Big Five Airline? How a Merged JetBlue-Spirit Could Compete | WSJ

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  • American, United, Delta and Southwest are often called the big four U.S. airlines. JetBlue’s tie-up with Spirit would make it the fifth largest domestic carrier. This deal is an ‘’acquisition about assets’ and would increase the airline’s pilots, planes and seat capacity, supercharging its growth and accelerating its plan by years.
    WSJ’s Alison Sider and a former JetBlue executive explain how the combined airline could compete.
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  • @DeltaEcho303
    @DeltaEcho303 ปีที่แล้ว +2473

    Spirit should sell their old seats to the Department of Defense and Homeland Security as "enhanced interrogation" devices.

  • @SecretCollage
    @SecretCollage ปีที่แล้ว +864

    I really hope this doesn't screw with JetBlue's service quality. They are the best I've flown. And I've flown on all mentioned airlines.

    • @egolono10
      @egolono10 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I’m curious as to what routes do you fly? Jetblue was very reliable in the past but its flights to the carribean (specifically the DR) have been a nightmare since covid. I'm talking flights regularly delayed for 3+ hours and families sleeping in at the airport for days waiting on a flight out.
      It got so bad that the local government launched an investigation into Jetblue and announced plans to start it's own psuedo-airline because Jetblue's poor performance has hurt their tourism.

    • @VoteForBukele
      @VoteForBukele ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Southwest absorbed ValuJet back in the day. Southwest kept their cattle car model. So jet blue will probably stay the same.

    • @mr.castle
      @mr.castle ปีที่แล้ว +13

      JetBlue has the worst rating from international travelers.

    • @sonya405
      @sonya405 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This comment was made by a robot

    • @markeithjackson3401
      @markeithjackson3401 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree I've taken united, Alaska, delta, and American and I've had the best experience with jet blue easily

  • @thomasburke7995
    @thomasburke7995 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Dont let the article fool you.. it's not about people or planes .. this purchase is simply for JETBLUE to obtain gate space and landing slots and travel lanes.. the major destinations are full up and .. it's the simplest way to get your foot in the door.

    • @kayj9006
      @kayj9006 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yea, I'm surprised they didn't mention that! A big part of Jetblue acquiring Spirit was for their routes and to expand their share of popular destinations.

    • @gustavlantz
      @gustavlantz ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly, I agree. This is about slot to major hubs where Jet Blue does not. It's not about Pilots or planes, it's about network growth primarily.

    • @A22DNAL
      @A22DNAL ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Eh, I think gate space and routes are way down the list of importance here. This article called it right: pilots and planes. Without those, where you gonna fly?! Jetblue has a really lame network so while that will be a bonus to get some of the routes that Spirit serves, gates and landing slots will have to be given up. Hopefully they can make some money off that.

    • @thomasburke7995
      @thomasburke7995 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@A22DNAL do you even u understand that routes and gate/landing slots are critical to an airlines bottom line.. all aircraft have a break point.. all airlines need 100% capacity on both legs to make money.. FedEx spent 950 million to purchase tigers .. they wanted the routes to China and Pacific they did not need the planes or pilots.

    • @A22DNAL
      @A22DNAL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thomasburke7995 Like…I…Said…way down the line of importance to a airline like JetBlue. If their paramount concern was routes and gates, they could’ve had them sans merger/buyout. They tried that. THEY DIDN’T HAVE THE PLANES TO OULL IT OFF. Hence why they went so hard on swiping Spirit out from under Frontier. Never said they weren’t needed…just not what they needed more with this merger. Look up all the routes they’ve had to cut service in B/C THEY DON’T HAVE ENOUGH PLANES!

  • @ShyFly1000
    @ShyFly1000 ปีที่แล้ว +521

    Jet blue could only improve spirit. I am pretty sure not much could make spirit worse.

    • @driven01
      @driven01 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So true

    • @vitaly6312
      @vitaly6312 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Perhaps them being acquired by an African or Indian airline could make them worse, but not much else.

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spirit would disappear. The stations likely stay. JetBlue would finally solve its old A320 replacement problem (JetBlue runs up hours on planes like no one else worldwide).

    • @sharppig
      @sharppig ปีที่แล้ว +9

      any merger is bad for the consumer, good for the company. there’s no mom and pop airlines, only the big players. Would you want there to be only 1 cell company or many to choose from?

    • @Dexter037S4
      @Dexter037S4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vitaly6312 Ryanair probably

  • @Lords1997
    @Lords1997 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Personally love JetBlue; I find they treat everyone equally with the amenities ranging from TVs for every seat, to better more modern/comfortable seating, as well as a wide range of food.
    As a New Yorker I’m also supportive since the company is from here.

