it already is, between people upset with HBO max just deleting several shows(some of which can only be watched now thru piracy now), people upset with Netflix's prices and threat of add ads to the service, and other people just not wanting to subscribe to five different streaming services piracy is having a slow uptick in the last couple of years.
It's weird how HBO Max was in a very good position and just destroyed itself overnight. Honestly the should have done the bundle thing with discovery like Disney plus and Hulu. Edit: I wrote this comment before he mentioned he would be doing a separate HBO Max video Edit 2: I personally believe that this merger should have never happened if they knew that this would lead them to be in debt
@@juggerslash7393 people are overreacting about them removing all there least watched shows which cost them money since they have to pay for residuals, if the show isn’t profitable then they shouldn’t keep it on the service, it’s just one of the first times we’ve seen this happen so it’s getting a lot of backlash. Look up the HBO Max last TH-cam video of there shows panel and you can see there’s dozens of good shows on the way to HBO Max
@@juggerslash7393 they removed alot of cartoons including cartoon networks originals like infinity train, mao mao heroes of pure heart, summer camp island, Ok ko, and much much more
@@juggerslash7393 new CEO took over. Same guy who was in charge of TLC and approved such television greats as Toddlers in Tiaras and 19 Kids and Counting... He just took a bunch of content away. A bunch of legacy HBO shows and a bunch of Cartoon Network shows. Just disappeared can't access it (legally...). The plan is to bundle HBOmax with Discovery because no one was buying Discovery... they are raising the price because of it. They canceled a bunch of shows and movies to use as tax right offs. Instead of making Discovery a product that people might actually be interested in buying they are just going to bundle in with a product that people already like, make it more expensive and give people no choice but to pay for it anyway if they want to watch the shows they were already watching.
Just a note here about Hulu, it doesn't exist outside of the US. As a Canadian I get everything on Disney+ instead so they already have merged all their content onto Disney elsewhere
And anecdotally, as a Brit I know a large proportion of people who don't even know what Hulu is so I'm not convinced that there would be the same "double dipping" potential anyways. I'm sure Disney probably recognise that as well, hence the merging of content.
All these American specific studios pretty much all end up on Netflix in UK. We still have the US Office and Friends on Netflix and they are still some of the most watched shows on the service.
Some Hulu exclusives (as they are not on the market in big parts of Europe) are streaming or even put on Broadcast tv with the streaming platforms of the native broadcasters in those areas… not on Disney+. Makes it so hard to find some of Hulu exclusive content over here.
“The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.” -Gabe Newell
I haven’t pirated music for years now since I got Apple Music. I search for a song and it’s there. Streaming needs to be the same if it’s going to survive.
Sony really benefited from Crackle failing years before the streaming wars began. It convinced Sony it wasn’t worth trying make a Sony streaming site. This allowed Sony to position themselves as the biggest 3rd party media seller/producer for other services at the perfect time. They are striking lucrative deals with Amazon, Netflix, Disney, and HBO. They also quietly became the dominant western anime streaming service (a rare profitable streaming service).
I remember when everyone thought HBO Max was gonna become the best streaming service until the discovery merger happened. All good things have to come to an end I guess :/
HBO Max's problem is that the parent company has too much debt so they are gonna set fire to anything not making money now in order to start resolving those debts. Which means a lot of niche and legacy shit is about to be thrown in the incinerator. I would suggest familiarizing yourself with some, ahem, more underground avenues of content acquisition.
@@spicyshark That's why I'll always pirate. No law in my country exists against pirating (and most of these services are either unavailable or have very limited content), so a win win.
A month or so ago I wanted to change my monthly HBO Max subscription to a yearly one but for some reason I wasn’t able to. I asked support about it and it took them 10 days to come back to me and meanwhile all the drama happened so I was happy that I got such a bad experience with their customer service.
Netflix greatly reduced the amount of piracy back in the day. It was cheap and accessible, so users flocked to it. The studios saw this and decided that making a small amount of money off streaming was better than making no money, so they flocked to it too. Then the studios saw that it was potentially quite profitable, so they decided to withdraw their content and host it on their own platforms. Now the content market is divided and expensive again, piracy is back, and the studios are feeling the squeeze. I’m sure the next 5 years will be very interesting for the streaming companies. Only a few will survive this current era of wrangling for subscribers, and the market will be back to the status quo of 10-20 years ago.
I think that Netflix, HBOMax, and Disney/Hulu are going to be the three big winners. Maybe HBOMax doesn't make it, given how they punted at their own 20 yard line back in August, but I doubt they'll keep screwing up enough to collapse. These are the three I think will be "main streamers". Paramount+ and AppleTV are totally screwed, everything else is either free with ads (Peacock, Crunchyroll, the Pluto/Tubi/Fubo clones) or fills a niche in the market (Shudder, Criterion, Crunchyroll again). There's gonna be room for a lot of shit especially since people are abandoning cable fast, but I doubt the general public is going to be willing to spend, on average, more than $30 dollars a month on entertainment.
The problem is that content-availability is best to consumers under a monopolistic model, while the affordability of content streaming is best under a splintered delivery market model. Ultimately Disney could end up as the anchor streaming service if they want to, by virtue of simply buying the competition. They are one of the few streamers that can afford to do so (their corporate income being wildly diversified). Amazon probably could as well (for the same reason) but they don't appear to have any interest whatsoever in developing their streaming market. Apple are happy to be niche it seems and none of the others are international enough or have access to enough content to be serious contenders for anything.
With what little faith I have left in capitalism, I hope this comes to pass. Like, that's literally the whole point. If you can't justify your existence through the market, then you don't get to exist.
Capitalism is the reason you have the streaming services in the first place. The other option is zero inovation and piracy stealing from the creators. Capitalism is what created netflix. It’s not perfect but it works. It’s not a fucking utopia 😂
This happened with music streaming services in the aftermath of torrenting. It happened with search engines. It's happened with gaming consoles, phone operating systems, and online retailers. It's going to happen with car manufacturers with the transition to electric, and I think you right to point it out here. Streaming will consolidate: it'll turn into growth by acquisition, or a bunch of them will just go bust. In any case, once a technology matures and companies start losing market share, a bunch of the players get shaken out and you are only left with a handful. Once this happens it will be marketing moreso than content that sorts the men from the boys.
You can argue this is a function of a market driven economy. When you are all in the same space, the X factor is salesmanship and reputation. That's why big boys tend to stay big boys until they themselves implode for any number of reasons. We may well end up with 4 big streaming services just like we still have 4 OTA networks.
Ehh, I can't agree with that. Most of the listed examples are platforms that just work better if there's standardization or just few. Most bands couldn't run a streaming service on their own. Movies on the other hand cost lots of money so whoever makes them is likely able to run a streaming service. And in case of movies all this consolidation seems to have hurt the creativity so people might turn away from big companies
Not to mention it also happened with the smartwatch market. Back then you had Pebble, Fitbit, Misfit, Nike, etc, but soon they were bought out by the big companies or just gave up entirely.
The streaming industry really differs from other industries when it comes to competition between companies. Usually, competition benefits customers because it incentivizes companies to bring down prices and dish out better products over time. But when it comes to streaming services, competition ruins affordability, accessibility, and convenience, which are the three main reasons why people subscribe to a streaming service in the first place.
Nope. Piracy. Affordable to everyone, accessible to everyone, and more convenient for everyone. You're only right if you ignore the agency of consumers, which, kinda idiotic to do gotta be honest. You can always find a way to turn everything into an edge case, but that doesn't make it right. The only reason everyone isn't pirating is because we've cultivated a societal hatred of it in favour of just trying to legislate companies to do what we want as opposed to addressing our actual agency and fighting them. Why stop buying iPhones if I want USB-C charging and/or basic respect, when I can just get the government to make them do what I want? What do you mean precedent? What do you mean "aouth-ora-terrarium", when did we start talking about gardening? What flavour is a tyranny anyway?
@@robonator2945 nigga no one cares about usb c if you talk to people in real life. Honestly TH-cam comments section, circle jerking to the extreme. Piracy is only convienient in some cases, in terms of pirating games not so much adware virus malware sites from shady sites isn’t too good, but movies is somewhat easy to do.
Despite who comes out on top, I hope we can ALL agree that no matter what Hulu is in last place. Absolutely inexcusable for any reason known to mankind that as long as we're paying a fee, we should NOT have to see ads.
It’s not solely the fault of Disney or of any ONE media corporation. It’s the fault of ALL of them combined making faulty and erroneous business choices in taking a huge gamble with streaming services. Basically, the creation of a huge number of streaming services by each media company both over saturated and fractured the market.
Too many chefs fighting over one cake. The cake ended up falling and splattering on the floor. Now they want people to pay to eat the dirty breadcrumbs.
I've been getting more and more anti-streaming for the last few years. I've always been a DVD collector, but now I have extra incentive to head to the local buy sell trade store and find shows and movies to own physically because licenses expire. It's very frustrating to watch a movie on netflix and a year or two later go to show it to a friend and it's gone, or any other service. My only hope is that this doesn't revitalize the cable market, that ship has sailed, but I hope physical home media makes a bigger comeback and I'm not talking about buying a digital copy of something because SURPRISE those suck too
@@knowledgeovermoney4100 Plus those sweet special features 👀I have a feature length documentary on my wizard of oz bluray. Streaming companies TRY 👏HARDER👏
I think a worthy successer to streaming could be antennas and over the air television. Most content aired on local stations are already licensed by bigger companies, If streaming fails They could just license all their content to local affiliates.
The streaming wars have taught me a valuable lesson. And that is that i honestly just dont need to see the latest thing that everybody is talking about. I have no idea whats happening on the baby yoda show... and thats fine.
I feel like there's going to be a point where a lot of the individual streaming services end up combining something like what Disney pleasant Hulu are doing at the moment and you know either bundle with themselves or some sort of thing so they can keep themselves or just get bought out by exclusive rights. I'm definitely looking forward to the HBO Max situation I completely canceled my subscription renewal that was coming up after a lot of my shows just got removed without notice and on their survey I let them know that I hate their CEO as well as the fact that I no longer can access these shows at all
It’s just so bizarre how utterly stupid Discovery’s CEO is with Warner Brothers, they were kind of hitting their stride as a studio with Dune, The Batman, The Suicide Squad (wasn’t a financial success but that could b attributed to it being released at the end of the pandemic on HBO Max), and other stuff. Especially with Marvel Fatigue, marketing yourself as the Anti-Disney doesn’t seem like a bad option.
