and 34 grain as opposed to buying a new 25 Cal liner.
nice video mate 🫶🏻
where we can find shroud and plenum if we want to convert our panthera to bigger or smaller length?
Can you shoot slugs with that barrel? Seems like the 500mm and smaller are only pellet shooters.
Yes the liner inside is a pellet liner but you should be able to shoot some lite slugs like 21gr in 22cal
Can you please do one on just caliber change? You may excellent, perfect videos.
Nice video. If you put something on your table that is a bit thicker it might reduce
the 'drumming' sound. Even a piece of cardboard might help a bit.
I do not own an air-gun but am considering buying one. Since there are no shops
nearby I depend on sites like yours a great deal and appreciate all your information.
In that vein, could you explain the difference between the 'Impact' and the 'Panthera' and
why you would consider one over the other?
Anybody is welcome to help me understand the differences between the units. Thanks
in advance.😎
Hi , thx for the tip 👌 I might put a piece of carpet underneath 😉
In order to answer your question what is the difference between a Impact and a Panthera , I would like to ask you if you have any experience with airguns and if this will be you very first one ?
Can you please tell me how much these costs. Please with the two bottles and the short barrel two
This you have to check with your local FX dealer
Nice tutorial my friend.
Thx buddy 👊
Thank you very much for your videos, they are the best I have seen for your detailed explanations. I have some questions that I'm sure you can answer with your knowledge:
-Regarding your video, is there a difference in shooting power between an original Panthera Hunter and the Panthera conversion you show in the video from 700mm to 300mm? Because I have the doubt of buying a Panthera Dynamic 600mm and move the bottle forward with the adapter and a folding stock; or buy a Panthera Hunter and buy a 600mm barrel.
-Does the 300mm Panthera Hunter come with the same probe and slug hammer as the 600mm Panthera Dynamic, or do I have to change the probe and hammer of the Hunter to get the same power?
Thank you very much
Greetings from Spain
Hi , thx for the support! In theory there is no difference in internals buying a hunter or a 600-700 mm but the 300mm barrel have a normal liner inside that shoots best pellets or very light slugs . The longer 600-700 barrels come with a heavy liner to shoot slugs . The probe is exactly the same no difference between the 300 and the rest .
It’s up to you to decide what you are going to use it for . You can swap the barrels as you have seen in the video but I wouldn’t advise it to do it every other weekend 😉
@@Airbuks Thank you very much for your response and the attention you give to those of us who follow you. It is a pleasure.
What I am looking for is an FX PCP to shoot heavy slugs at long distance but using a manageable gun that weighs little. Hence the above question and doubt:
1) Buy a FX Panthera Dynamic 600mm and change the stock for a folding one (folding AR Stock), buy an adapter to put the bottle in front as you show in a video.
2) Buy a FX Hunter and change the barrel for a 600mm.
What would you do to assemble that gun small and handy but with power for big slugs at 100m-150m?
And the last question: to hunt rabbits, doves.... (although in my country I could not because it is not allowed) would you use 5.5 (0.22) or 6.35 (0.25) caliber with the above assembled gun?
Thank you very much again. I will use your answer for the master purchase.
@@JC-OPT Hi , so a compact slug shooter for long range.
The first thing is that the longer the barrel the easier it is to get slugs shooting wel at long ranges . This for 2 reasons.
1. The longer the barrel the lower you can keep the regulator pressure and the more relaxed your gun will shoot . Helping in accuracy.
2. The lower the regulator pressure the more shots you can get .
Now 25cal is a good hunting caliber 👍if you want to shoot .25 heavy slugs (40gr @960) you can’t go with a 300 as it’s a pellet liner and in my opinion will only be oke up to 75m anyway. Specially with hunting when you need ethical kills .
You might get away with a 500mm as in range but this one also comes standard with a pellets / light slug liner .
So out of the box only the 600-700 have a heavy slug liner, but even with a 600mm you have a pretty long setup 🤔
So for me you have 3 options :
1. Buy a 500mm version with a extra heavy liner to shoot slugs heavier the 34gr ( in my opinion good to 100m )
2. Just buy the 600mm which is ready to shoot heavy slugs right out of the box .
3. Consider buying a bull pup style like the impact that even with the longer barrel is shorter Dan the Dynamic with the same barrel due to its bull pup design .
PS : my favorite combo will be a Panthera 500mm with heavy liner and mount a extra 300cc bottle at the front . No Ar15 folding stock but the fixed end from a Panthera with the bottle . This way you have 600cc of air to shoot slugs in a medium size package.
