I love the sound of an inertia starter. It's what they used for the sound effect on the Millennium Falcon when the hyperdrive wouldn't engage, so always carries a bit of suspense for me. Hearing big diesels start is awesome too, like locomotive and power plant engines.
Thank you pointing that out, it seems glaringly obvious to me now, especially because it sounds like failure, until that double row wasp belches a little smoke, and comes up on two rows of odd cylinders music, making perfect harmony.
@@craigmclean8260 damn. You are correct. I don't even have to confirm that, audio files in my brain have already acknowledged this as the truth. Preach Craig McLean. The taz almost sounds like a magneto off, clear flood sound to me, although it could be looped, thank you for opening my eyes.
Anyone that's ever heard a really, really big motor start on air knows that this is not a desperate video idea! I really enjoyed it. Many of the off-road trucks in surface mining used air start. As well as most offshore boats. By the way, offshore crew boats would definitely be a video in itself. Some of those big beasts are absolutely amazing.
A pair of V-12 Supercharged Cummins with Air Start on our 83' Utility Boat in the 70's. What a glorious noise! (And 2 2-56 or 2-53 I don't remember which powered generators. All that in a steel engine room was deafening even with muffs.)
Pony motors we're almost REQUIRED on those John Deere up in the north US, especially if you were using it for other duties besides seasonal field work. You either kept it in a heated shed or lit a fire underneath it if you had an electric start and needed to start it in the sub zero temps.
The starter noise of the Mack truck is so nice. It reminds me of the bus I used to get on as a child. My bus stop was at the end of the route so I would always catch the driver on their break and she would let me on the bus while her break was going. And I was get on the back of the bus and wait for it to start up. Nice maybe these buses had Mac engines cuz they sound exactly like this
I can still remember years ago watching a guy kickstarting a large displacement Vincent motorcycle which was quite temperamental and kept on kicking back
Brings back a lot of good memories with my dad. He has a Mack B-85 that was a former fire truck with the 711 Thermodyne in it (it only has the standard electric starter), and a John Deere 70 diesel with the V-4 pony motor.
I like the sound of big engines sputtering to life. And i especially LOVE the sound of inertial starters. The whine of the flywheel struggling against the compression of the engine has something that draws me to it.
That rorty little John Deere petrol V4 roaring away like an early VTEC to start the big diesel twin-cyl is fun! The spring starter system is something I never saw before, so simple but by the looks of it damned effective since those were some big engines they were attached to. Good for folks building apocalypse vehicles too!!
So many thanks to YOU VR, for your outstanding work!!; I myself, (Old School MD/ ER / ICU), cannot imagine our world without ICU engines, very specifically, diesel / turbo.diesel ones. (Just gotta love old Detroit 2.stroke ones, as well as newer Cummins ones..). Thank you kindly & many Blessings to you & family!!. 🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm really glad you included some electric inertia starting radials this time. They are some of my favorite, The Pratt and Whitney R-985 in particular.
Visio, your willingness to go further into details that most channels overlook, makes you unique and very interesting. And your interest in the aural aspect of engine-dom makes it very interesting for me personally. The sound engines make gives them life and character, most people don't think of this. Again thank you for what you do.
@@randymagnum143 My favorite kind of machines then. I love to work out "the bugs" on old engines. I do aircraft engines for my day job but love to work on old engines in my free time.
@@randymagnum143 Very true! We had a JD730 waay back and it had the V4 pony motor (though we called it a pup motor?). It grenaded twice on us and cost a small fortune to repair. The second time it went we actually got rid of the tractor. Too high of rpm for the construction of it, if I remember correctly I think it threw a rod both times.
I used to think the Mad Max 2 truck just had a funky sound effect for the starter, but to know that was actually the sound it made is soooooo much cooler! 😃
That’s why there is a big cloud of dust when it starts all the air flowing through the air starter. It is just like a big air impact wrench motor instead of an electrical starter motor.