That is why I just pirate all my shows. I shove them all onto a 6TB NAS and run plex. All my devices can access the content at any resolution, without ads, completely free. I have complete control over the library and nothing can be removed without my say-so. I have access to a much wider amount of content on a single platform, and can even have censored content that is unavailable anywhere else. It is a bit of work, but it's far better than paying $100+ to get a lesser service that is less user-friendly.
I think streaming will go through periodic expansion and consolidation cycles in terms of number of services and content being produced. We might be coming to the end of an expansion cycle as services that are just straight up unviable start to die. Though I don't think it's gonna be super drastic, as in every service that isn't Netflix and Disney's umbrella just up and die tomorrow; but will be a slow ebbing, and even big players (like Comcast [Peacock] and Viacom [Paramount]) might decide it would be best to re-enter into consortium with Hulu or Netflix again. But like Tyler says, the Golden Age is done, this is no longer a novel industry, it's just a young industry, and now it's time for the growing pains.
When ya said, “I donno why Hulu exists” let me tell ya why. Out of all the streaming services mentioned it is the only one that also has live tv. Also to get older shows it is basically the only game in town across various companies. Hulu is probably the best out of all the streaming services
Many, if not most, of the so-called "Netflix Originals" have not been made by Netflix and are not owned by Netflix. For instance, the "Defenders" series were made by Disney's Marvel Entertainment and by Disney's ABC Studios. Netflix licensed these shows, and those licenses expired. So, now, the series are available on Disney+, instead. Disney also makes and owns other so-called "Netflix Originals," including "Ratched," "The Politician," and "Arrested Development."
So far as I can tell, streaming is at some point going to end up as "cable, but on your computer, tablet or phone and also slightly worse." Hooray for progress?
It's still better than cable, (there's currently) no ads on most services (and you will probably be able to pay to remove them on higher tiers in the future) and the whole show is accessible. That said, a DVR made cable bearable, you could fast forward ads if you recorded something and they also had some seasons on demand, some forced you to watch ads though. That said, unless you were on HBO or Starz, movies were heavily edited for content, time and even had their aspect ratios messed with on cable, watching movies on cable was irritating compared to streaming.
I'm reminded of a period in US history Where a certain group of people was banned from owning private cinema's showing only their products Totally different this time guys, i swear. We're not doing that same shit we did back then
I’ve noticed also that as there is a shift to more and more streaming services with higher prices, more people are going back to pirating, just streaming using places like putlocker or solar movies for free.
Keeping hulu separate could also be a marketing thing. Like, hulu is a different brand with a different target audience, so maybe they're kinda worried that some people would jump ship if they merged it because they're not the target audience for Disney+ (albeit I kinda assume that the target audience for Disney+ is "everyone", so probably not)
They (read as we) did since the start of them, as we couldn't buy things anymore and instead get a subscription to a license that's limited just to the temporary consumption of things.
@@nekonomicon2983 Been pirating since I'm a preteen, gotta say missing out on trending contents weren't big deal as long as they're in digital with decent quality,and never paid a dime except for Spotify, they're great
There is someone losing the streaming wars: Us, the consumers---From Daredevil to Friends, shows have been a fuckfest with these services. And with constant questions in quality---Hulu has The Great and Solar Opposites, but then it also has... Which leaves us wondering where are we going to go? We don't have the viewer-based incentives for shows anymore that can both support a show's cost and quality while also canceling unnecessary bullshit far prior to it being greenlit (vast majority of Netflix's animated shows). The hope/promise with streaming service wasn't the prospect of streaming---but consistency; you get these shows and movies whenever you want wherever you want---foregoing airing times for 24/7 accessibility. Except you don't; Daredevil's going to most likely be reset---despite the building the three Netflix seasons had already done in Disney's favor (the 13 episode season better be hour long episodes on god) Shows are constantly picked up/rebooted on different services; Seasons for a show often being split between services. It's all just stupid profits for them and lack of quality content for us.
i think the mcu bloat thats started in phase 4 is another good example of that. due to it all being interconnected its gonna end up causing everything to become more and more confusing for an average viewer due to the fact that theres more and more content you need to watch for contexts. in fact, i think i heard all of phase 4, shows and movies, total to a longer runtime than all of phases 1-3 combined, and its looking like phase 5 (yeah apparently phase 4 just ended abruptly with no conclusion to... whatever fuckin story arc it had?????) is gonna be even more bloated with more focus on shows and... yeah i think the mcu had a good run for a bit. but it doesn't sound promising to be a lasting format by the end of the decade. and like... this happened because once phase 3 was done now disney had a streaming service of their own so they can also start making mcu shows so lets start shoving some of those in!
"I Love Lucy" and "The Twilight Zone" are still popular, even though they were shot in black-and-white. Not every older television show is "Perry Mason."
How many of the prime advertising demographic even know what "The Twilight Zone" or "I Love Lucy Are"? Of those, how many would actuyally pay to watch it?
What annoyed me about streaming Is the fact I can't buy a copy of the shows, I am not interested in renting (which streaming basically is), nor can expect to have internet all the time, and there are shows I want to watch on multiple different streams (and I can't afford to pay for that many).
Yes this! I would much rather own my content then rent it. For instance I own the office and friends. When it started disappearing off of streaming services I didn't care because I owned it. I would purchase something like stranger things in a heartbeat. Honestly most of the shows on these platforms aren't even as good as content done by independent creators on TH-cam. In a perfect world I would much rather get the first episode a series for free, buy the season if I liked it and then support independent creators instead. Force companies to actually make good content consistently otherwise they lose serious money.
At least MOST things are still available in physical format, which usually comes with a 'streaming/download' code. Currently this is still the case even for stuff like HBO MAX, but not sure if AMAZON PRIME is bothering with the BluRay revenue stream, since I assume PRIME VIDEO is just a 'free advertising' for AMAZON PRIME NEXT DAY SHIPPING...
That's what scares me. Imagine in the future whenever a streaming service goes down and all of their original content goes down with it and ends up becoming lost media. It's like what happened with quibi, but with very few physical releases being made expect to see a lot of lost media in the future.
I like Hulu because it has Futurama, King of the Hill, and The X-files. Takes me back to my childhood when I would watch them every Sunday evening. And they are just great shows.
the sheer amount of streaming services means that any content people actually want is strewn about between too many different services. Because people don’t want to buy 5 services, this means that no service will prevail. If a streaming service wants to be on top, they need to consolidate all content into one place.
@@mr.x2567 Alternate idea. You'd have one open platform everyone could upload content to and subscription fees would be distributed based on a percentage of watch time of content. Who would actually run such a platform is beyond me.
You mean like CABLE and/or SATTELITE TV companies, except streaming online instead of spending a fortune launching your own satellites! This actually WAS what Netflix essentially was, and I guess once the unprofitable streamers are finally put out of the misery, then where ONE 'network' wins, and all of the 'losers' end up licensing content to them...
I've found that Tubi TV, Pluto TV, IMDB TV, and a whole score of free-with-ads streaming services have just as good of a selection as the paid streaming services. *At that point, why bother paying for streaming?*
Tubi has some weird stuff on it, I found a “Happy Sciene” animated film. “Happy Science” is a Japanese cult. Highly recommend mother’s basement reviews of their films. They’re pretty insane.
I hate that format but honestly it's what I see a lot of people gravitating to, it's just too expensive to subscribe to multiple paid services for a handful of shows or movies they like, assuming said services even have it in their library after a year.
Id be open to buying more DvDs/Blu Ray discs if they werent so ridiculously overpriced. Even digital purchases of movies/shows is absurdly expensive. Should be 50 cents an episode tops.
Regionally it gets confusing too. As a Brit, I just found out we don’t have Hulu. Also we have Prey, family guy and American dad on Disney+ and I had no idea certain regions didn’t as well despite hearing constantly about things like Australian Netflix being empty by comparison
I dunno about Australian Netflix but i know New Zealand one is particularly bad. We have a bunch of local streaming platforms who bought the rights to popular content straight out of Netflix.
Gets even more confusing when we also have situations where shows are double published (bbc,channel 4 shows available on Netflix) or seasons of a show split between two services. I do have to say Disney+ has a massive catalogue in the uk.
Same for India we have Disney+hotstar which has all of hotstar content but doesn't have the complete Disney library, And gets so frustrating when I boot up and old show from my childhood only to see that the third season is not uploaded.
Star Trek Discovery was on Prime Video on anywhere in the world except the USA. When Netflix removed The Office, it was still available anywhere in the world except the USA. It's such a web of mess.
On the topic of Hulu in Europe, Canada, New Zealand and Singapore they just added it to Disney + for no extra cost under the label “Star”. As far as I’m aware only the USA requires extra payment for Hulu.
You say it's no longer the "golden age of streaming" but it's still better than cable and a VCR. When I was a kid the idea of watching shows on demand was absurd, the only thing on demand was pay-per-view movies and my Dad would only want to pay for that once or twice a year.
I wish the studios would invest more in theatrical exhibition at a time when theatergoing is more affordable than ever if you have A List or something similar.
The way you describe time slots makes so much sense to me. There is only so many shows that could exist on TV at any given time so the amount of importance and weight a good or legendary show could have on how you grew up and what you found interest in was way different. I feel like my generation was probably one of the last ones that'll ever experience media in that way since everybody now just can consume whatever they want and the level of attachment to shows is smaller as a result.
I was a child when cable started declining in popularity and even I could feel it as Disney and Nickelodeon got more and more desperate. I really liked Defunctland’s video about the Disney bumper jingle where he goes into the eras of early 2000s children cable television channels and the steep decline in the 2010s. The special episode of icarly with Fred for example was a cultural moment for me and kids my age that EVERYONE tuned in for and were taking about the next day. Stuff like that just won’t happen anymore as the media we consume gets more and more niche. I’m sure this also has a negative effect on peoples empathy for others in our political climate where you can cater your viewing experience so heavily to your own views
May everyone remember this: the one thing that killed streaming was GREED. That said, even if other companies hadn't launched their own streaming services and let Netflix have all the market share, it wouldn't guarantee a good outcome for everyone. Netflix itself has a lot of problems outside of the US: shows with forced inclusivity that makes zero sense to audiences outside of the US, cancelling successful shows after 1 or 2 seasons, interesting shows constantly disappearing from the platform due to licensing, etc. - the fact that they cracked down on shared accounts was just the cherry on top.
