@@Domiyu the opposite is true. What she said was amusing, but incorrect. Perfect practice makes perfect performance. For example, if you're trying to learn a song cover, but you do it wrong 1,000 times, when it comes time to actually play, you'll fail. The whole point behind practice is to improve, not to duplicate your mistakes.
Also, keep in mind that the verse "men shall not lay by men" was a mistranslation. The origional version was "men shall not lay with boy" which is a warning against pedophilia.
Feno 3000--Ah, but the holy spirit is part of the triune god and since god can do anything.... By the way, the power of the holy spirit overshadowed Mary. If you watch enough Ancient Aliens DVDs, you'll learn that THEY believe that Mary was impregnated by aliens during an abduction conducted by beings using "misunderstood technology".
Okay storytime. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. When I was around 13( I'm 17 now) I started figuring out that I was bisexual. I hated myself for it and tried to pretend it wasn't true. My ,as my parents called them, "worldly" friends always pointed out the moments where I would sound or act interested in a guy and it only served to infuriate me because they accepted me but I couldn't. Desprate for answers I ran to my "Young People Ask" book and turnes to this article.....and after reading it ran all over the house looking for something to kill myself with. I remember feeling so defeated so much despair.....that was in 2014 for 3 long years my attempts continued, my depression got worse and worse, and all the while I still believed that "Jehovah God" was with me trying to help me. The moment I had enough information to say that God didn't exist, or at least the god or my parents didn't, two different things happened; one: I paniced and fell into a slightly deeper depression because EVERYTHING I had based reality on for the 16 years of my life I didn't believe anymore. Two: I ran off in the middle of the night to my best friends house and we called a guy we knew. The first thing I did when he got there was kiss him and tell him I had a massive suppressed crush on him but since god is bullshit why should I lie to myself anymore. My family still hates me for being Bi and they always try to say "You can change just use self control" welp I didn't fucking choose to be bi, I didn't choose to be hated by my family, but I do choose not to let it get to me anymore. Oh and added on to that so did I just M-word half way since I'm only half gay according to them? Because I'm 100% that I M-worded all the way 😂
To mr Slimey, I wish for the best for you! We can't let religion control real people's lives (Edit- I put "me slimey" instead of "mr" cos I'm slow in the head)
A Christian I knew once told me that Jesus had to have been gay because the Bible states he was “tempted by Judas with a kiss.” I certainly would never have interpreted the verses like that, but I’m all for it. 😂
I’m glad you have found this channel. I’m an ex-Mormon and discovering this channel and others like it have changed my life. Keep your head up and know you are not alone ❤️
I'm also trans and gay and I'm currently still living with my parents who are JWs.. I used to be too, even got baptised with 13 but left when I was 15. I'm not excommunicated yet which is weird considering that I broke all kinds of their rules, but now that I'm about to take hormones, they want to throw me out. I feel unsafe and I'm stuck in the middle of an apprenticeship where I don't earn anything yet. Being a JW, other JWs and leaving the congregation deeply scarred and traumatized me. I only now (with 23) am starting to talk about it, to other family members as well who aren't JWs (my parents are the only ones who joined 15 years ago) and they're deeply shocked about what's really going on bc they didn't know and my parents have been lying about it. I discovered your videos just a few days ago but they already helped me so much and I deeply appreciate them and your hard work. They're the reason I want to speak out and talk about my horrible experiences. Thank you so much for doing this
Ranouken thank you for sharing your story, I wasn’t ever JW but have incredibly religious and homophobic parents it’s hard to live with them and be true to myself people like you sharing their stories really help to make me feel not so alone Thank you so much, stay strong I wish you all the best ❤️
I'm bi, and one day I was cornered into telling my parents. They just reacted like I was misguided, and that I wasnt really bi. They told me that they were just desires that Satan was making me feel because he wanted me away from Christ. I wanted to throw up, because from then on I knew that they would never accept the true me. It terrifies me if I have a relationship with someone, because now they act like I never said anything and that I was suddenly turned back straight or something. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I know what it feels like to be oppressed and held away from what I truly am and it's one of the worst pains i have ever been through.