    • @sharppig
      @sharppig ปีที่แล้ว +4

      their company is in delaware like most companies 💀

    • @NickCBax
      @NickCBax ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess you haven’t heard of Mint, which means that there isn’t an equality of product on the plane.

    • @chantplug
      @chantplug ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NickCBax mint flies to like 4 routes

    • @NickCBax
      @NickCBax ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chantplug JetBlue is expanding Mint’s reach. It’s getting added to more routes.

    • @davidperry4013
      @davidperry4013 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I flew JetBlue before and the seats are very comfortable and love the IFE.

  • @AJ-bi6ns
    @AJ-bi6ns ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Interesting take with “big four”, always thought it was big “three” with AA, United and Delta. Southwest is a middle ground between mainline and budget carriers

    • @JPPSrules
      @JPPSrules ปีที่แล้ว +48

      It’s Big 3. Southwest does not really have an international presence

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      There used to be a "hateful eight" of Pan Am, TWA, Delta, American, United, Continental, Northwest, Eastern...
      now it's just a bunch of banks

    • @vinchenzomarchiavafa962
      @vinchenzomarchiavafa962 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@visionist7 those who truly know the airline industry know all the money is in the loyalty programs and credit cards

    • @FireLordJohn3191
      @FireLordJohn3191 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. I don’t consider southwest a major carrier.

    • @phantom1100
      @phantom1100 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@JPPSrules If you’re flying domestic Southwest often has more direct flights than anyone else at least at my airport.

  • @Leuel48Fan
    @Leuel48Fan ปีที่แล้ว +188

    If JetBlue can increase seat quality and flight experience while keeping Spirit prices, this can be a great thing. Reminds me of TMobile's acquisition for MetroPCS... they grandfathered in all the plans but network speed and quality drastically improved switching from Metro's CDMA network to TMo's GSM 4G/5G networks.

    • @malikbarnett7243
      @malikbarnett7243 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      How else do you think JetBlue can "increase seat quality"? They already offer free WiFi, in-seat power outlets and the most legroom in coach of any US airline.

    • @Leuel48Fan
      @Leuel48Fan ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@malikbarnett7243 I mean increase seat quality of the Spirit planes they aquire if it goes thru. That sounds nice, I've actually never flown JetBlue as they don't really serve my market.

    • @adrian33161
      @adrian33161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@malikbarnett7243 I’ve flown JetBlue and American and there’s little difference in their seating quality.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spirit prices? No.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@adrian33161 That’s factually false. JetBlue has more pitch (32”) in economy. No American plane offers more than 31”. It also doesn’t equip its planes with thin-line seats as American does and JetBlue’s seats are at least 18” wide. American’s narrowest seats are 17” wide.

  • @Mechaneer
    @Mechaneer ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Everyone knows Spirit is garbage and JetBlue is pretty good. I imagine mostly good things will come of this, and although I flew Spirit once and would never do it again, I will try JetBlue after the merger.

    • @meRyanP
      @meRyanP ปีที่แล้ว

      Spirit is garbage yet they fill more planes than jetBlue and jetBlue is massively overpaying for them out of desperation. If regulators don't approve this deal jetBlue is toast, they can't grow to the level they need to and will become unviable long term. Spirit will be fine in the space they currently occupy.

    • @EternalWanderlust
      @EternalWanderlust ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah, but fairs will be much higher. It’s like comparing apples and oranges, there’s a reason Spirit’s product is so terrible and that’s so their tickets can stay cheap. This merger won’t make JetBlue’s flights cheaper.

    • @Mike072385
      @Mike072385 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jetblue has gone downhill too

    • @jaimequinones3852
      @jaimequinones3852 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mike072385 I fly about 20-25 trips annually, I’ve flown all the airlines in USA. The worst, of course, is SPIRIT! I doubt JBL will adopt the terrible style of SPIRIT. Of course, prices will go up, and the yellow Spirit will vanish, I hope, won’t re-encarnaste ever again!

    • @wafflemon1858
      @wafflemon1858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EternalWanderlust Even Spirits prices have gone in recent years due to the inflation, etc and yet their product remains as garbage as ever.

  • @Thebreakdownshow1
    @Thebreakdownshow1 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    It’s actually good to see that there is decent competition with in the air line industry.

    • @saahiliyer11
      @saahiliyer11 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Is there? Spirit is supposed to be the budget airline disrupter bringing more competition that was going to drive down fares. Now we’re seeing more consolidation and JetBlue’s changes will certainly mean no more airfares as low as Spirit.

    • @cheboyard
      @cheboyard ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saahiliyer11 no, spirit was making it impossible for the other low cost carriers to keep up

    • @jatterhog
      @jatterhog ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@cheboyard which is why they’re needed. Ryanair, easyJet and WizzAir keep all the European legacy carriers in check.