It’s a very difficult choice I know 🥴
Would you please produce a Panthera stripdown video as I have always followed your vids on M3 strip down. I would like to change the valve pin and add a tungsten hammer to my Panthera - thanks
I might do that soon but have some other videos to make first 😉 but one tip , do not install the tungsten hammer in the Panthera unless you have a very good or specific reason for it . What caliber and weight projectile you want to shoot
@@Airbuks thanks for the tip, I am also installing an up rated valve pin, needed to compliment the tungsten hammer, please keep producing your excellent vids, I learnt a lot about the M3 from your videos
25 cal 60 grain slugs
I love you video bro!
Thanks
Your video absolutely help. And i have a question, can my fx panthera change the barrel from cal 177 to cal 0.25?
Thx , yes you can swap calibers aswel . But then you need to change the probe also 😉
@@Airbuks Thx 👍
Love your vids mate their fantastic to watch thanks. Have a question I intend to put the small 300cc bottle on the back of my panthera and a 480cc on the front but not sure what pressure to fill the gun at??? hope you can help. Brian
Hi Brain , it depends on the bottles you use but generally the max fill pressure is 250 bar unless you have bottles rated for 300bar
I have a 300bar fill pressure bottle on the front and a small bottle on the back that comes with the Panthera rifle.
Thank you.@@Airbuks
@@brianfurth2839 So then your max fill pressure is 250 bar because of the small original bottle at the back
ok thanks, waste of time getting big bottle then?@@Airbuks
@@brianfurth2839 you need to have both bottles rated to 300bar in order to fill that high . They are linked and feed the regulator together with air , so if you would fill one to 300bar the other one fills to that aswel
Anyone know the answer to? are saying that the FX Pantera has a low shot count but I just looked at the FX website and the 22 caliber has a shot count of about 80 shots using 600 mm barrel 22 gr hybrid slug at 900 fps.
Yes this is lower than the FX impact but it's not horrible. I tend to shoot 22 caliber 32, 34, 36 grain slugs. Let's say I'm shooting 34 grain slugs 22 caliber what do you think the shot count would be for fill with the standard bottle? If it's too low and I added an additional 300cc bottle in the middle of the gun what would you estimate the shot count would be then?
Thank you
Interesting🤓
Thanks for sharing mate 🙂
Thx buddy 👊
who do I order the barrels from? I got the dynamic express 600 because all the hunter compacts were sold out
How is the trigger on this small Panthera?
Can you compare it with the Dreamline/Crown?
Thanks in advance.
Greetings Lari.
The trigger is great just like any Fx trigger that doesn’t use the linkage like the Wildcat and Maverick although these are also still oke
where did you get your parts for the conversion?
You can order them from your FX dealer 😉 I have made a video for the FX TH-cam channel showing all the parts and corresponding part numbers 🤙
Where can you buy the conversion kits because I’ve been looking online cannot find them
They will be available soon I think , but you might want to ask your local FX dealer to get you one
Where can I get the barrel conversion kit? How much is it?
Is it safe/recomended to change the barrel kit multiple times (back and forth between lenghts)?
Id like the 700 mm barrel for competition and sometimes the 300 mm for backpacking hunting
You should be able to ask your local FX dealer to order it , don’t have a part number.
Changing the barrel frequently isn’t a issue as long as you do it carefully. With the impact the barrel doesn’t have any sealing parts unlike the Panthera .
So if you take care when replacing the barrel and keep the orings in good condition you will be fine 👍
Can I remove the barricade block while pressurized. I think it’s Cosmeticly ugly. I have the arca rail on the 600 dynamic, what’s the purpose of the barricade stop block? I want to delete it it’s ugly, can I?
Yes you can remove it while under pressure. The barricade stop is as the word says . The block is there as a stop /barrier to push into a barricade or something when shooting PRS stages
My plenum is not draining when I turn it counter clockwise
Thanks for the work, do you know if there is any difference in the blocks of the Pantera and the Dynamic, if so, which ones they are, thanks
No difference, exactly the same block 👍
Can you make a video with instolding the folding adaptor?
If I can get my hands on one I will
excellent video, thanks !
Thx 👊
Wait how do you get the Barrel kit I thought you had to send it in?
No , I have my ways to get parts 😉
Are there FX Pantera barrel kits available at this time?
Nice video thank you. I really like that. We can do it at home that easily. Am I missing something or you just didn’t put any liner inside?