I have never personally seen a Coffman starter, but in all the youtube videos that show it, the engine starts with the first cartridge, even the one that's 40 years old. Makes me wonder if the starting sequence in Flight of the Phoenix was more Hollywood than reality. Also, the place that has no water is the desert. Dessert is pie a la mode after dinner.
In your own way you are TOPS on giving us technical info mostly forgotten bringing back beautiful memories of days gone by. Thank you very much for something appreciated a lot from a South African Boer.
The starter motors on the 5.3 L lm7 in the chevy silverados from around 2005 have my favorite startups. They're just consistent and remind me of my childhood
Many of the oldest caterpillar diesels started with a pony motor and also, the John Deere model R used and opposed twin pony starter motor. It had its own unique sound. Wonderful video as always!
Definitely a unique sound. I have a D2 cat that has a pony motor. It is even a more unique sound when it starts knocking. I took it apart and found a broken rod cap.
While the mack air starter still acted like a normal started in that it engaged the flywheel, it would have been interesting to see the airstart used on large marine engines such as wartsillas, that uses compressed air in the cylinders to get the engine to turn over, it sounds pretty cool, like the engine is coughing before it wakes up to get to work :)
Yeah I think he was confused about how the Mack starter worked. Still cool glad it is in the video but agree hopefully in the next video he can cover large motors with compressed air in the starter.
Love the inertia starter. I remember watching a couple of guys starting a tank with one of those, just cranking up up gradually for about 5 minutes...then pull the pin to engage the flywheel and the huge engine leaps into life. :-)
@@carsondaly1521 JD 2cyl is one unique beast the greatest achievement in their 2cyl era. While the were creating their greatest tractor ever the 4020. Which they never looked back after.
You know When i learned on this very channel that there was a tractor engine that used a shotgun shell to start it I was impressed by that info, cheers from Ecuador :)
I used to work on and around marine EMD 16 cylinder 645s that had a pair of air starters each. It was a lot of fun bringing those big mamas up from cold iron, and by the time they were idling, the air starter motors were caked in frost.
Very good sir. My grandfather had a rear engine riding mower that had a wind up spring starter. From early 1970 The only type missing from your engine starting types is the Shotgun shell starter. Insert shell, close up and strike with a hammer.
The sound of electric inertia starters is something else man. You rarely see them outside industrial or old school diesel equipment here. I heard one on a 2000s Jeep of all things earlier this year
Now this... Is one I was hoping for!! I don't know if it's weird, but I love starters and the differences about them. Thanks for the awesome video, VisioRacer!
A starter system I always found interesting is the gunpowder cartridge start used on some jet engines like the B-57 bomber. Other aircraft used this system for piston engine also I believe.
Great video! As others wrote I missed the Coffman Starter, a small turbine power by gunpowder, but it might be difficult to find any engine nowadays. There are different types compressed air starters. In bigger engines (ships) one or more cylinders are switched to compressed air for starting instead of using a starter motor.
I have to agree that I like both the sound of inertia and air starters. Spring starters are pretty cool too but no 'sound' to speak of. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate you & your efforts to delve into even the weirdest, out-of-the-mainstream stuff at times. This is great content & needs no apology. Keep it up.
I love this channel... The more strange and obscure the engines are you talk about, the more I learn! One of the best channels on TH-cam! You should start another channel where you try to find examples of these strange vehicles... I click on a visioracer video IMMEDIATELY every time I see a new one!