These streaming wars remind me of the dominoes of alliances that turned a Austro-Serbian conflict into the Great War-they all jumped into the streaming ship because their competitors were doing so, fragmenting the market shares into smaller and smaller pieces for even relative winners. Everyone went for broke trying to Schlieffen Plan each other, leading instead to a war of content attrition. The only apparent winners are going to be the ones with the least to lose or have the deepest pockets: Hulu’s low operating costs, Netflix’s head start and reserves of shows, and Disney+ is quite possibly too big to lose. Peacock and Paramount Plus and almost all the others will be the Romania and Bulgaria, entering the war late and too small to withstand the attrition. Amazon Prime is probably America, where they’re not actually all-in like France/HBO Max so they’ll come out well.
Pretty much all of Hulu's shows are on Disney Plus here in the UK, mainly as not only does Hulu not exist here, they even IP block people outside the US from watching it. Netflix also lost all their BBC shows like Top Gear and Doctor Who to BritBox here.
@@Carewolf I think it was regional. PRetty sure I saw at least SOME SEASONS of Top Gear UK on Netflix in Canada. But I remember it was ONLY like seasons 5+ for some reason... And the OTHER problem even with PHYSICAL MEDIA are things like MUSICAL RIGHTS issues. I'm pretty sure that ALL of the TOP GEAR DVD releases REPLACED the GREAT CLASSIC ROCK/POP music featured in the original broadcasts, with 'Generic Up-Temp Music' for the DVD releases... Issue being that they couldn't afford the MUSIC COPYRIGHTS, which were initially covered 'free' since the show was on the BBC, which already owned musical copyrights for ORIGINAL BROADCAST... And it's AMAZING how much GOOD MUSIC can improve a program! It's just BETTER hearing Pink Floyd or Radiohead in the background than imitation 'elevator music'...
Since the pandemic started, The Walt Disney Company has chosen to release every Pixar film exclusively on Disney+. People complained. So, Disney made "Lightyear" available in theatres before the film arrived on Disney+ 45 days later. In reality, announcing a 45-day window to people who are likely already subscribed to Disney+ is not a good way to get them to spend additional money to see the film in theatres. Most people are able to wait a few weeks.
Streaming was at its peak in 2017, HD netflix was 9.99 a month and Hulu was about the same. If the prices didn't literally double, I wouldn't have switched to other... certain websites lol
1995 to 2015 I'd say was the Golden Age of the internet. That sweet spot where it was a wild west of content made with nearly pure motivations of creativity and very humble and small scale profit incentives. Once corporate smelled money in the water from stuff like Netflix and Google owned TH-cam, it was over. The Internet is getting dragged down from this novel space of fresh ideas to be more and more in line with what the dinosaurs of the media industry understand. Remember when Homestar Runner and Ask a Ninja was the hottest shit you could watch on the internet? That's the golden age. Not because of the quality of those shows, but because of the genuine, grass roots creativity behind it.
The lemming class of people should never be allowed to touch things as they are corporate drones who want to throw money to have something put the rest of the way onto their lap with minimal effort, it's why the most shocking or outwardly "Weird" subcultures have thrived untainted because there's no way to make them marketable.
My mom always makes fun of my younger cousins for there lack of interest in cable TV and to be honest this just proves it’s becoming obsolete. I sometimes struggle finding shows that are even on cable TV anyways. Either way this was a good video and opened up a interesting discussion!
I think Netflix will survive. I mean they started with DVDs, started making their own content when studios started taking their stuff off, and now they're doing an ad supported version. They continue to evolve so I think they'll survive. Also people like their original content like Arcane, Cobra Kai, Squid Games, etc. Hulu will survive, however I think Disney will eventually buy all the shares and merge it into Disney+. Why have two streaming services? I'm not sure if the smaller, newer streaming services will survive, but who knows. I think some of them will merge. There will probably be 4 major streaming services like how there was 4 major networks.
Firstly, the kind of advertising that these streaming services should be focusing on is self promoting the shows that they already have. Much of Netlflix's actions as of late seem to stem from thinking the original content they invested in such as their animated projects, many of which have been cancelled now, have been underperforming because not enough people are watching them and as such are not profitable even though they are very much at fault for not properly promoting said original projects along with the movies and shows they got licensed to stream on their service. Secondly, another reason why the streaming era is a bit of a mess right now is because of bull headed companies looking at Netflix's various successes and deciding they were going to want their very on piece of the pie and started saturating the market with all of these streaming services. All the while not comprehending that the entire point of people transitioning from cable to Streaming was so they no longer had to deal with all the problems of cable and as such these jokers are now trying to turn Streaming into the new Cable. How the heck are aspiring content creators and amazing projects ever going to get the attention they deserve when these jerks keep spreading the attention of the masses even thinner than it already is.
A lot of their animated projects are also just . . . not very good. I mean, some are great. Arcane is amazing. A lot of the licensed anime (which is I know, technically not internally produced) has been pretty solid. But stuff like Bigmouth? -Shudder-
We're currently in the "Sega VS Nintendo console war" stage of streaming services development. We just watch and wait for a majority of the competition to fall like Atari - and eventually Sega did - before the victors will emerge and the market will settle.
The vast majority of the 80,000 titles on Hulu are not owned by The Walt Disney Company. Hulu mostly licenses content from third parties and aggregates it in one place. Then, Hulu is made available as a package with Disney+ and ESPN+, for a discount.
It would be in Disney's interests to direct audiences to Disney-owned content, on Disney+, first and, then, to offer Hulu's third-party content as an add-on that expands the overall offering. The same is true for ESPN+. These two services, ultimately, should be add-ons that Disney+ members are not forced to buy. The Walt Disney Company should move almost all of its owned content to Disney+ and make Disney+ memberships more of a prerequisite to getting access to Hulu and ESPN+.
I hope renting stores come back. Quite a few have survived in my town so this may be their oportunity to be reborn, just like how the crash of TV has revitalized radio shows. I really hope physical makes a comeback, or a digital store kind of like Steam, I hate streaming services. I really want to have these shows on my fucking shelves and display them. What I mean is, Apple make a physical version of Prehistoric Planet, please. That show needs to be on my shelf alongside my old Walking with Dinosaurs disk that doesn't even work anymore.
@@SlapstickGenius23 I'm not sure what disk rot is, but a lot of the episodes get stuck at a certain point because of how many times I have reproduced them. Unsurprisingly, New Blood and Cruel Sea still work fine as those two were the scariest for me as a kid.
@@Nala15-Artist True, but it's diferent since on practice almost anything is removed from Steam and it doesn't cost anything to the owner of the content nor Steam to maintain it's existence (except for multiplayer games and strange decisions). So there just isn't an incentive to remove stuff from it or prevent the access to stuff on it. I mean, they could, but they don't gain anything with it and loose both reputation and trust. It's not a streaming service. It's a licencing service. The diference seems subtle but it's a huge deal because it doesn't cost money to maintain (well, except for Steam itself, but they are drowning in money and I don't see that situation changing soon).
I'm more amazed by the fact that people are watching TV shows in 4 bloody k. I watch most of my shows in 480p on BBC iPlayer, and honestly, I can barely tell the difference between anything is above 720p.
It's a classic story of killing the goose that laid the golden eggs. These studios had a pretty sweet deal with Netflix. Netflix would assume all the costs and responsibility of hosting your content and pay you for the right to do so. Practically a license to print money if you have a big backlog of films and TV shows. But it just wasn't enough for them. They got dollar signs in their eyes and have demolished the whole thing. Instead of a couple successful streaming platforms, we have a dozen that are struggling to stay above water.
Another thing to keep in mind is "Hulu with Live TV." My mom still want to watch her cable TV channels but I'm tired of dealing with the cable box and the much higher price increases with traditional cable. So for the same price of a basic Spectrum cable TV package, we get Hulu on-demand, Hulu with Live TV and cloud DVR, and recently Disney+ and ESPN got added with the $5 hike. No need for a pesky cable box or having to call just to cancel or add channels. We're subscribed to it just like any online streaming service.
I've been a Netflix subscriber since 2003 when it was a DVD home delivery service. I remember when they introduced streaming in 2007/08 and it was free with your subscription. And then it was an $1/mo. extra for streaming on top of DVDs. And now it's $20/mo. for the top-tier package with no DVDs at all. It's hard to believe I've been paying Netflix every month for nearly 20 years. 🤣🤣🤣
Interesting points all around. In the end steaming will be the norm. I, a 25 year old, have not watched traditional television for about 15 years now. The lack of ads, a pause button, and being able to watch what I wanted when I wanted made all the other hastle worth it for me. I relied on mainly on TH-cam and sketchy sites that pirated their content back when I was in my tweens and early teens; then I started to use streaming services once they became more viable. Regardless of a golden age or not, cable television is not here to stay. It's taking longer than I thought it would to die, but it WILL die, it's just a matter of how much longer it has to live.
from what I heard, the merger put them in debt and they didn't want to continue paying residuals to as many creators. So they removed a bunch of shows they felt people wouldn't miss (mostly animated shows, because nobody watches animation amirite) to avoid continuing to pay the creators. tldr: money
I wish Netflix became the Steam of streaming and I'm sure they wished so too. And while I mentioned Stream, did you notice a lot of video game publishers are pushing their game launchers these days. But Steam won't budge.
ehh, with the constant torrent of quality games that epic gives out for free plus their ownership of fortnite the epic games launcher is a decent contender
I didn't even realize I had Prime video until about a year after I started my Amazon Prime account. Glad I did though. Good Omens, Invincible, The Boys, Vinland Saga, and Reacher have all been enjoyable shows for me
I remember back in 2016 when I used to watch this guy for his history content. I was at that age where all you want to do is know more useless facts than everyone, and oh boy I did. Although now I see that my strange obsession with WW2 and the Cold War was just silly and most, if not all, the information was stupid and useless. Now Cody is producing the same strange and useless information that I LOVE. Also, why did you change his name?
Honestly I knew very well that Netflix despite the struggles would still remain King and even believe they would make a better recovery than Disney itself. Sure I didn't like some of the choices they make and they are still a corporate business that needs to make profits to pay off their Dept, but I never really wanted to quit the service despite others saying they would and even though they are a big company they are nothing compared to the other services with even bigger companies backing so I knew they have to listen to the consumers one of these days.