    • @cheboyard
      @cheboyard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jatterhog not quite. Frontier, allegiant and others were so much smaller in comparison and with such a smaller market share to where they really wouldn’t be able to compete, none but frontier at least. Removing spirit will mean more competitive routes and prices from the other low cost carriers

    • @Mike072385
      @Mike072385 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Frontier will be the dominant ultra low cost carrier now.

  • @tonpetitami
    @tonpetitami ปีที่แล้ว +82

    When I moved to the US there were Continental, Northwest, AirTran, US Airways and Virgin America. Wonder how many would be left when I move away.

    • @NickCBax
      @NickCBax ปีที่แล้ว +17

      There corpses are all around, just in different colors.
      And if you’ve been around the US for 40 years you’d see a whole lot more.. ValuJet, People Express, Piedmont, PSA.. The industry has been consolidating for a long time.

    • @jatterhog
      @jatterhog ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NickCBax let alone Pan American and Trans World, the most legendary US carriers

    • @NickCBax
      @NickCBax ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jatterhog Eh, I think PSA is more legendary than PanAm. Lots of marketing and cowboy piloting..
      And TWA.. EEEK.

    • @jatterhog
      @jatterhog ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@NickCBax I’ll give you TWA, but no way is PSA more legendary than Pan Am

    • @NickCBax
      @NickCBax ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jatterhog Awww! Come on the smiling planes and the customized L1011 with a bar below the main cabin floor?
      Not to mention that many of its practices made it to Southwest Airlines, then to Ryanair and just about every LCC and ULCC on the planet...

  • @cubsfan910
    @cubsfan910 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Sell a $19 ticket, you get a $19 passenger

  • @cigarjefe
    @cigarjefe ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I’ve flown Spirit several times. No frills and you actually get to your destination in the same time as other planes.

    • @YukariAkiyama
      @YukariAkiyama ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I flew spirit twice. It sucked the first time, delayed for a long time, other passengers sucked, and it was very dirty. The second time (Nov. 2022) was okay. I got what I payed for, and it was a 45 minute flight anyway. Clean enough for the price

  • @arnulfovasquez7583
    @arnulfovasquez7583 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    If you want more pilots, how about investing more on institutions with piloting programs? 🧐

    • @benl.8100
      @benl.8100 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I feel like with the 1500 hr ATP requirement and a bad economy, the pilot shortage will just get worse imo.

    • @justcommenting4981
      @justcommenting4981 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol. Investing in the future instead of complaining workers are making too much as they finally escape years of debt or years of entry barriers? Do you even management? Do you even economics? Can you even capitalism?!

    • @canadianaviator
      @canadianaviator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s free to become a pilot in Canada

    • @kb_100
      @kb_100 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@canadianaviator what?

    • @canadianaviator
      @canadianaviator ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kb_100 U don’t pay anything in CanadaZ

  • @KanishQQuotes
    @KanishQQuotes ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Spirit has a true no nonsense approach.
    It works well for short distance.
    Plus their safety record is great

  • @TwoNote
    @TwoNote ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is an issue of survival for JetBlue. Open slots at major airports is limited, so organic growth is hard. In the end, it is a story of eat or get eaten.
    It will be interesting to see how wages, for employees and the polar opposite cultures of these two airlines unravel.

  • @cubitme
    @cubitme ปีที่แล้ว +47

    As a traveller to the US, Jetblue is solid. I don't feel "intimidated" compare to AA & Spirit, where I constantly feel they are doing me a favour to get me where I want to go. Jetblue and Southwest are setting good benchmarks and I hope they continue to improve customer experience in the US air travel.

    • @rmx33383
      @rmx33383 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flying Boeings is not a good benchmark.

    • @legwearlife
      @legwearlife ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rmx33383 Boeing is going to be around for a long time, whether anyone likes it or not. The shtick is old…

    • @rmx33383
      @rmx33383 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@legwearlife Yeah you know just 381 dead and trying to pay the gov off to cover it up nbd.

    • @Jdogflan35
      @Jdogflan35 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rmx33383 why?

  • @comona
    @comona ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I love JetBlue. The free snacks, clean bathrooms, free wifi, games on the tv screens. Lots of fun

    • @superdudegaming8484
      @superdudegaming8484 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same One Of My Favorite Airlines.
      They Should Add A Little More Games Though.

    • @naterosen9786
      @naterosen9786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not to mention the huge seats compared to others, and the pantries right next to the bathrooms so that you don’t have to wait for snacks, also the working wife, and the gigantic seats in first class.