You wont be running out of material anytime soon. Far too much to go over when it comes to engines and the various systems that the manufacturers cooked up. Great stuff this video. Keep up the good work
I love vids like these because I used to be a heavy duty mechanic for a shop that maintained and restored old farm/construction equipment and I've worked on plenty of equipment with cool types of starters. My favorite is the shot gun shell starter👍
The combination of two of the systems in the video also exists. One is a pony engine which charges air cylinders for the startup of the main engine is used on many ships. The other I know is the Ruston & Hornsby 165DS shunter locomotive I worked with, that used a 1 cylinder pony engine to start the 6-inline diesel, the pony engine had to be started with a heavy hand cranked wheel. You had to spin up that wheel and when it spun fast enough you had to engage a dog clutch to start the pony engine, so this is an inertia starter and safer than a direct hand crank start as you have your hand off the crank when you engage the wheel with the engine. When the pony engine was running you could start the main engine with it. Because the main engine also had a manual oil pump to bring oil into the engine before starting and a manual fuel pump to fill up a header tank from which the engine was gravity fed you could start it without having a working battery. The loco had an electric system to run lighting and the instrument panel, and an electric fuel pump and stop valve which took over once the engine was running
I didn't realise you'd done another video about starters. I love the sound of just about all these, especially the Mack air starters and the inertia plane engine starters! I remember rewinding that bit in Mad Max 2 where he was starting the Mack tractor unit over and over as it sounded so good! I believe that system could also use air tyre pressure to start, nifty! Thanks for your great videos, always informative and interesting!
you NEVER cease to amaze me man,....ALWAYS something cool and new to me, and i am a gear head...i wrote this comment before the ending of the video,....lol,...that was weird,...you do never run out of ideas man.
Propeller-Planes usually have sweet sounding starter motors. My dad's 1975 Piper Cherokee Warrior has a 5.4L Flat-4 engine and it sounds *awesome* whenever he starts it up.
Not a "desperate " video at all. Your videos are some the best on here. Keep doing what your doing. I love watching your videos. As a petrol head. ALL your videos keep me well entertained. So thank you and keep up the great work. Looking forward to many more.
I love the sound of an inertial starter. On diesels, my brother (the truck mechanic) told me the latest pre-heaters to assist starting diesels are large heating coils in the intake manifold. They heat the incoming air charge which makes for a faster, easier start. The only thing is, you NEVER use starting fluid, you'll blow the intake manifold apart.
There is something special about starting an engine, when you were able to start ist and the Sound it makes. Those Videos are Just as intetesting as your Other Videos, keep Up the great Work!
Interesting the Pony engine start for John Deer tractors you featured in your vid is all the the guys I plow with every year, they are located about 40 miles from my house and we plan to start plowing this again as always in about 2 weeks from now! What a surprise to see all my friends in your video!
Funny my coworker just spoke about a John Deere lawnmower that had a motor so he could start the real motor, I never heard of that before and here is this video. Hopefully I can check out his tractor soon.
Spring starters were also used in the tiny Cox engines, which were as small as .010 cubic inches, but more commonly .049 cubic inches. There was a spring around the shaft with a hook on it, and you'd hook it around the propeller, turn the engine backwards a couple of times, and release.
FOR YEARS N YEARS I HAD HEARD THE SOUND OF SOME OF THE WW2 PLANES CRANKING UP AND COULDN'T FOR THE LIFE OF FIGURE OUT WHAT MADE THE HIGH PITCH CRANK SOUND N NOW I KNO THANK U SIR N KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB
I recall a series of vids of the International Harverster DIESEL dozer with a compression lever that changed the ratio, making the engine able to run on GAS and using just car-like battery to start. It had distributor, sparkplug coil and for the diesel, a mechanical injetion pump. Once it was on temperature, they push the lever to change the compression ratio. The engine running on gas had enough power to move the machine. Not to operate it, just to move it. Pretty clever also, one engine for all.
Decades ago I took the idea of a relatives 730 JD with the pony motor and applied it to grandad's stationary Blackstone engine...well sorta, I put a 3 groove pulley on his tiller and cut a hole in the cover so one groove was convienantly sticking out and he could run the tiller over to the engine which was used out from the garden anyway for his mill and run a belt from the Blackstone to the tiller and pull back on the tiller to apply pressure on the belt until the Blackstone finally fired off then push the tiller few and remove the belt, it worked like a charm I use to be so fascinated with that ol Blackstone I'd absolutely love to have it or one like it, a passerby made dad a very generous offer one day and he sold it when I was a teen ,grandad would keep all his oil from oil changes in a barrel and he had a mix he liked of mostly used motor oil slightly diluted with kerosene he ran in that thing it was the most simple basic concept you could imagine
I love your channel when I found it, it was all about race cars but after you showed ma the love of all kinds of powered vehicles and power unit around the world I fell in love, thank you and God bless you keep them coming I look forward to the next video !