So true. We pay for TH-cam Premium cause makes life so much easier for TV and mobile device (when out and about) and I actually do use the music service that comes with it. But only service we do pay for content in our house is Netflix and for the top package too, cause they still have shows we watch and like! We are heavy Amazon Prime user for delivery so the free streaming with it is non consequential. I upgrade my Samsung phone every year and they keep throwing free 12 month Disney+ at me, so I always have it but if Samsung stops the promo I'm not going out of my way to pay for Disney+. I also have iPhone and that came with Apple TV for free, the moment the promo finishes I'm cancelling cause I not bother to pay for it. For everything else that gets blocked behind Cock&Bull streaming service, we sail the high seas!
Netflix had it right at the start. Everyone else trying to get a piece of the pie. If Netflix can hold on long enough to buy out competition they can take over again. All the subscriptions can over take the cable bill you were trying to get rid of.
I remember back when Netflix had all the old shows I wanted to watch while smoking a bowl and eating bad food. Now that is Hulu for me. I’m not saying every streaming service needs to cover this niche, just that this is the only thing I care about for TV content.
The problem with streaming services is exclusivity. I'm sometimes thinking of an interconnector streaming service that would pay the services themselves, but IDK how to negotiate that
🔖Exclusive rights is causing a HUGE problem in the industry and very few people realize it. Compare it to music where any radio station from Thailand, Belgium, or Australia can play Oasis songs and you don't have region locks. For instance, Star Trek Discovery was on Prime Video on anywhere in the world except the USA. When Netflix removed The Office, it was still available anywhere in the world except the USA. It's such a web of mess.
When Netflix first started I was amazed at how much content they had, nowadays it reminds me more of the Walmart bargain bin. At least I'll always have my (free movie no virus 100% working) download sites.
I think the streaming platforms are still sorting themselves out. Maybe what HBO Max did will become the norm. Perhaps the platforms will periodically shed content to keep diverting people from their main content. If streaming platforms introduce widespread advertising then expect this to happen a lot more. With the smaller platforms, their long-term success will depend greatly on the health of their corporate parent who often will make decisions that are not in the best interest of an entertainment division.
I remember when Netflix first started streaming, if you wanted to watch a movie, you'd have to select a DVD as if you were going to rent it and them click the streaming option, but if you wanted to watch a TV show, since this was back in the age of "lets split one seasons into five volumes" you would have to search for all the volumes and switch DVDs when you wanted to go to the next one, and sometimes they didn't even have all of the volumes, let alone the entire show
I don't think we've seen the "golden age of streaming" yet. This has been more like the gold rush age. Lots of quick money from low hanging fruit. Once we see where the dust settles, there is going to be a real fight for viewers and that will require quality content on a consolidated number of services. I'm also thinking we are going to see me FreeVee style commercial supported services. No monthly so it has no barrier to entry.
...Good! I actually do not mind advertisements and do not understand the animosity but I personally believe that if a streamer must have ads, it should be FREE.
I see the point about Disney double dipping. But a hypothetical what if: What if Disney+ was the ONLY primary streaming service, as in they buy out the rest of hulu and comcast and corner the market of media. They would quite literally run a monopoly of media.
ill just go to their office and steal their servers and storage stuff and plunder everything like piracy but like irl ill put it all on a boat as the cannons fire
I think that same thing that happened with online game stores will happen with streaming services. At one point every game company had it store, like EA Origin, but now all those games are returning to Steam or Epic store.
One of my griped with traditional television is that shows never end, and if they do, it feels like they suddenly woke up one day to the news that they were getting cansled. So in traditional television, there are so few good endings to a show, and in storytelling, the ending is half the experience, if the ending suck, the show sucks. Its here i am hopeful in the future of streaming, since they only need quantity of shows, and the quality is a bonus, if you are only getting 12 episodes, you can plan around that, and get a good show, take Terminal List that just came out, it has a beginning, an middle, and an ending, and its a good show to boot. There is a time and a place for a comfort show where you can just pull up an episode and chew down on it, wihtout having to engage in the story as a whole, but that isnt who i am, and that isnt why i watch TV, am here for a story, and i dont wana slog trough 540 episodes of mediocre filler to get to the conclusion. But then agen, am not gona subscribe to 50 different streaming services to only see the good once, so i guess that is their loss.
Yeah, streaming and cable services should produce series that will end, no matter how popular, with X amount of episodes. And unpopular series, that must be canceled, should be contracted to have Y amount of episodes to conclude their stories.
One of the thing I found on Amazon Prime is that some of the movie and show require you to have another subscription from another stream service to watch it. Another thing they do is that they made the unknown movies or shows no longer prime meaning if you want to watch them now you'll have to buy all of the episodes even though the reason people watched them was because they part of prime.
I was willing to pay for 2-3 services and I feel like most of share that mentality. I’f I had Hulu and Amazon and my girlfriend had Netflix and Disney then things were good. But now it’s just too much. Let’s just say I got so tired of having to google where my favorite shows went to that I no longer pay for any of them and still get all the content I want.
8:52 isn’t that what Ryan did in the office when he got arrested for fraud? Counting one purchase as more than one, though he did it by repeating sales through his website.
I always see people complain about how expensive it's getting to subscribe to so many services but like, there's no reason you have to be subscribed to all of them at the same time. All you have to do is figure out which shows you want to watch, then subscribe to just one or two services each month as you make your way through that list.
If every company goes towards individualized streaming services, piracy will sail stronger than ever.
It already is. I've gotten more people to pirate now more than ever before.
@@jighrgorehgrohtgrhkd chad
Based and Putlocker pilled
as long as I live I shall sail the high seas 🏴☠
it already is, between people upset with HBO max just deleting several shows(some of which can only be watched now thru piracy now), people upset with Netflix's prices and threat of add ads to the service, and other people just not wanting to subscribe to five different streaming services piracy is having a slow uptick in the last couple of years.
It's weird how HBO Max was in a very good position and just destroyed itself overnight. Honestly the should have done the bundle thing with discovery like Disney plus and Hulu. Edit: I wrote this comment before he mentioned he would be doing a separate HBO Max video Edit 2: I personally believe that this merger should have never happened if they knew that this would lead them to be in debt
What happened to HBO max?
@@juggerslash7393 let's just say WB/Discovery's new favorite game is How Many Bridges Can We Burn Down As Quickly As Possible?
@@juggerslash7393 people are overreacting about them removing all there least watched shows which cost them money since they have to pay for residuals, if the show isn’t profitable then they shouldn’t keep it on the service, it’s just one of the first times we’ve seen this happen so it’s getting a lot of backlash.
Look up the HBO Max last TH-cam video of there shows panel and you can see there’s dozens of good shows on the way to HBO Max
@@juggerslash7393 they removed alot of cartoons including cartoon networks originals like infinity train, mao mao heroes of pure heart, summer camp island,
Ok ko, and much much more
@@juggerslash7393 new CEO took over. Same guy who was in charge of TLC and approved such television greats as Toddlers in Tiaras and 19 Kids and Counting... He just took a bunch of content away. A bunch of legacy HBO shows and a bunch of Cartoon Network shows. Just disappeared can't access it (legally...). The plan is to bundle HBOmax with Discovery because no one was buying Discovery... they are raising the price because of it. They canceled a bunch of shows and movies to use as tax right offs.
Instead of making Discovery a product that people might actually be interested in buying they are just going to bundle in with a product that people already like, make it more expensive and give people no choice but to pay for it anyway if they want to watch the shows they were already watching.
Just a note here about Hulu, it doesn't exist outside of the US. As a Canadian I get everything on Disney+ instead so they already have merged all their content onto Disney elsewhere
And anecdotally, as a Brit I know a large proportion of people who don't even know what Hulu is so I'm not convinced that there would be the same "double dipping" potential anyways. I'm sure Disney probably recognise that as well, hence the merging of content.
Another note: it does exist in Japan. I’ve been made painfully aware of that fact when I was trying to watch a show that was Hulu exclusive.
In Mexico instead of Disney + Hulu you get Disney x Star+ and ironically you get to buy it at the cable company.
All these American specific studios pretty much all end up on Netflix in UK. We still have the US Office and Friends on Netflix and they are still some of the most watched shows on the service.
Some Hulu exclusives (as they are not on the market in big parts of Europe) are streaming or even put on Broadcast tv with the streaming platforms of the native broadcasters in those areas… not on Disney+. Makes it so hard to find some of Hulu exclusive content over here.
“The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.”
-Gabe Newell
Nah that the point. Unfortunately the owner of those companies are too ignorant/stubborn /greedy/stupid to understand this
That used to be netflix for me
Something like the Itunes of old. Or just physical media
I haven’t pirated music for years now since I got Apple Music. I search for a song and it’s there. Streaming needs to be the same if it’s going to survive.
It astounds me that it seems like no one in the entertainment industry has figured this out yet, this quote has literally never not been relevant
Sony really benefited from Crackle failing years before the streaming wars began.
It convinced Sony it wasn’t worth trying make a Sony streaming site.
This allowed Sony to position themselves as the biggest 3rd party media seller/producer for other services at the perfect time.
They are striking lucrative deals with Amazon, Netflix, Disney, and HBO.
They also quietly became the dominant western anime streaming service (a rare profitable streaming service).
I remember when everyone thought HBO Max was gonna become the best streaming service until the discovery merger happened. All good things have to come to an end I guess :/
HBO Max's problem is that the parent company has too much debt so they are gonna set fire to anything not making money now in order to start resolving those debts. Which means a lot of niche and legacy shit is about to be thrown in the incinerator.
I would suggest familiarizing yourself with some, ahem, more underground avenues of content acquisition.
@@andrejg4136 🎵do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate🎵
@@spicyshark That's why I'll always pirate. No law in my country exists against pirating (and most of these services are either unavailable or have very limited content), so a win win.
A month or so ago I wanted to change my monthly HBO Max subscription to a yearly one but for some reason I wasn’t able to. I asked support about it and it took them 10 days to come back to me and meanwhile all the drama happened so I was happy that I got such a bad experience with their customer service.
@@DacLMK do you live on Mars?
Netflix greatly reduced the amount of piracy back in the day. It was cheap and accessible, so users flocked to it. The studios saw this and decided that making a small amount of money off streaming was better than making no money, so they flocked to it too.