Thx 👊 , The barrel comes with a liner 😉
Where did you get your barrel/insert? I contacted my local FX dealer to make an inquiry to convert my 25cal Panthera to a 22 cal and they stated there are no barrel conversion kits.
There are as of yet no conversion kits available but your local dealer should be able to order the parts needed for the conversion
Do you have the part numbers you could share, from when the parts were ordered
Nice, thanks... Your videos are always on point... I am wondering: Is the procedure for the Dynamic identical? Or, if not, what differs?
Sinds it’s exactly the same block 90% is the same except when it comes to bottle / buttstock configuration etc
@@Airbuks thanks, I figured so but you've got a few years on me qua experience. My Dynamic arrived last week... What an incredible machine.
I am in the process of trading my maverick .30 for this in .30 with the ar style folding stock and 480 cc bottle
will all this work the same on the .30 model
Yes it wil work exactly the same 👍
I'm assuming 300mm is probably ideal for 50 yards and okayisch till 100 yards, correct?
Yes correct, I see it more as a max 75 meter accurate and oké at 100
Great video :)
Thx
My top gauge is still full and I’ve turned it counter clockwise 2 revolution. Does anybody know why?
I want to do the opposite. Any one got a link for 700 mm kit to turn my hunter into a long range shooter?
You can better ask your dealer to special order it
Were can you get this in kit in the uk and how much
You should be able to order it at your local FX dealer . Don’t know the part numbers sorry
@@Airbuks thank you
Can you take the butt stock off n have a folding 1
@@MultiSmithy88 yes you can with the correct adapter kit . Didn’t I mention this in de video ?
@@Airbuks not sure cant remember my bad
You forgot one screw on that barricade at the end of the assembly, the one that is horizontal. It's very important since it is what makes the barricade acts as a reinforcement by securing the guard rail to the body of the panthera.
Love your spirit buddy! Good work!
I have a question about the sunshade extanded 4" of your Element scope. Where can i find it please?? Thanks in front!❤
The sunshades come included with the scopes and I don’t think they are available separately , if you want a extra one try mailing element optics to ask
@@Airbuks yea! That what i did. They are amazing! They shipped it to me 2 days ago🙏
@@stavsoo Nice 👍
Very well done! The only omission I see is that the short barrel cuts the Velocity/Power to less than half of the 700. I shoot the H&N 40gr slugs at 980fps, and this would reduce the power level to a BB gun.
I can easily shoot 18gr pellets at 890 fps with 125bar on the regulator, so it has more then power enough. It’s also never meant to be a slug shooter with this 300mm barrel . Mostly for pesting with pellets
I have the Leshiy 2 with 350mm barrel in .30 and it shoots the ZAN 49 grainers at 900 fps with ease. Yes a shorter barrel decreases the speed, but with the shorter plenum you can up the reg pressure so you get max acceleration via a short dump of the plenum.
@@jbhk7977 I have a Leshiy aswel in 30cal running the reg at 155bar to shoot 50gr at 850fps .
What jets and reg pressure do you use ?
@@Airbuks Hi my friend, we had contact via e-mail a few months ago (John). I have one L2 with 350 mm barrel and two 0.2 jets. Raptor reg set at 170 bar. My other L2 .30 has the FX 600mm barrel, two 0.1 jets, raptor set to 195 bar (pushing it hard hahaha) It shoots ZAN 49 grain at 1020 fps.
I'm debating with Matias and francisco about ditching the plenum and external reg and fit the Edgun HP POWER PLENUM for the leshiy 2 with the internal regulator. I think it can shoot faster with less regulator pressure.
I have the feeling that this larger plenum will fit the 600mm barrel more because it can dump air longer before the slug leaves the barrel yet with 170 bar pressure (I hope) The point is that when it fails, I lost about 400 Euros . . . I hope we can figure something out.
Whats the max the FX regulator can be set at? Thought i saw 170 somewhere.
Airbuks.... Your information is very good, here is the drama behind FX and the Pantera dynamic King block. The different barrels are non-existent or the barrel kids are non-existent. Are you receiving these barrel because you have a channel for it or are barrel kids really available for purchase?
Nice one. Will it affect the ftlbs? Ie put it over 12 ft?
I don’t have any experience with sub12 and only shoot FAC
I wanted to make this conversion of my .22 Compact Hunter to .30 cal and could not get the plenum so I had to BUY a new one in .30 at Pyramyd Air !
nice work!
Thx 👊
Where are the barrels available from?
You should be able to order it true you FX dealer