You go way outside the mainstream. That's what makes you channel great!
I appreciate it! Thanks
I hardly agree. Great, great content you don't find anywhere else.
Besides that. He always compiling best sounding sounds so we don't have to search them one by one ourself
+1
@@rifkyfahrana1141 Even better when you see the exact same truck in person and recognise it from a Visioracer video haha.
I love the sound of an inertia starter. It's what they used for the sound effect on the Millennium Falcon when the hyperdrive wouldn't engage, so always carries a bit of suspense for me.
Hearing big diesels start is awesome too, like locomotive and power plant engines.
Thank you pointing that out, it seems glaringly obvious to me now, especially because it sounds like failure, until that double row wasp belches a little smoke, and comes up on two rows of odd cylinders music, making perfect harmony.
The sound was also used for the Tasmanian Devil cartoons!
@@craigmclean8260 damn. You are correct. I don't even have to confirm that, audio files in my brain have already acknowledged this as the truth. Preach Craig McLean. The taz almost sounds like a magneto off, clear flood sound to me, although it could be looped, thank you for opening my eyes.
Reminds me of the tractor my grandfather had. Good old vladimirec t-25
@@craigmclean8260 That's what I was thinking as well.
"my tractor won't start" "is it out of gas?" "what do you mean, it runs on diesel!" "but the starter motor runs on gas"
Had that happen in the field quite a few times with a 720 the tank only held about a quart of gas
Sometimes irony can be ironic.
Anyone that's ever heard a really, really big motor start on air knows that this is not a desperate video idea! I really enjoyed it. Many of the off-road trucks in surface mining used air start. As well as most offshore boats. By the way, offshore crew boats would definitely be a video in itself. Some of those big beasts are absolutely amazing.
Standing next to Wärtsilä 16V46 while it is started up with pressurized air is a great feeling.
A pair of V-12 Supercharged Cummins with Air Start on our 83' Utility Boat in the 70's. What a glorious noise! (And 2 2-56 or 2-53 I don't remember which powered generators. All that in a steel engine room was deafening even with muffs.)
Pony motors we're almost REQUIRED on those John Deere up in the north US, especially if you were using it for other duties besides seasonal field work. You either kept it in a heated shed or lit a fire underneath it if you had an electric start and needed to start it in the sub zero temps.
And pony pre-heated that diesel intake, also.
@@jamesgeorge4874 preheated the intake and also circulated warm water around the diesel
@@RJ1999x yup.
Funny, Detroit Diesels started easily in nearly any weather. Maybe Deere, Cat, and Ih should have licenced Shephard diesel?
@@randymagnum143You should start a kinda tired TIB 6-71 in -5 degree weather.
I would have liked to see the shotgun cartridge starter again!
I think I first saw that featured in the original Flight of the Phoenix as a kid!
The Field Marshal tractor , right ?
@@bill3641 Yep.
@@skylined5534 EXACTLY, what first came, to my mind. Love that part, in the movie.
I always loved the sound of the old mopar starters in the 70s and older. You could always tell when a mopar was cranking over
Yessirie. That's what we Mopar fans, call the 'crow'😁!!!
A Mack air starter was our alarm clock, on a construction job, 35 years ago.
The starter noise of the Mack truck is so nice. It reminds me of the bus I used to get on as a child. My bus stop was at the end of the route so I would always catch the driver on their break and she would let me on the bus while her break was going. And I was get on the back of the bus and wait for it to start up. Nice maybe these buses had Mac engines cuz they sound exactly like this
Maybe a list of coolest kickstart bikes? Or hand crank start cars?