Then the studios saw that it was potentially quite profitable, so they decided to withdraw their content and host it on their own platforms. Now the content market is divided and expensive again, piracy is back, and the studios are feeling the squeeze. I’m sure the next 5 years will be very interesting for the streaming companies. Only a few will survive this current era of wrangling for subscribers, and the market will be back to the status quo of 10-20 years ago.
I think that Netflix, HBOMax, and Disney/Hulu are going to be the three big winners. Maybe HBOMax doesn't make it, given how they punted at their own 20 yard line back in August, but I doubt they'll keep screwing up enough to collapse. These are the three I think will be "main streamers". Paramount+ and AppleTV are totally screwed, everything else is either free with ads (Peacock, Crunchyroll, the Pluto/Tubi/Fubo clones) or fills a niche in the market (Shudder, Criterion, Crunchyroll again). There's gonna be room for a lot of shit especially since people are abandoning cable fast, but I doubt the general public is going to be willing to spend, on average, more than $30 dollars a month on entertainment.
@@DoctorCyan what about Amazon prime
The problem is that content-availability is best to consumers under a monopolistic model, while the affordability of content streaming is best under a splintered delivery market model.
Ultimately Disney could end up as the anchor streaming service if they want to, by virtue of simply buying the competition. They are one of the few streamers that can afford to do so (their corporate income being wildly diversified). Amazon probably could as well (for the same reason) but they don't appear to have any interest whatsoever in developing their streaming market. Apple are happy to be niche it seems and none of the others are international enough or have access to enough content to be serious contenders for anything.
With what little faith I have left in capitalism, I hope this comes to pass. Like, that's literally the whole point. If you can't justify your existence through the market, then you don't get to exist.
Capitalism is the reason you have the streaming services in the first place. The other option is zero inovation and piracy stealing from the creators. Capitalism is what created netflix. It’s not perfect but it works. It’s not a fucking utopia 😂
This happened with music streaming services in the aftermath of torrenting. It happened with search engines. It's happened with gaming consoles, phone operating systems, and online retailers. It's going to happen with car manufacturers with the transition to electric, and I think you right to point it out here. Streaming will consolidate: it'll turn into growth by acquisition, or a bunch of them will just go bust. In any case, once a technology matures and companies start losing market share, a bunch of the players get shaken out and you are only left with a handful. Once this happens it will be marketing moreso than content that sorts the men from the boys.
You can argue this is a function of a market driven economy. When you are all in the same space, the X factor is salesmanship and reputation. That's why big boys tend to stay big boys until they themselves implode for any number of reasons. We may well end up with 4 big streaming services just like we still have 4 OTA networks.
Ehh, I can't agree with that. Most of the listed examples are platforms that just work better if there's standardization or just few. Most bands couldn't run a streaming service on their own. Movies on the other hand cost lots of money so whoever makes them is likely able to run a streaming service. And in case of movies all this consolidation seems to have hurt the creativity so people might turn away from big companies
Not to mention it also happened with the smartwatch market. Back then you had Pebble, Fitbit, Misfit, Nike, etc, but soon they were bought out by the big companies or just gave up entirely.
these are for the most part wildly different stories.
@@tomlxyz “most brands couldn’t run a streaming service on their own” you defeated your own argument within it
The streaming industry really differs from other industries when it comes to competition between companies. Usually, competition benefits customers because it incentivizes companies to bring down prices and dish out better products over time. But when it comes to streaming services, competition ruins affordability, accessibility, and convenience, which are the three main reasons why people subscribe to a streaming service in the first place.
What if every streaming service could rent the productions for the same price X subscribers count ?
Nope. Piracy. Affordable to everyone, accessible to everyone, and more convenient for everyone. You're only right if you ignore the agency of consumers, which, kinda idiotic to do gotta be honest. You can always find a way to turn everything into an edge case, but that doesn't make it right. The only reason everyone isn't pirating is because we've cultivated a societal hatred of it in favour of just trying to legislate companies to do what we want as opposed to addressing our actual agency and fighting them. Why stop buying iPhones if I want USB-C charging and/or basic respect, when I can just get the government to make them do what I want? What do you mean precedent? What do you mean "aouth-ora-terrarium", when did we start talking about gardening? What flavour is a tyranny anyway?
@@robonator2945 what the fuck are you talking about
@@finalcut612 piracy. I thought that was pretty clear given it was the first word of my reply but I guess I overestimated the youtube comment section.
@@robonator2945 nigga no one cares about usb c if you talk to people in real life. Honestly TH-cam comments section, circle jerking to the extreme. Piracy is only convienient in some cases, in terms of pirating games not so much adware virus malware sites from shady sites isn’t too good, but movies is somewhat easy to do.
Despite who comes out on top, I hope we can ALL agree that no matter what Hulu is in last place. Absolutely inexcusable for any reason known to mankind that as long as we're paying a fee, we should NOT have to see ads.
Disney yet again took the magic out of everything
It’s not solely the fault of Disney or of any ONE media corporation. It’s the fault of ALL of them combined making faulty and erroneous business choices in taking a huge gamble with streaming services. Basically, the creation of a huge number of streaming services by each media company both over saturated and fractured the market.
Too many chefs fighting over one cake. The cake ended up falling and splattering on the floor. Now they want people to pay to eat the dirty breadcrumbs.
Tyler hasn’t gone completely off his rocker in a while. I hope he’s ok
Alf
@@leiferickson1494 this is true
I've been getting more and more anti-streaming for the last few years. I've always been a DVD collector, but now I have extra incentive to head to the local buy sell trade store and find shows and movies to own physically because licenses expire. It's very frustrating to watch a movie on netflix and a year or two later go to show it to a friend and it's gone, or any other service. My only hope is that this doesn't revitalize the cable market, that ship has sailed, but I hope physical home media makes a bigger comeback and I'm not talking about buying a digital copy of something because SURPRISE those suck too
I have a sick dvd collection and I love swapping discs out when something goes off 😌
@@knowledgeovermoney4100 Plus those sweet special features 👀I have a feature length documentary on my wizard of oz bluray. Streaming companies TRY 👏HARDER👏
@@kakerumanabelover The Shrek bonus features are crazy, it just can’t compete
I had a massive DVD collection until some jackasses stole them from my storage unit.
I think a worthy successer to streaming could be antennas and over the air television. Most content aired on local stations are already licensed by bigger companies, If streaming fails They could just license all their content to local affiliates.
Streaming Wars are like Nuclear Wars. There are now Winners, only Survivors.
The streaming wars have taught me a valuable lesson. And that is that i honestly just dont need to see the latest thing that everybody is talking about.
I have no idea whats happening on the baby yoda show... and thats fine.
I feel like there's going to be a point where a lot of the individual streaming services end up combining something like what Disney pleasant Hulu are doing at the moment and you know either bundle with themselves or some sort of thing so they can keep themselves or just get bought out by exclusive rights.
I'm definitely looking forward to the HBO Max situation I completely canceled my subscription renewal that was coming up after a lot of my shows just got removed without notice and on their survey I let them know that I hate their CEO as well as the fact that I no longer can access these shows at all
It’s just so bizarre how utterly stupid Discovery’s CEO is with Warner Brothers, they were kind of hitting their stride as a studio with Dune, The Batman, The Suicide Squad (wasn’t a financial success but that could b attributed to it being released at the end of the pandemic on HBO Max), and other stuff. Especially with Marvel Fatigue, marketing yourself as the Anti-Disney doesn’t seem like a bad option.
Yeah deleting the Cartoon Network database is, well, cartoonishly evil
That is why I just pirate all my shows. I shove them all onto a 6TB NAS and run plex. All my devices can access the content at any resolution, without ads, completely free.
I have complete control over the library and nothing can be removed without my say-so. I have access to a much wider amount of content on a single platform, and can even have censored content that is unavailable anywhere else.
It is a bit of work, but it's far better than paying $100+ to get a lesser service that is less user-friendly.
That's just cable
@@x-fun3149 the mechanics have changed, but the people haven't. Tech doesn't change human nature, just exposes it.
I think streaming will go through periodic expansion and consolidation cycles in terms of number of services and content being produced.
We might be coming to the end of an expansion cycle as services that are just straight up unviable start to die.
Though I don't think it's gonna be super drastic, as in every service that isn't Netflix and Disney's umbrella just up and die tomorrow; but will be a slow ebbing, and even big players (like Comcast [Peacock] and Viacom [Paramount]) might decide it would be best to re-enter into consortium with Hulu or Netflix again.
But like Tyler says, the Golden Age is done, this is no longer a novel industry, it's just a young industry, and now it's time for the growing pains.
>this is no longer a novel industry, it's just a young industry, and now it's time for the growing pains.
Well put.
It’s going through it’s Adolescent Transition.
@@UnexpectedBooks oh god. We're looking at 5 or so years of being told "it's not a phase!"
@@FerretPirate lmao yes
I agree nobody will win the streaming wars.
But, I can assure you I am confidant who will lose.
The Federative Republic of Bosnia and Herzehovina?
Corn hub will lose those heretics duh
@@bosanski_Cevap No, The Republic of North Macedonia
hbo max paramount plus peacock uhhh some others I forgot
@@bosanski_Cevap Srpska will be hit the hardest
When ya said, “I donno why Hulu exists” let me tell ya why. Out of all the streaming services mentioned it is the only one that also has live tv. Also to get older shows it is basically the only game in town across various companies. Hulu is probably the best out of all the streaming services
Many, if not most, of the so-called "Netflix Originals" have not been made by Netflix and are not owned by Netflix.
For instance, the "Defenders" series were made by Disney's Marvel Entertainment and by Disney's ABC Studios. Netflix licensed these shows, and those licenses expired. So, now, the series are available on Disney+, instead.
Disney also makes and owns other so-called "Netflix Originals," including "Ratched," "The Politician," and "Arrested Development."
So far as I can tell, streaming is at some point going to end up as "cable, but on your computer, tablet or phone and also slightly worse." Hooray for progress?
It already is.
Ppl forget the rising prices of wifi too, so the actual price of these streaming services is way higher than cable nowadays
It's already like that basically
It's still better than cable, (there's currently) no ads on most services (and you will probably be able to pay to remove them on higher tiers in the future) and the whole show is accessible. That said, a DVR made cable bearable, you could fast forward ads if you recorded something and they also had some seasons on demand, some forced you to watch ads though. That said, unless you were on HBO or Starz, movies were heavily edited for content, time and even had their aspect ratios messed with on cable, watching movies on cable was irritating compared to streaming.