    • @Wiki021
      @Wiki021 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superdudegaming8484 ikr the games kinda not good but hey I ain't complaining it's something new

  • @jaym2267
    @jaym2267 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It's kind of standard nowadays to meme spirit, but spirit is a good example of getting what you pay for. If you're flying for about just 100$, and you can deal with being in a slightly more uncomfortable metal tube for 1-3 hours, then perfect decision. In most of my experiences with spirit, I've had no problems with delays etc with the airline, besides a 12-hour delay at Las Vegas. Even in some cases, my spirit flights beat the same route as American. Spirit aircraft are being outfitted with wifi currently, and it's at a cheaper price than American's wifi.
    TL;DR spirit is a coin flip. Either you can have a standard uneventful flight if you're able to deal with the obvious caviats of paying way cheaper for a flight, or you'll have a terrible time via delays etc.

    • @littlesongbird1
      @littlesongbird1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like spirit and the price is good. I can pack a backpack and be fine. I don't need on board entertainment (I can read or sleep or play with my tablet). I bring my own water and snacks. It's very affordable.

  • @henrych86
    @henrych86 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I’m still disappointed that JetBlue failed to buy Virgin America 6 years ago. I think JetBlue would have appeased Virgin America fans more than Alaska (keeping great service, the safety video, etc).

    • @celebrityrog
      @celebrityrog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too. I refuse to fly on Alaska before and definitely after.

    • @rashawndiallo5228
      @rashawndiallo5228 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @SaahajMattey
      @SaahajMattey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@celebrityrog Whats wrong w Alaska?

    • @maxsaviation9512
      @maxsaviation9512 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SaahajMatteythey ruined virgin America completely and they downgraded their seats like American Airlines did.

  • @emmykundy4273
    @emmykundy4273 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Adding destination will not give you the actual total unless there are no any destination served by both airlines at present.

  • @hudbenz1
    @hudbenz1 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This isnt about acquiring more aircraft and employees, it's for the parking slips at airports. Now they will be able to do a nonspot from LA to NYC, and to multiple other cities. This will allow jet blue to service more customers, and is the only way that they can continue growth and customer retain meant from point to point and minimize the airline switch mid travel, losing potential revenue.

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      JetBlue already serves LAX to JFK nonstop I'm pretty sure. Their whole new business class is designed around it, and their new transatlantic routes. This will give them more time slots to fly instead of opening a new market altogether.

    • @airbaker2
      @airbaker2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@visionist7 Yes, we serve the most nonstops on the JFK - LAX route (compared to the big 4)

  • @benjaminjoseph8487
    @benjaminjoseph8487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very interesting. Loved the content. Thank you.

  • @adamesd3699
    @adamesd3699 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love JetBlue. I fly JetBlue even if it is slightly more expensive.

    • @playboymaxim
      @playboymaxim ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope they bring back free carry on for Blue basic fares

  • @Micfri123
    @Micfri123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video. JetBlue is my favorite airline, would love to see them have a bigger footprint

  • @bdmora8208
    @bdmora8208 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spirit’s not even that bad. The walk to the hotel wasn’t even that far from where we crashed. 10/10 recommend

  • @talhasiddiqui1110
    @talhasiddiqui1110 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always loved flying with JetBlue. Just got approved for their JetBlue plus card. 80k points by spending 1k with a $99 dollar fee basically $900 worth if travel by spending $1000 and you get free carryons with the card.
    They know what they are doing!

  • @kojack635
    @kojack635 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a 6'4" man I always opt for the emergency isle for legroom. I'm also willing and able to help in an emergency. Prior military, pilot, 10+ years in aviation

  • @DrakeFromStateFarm
    @DrakeFromStateFarm ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I don’t care what so long as it’s better than American…

  • @Chineeex
    @Chineeex ปีที่แล้ว +85

    JetBlue is by far the best airline out of the “big 5”

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Delta is just as good, never had a bad experience with them.

    • @n.e.g.u.s
      @n.e.g.u.s ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Delta is solid

    • @marcusholmes7942
      @marcusholmes7942 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jetblue was a great airline, now they are middle of the pack at best. The day pudgy little Robin Hayes pushed out David Neeleman was the day the slide started. They no longer put the customer first, anticipate a large POS airline.

    • @jatterhog
      @jatterhog ปีที่แล้ว +3

      United is also steadily improving.

    • @BlackSpaniard
      @BlackSpaniard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And all of the big 5 are decent at best globally

  • @AEMoreira81
    @AEMoreira81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This really helps JetBlue more so…as they solve the problem of replacing their old planes. JetBlue is a 24-hour operations and their planes are getting up in hours. In fact, on their oldest planes, JetBlue chose not to do a life extension and will instead retire them (these planes are approaching 90,000 hours, the limit without a life extension).