Great idea , i agree
YESSS PLEASE!!
Oh yessss
For sho.
I can still remember years ago watching a guy kickstarting a large displacement Vincent motorcycle which was quite temperamental and kept on kicking back
Brings back a lot of good memories with my dad. He has a Mack B-85 that was a former fire truck with the 711 Thermodyne in it (it only has the standard electric starter), and a John Deere 70 diesel with the V-4 pony motor.
I like the sound of big engines sputtering to life. And i especially LOVE the sound of inertial starters. The whine of the flywheel struggling against the compression of the engine has something that draws me to it.
I loved the John Deere v4 pony motor. I was young last time I saw one, not realizing how cool it was. Now I kinda want one.
That rorty little John Deere petrol V4 roaring away like an early VTEC to start the big diesel twin-cyl is fun!
The spring starter system is something I never saw before, so simple but by the looks of it damned effective since those were some big engines they were attached to. Good for folks building apocalypse vehicles too!!
So many thanks to YOU VR, for your outstanding work!!; I myself, (Old School MD/ ER / ICU), cannot imagine our world without ICU engines, very specifically, diesel / turbo.diesel ones. (Just gotta love old Detroit 2.stroke ones, as well as newer Cummins ones..).
Thank you kindly & many Blessings to you & family!!.
🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm really glad you included some electric inertia starting radials this time. They are some of my favorite, The Pratt and Whitney
R-985 in particular.
That inertia setup is pretty interesting. I can see why it’s used for movie sound effects.
I think the German Panther had the same setup, took two guys to get the flywheel spinning.
Visio, your willingness to go further into details that most channels overlook, makes you unique and very interesting.
And your interest in the aural aspect of engine-dom makes it very interesting for me personally. The sound engines make gives them life and character, most people don't think of this.
Again thank you for what you do.
I loved this one! Especially the air start Mack. The JD V4 pony starter motor has potential for other uses!
I can’t find anyone that has made a motorcycle out of one. Would an interesting bike.
They cost more to overhaul than the main engine. They were frail and finicky.
@@randymagnum143
My favorite kind of machines then. I love to work out "the bugs" on old engines. I do aircraft engines for my day job but love to work on old engines in my free time.
That V4 would make for a fun soap-box/go-kart engine, just for laughs.
@@randymagnum143 Very true! We had a JD730 waay back and it had the V4 pony motor (though we called it a pup motor?). It grenaded twice on us and cost a small fortune to repair. The second time it went we actually got rid of the tractor. Too high of rpm for the construction of it, if I remember correctly I think it threw a rod both times.
I used to think the Mad Max 2 truck just had a funky sound effect for the starter, but to know that was actually the sound it made is soooooo much cooler! 😃
That’s why there is a big cloud of dust when it starts all the air flowing through the air starter. It is just like a big air impact wrench motor instead of an electrical starter motor.
I love the sound of an air starter. I worked at a place where all the trucks had air starters, hearing them never got old.
You missed the coolest one - A Coffman Combustion Starter - most notable from the dessert place scene in Flight of the Phoenix
I have never personally seen a Coffman starter, but in all the youtube videos that show it, the engine starts with the first cartridge, even the one that's 40 years old. Makes me wonder if the starting sequence in Flight of the Phoenix was more Hollywood than reality. Also, the place that has no water is the desert. Dessert is pie a la mode after dinner.
@@danielsugarman7547 saved me the trouble.
In your own way you are TOPS on giving us technical info mostly forgotten bringing back beautiful memories of days gone by.
Thank you very much for something appreciated a lot from a South African Boer.
Lekker tjomma! Nice to see another south african here🇿🇦
I love the Shvetsov starter Sound. Its just so out of this world.
The starter motors on the 5.3 L lm7 in the chevy silverados from around 2005 have my favorite startups. They're just consistent and remind me of my childhood
When super cold ya get the wrap wrup start lol as it torqued that crank over
Inertia start is definitely my favourite out of these
Many of the oldest caterpillar diesels started with a pony motor and also, the John Deere model R used and opposed twin pony starter motor. It had its own unique sound. Wonderful video as always!