I'm reminded of a period in US history
Where a certain group of people was banned from owning private cinema's showing only their products
Totally different this time guys, i swear. We're not doing that same shit we did back then
Time is a fucking flat circle. Jesus christ...
nothing changed, its the same kind of people, they're just smarter this time and know to dish out the bribes for favourable legislation ahead of time
hava nagila hava nagila
Hm yes I guess we shall pass anti-corruption laws
@Angry JayByrd found the racist
I’ve noticed also that as there is a shift to more and more streaming services with higher prices, more people are going back to pirating, just streaming using places like putlocker or solar movies for free.
and myflixer
f movies >>>>>
Keeping hulu separate could also be a marketing thing. Like, hulu is a different brand with a different target audience, so maybe they're kinda worried that some people would jump ship if they merged it because they're not the target audience for Disney+ (albeit I kinda assume that the target audience for Disney+ is "everyone", so probably not)
It’s more likely that everyone will lose, especially the consumer
They (read as we) did since the start of them, as we couldn't buy things anymore and instead get a subscription to a license that's limited just to the temporary consumption of things.
Consumers lose when there is a monopoly.
pirate what u want my guy
This is why piracy will only increase
@@nekonomicon2983
Been pirating since I'm a preteen, gotta say missing out on trending contents weren't big deal as long as they're in digital with decent quality,and never paid a dime except for Spotify, they're great
There is someone losing the streaming wars: Us, the consumers---From Daredevil to Friends, shows have been a fuckfest with these services. And with constant questions in quality---Hulu has The Great and Solar Opposites, but then it also has...
Which leaves us wondering where are we going to go? We don't have the viewer-based incentives for shows anymore that can both support a show's cost and quality while also canceling unnecessary bullshit far prior to it being greenlit (vast majority of Netflix's animated shows).
The hope/promise with streaming service wasn't the prospect of streaming---but consistency; you get these shows and movies whenever you want wherever you want---foregoing airing times for 24/7 accessibility. Except you don't; Daredevil's going to most likely be reset---despite the building the three Netflix seasons had already done in Disney's favor (the 13 episode season better be hour long episodes on god) Shows are constantly picked up/rebooted on different services; Seasons for a show often being split between services.
It's all just stupid profits for them and lack of quality content for us.
At this point I feel best with those shows I got collected on DVD. Other than that it’s just one service, Amazon, right now, and I might drop that.
We have most of the majors and still feel like there's nothing to watch. About ready to dump streaming like we did cable.
i think the mcu bloat thats started in phase 4 is another good example of that. due to it all being interconnected its gonna end up causing everything to become more and more confusing for an average viewer due to the fact that theres more and more content you need to watch for contexts. in fact, i think i heard all of phase 4, shows and movies, total to a longer runtime than all of phases 1-3 combined, and its looking like phase 5 (yeah apparently phase 4 just ended abruptly with no conclusion to... whatever fuckin story arc it had?????) is gonna be even more bloated with more focus on shows and... yeah i think the mcu had a good run for a bit. but it doesn't sound promising to be a lasting format by the end of the decade.
and like... this happened because once phase 3 was done now disney had a streaming service of their own so they can also start making mcu shows so lets start shoving some of those in!
@@walkingonneedles mcu is fucking done for. all it is now is OH I REMEMBER SEEING THAT!!! the aha moments aren’t even smart or creative anymore
"I Love Lucy" and "The Twilight Zone" are still popular, even though they were shot in black-and-white.
Not every older television show is "Perry Mason."
True but you still won't find many people under 50 watching this stuff. I like the dozen or so episodes I've seen of Twilight Zone though.
How many of the prime advertising demographic even know what "The Twilight Zone" or "I Love Lucy Are"? Of those, how many would actuyally pay to watch it?
This is an absolute gem of a channel. Glad I found it
What annoyed me about streaming Is the fact I can't buy a copy of the shows, I am not interested in renting (which streaming basically is), nor can expect to have internet all the time, and there are shows I want to watch on multiple different streams (and I can't afford to pay for that many).
Yes this! I would much rather own my content then rent it. For instance I own the office and friends. When it started disappearing off of streaming services I didn't care because I owned it. I would purchase something like stranger things in a heartbeat. Honestly most of the shows on these platforms aren't even as good as content done by independent creators on TH-cam. In a perfect world I would much rather get the first episode a series for free, buy the season if I liked it and then support independent creators instead. Force companies to actually make good content consistently otherwise they lose serious money.
Pirate bay
@@mpforeverunlimited 1337x is better these days
At least MOST things are still available in physical format, which usually comes with a 'streaming/download' code.
Currently this is still the case even for stuff like HBO MAX, but not sure if AMAZON PRIME is bothering with the BluRay revenue stream, since I assume PRIME VIDEO is just a 'free advertising' for AMAZON PRIME NEXT DAY SHIPPING...
They don’t want you to own anything. Not even yourself.
And the absolute worst part is don't expect any home media release for anything produced on the streaming platforms.
Stranger Things got Blue Rays but that's the exception.
Paramount has been releasing some of their Paramount+ shows on home media, so they're on top of that
There is some Korba Kai seasons, the Pixar Diseny+ films, and Star Trek Picard (shit show) on physical media
That's what scares me. Imagine in the future whenever a streaming service goes down and all of their original content goes down with it and ends up becoming lost media. It's like what happened with quibi, but with very few physical releases being made expect to see a lot of lost media in the future.
I like Hulu because it has Futurama, King of the Hill, and The X-files. Takes me back to my childhood when I would watch them every Sunday evening. And they are just great shows.
the sheer amount of streaming services means that any content people actually want is strewn about between too many different services.
Because people don’t want to buy 5 services, this means that no service will prevail.
If a streaming service wants to be on top, they need to consolidate all content into one place.
That’s actually a bad thing if all entertainment companies merged together
@@mr.x2567 it's called a monopoly
@@mr.x2567 Alternate idea. You'd have one open platform everyone could upload content to and subscription fees would be distributed based on a percentage of watch time of content.
Who would actually run such a platform is beyond me.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 *Sherman Anti-Trust Act wants to know your location*
You mean like CABLE and/or SATTELITE TV companies, except streaming online instead of spending a fortune launching your own satellites!
This actually WAS what Netflix essentially was, and I guess once the unprofitable streamers are finally put out of the misery, then where ONE 'network' wins, and all of the 'losers' end up licensing content to them...
I've found that Tubi TV, Pluto TV, IMDB TV, and a whole score of free-with-ads streaming services have just as good of a selection as the paid streaming services.
*At that point, why bother paying for streaming?*
TBH, I watch Tubi tv for more than the paid streaming services I have thanks to its vast amount of content.
It's free if you don't value your time. You're paying by having to watch ads. Frankly the monthly payment is a better deal.
Tubi has some weird stuff on it, I found a “Happy Sciene” animated film. “Happy Science” is a Japanese cult. Highly recommend mother’s basement reviews of their films. They’re pretty insane.
I hate that format but honestly it's what I see a lot of people gravitating to, it's just too expensive to subscribe to multiple paid services for a handful of shows or movies they like, assuming said services even have it in their library after a year.
because I hate ads and I can afford $20 a month.
Not only does Hulu have part of the Fox family like Disney+, but TubiTV is also Fox owned. So you've got 3 streaming services for Fox.
netflix: shot itself in the foot with an m1911
HBOMax: shot itself in the foot with a shotgun
I rather just collect blu-rays and DVDs at this point honestly.
I just download digital rips of DVD's and Blu-Rays for free. I don't want plastic discs taking up space that cost money.
@@Magpie1701 where do you get your sauce
@@presidentcherry6193 123movies, yts torrent, kickass, 1337x
Id be open to buying more DvDs/Blu Ray discs if they werent so ridiculously overpriced. Even digital purchases of movies/shows is absurdly expensive. Should be 50 cents an episode tops.
Regionally it gets confusing too. As a Brit, I just found out we don’t have Hulu. Also we have Prey, family guy and American dad on Disney+ and I had no idea certain regions didn’t as well despite hearing constantly about things like Australian Netflix being empty by comparison
I dunno about Australian Netflix but i know New Zealand one is particularly bad. We have a bunch of local streaming platforms who bought the rights to popular content straight out of Netflix.
Gets even more confusing when we also have situations where shows are double published (bbc,channel 4 shows available on Netflix) or seasons of a show split between two services.
I do have to say Disney+ has a massive catalogue in the uk.
Same for India we have Disney+hotstar which has all of hotstar content but doesn't have the complete Disney library,
And gets so frustrating when I boot up and old show from my childhood only to see that the third season is not uploaded.
Hulu is US only and outside of the US, The Disney content that's on Hulu in the US, is on Disney+ outside of the US, so not just in UK
Star Trek Discovery was on Prime Video on anywhere in the world except the USA. When Netflix removed The Office, it was still available anywhere in the world except the USA. It's such a web of mess.
On the topic of Hulu in Europe, Canada, New Zealand and Singapore they just added it to Disney + for no extra cost under the label “Star”. As far as I’m aware only the USA requires extra payment for Hulu.
You say it's no longer the "golden age of streaming" but it's still better than cable and a VCR. When I was a kid the idea of watching shows on demand was absurd, the only thing on demand was pay-per-view movies and my Dad would only want to pay for that once or twice a year.
I wish the studios would invest more in theatrical exhibition at a time when theatergoing is more affordable than ever if you have A List or something similar.
Gotta say, I’m a big fan of Hulu just for its live tv option. Being able to use my Nintendo Switch as a cable box is pretty sweet
The way you describe time slots makes so much sense to me. There is only so many shows that could exist on TV at any given time so the amount of importance and weight a good or legendary show could have on how you grew up and what you found interest in was way different. I feel like my generation was probably one of the last ones that'll ever experience media in that way since everybody now just can consume whatever they want and the level of attachment to shows is smaller as a result.