Jesus (if he ever existed) never said anything about homosexuals, tell your parents that. Your parents are mentally ill due to religious brainwashing, very sad.
What your parents is right and correct. You're clearly an misguided soul being led into sin and darkness that clearly you don't want to repent from. If you want your parents to respect you then respect yourself and stop being an bisexual and be straight. Easier said than done but you need an deep psychological assessment ASAP.
@@gunnyo50 Ah, yes, thank you very much. My eyes have been opened. I am clearly mentally disabled for having these feelings and for going away from a lifestyle that Satan is fooling me into not wanting. I should apologize to my parents, for I have been cruel in not letting them control my life. Yes, thank you random person on the internet for making it clear that what people are is not what they truly are, but only things in their heads that Satan is making them feel.
When I was a young JW I was struggling with my sexuality and like any other good witness would, I went to the literature that had been given to us. I went to the YPA 2 where it had the "Am I Gay?" chapter. It was the first time I ever remember ever having an anxiety attack. Reading about how I'm unnatural and how I can't be gay made me freak out. I had no idea what to do. I started panicking and next thing I knew I blacked out and when I came to I was standing in the middle of my room with a huge gash on the top of my foot. Still have no idea what happened...
I'm not gay.... I just really like cute girls! But seriously this it's wrong to try to repress urges such as those, I mean I used to do it because I thought it was wrong and it caused some minor backlash on me
@@aguilarraliuga1777 how about you control or suppress your attraction to the opposite gender? No? Then shut up and leave people to live their lives in a healthy way when it doesn't affect you in the slightest.
Romans 1:26-27 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. In this verse you can see lesbianism is also condenmed, but for some reason, the Bible focuses on male homosexuality WAY more.
Reasonable Man you are. You are pure in your own mind... Brainwashing your "little "witnesses.... It's your way or the highway, and your title, "Reasonable Man",is a joke! 🦄
Brant and Chara no I meant as in like a mentor or teacher or even family member I text him on face book about JWs and I give him info about my kingdom hall plus I'm a minor and he's not my type lol
I said that I liked him cause he's so supportive of the lgbt+ community and understand how us gay kids feel when we're stuck in a JW household without having him himself to be gay and he's hoping that is gay kids know that were not so bad
I would like to point out that the Leviticus 20:13 in some translations (especially the Lutheran one) reads "if a man lies with a boy" instead of "if a man lies with a man" (I'm sorry if it's not the literal wording, english isn't my first language, therefore my Bible also isn't in english). Meaning that verse would, at least in that translation, go against pedophilia, not homosexuality. I'm not claiming that's the correct translation - as I'm not a biblical scholar and don't speak ancient hebrew - but I like to put that out there as an argument against people that use that verse against homosexuality. It's at the very least up to interpretation since there's multiple versions of it out there.
Tacklepig--Yes and one of the earlier translations says that Jonah wasn't swallowed by a whale, but by a "behemoth". Another translation calls the critter "leviathan".
Oneercilesming The post I was responding to stated that there was a translation that had Leviticus 20:13 as saying “if a man lies with boy”. I was asking for that source cause I, personally, am not familiar with one. No need to be rude about it.
@@Mabeylater293 It's not rude to respond as I did. If your skin is that thin, then you aren't grown up enough to be commenting on TH-cam. By the way, the SOURCE for the Leviticus 20:13 is just what it says it is: Leviticus 20:13. Pick a translation. They're on line and easy to look up, assuming you can perform a search engine and are willing to read more than the first three words. No, that's not rude, either. Run along now. Have a nice life. You're being IGNORED.
As someone who is openly bisexual I hear both sides telling me that it’s a choice, and it for sure is not. I’m told all the time that I make the choice and that I’m not who I say I am just because I’m with one person or another. It drives me insane.