Definitely a unique sound. I have a D2 cat that has a pony motor. It is even a more unique sound when it starts knocking. I took it apart and found a broken rod cap.
While the mack air starter still acted like a normal started in that it engaged the flywheel, it would have been interesting to see the airstart used on large marine engines such as wartsillas, that uses compressed air in the cylinders to get the engine to turn over, it sounds pretty cool, like the engine is coughing before it wakes up to get to work :)
Yeah I think he was confused about how the Mack starter worked. Still cool glad it is in the video but agree hopefully in the next video he can cover large motors with compressed air in the starter.
Definitely not a run out of ideas video, i searched for this and was thrilled to have watched it all the way through.
Love the inertia starter. I remember watching a couple of guys starting a tank with one of those, just cranking up up gradually for about 5 minutes...then pull the pin to engage the flywheel and the huge engine leaps into life. :-)
@@alfabeech I think it was a Russian tank...but there's a lot of them with crank starters, i suspect.
That whine of a Mack before it started back in the day was a massive “hold my beer” moment
that Riedel engine was really cool i bet it has a good sounding powerband the one in the clip wasn't tuned correct
i love the sound of the John Deere V4, looks very interesting engine by itself
A little v4 to start a 6.8l 2 cylinder. Definitely a unique to John Deere setup.
@@carsondaly1521 JD 2cyl is one unique beast the greatest achievement in their 2cyl era. While the were creating their greatest tractor ever the 4020. Which they never looked back after.
You know When i learned on this very channel that there was a tractor engine that used a shotgun shell to start it I was impressed by that info, cheers from Ecuador :)
Visio racer running out of ideas??? Never!!!
I love your passion for engines, keep on going.
You know I’m a motor head if I’m watching a video on starter motors! Lmao love your videos bro been watching for a long time
I used to work on and around marine EMD 16 cylinder 645s that had a pair of air starters each. It was a lot of fun bringing those big mamas up from cold iron, and by the time they were idling, the air starter motors were caked in frost.
Been here for years and never doubted you'd run out of material. This starter motors was extremely interesting.
I had an inertial starter on the first DHC Beaver I flew up north, the passengers loved the sound of it!
We need more starter videos. You're doing a stellar job!
I have just been working on a hard to start engine and your video suggested some alternatives.
Fantastic!
Very good sir. My grandfather had a rear engine riding mower that had a wind up spring starter. From early 1970
The only type missing from your engine starting types is the Shotgun shell starter. Insert shell, close up and strike with a hammer.
This is definitely one of the most interesting videos you produced! Great job. That Russian inertia starter was definitely my favorite. Very sci Fi!
The sound of electric inertia starters is something else man. You rarely see them outside industrial or old school diesel equipment here. I heard one on a 2000s Jeep of all things earlier this year
My dad's JD 70 Diesel has that V4 pony motor. Always loved the sound of that motor, it sounds so furious!
This video dug up another v4 layout engine, one of the best sounding layouts!
I have no idea early German jet engines used two-stroke engines as an APU! Thoroughly researched and musically pleasing to my ears!
Now this... Is one I was hoping for!! I don't know if it's weird, but I love starters and the differences about them. Thanks for the awesome video, VisioRacer!
I particularly love the sound of inertia and air starters!
I doubt you'll run out of ideas. There is a vast variety out there as we are learning from you! Thank you!
A starter system I always found interesting is the gunpowder cartridge start used on some jet engines like the B-57 bomber. Other aircraft used this system for piston engine also I believe.
Very impressed you remembered the Jukers jet engine starter. Great content, keep it up.
This channel just gets better & better. Love the engine start videos. And everything else that comes with it!!! Keep up that excellent content!!!
Great video! As others wrote I missed the Coffman Starter, a small turbine power by gunpowder, but it might be difficult to find any engine nowadays.