  • @Wiki021
    @Wiki021 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I never had a problem with jetBlue it’s a great airline with the service and the friendly flight attendants

  • @Jay-hr3rh
    @Jay-hr3rh ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I never understood how Sprite Airlines was a "low cost" carrier. With the extra fees and stress incurred, was it worth it?

    • @intrepidfox37
      @intrepidfox37 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The "low cost" refers to the costs of running the business, not necessarily low prices for the customers.

    • @Jay-hr3rh
      @Jay-hr3rh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@intrepidfox37 🎯

    • @jamespfitz
      @jamespfitz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps other people value stress differently than you do. Just a thought.

    • @Jay-hr3rh
      @Jay-hr3rh ปีที่แล้ว

      @09mrmarshall The delta thing was my experience also.

    • @legwearlife
      @legwearlife ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Low cost” has more to do with operating costs, which in turn keeps the cost per seat low. JetBlue and Southwest are the only true low-cost carriers left, while others have shifted to *ultra* low-cost, who then charge secondary fees while otherwise keeping operating costs even lower.

  • @lcthevideogamer
    @lcthevideogamer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What baffles my mind is the fact that JetBlue’s CEO and board of directors insisted to Spirit Airlines’ shareholders that they can still retain their Northeast Alliance joint-venture with American Airlines (which is currently being sued by the Department of Justice over antitrust concerns) even after fully acquiring the largest ultra-low cost carrier in the country.
    The proposed merger between Spirit Airlines and Frontier Airlines made a lot more sense since both airlines air ultra-low cost carriers, and a full-service carrier like JetBlue acquiring Spirit Airlines, the largest ultra-low cost carrier in the country, will most certainly increase airfare for travelers. Furthermore, their current Northeast Alliance joint-venture with American Airlines will also reduce competition and hurt travelers as well. Typical corporate greed taking advantage of consumers during a time when inflation is rampant and we are on the brink of an economic recession.

  • @juanh6099
    @juanh6099 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love flying JetBlue. I would definitely start a miles reward program that would rival aa or united because that’s what young flyers look into.

  • @ryanh603
    @ryanh603 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I flew JetBlue once, it was a nice quirky experience. Spirit on the other hand I will never fly with. Aside from all the horror stories I’ve read or watched videos about, the most trashy people - loud and obnoxious - that I saw in Las Vegas on the shuttle to the airport were making their way to the Spirit check in lines. That made me glad I was not experiencing any potential flight disturbances.

  • @juliojjesgmailcom
    @juliojjesgmailcom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for the super excellently produced Video-Report

  • @briandynamite7942
    @briandynamite7942 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope this goes through, not only that but eventually adding frontier would help JetBlue significantly

  • @giar1274
    @giar1274 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I just hope JetBlue adopt Spirit’s guideline for personal item size -18x14x8”. I don’t wanna pay for carry on (just my unimportant personal complaint).

  • @sportsMike87
    @sportsMike87 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Spirit allows people that don't have much money to travel with there really low fares. We'll see if government approves it

    • @nickel_las
      @nickel_las ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...but so does Frontier.

    • @austincharles967
      @austincharles967 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Unfortunately, Spirit's customers are animals.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@austincharles967 So its like Greyhound bus of the air.

    • @truefranck
      @truefranck ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mph5896 it is. Is very cheap 🤪.. i don't care much about it as long as I get to my destination 😆

    • @nickel_las
      @nickel_las ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mph5896 It's the Magic School Bus of the air.

  • @pushing2throttles
    @pushing2throttles ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope they get this done.

  • @Powderlover1
    @Powderlover1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I have the option, even if it’s more than the legacy carriers, I take jet blue. I really hope this merger fixes spirit, and doesn’t just break jet blue.

  • @terryterry1655
    @terryterry1655 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    NO one ever thought of three musketeers merging Frontier,Spirit and Jetblue all with 33% each with 1% for me

  • @colbymaxheidke7607
    @colbymaxheidke7607 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    everyone in the comments complaining about spirit clearly doesn’t get it. If you feel you need 4 feet of legroom and 300 lbs of luggage and tvs and free snacks go ahead and pay triple the price to fly jetblue but i’ll stick with paying $35 to fly halfway across the country with a backpack for luggage and a book for entertainment and yes im ok with sitting in the fetal position for three hours if that’s what it takes to save $300

    • @legwearlife
      @legwearlife ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy gets it. ✅ We all have options.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As long as prices stay low. I'm flying the cheapest option with the price of everything going through the roof. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

    • @anthonybassett4313
      @anthonybassett4313 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think this will hurt prices honestly. Spirit helped keep prices down.