I was a child when cable started declining in popularity and even I could feel it as Disney and Nickelodeon got more and more desperate. I really liked Defunctland’s video about the Disney bumper jingle where he goes into the eras of early 2000s children cable television channels and the steep decline in the 2010s. The special episode of icarly with Fred for example was a cultural moment for me and kids my age that EVERYONE tuned in for and were taking about the next day. Stuff like that just won’t happen anymore as the media we consume gets more and more niche. I’m sure this also has a negative effect on peoples empathy for others in our political climate where you can cater your viewing experience so heavily to your own views
May everyone remember this: the one thing that killed streaming was GREED. That said, even if other companies hadn't launched their own streaming services and let Netflix have all the market share, it wouldn't guarantee a good outcome for everyone. Netflix itself has a lot of problems outside of the US: shows with forced inclusivity that makes zero sense to audiences outside of the US, cancelling successful shows after 1 or 2 seasons, interesting shows constantly disappearing from the platform due to licensing, etc. - the fact that they cracked down on shared accounts was just the cherry on top.
These streaming wars remind me of the dominoes of alliances that turned a Austro-Serbian conflict into the Great War-they all jumped into the streaming ship because their competitors were doing so, fragmenting the market shares into smaller and smaller pieces for even relative winners. Everyone went for broke trying to Schlieffen Plan each other, leading instead to a war of content attrition. The only apparent winners are going to be the ones with the least to lose or have the deepest pockets: Hulu’s low operating costs, Netflix’s head start and reserves of shows, and Disney+ is quite possibly too big to lose.
Peacock and Paramount Plus and almost all the others will be the Romania and Bulgaria, entering the war late and too small to withstand the attrition. Amazon Prime is probably America, where they’re not actually all-in like France/HBO Max so they’ll come out well.
Pretty much all of Hulu's shows are on Disney Plus here in the UK, mainly as not only does Hulu not exist here, they even IP block people outside the US from watching it.
Netflix also lost all their BBC shows like Top Gear and Doctor Who to BritBox here.
When did Neflix ever have Doctor Who and Top Gear?
@@Carewolf I think it was regional. PRetty sure I saw at least SOME SEASONS of Top Gear UK on Netflix in Canada. But I remember it was ONLY like seasons 5+ for some reason...
And the OTHER problem even with PHYSICAL MEDIA are things like MUSICAL RIGHTS issues. I'm pretty sure that ALL of the TOP GEAR DVD releases REPLACED the GREAT CLASSIC ROCK/POP music featured in the original broadcasts, with 'Generic Up-Temp Music' for the DVD releases... Issue being that they couldn't afford the MUSIC COPYRIGHTS, which were initially covered 'free' since the show was on the BBC, which already owned musical copyrights for ORIGINAL BROADCAST...
And it's AMAZING how much GOOD MUSIC can improve a program! It's just BETTER hearing Pink Floyd or Radiohead in the background than imitation 'elevator music'...
@@Carewolf They definitely did. At least here in the UK.
@@Carewolf netflix US had doctor who back around 2014-2015. I remember watching it first on there.
I dunno why but the commercials for BritBox always got me to giggle. Something about a service dedicated to British content only just tickled me.
This is exactly one of the reasons why I buy physical media
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@@ericcartmannWhat software do you use to rip DVD and Blu-ray disks?
@@ericcartmann PHYSICAL MEDIA IS FOREVER BUY LASERDISC
AND THE WINNER IS..... the pirate bay
Since the pandemic started, The Walt Disney Company has chosen to release every Pixar film exclusively on Disney+.
People complained. So, Disney made "Lightyear" available in theatres before the film arrived on Disney+ 45 days later.
In reality, announcing a 45-day window to people who are likely already subscribed to Disney+ is not a good way to get them to spend additional money to see the film in theatres.
Most people are able to wait a few weeks.
Streaming was at its peak in 2017, HD netflix was 9.99 a month and Hulu was about the same. If the prices didn't literally double, I wouldn't have switched to other... certain websites lol
1995 to 2015 I'd say was the Golden Age of the internet. That sweet spot where it was a wild west of content made with nearly pure motivations of creativity and very humble and small scale profit incentives.
Once corporate smelled money in the water from stuff like Netflix and Google owned TH-cam, it was over. The Internet is getting dragged down from this novel space of fresh ideas to be more and more in line with what the dinosaurs of the media industry understand.
Remember when Homestar Runner and Ask a Ninja was the hottest shit you could watch on the internet? That's the golden age. Not because of the quality of those shows, but because of the genuine, grass roots creativity behind it.
We need to go after the capitalists ruining our world before they take everything from us.
Totally agreed.
The lemming class of people should never be allowed to touch things as they are corporate drones who want to throw money to have something put the rest of the way onto their lap with minimal effort, it's why the most shocking or outwardly "Weird" subcultures have thrived untainted because there's no way to make them marketable.
god i remember coming back from school in like kindergarten or 1st/2nd grade to play wheely on some ass online games website
Very agree. Then everything start to become greedy, stupid, and uncreative in unhealthy competition for getting more profiit since 2020
My mom always makes fun of my younger cousins for there lack of interest in cable TV and to be honest this just proves it’s becoming obsolete. I sometimes struggle finding shows that are even on cable TV anyways. Either way this was a good video and opened up a interesting discussion!
Ask them why isn’t mtv or vh1 showing music?
The PirateBay is the winner. Biggest catalogue of movies and shows for a great price. Clear winner here
I think Netflix will survive. I mean they started with DVDs, started making their own content when studios started taking their stuff off, and now they're doing an ad supported version. They continue to evolve so I think they'll survive. Also people like their original content like Arcane, Cobra Kai, Squid Games, etc. Hulu will survive, however I think Disney will eventually buy all the shares and merge it into Disney+. Why have two streaming services? I'm not sure if the smaller, newer streaming services will survive, but who knows. I think some of them will merge. There will probably be 4 major streaming services like how there was 4 major networks.
Fun fact: Cobra Kai was originally a TH-cam Premium Original Series before they moved to Netflix.
Firstly, the kind of advertising that these streaming services should be focusing on is self promoting the shows that they already have. Much of Netlflix's actions as of late seem to stem from thinking the original content they invested in such as their animated projects, many of which have been cancelled now, have been underperforming because not enough people are watching them and as such are not profitable even though they are very much at fault for not properly promoting said original projects along with the movies and shows they got licensed to stream on their service.
Secondly, another reason why the streaming era is a bit of a mess right now is because of bull headed companies looking at Netflix's various successes and deciding they were going to want their very on piece of the pie and started saturating the market with all of these streaming services. All the while not comprehending that the entire point of people transitioning from cable to Streaming was so they no longer had to deal with all the problems of cable and as such these jokers are now trying to turn Streaming into the new Cable.
How the heck are aspiring content creators and amazing projects ever going to get the attention they deserve when these jerks keep spreading the attention of the masses even thinner than it already is.
A lot of their animated projects are also just . . . not very good. I mean, some are great. Arcane is amazing. A lot of the licensed anime (which is I know, technically not internally produced) has been pretty solid.
But stuff like Bigmouth?
-Shudder-
We're currently in the "Sega VS Nintendo console war" stage of streaming services development.
We just watch and wait for a majority of the competition to fall like Atari - and eventually Sega did - before the victors will emerge and the market will settle.
The vast majority of the 80,000 titles on Hulu are not owned by The Walt Disney Company.
Hulu mostly licenses content from third parties and aggregates it in one place.
Then, Hulu is made available as a package with Disney+ and ESPN+, for a discount.
It would be in Disney's interests to direct audiences to Disney-owned content, on Disney+, first and, then, to offer Hulu's third-party content as an add-on that expands the overall offering.
The same is true for ESPN+.
These two services, ultimately, should be add-ons that Disney+ members are not forced to buy.
The Walt Disney Company should move almost all of its owned content to Disney+ and make Disney+ memberships more of a prerequisite to getting access to Hulu and ESPN+.
Truly an inspirational video from a modern philosopher of our times
How would you know? It came out a minute ago
@@recitationtohear gut feeling (I wanted the comment to be early)
I hope renting stores come back. Quite a few have survived in my town so this may be their oportunity to be reborn, just like how the crash of TV has revitalized radio shows. I really hope physical makes a comeback, or a digital store kind of like Steam, I hate streaming services. I really want to have these shows on my fucking shelves and display them.
What I mean is, Apple make a physical version of Prehistoric Planet, please. That show needs to be on my shelf alongside my old Walking with Dinosaurs disk that doesn't even work anymore.
Has your walking with dinosaurs dvd have disc rot?
@@SlapstickGenius23 I'm not sure what disk rot is, but a lot of the episodes get stuck at a certain point because of how many times I have reproduced them. Unsurprisingly, New Blood and Cruel Sea still work fine as those two were the scariest for me as a kid.
Little known fact: Steam is also a game streaming service. You own NOTHING on Steam, it's just as licensed as streaming content.
@@Nala15-Artist True, but it's diferent since on practice almost anything is removed from Steam and it doesn't cost anything to the owner of the content nor Steam to maintain it's existence (except for multiplayer games and strange decisions). So there just isn't an incentive to remove stuff from it or prevent the access to stuff on it. I mean, they could, but they don't gain anything with it and loose both reputation and trust.
It's not a streaming service. It's a licencing service. The diference seems subtle but it's a huge deal because it doesn't cost money to maintain (well, except for Steam itself, but they are drowning in money and I don't see that situation changing soon).
I'm more amazed by the fact that people are watching TV shows in 4 bloody k. I watch most of my shows in 480p on BBC iPlayer, and honestly, I can barely tell the difference between anything is above 720p.
It's a classic story of killing the goose that laid the golden eggs.
These studios had a pretty sweet deal with Netflix. Netflix would assume all the costs and responsibility of hosting your content and pay you for the right to do so.
Practically a license to print money if you have a big backlog of films and TV shows.
But it just wasn't enough for them. They got dollar signs in their eyes and have demolished the whole thing.
Instead of a couple successful streaming platforms, we have a dozen that are struggling to stay above water.
Another thing to keep in mind is "Hulu with Live TV."
My mom still want to watch her cable TV channels but I'm tired of dealing with the cable box and the much higher price increases with traditional cable. So for the same price of a basic Spectrum cable TV package, we get Hulu on-demand, Hulu with Live TV and cloud DVR, and recently Disney+ and ESPN got added with the $5 hike.
No need for a pesky cable box or having to call just to cancel or add channels. We're subscribed to it just like any online streaming service.
You get normal cable with Hulu?