There are different types compressed air starters. In bigger engines (ships) one or more cylinders are switched to compressed air for starting instead of using a starter motor.
My dad has a campervan, and I have fond memories of him trying to start it and the sound of the starter motor before finally bursting into life
bringing those details takes your channel to another level bro🖤
I loved the "clink clink" sound of NASCAR motors starting up
So glad to see another one of these!
thank god im not the only person who appreciate starter motor sound, especially those BMWs R9T/R1200R/R1200GS K50s electric starter motor
I have to agree that I like both the sound of inertia and air starters. Spring starters are pretty cool too but no 'sound' to speak of. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate you & your efforts to delve into even the weirdest, out-of-the-mainstream stuff at times. This is great content & needs no apology. Keep it up.
I love this channel... The more strange and obscure the engines are you talk about, the more I learn!
One of the best channels on TH-cam! You should start another channel where you try to find examples of these strange vehicles... I click on a visioracer video IMMEDIATELY every time I see a new one!
You wont be running out of material anytime soon. Far too much to go over when it comes to engines and the various systems that the manufacturers cooked up. Great stuff this video. Keep up the good work
John Deere had a lot of models that used auxillary gas engines to start the diesel engines. Cool video!!!!!
I love vids like these because I used to be a heavy duty mechanic for a shop that maintained and restored old farm/construction equipment and I've worked on plenty of equipment with cool types of starters. My favorite is the shot gun shell starter👍
The combination of two of the systems in the video also exists.
One is a pony engine which charges air cylinders for the startup of the main engine is used on many ships.
The other I know is the Ruston & Hornsby 165DS shunter locomotive I worked with, that used a 1 cylinder pony engine to start the 6-inline diesel, the pony engine had to be started with a heavy hand cranked wheel.
You had to spin up that wheel and when it spun fast enough you had to engage a dog clutch to start the pony engine, so this is an inertia starter and safer than a direct hand crank start as you have your hand off the crank when you engage the wheel with the engine.
When the pony engine was running you could start the main engine with it.
Because the main engine also had a manual oil pump to bring oil into the engine before starting and a manual fuel pump to fill up a header tank from which the engine was gravity fed you could start it without having a working battery.
The loco had an electric system to run lighting and the instrument panel, and an electric fuel pump and stop valve which took over once the engine was running
I didn't realise you'd done another video about starters. I love the sound of just about all these, especially the Mack air starters and the inertia plane engine starters!
I remember rewinding that bit in Mad Max 2 where he was starting the Mack tractor unit over and over as it sounded so good! I believe that system could also use air tyre pressure to start, nifty!
Thanks for your great videos, always informative and interesting!
you NEVER cease to amaze me man,....ALWAYS something cool and new to me, and i am a gear head...i wrote this comment before the ending of the video,....lol,...that was weird,...you do never run out of ideas man.
Holy shit! That's our red Mack! Thank you for including one of our videos in your own! That's cool!
I just found this and I love it. To hear an engine start is just awesome thank you.
Propeller-Planes usually have sweet sounding starter motors. My dad's 1975 Piper Cherokee Warrior has a 5.4L Flat-4 engine and it sounds *awesome* whenever he starts it up.
Not a "desperate " video at all. Your videos are some the best on here. Keep doing what your doing. I love watching your videos. As a petrol head. ALL your videos keep me well entertained. So thank you and keep up the great work. Looking forward to many more.
I've always loved the sound of a 2stroke Detroit Diesel starter, very distinctive.
My old E34 530i V8 had that "spool up" starter sound which was awesome
That JD v4 sound so good 👍 sounds like an old sport car from the 60s
The pony motors on the John Deere tractors are super rare. I have started a 820 diesel with one and it is a process for sure.
The SR-71 Blackbird had twin Buick Nailheads on a cart for a starter. 14 liters just to get its jets spinning. I love it.