  • @luxuryhub1323
    @luxuryhub1323 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It's a deal that will help create a powerhouse within the United States, with the ambition to reduce the cost of flying within the United States and provide a more substantial amount of competition to other airlines.

  • @calpal9983
    @calpal9983 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting food for thought.

  • @alexanderboulton2123
    @alexanderboulton2123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spirit being gone from the airways is a blessing in and of itself

  • @psalas98
    @psalas98 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    JetBlue is significantly more expensive than spirit. I would not like for a budget airline to be taken out, but the possibility that a merger could bring down the average flight cost for all airlines is kind of nice too

    • @chosenmadbro1737
      @chosenmadbro1737 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spirit would have merged with frontier making a super budget airline which I kinda thought would have been better tbh

    • @psalas98
      @psalas98 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chosenmadbro1737 Isn’t it good for them to have competition w/each other though

  • @NicolasYannick1123
    @NicolasYannick1123 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how the used Airbus A737 model airplanes.

  • @jon-michaelharris5840
    @jon-michaelharris5840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was hoping that JetBlue would keep Spirit sort separate and maintain its current business model. Maybe slightly re-brand it. Similar to how there are hotel companies that own different levels of hotel brands.

    • @SaahajMattey
      @SaahajMattey ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of airlines tried that and most of the "low cost" subsidiaries went outta business

  • @mk3a
    @mk3a ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly JetBlue is positioning itself to be what TWA should have been in the 90s and 2000s.

  • @tyrontaviushughes4800
    @tyrontaviushughes4800 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm more interested in trying to find the planes he got, so I could play with them😂

  • @itsyvonblitz6819
    @itsyvonblitz6819 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandfather works at JetBlue and I plan to as well in the next few years

  • @Mike072385
    @Mike072385 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where's all the outcry about rising airfares and the elimination of competition? That's all I heard when Frontier and Spirit announced a merger agreement.

    • @vitaly6312
      @vitaly6312 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s because they competed with each other mostly. And I did hear that from some aviation and business channels. Yes, JetBlue prices are higher than spirit and will likely be higher than previous spirit prices.

  • @EvergreenAviation
    @EvergreenAviation ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this video to learn about Spirit x JetBlue Merger ❌
    Watching this video to see toy planes ✔️

  • @briangasser973
    @briangasser973 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You didnt discuss the negatives:
    1. Combining the pilot contract/seniority will be challenging
    2. JetBlue wasnt profitable in Q2, it will have to pay a higher debt service to pay for the purchase.
    3. JetBlue has IT issues, bulking up wont solve that problem, especially as it merges reservation systems/ops/frequent flyer program.

    • @A22DNAL
      @A22DNAL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All well-intentioned points however the objective of the video was to show the ways they COULD compete...not fall flat on their faces! LOL

  • @justinw-bs7053
    @justinw-bs7053 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its kinda of like United + Continental and American Airlines + U.S Airways.

  • @damnimloomin
    @damnimloomin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Based on destinations I personally feel like it’s more of a big 3 situation still.

  • @uname_username2407
    @uname_username2407 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love it that they use Daron planes

  • @runkapbandit2659
    @runkapbandit2659 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Does this mean that all those Spirit passengers that were duking it up in the aisles will now be on my JetBlue flight to Palm Springs ? Raise the prices I think some of those folks should take the bus this holiday season .

    • @simonkue
      @simonkue ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't worry about that, them Jerry Springer Guest will not be able to afford JetBlues Ticket Price...

    • @morganm5203
      @morganm5203 ปีที่แล้ว

      this has some undertones…

  • @cathyjs3113
    @cathyjs3113 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really hope they have that much airline choices in Canada 😢

  • @stevebiggavel2720
    @stevebiggavel2720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video 🫡

  • @rmatt24
    @rmatt24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do they fare against Avelo, Breeze, SunCountry, and Silver??

  • @advisevo2153
    @advisevo2153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Air travel should be like the 60/70s. You used to buy a ticket and it was valid up to one year.

  • @jiuismywife7
    @jiuismywife7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video plane very cool 😮

    • @jiuismywife7
      @jiuismywife7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nevermind US airline sucks

  • @adotintheshark4848
    @adotintheshark4848 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think this is just the first of several mergers. When all is done, there may be three American carriers at the most.

    • @vitaly6312
      @vitaly6312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t see southwest or Alaskan being absorbed by anybody. Same thing with JetBlue after the merger…

    • @masonmtb7
      @masonmtb7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vitaly6312 i could kinda see alaska and jetblue merging with american, given both of their strong relationship with AA

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vitaly6312 They said that about Pan Am, TWA and Northwest. TWA and Pan Am went bust and Northwest got absorbed.