Live TV can be had on cell phones (eg Samsung TV) or for free with an OTA antennae.
I've been a Netflix subscriber since 2003 when it was a DVD home delivery service. I remember when they introduced streaming in 2007/08 and it was free with your subscription. And then it was an $1/mo. extra for streaming on top of DVDs. And now it's $20/mo. for the top-tier package with no DVDs at all. It's hard to believe I've been paying Netflix every month for nearly 20 years. 🤣🤣🤣
Interesting points all around. In the end steaming will be the norm. I, a 25 year old, have not watched traditional television for about 15 years now. The lack of ads, a pause button, and being able to watch what I wanted when I wanted made all the other hastle worth it for me. I relied on mainly on TH-cam and sketchy sites that pirated their content back when I was in my tweens and early teens; then I started to use streaming services once they became more viable. Regardless of a golden age or not, cable television is not here to stay. It's taking longer than I thought it would to die, but it WILL die, it's just a matter of how much longer it has to live.
So you gave up on piracy and went backwards? Strange. Paying for the same media you can download for free just as easily.
@@Magpie1701 Nah, I'm doing family share with family and friends. Otherwise I still pirate like the King of the Pirates.
I cant imagine why anyone uses Television anymore, there are just so many ads!!! When I go to my grandma's house, it's like half commercials.
It will all come full circle when someone comes up with the idea to bundle services together in a new model called "Cable".
It's so weird how HBO Max just deleted their own content. Anyone able to explain that one?
from what I heard, the merger put them in debt and they didn't want to continue paying residuals to as many creators. So they removed a bunch of shows they felt people wouldn't miss (mostly animated shows, because nobody watches animation amirite) to avoid continuing to pay the creators.
tldr: money
@@Commenter839 What a scummy move. These guys suck.
I wish Netflix became the Steam of streaming and I'm sure they wished so too. And while I mentioned Stream, did you notice a lot of video game publishers are pushing their game launchers these days. But Steam won't budge.
ehh, with the constant torrent of quality games that epic gives out for free plus their ownership of fortnite the epic games launcher is a decent contender
@@juiceoverflow pftttt
@@shyguy85 got any actual response or are you just gonna dribble your food on your lips?
@@juiceoverflow you're crazy if you think people care about the epic games launcher.
@@shyguy85 people clearly care about the epic game launcher
Who will win the streaming wars? The Pirate Bay
Pirate Bay is the worst site for pirating
The reason tv won’t die is because cable company’s will force you to buy it if you want that banger internet
I didn't even realize I had Prime video until about a year after I started my Amazon Prime account. Glad I did though. Good Omens, Invincible, The Boys, Vinland Saga, and Reacher have all been enjoyable shows for me
I remember back in 2016 when I used to watch this guy for his history content. I was at that age where all you want to do is know more useless facts than everyone, and oh boy I did. Although now I see that my strange obsession with WW2 and the Cold War was just silly and most, if not all, the information was stupid and useless. Now Cody is producing the same strange and useless information that I LOVE.
Also, why did you change his name?
6:20 Ah yes, the "Perry Mason" moment.
Honestly I knew very well that Netflix despite the struggles would still remain King and even believe they would make a better recovery than Disney itself. Sure I didn't like some of the choices they make and they are still a corporate business that needs to make profits to pay off their Dept, but I never really wanted to quit the service despite others saying they would and even though they are a big company they are nothing compared to the other services with even bigger companies backing so I knew they have to listen to the consumers one of these days.
So true.
We pay for TH-cam Premium cause makes life so much easier for TV and mobile device (when out and about) and I actually do use the music service that comes with it.
But only service we do pay for content in our house is Netflix and for the top package too, cause they still have shows we watch and like!
We are heavy Amazon Prime user for delivery so the free streaming with it is non consequential.
I upgrade my Samsung phone every year and they keep throwing free 12 month Disney+ at me, so I always have it but if Samsung stops the promo I'm not going out of my way to pay for Disney+.
I also have iPhone and that came with Apple TV for free, the moment the promo finishes I'm cancelling cause I not bother to pay for it.
For everything else that gets blocked behind Cock&Bull streaming service, we sail the high seas!
Quite agree. While people say how bad Netflix is and I agree, at the end I'm still prefer it more often.
Netflix had it right at the start. Everyone else trying to get a piece of the pie. If Netflix can hold on long enough to buy out competition they can take over again. All the subscriptions can over take the cable bill you were trying to get rid of.
4:07 *cries in Batman and Star Trek*
10:42 *hulks out in exclusive collectibles*
"Whoever wins, we lose."
Multi-billion dollar corporations deciding how to market selling the same crap again using nostalgia and pop culture shows: *+*
I remember back when Netflix had all the old shows I wanted to watch while smoking a bowl and eating bad food.
Now that is Hulu for me.
I’m not saying every streaming service needs to cover this niche, just that this is the only thing I care about for TV content.
Yeah I don't see Hulu going under ever. They're the legacy channel.
Weed isn't a personality
@@anentiresleeveoforeos2087 neither is being pointless contrarian and negative 🤷♀️
10:30 My dude suddenly turned into Mother’s Basement
1-day shipping for Prime? Does this guy live right next to an Amazon warehouse in Dallas or something?
The problem with streaming services is exclusivity. I'm sometimes thinking of an interconnector streaming service that would pay the services themselves, but IDK how to negotiate that
baiscly you want somehting like Steam or GoG but for streams
🔖Exclusive rights is causing a HUGE problem in the industry and very few people realize it. Compare it to music where any radio station from Thailand, Belgium, or Australia can play Oasis songs and you don't have region locks. For instance, Star Trek Discovery was on Prime Video on anywhere in the world except the USA. When Netflix removed The Office, it was still available anywhere in the world except the USA. It's such a web of mess.
When Netflix first started I was amazed at how much content they had, nowadays it reminds me more of the Walmart bargain bin. At least I'll always have my (free movie no virus 100% working) download sites.
I think the streaming platforms are still sorting themselves out. Maybe what HBO Max did will become the norm. Perhaps the platforms will periodically shed content to keep diverting people from their main content. If streaming platforms introduce widespread advertising then expect this to happen a lot more. With the smaller platforms, their long-term success will depend greatly on the health of their corporate parent who often will make decisions that are not in the best interest of an entertainment division.
I remember when Netflix first started streaming, if you wanted to watch a movie, you'd have to select a DVD as if you were going to rent it and them click the streaming option, but if you wanted to watch a TV show, since this was back in the age of "lets split one seasons into five volumes" you would have to search for all the volumes and switch DVDs when you wanted to go to the next one, and sometimes they didn't even have all of the volumes, let alone the entire show
Disney+ has a sort of tvma version pretty much everywhere other than the US with "star" which offers basically what you described
"Begun, the Streaming Wars have."
- Yoda, 'Corporate Wars: Attack of the Streaming Services'
I don't think we've seen the "golden age of streaming" yet. This has been more like the gold rush age. Lots of quick money from low hanging fruit. Once we see where the dust settles, there is going to be a real fight for viewers and that will require quality content on a consolidated number of services. I'm also thinking we are going to see me FreeVee style commercial supported services. No monthly so it has no barrier to entry.
...Good!
I actually do not mind advertisements and do not understand the animosity but I personally believe that if a streamer must have ads, it should be FREE.
Comcast did not "distribute" "Seinfeld."
NBC just licensed the show for broadcast in the United States.
I appreciate the joke of using the it’s always sunny friends intro when talking about it
I see the point about Disney double dipping. But a hypothetical what if: What if Disney+ was the ONLY primary streaming service, as in they buy out the rest of hulu and comcast and corner the market of media. They would quite literally run a monopoly of media.
ill just go to their office and steal their servers and storage stuff and plunder everything like piracy but like irl ill put it all on a boat as the cannons fire
Att rdon’t the
@@doricashu4984 yees
It was bad enough when Disney was allowed to buy out 20th Century Fox...
Please God no
I think that same thing that happened with online game stores will happen with streaming services.
At one point every game company had it store, like EA Origin, but now all those games are returning to Steam or Epic store.
steam and GoG are the only ones worth using store wise GoG for its lack of DRM steam for well eveything it offers and its Huge library
One of my griped with traditional television is that shows never end, and if they do, it feels like they suddenly woke up one day to the news that they were getting cansled. So in traditional television, there are so few good endings to a show, and in storytelling, the ending is half the experience, if the ending suck, the show sucks.
Its here i am hopeful in the future of streaming, since they only need quantity of shows, and the quality is a bonus, if you are only getting 12 episodes, you can plan around that, and get a good show, take Terminal List that just came out, it has a beginning, an middle, and an ending, and its a good show to boot.
There is a time and a place for a comfort show where you can just pull up an episode and chew down on it, wihtout having to engage in the story as a whole, but that isnt who i am, and that isnt why i watch TV, am here for a story, and i dont wana slog trough 540 episodes of mediocre filler to get to the conclusion.
But then agen, am not gona subscribe to 50 different streaming services to only see the good once, so i guess that is their loss.
Yeah, streaming and cable services should produce series that will end, no matter how popular, with X amount of episodes.
And unpopular series, that must be canceled, should be contracted to have Y amount of episodes to conclude their stories.
One of the thing I found on Amazon Prime is that some of the movie and show require you to have another subscription from another stream service to watch it. Another thing they do is that they made the unknown movies or shows no longer prime meaning if you want to watch them now you'll have to buy all of the episodes even though the reason people watched them was because they part of prime.
Pirates will win streaming wars.
I was willing to pay for 2-3 services and I feel like most of share that mentality. I’f I had Hulu and Amazon and my girlfriend had Netflix and Disney then things were good. But now it’s just too much. Let’s just say I got so tired of having to google where my favorite shows went to that I no longer pay for any of them and still get all the content I want.
Major companies: We can make all the money that Netflix and Hulu is making!
Average consumer: *YO-HO-YO-HO A PIRATE'S LIVE FOR ME!*
8:52 isn’t that what Ryan did in the office when he got arrested for fraud? Counting one purchase as more than one, though he did it by repeating sales through his website.
The pirates sure will win
It’s a good thing I still buy movies and TV on Blu-rays and Prime Video.
I always see people complain about how expensive it's getting to subscribe to so many services but like, there's no reason you have to be subscribed to all of them at the same time. All you have to do is figure out which shows you want to watch, then subscribe to just one or two services each month as you make your way through that list.