I love the sound of an inertial starter. On diesels, my brother (the truck mechanic) told me the latest pre-heaters to assist starting diesels are large heating coils in the intake manifold. They heat the incoming air charge which makes for a faster, easier start. The only thing is, you NEVER use starting fluid, you'll blow the intake manifold apart.
I love to hear the sound of an old air starter!
Very interesting! The inertial starter was the most unusual to me.
There is something special about starting an engine, when you were able to start ist and the Sound it makes. Those Videos are Just as intetesting as your Other Videos, keep Up the great Work!
Potential energy and kinetic energy. Springs, air pressure, electrical, supplemental engines, rotating flywheels. All pretty cool stuff.
Interesting the Pony engine start for John Deer tractors you featured in your vid is all the the guys I plow with every year, they are located about 40 miles from my house and we plan to start plowing this again as always in about 2 weeks from now! What a surprise to see all my friends in your video!
Funny my coworker just spoke about a John Deere lawnmower that had a motor so he could start the real motor, I never heard of that before and here is this video. Hopefully I can check out his tractor soon.
Spring starters were also used in the tiny Cox engines, which were as small as .010 cubic inches, but more commonly .049 cubic inches. There was a spring around the shaft with a hook on it, and you'd hook it around the propeller, turn the engine backwards a couple of times, and release.
FOR YEARS N YEARS
I HAD HEARD THE SOUND OF SOME OF THE WW2 PLANES CRANKING UP AND COULDN'T FOR THE LIFE OF FIGURE OUT WHAT MADE THE HIGH
PITCH CRANK SOUND N NOW I KNO
THANK U SIR N KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB
I recall a series of vids of the International Harverster DIESEL dozer with a compression lever that changed the ratio, making the engine able to run on GAS and using just car-like battery to start. It had distributor, sparkplug coil and for the diesel, a mechanical injetion pump. Once it was on temperature, they push the lever to change the compression ratio. The engine running on gas had enough power to move the machine. Not to operate it, just to move it. Pretty clever also, one engine for all.
The 4 cylinder gas that was used in the M was able to drive when running off only 1 cylinder.
You make great videos. Please keep making such interesting content! I live the sound and sights of engines starting.
That two stroke petrol sound coming from that dozer is hurting my mind.
Inertia starters sound so cool, like the hyperdrive failing on the millennium falcon. Would love to see them again in a future video
i dont know why, but i absolutely love the starter motor sound of a 12th gen f150.
maybe it's nostalgia or something, but it's just so good.
Love you man been watching your videos for a long time. Thank you for all your time and effort you've put into everything you do and have done.
The inertia starters on those aircraft radials is such a great sound
I always wondered what the noise was in inertial starters. Great video, thanks.
Decades ago I took the idea of a relatives 730 JD with the pony motor and applied it to grandad's stationary Blackstone engine...well sorta, I put a 3 groove pulley on his tiller and cut a hole in the cover so one groove was convienantly sticking out and he could run the tiller over to the engine which was used out from the garden anyway for his mill and run a belt from the Blackstone to the tiller and pull back on the tiller to apply pressure on the belt until the Blackstone finally fired off then push the tiller few and remove the belt, it worked like a charm
I use to be so fascinated with that ol Blackstone I'd absolutely love to have it or one like it, a passerby made dad a very generous offer one day and he sold it when I was a teen ,grandad would keep all his oil from oil changes in a barrel and he had a mix he liked of mostly used motor oil slightly diluted with kerosene he ran in that thing it was the most simple basic concept you could imagine
This is why I love your channel; cool stuff that other channels don't cover.
I love your channel when I found it, it was all about race cars but after you showed ma the love of all kinds of powered vehicles and power unit around the world I fell in love, thank you and God bless you keep them coming I look forward to the next video !
Thank you, Sam!
I love the way the Suzuki Jimny Stater Motor sounds.
the air starter was also used on a few detroit 2 stroke diesels, a glorious sound to go with a glorious engine no doubt
Your absolutely correct, the start is the best part. Keep up the good work