  • @shamsqasr6173
    @shamsqasr6173 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wanna know where can I buy those plane models?? 🤩

  • @acegarcia3719
    @acegarcia3719 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wouldn't be surprised if Frontier eventually pursues Allegiant as an alternative merger. Another low cost carrier with a320 aircraft that could increase their competition with Southwest.

    • @simonkue
      @simonkue ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless they drop they carry on - check bag - seating fees then yes , Keep Dreaming..

    • @tomwest2413
      @tomwest2413 ปีที่แล้ว

      320’s are being replaced

    • @legwearlife
      @legwearlife ปีที่แล้ว

      Southwest is a different tier, more in line with UA, AA and DL (economy class, to clarify).

  • @Dweeble233
    @Dweeble233 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jetblue is a decent airline. Spirit is like the dollar store of airlines. I've flown both. Spirit? Never again.

  • @tvd1188
    @tvd1188 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Being in the northeast, i prefer Jetblue over all others. I just hope the merger maintains that same "spirit" (pun intended)

  • @SkiDaBird
    @SkiDaBird ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What would that middle of the country hub be? DFW, ORD, and IAH don’t exactly have a lot of open slots. MSP doesn’t have much potential for local demand. The only place immediately coming to mind is Austin, given the growth of the city and lack of a fortress hub from a competitor.

    • @wa210
      @wa210 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually MCI would be smack in the middle, and a good option.

  • @ShinJoey84
    @ShinJoey84 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Spirit is like the greyhound bus of the sky.

    • @michaellim4165
      @michaellim4165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So? People with low income can still fly. There is a market for everyone. This deal will only make things more expensive.

    • @austincharles967
      @austincharles967 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaellim4165 People? You mean "animals", right? Spirit customers are the absolute worst. Ghetto trash at its worst.

    • @WinginWolf
      @WinginWolf ปีที่แล้ว

      that's what I loved about it :c

    • @notyourtypicalfarah7194
      @notyourtypicalfarah7194 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaellim4165 that's not the issue. The issue those people are uncivilized.

    • @simonkue
      @simonkue ปีที่แล้ว

      More like for Jerry Springers Guest....

  • @samhowell6729
    @samhowell6729 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they’re smart, they’ll swoop into Lambert in Stl as a focus city. Middle of the country, was once the twa hub, and is in talks of a new terminal set up. Jet blue could wiggle their way in and convince a terminal setup that benefits them.

  • @nerdoftravel
    @nerdoftravel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JetBlue and Spirits merger makes a bit of sense to me. As that means the larger airline will be able to compete better but it’s more of a win for frontier since that eliminates an airline in the low cost sector.

  • @gtramerica4565
    @gtramerica4565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruhhh my back hasn’t recovered from spirits seats flew from atl to Vegas and back and I’m hurting i always fly delta but package didn’t offer them as airline now I learned my lesson

  • @petersachs764
    @petersachs764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After flying Spirit i'd rather walk.

  • @aadityavishwanath783
    @aadityavishwanath783 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No mention of landing rights? Jetblue wants the LA (LAX), Seattle (SEA) and SF(OAK) area landing rights that Spirit has. Jetblue cant expand out west due to limited airport capacity and cost to land at these airports. OAK is a Southwest hub, but Spirit has gates there SFO is too expensive and busy to expand to. LAX is another United hub, but Spirit has a hub there too and landing rights at the other LA area airport SNA. SEA guess who also has landing rights there too.

    • @ntmn8444
      @ntmn8444 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spirit does not have a hub in LAX. They have a few gates there, but hardly a hub. Spirit hubs are LAS, MIA, DFW, IAH, ORD, ATL, FLL, ACY, and MCO. No LAX on that list.

  • @macadoo1588
    @macadoo1588 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, Greyhound of the sky. Nothing like a 17 hour layover in Denver when you are flying from LA to Vegas. 😆

  • @Da_one_tl
    @Da_one_tl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just hope if this happens, JetBlue’s everything manages to rub off of Spirit, not the other way around

  • @u.s.6909
    @u.s.6909 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would love to be an American Airlines Boeing 787 pilot. I miss the McDonnell Douglas MD-80's.

    • @wa210
      @wa210 ปีที่แล้ว

      MD-80's hated by F/A's. Now give me a DC-10 anyday of the week, I'm all in. Flew the -10 "pub" and -30 all over the world out of my old HNL base mid 80's-early 90's. Always liked that 3rd engine flying across the Pacific. Flew 747-200's too, but DC-10 grew up in.

  • @jonathanslaughter7559
    @jonathanslaughter7559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wouldn't be hard to have pilots if it didn't cost 106K just to get to the point where you build hours.

  • @komarpineda4192
    @komarpineda4192 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will miss Spirit's Yellow 💛 Airbuses. Common on Yate Lauderdale, and now present at Miami.

  • @NateTheOhioan
    @NateTheOhioan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is alaska that high up!?

  • @gregthompson3481
    @gregthompson3481 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spirit has deals like no other. I’ve gotten one way flights as low as $35 (pre-pandemic) and $14 during the pandemic. If this goes through, I’ll no longer have access to that because JetBlue wants to compete with bigger airlines.

    • @brentduanefoster
      @brentduanefoster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, just don’t bring any baggage.

    • @gregthompson3481
      @gregthompson3481 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brentduanefoster exactly, I bring a duffel bag that I can stuff under the seat in front of me. If I’m going for a long weekend it’s all I need. If I’m going for a week many hotels and AirBnbs have laundry. Even if they don’t, in my opinion an hour at the laundromat spending $5-$8 is better than $35 each way for a carry on. Sometimes fees are more than the ticket itself.

  • @Akshay6670
    @Akshay6670 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys.. you misplaced number 2 and 3 at 0.08. 🤣🤣

  • @mike51r
    @mike51r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are they saying this is #1 about aircraft, and #2 about personnel. When it is very clear that this is about acquiring markets and routes....

    • @A22DNAL
      @A22DNAL ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you even heard about Jetblue not being able to fly new routes....BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PLANES!

  • @rashawndiallo5228
    @rashawndiallo5228 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if this deal goes through if it means they'll come back to Long Beach. :)

  • @ntmn8444
    @ntmn8444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been reading a lot of comments, and it seems people don’t understand that Spirit is being acquired, they’re merging with JetBlue but that means you won’t see Spirit anymore. It’ll just be JetBlue. That’s it.

    • @legwearlife
      @legwearlife ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people don’t understand the airline industry, unfortunately, as I’m constantly reminded. 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @HELLUVAs
    @HELLUVAs ปีที่แล้ว

    quiero esos aviones

  • @oldscar6169
    @oldscar6169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know a lot of folks that work for JetBlue JFK , MCO. I also no how Spirit operates especially in Detroit Gates & customer service (Major Attitude Problems) a major hub for Spirit. One major problem is that JetBlues Human Resource Dept will be working Overtime dealing with this issue Good luck This isn’t an issue you will hear about in the News.

  • @whitemailprivilege2830
    @whitemailprivilege2830 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:59 👂 🩸 VOCAL FRY AHHH!

  • @frankrajan8159
    @frankrajan8159 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unreal

  • @jaredadams989
    @jaredadams989 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the price thing was a little misunderstood, people aren’t worried about possibly getting cheaper high end flights they are worried about losing the ultra low cost spirit option

  • @redbaronahp
    @redbaronahp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 5 years JetBlue might decide to purchase Frontier’s assets too.

  • @elconquistador932
    @elconquistador932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crush your Spirit Airline. I made one trip from PDX to Motown and back and I swore never again. I Imagined Con Air has better seat options and service. I told the kid in front of me that if he didn't recline that I'd buy all his drinks for the entire flight. His Mom said "He's only 17!" I said "I don't care!"
    Flight attendant laughed and then ignored me the whole flight.

  • @stgermain6488
    @stgermain6488 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If the merger goes through I hope it’ll allow JetBlue to offer a direct fly from JFK to BOG since Spirit currently flys two direct flights to Bogota.
    Avianca has good times but they charge nearly the same as Delta but the seats are cramped and delta is getting too expensive for me. If JetBlue can offer a flight that arrives before 7PM, they can definitely take a piece of Avianca and Delta customers

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The reason I can't take JetBlue JFK to BOG is cause it gets there too late! At 12am all the Colombian national flights are done for the day.

    • @stgermain6488
      @stgermain6488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TrainerAQ The airport now has bed pods if you don’t want to leave the airport

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stgermain6488 I don't feel comfortable sleeping in an airport XD

    • @jatterhog
      @jatterhog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      American also flies that route, and United fly it from EWR

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JetBlue has no planes that can reach BOG from JFK at this time, although they are coming in the future. Neither does Spirit.

  • @TREK5900cheats
    @TREK5900cheats ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pilots are gonna start making major money and its gonna happen soon

    • @wa210
      @wa210 ปีที่แล้ว

      They already do at the majors.

  • @arosenweig
    @arosenweig ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The combined company will likely need to divest gates in Boston, Fort Lauderdale and Orlando to name a few.

  • @georgecoons6872
    @georgecoons6872 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    now its going to be called spirit blue. half yella half blue.

  • @spacesoup6797
    @spacesoup6797 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Calls on Save