If you have gay friends telling you that being bi is a choice, and that you need to "pick a side" then you gotta get new friends. I understand that not all gay people are fully educated on how sexual orientation works, and skepticism about bisexuality and even outright discrimination against bisexuality is a thing in the gay community. However, fortunately that only represents a portion of us. I'm gay, and I've never even met another gay person who thinks that way about bi people. Of course I know those people are out there, but I'm just saying, many, or perhaps even most, of us are entirely welcoming and understanding.
PandaKitty damn I’m sorry I hear shit like that all the time it sucks I hope one day people don’t make assumptions like that anymore and just don’t care what you identify as so long you’re happy
One MercilessMing The teen that leaned on the breasts of Christ? yep! Most favorite disciple. Most favorite gospel account. Wrote the book of Revelation....
It is clear they did. And likely because Leviticus was about separating the Jews from the Cananites. The latter of which used sex of all kinds to worship their deity, Moloch. The beginning of the chapter says so. Note how it leaves out woman on woman sex too. It is saying to not use sex to worship "God." Neither verse speaks of orientation or same gender *love*, just of a sexual act that, at the time was seen by the Jews to be used for pagan idol worship.
Do you know what repression did to me? It filled me with hate, vile, vile hate and contempt for humanity, and even more so contempt for myself. When I stopped repressing myself in my heart my heart filled with love and mercy. Though I have not come out yet, accepting myself has made me a better person and a better Christian. I am Transgender.
I love your videos! I wasn’t raised JW but had friends who were. Their parents didn’t know we were friends. I saw the toll that the cult, I mean church, was taking on them. It’s sad that people can let an organization take complete control of someone’s thoughts, actions and souls. Keep up the great work !
I remember when I was young I had my first girl crush ever (I’m a girl) and I felt terrible, everyday I would convince myself that this wasn’t real and god hated me. Day after day I would obsess over the fact I didn’t like her. ( I ended up dating her) but i grew into an older person who is okay and open with my sexuality. I opened up to my mom 4 times and she still doesn’t believe me. My mom took me away from everyone and i haven’t been able to have a friend for 4 years. The friends I do have now are all in secret. My mom blames me for not making friends and gets angry at me! But I can’t force a friendship I don’t want
Even if they were saying “hate the sin not the sinner” that doesn’t work with homosexuality. Being gay is your identity not an action. So by hating the “sin” they are in fact hating the “sinner”.
I've left this religion for about a year now, well faded really and not formally disfellowshipped yet and I really really needed this video. I've always been made to feel like utter garbage because of my sexuality and that god and everyone i knew found me repulsive. I felt that all the sisters I had platonic affection with would come to hate me or feel sick around me if they found out I liked women instead of men. Leaving the cult I came to accept myself more and I have a wonderful girlfriend now but those damaging thoughts stay with you. They truly just continue to eat away at you no matter how long its been. I'm not out to my family yet but I know I might lose them for sure for being gay. I really needed this video and especially the part where you stated that homosexuality is about who you love, who you're emotionally connected to, not who you want to have sex with. The connotation of gay = sexual made me feel so dirty when truly its just about who you love. And I also appreciated you explaining that gay isn't a choice. I've tried my whole life to like men but I just don't. I've damaged myself and felt too much self loathing trying to force heterosexuality onto myself and I am glad I can finally heal. Thanks again, your videos have really helped me. It was your videos that helped me wake up to see what true horror this cult is and how toxic and evil it is. I can't imagine a better life.
tee brinner The error of what? Leaving a cult? Being true to myself? Finding happiness? I'm living my best life now and I've never been happier. Maybe you should try it too :)
Thanks for this video, I came out at 14 to my parents and had to go to a judicial committee where the elders asked me the oddest questions and gave me advice on how to turn straight based on stereotypes of gay men like to talk like a man and walk like a man. Videos like this have helped me see through their lies and know that there’s nothing wrong with me.
There are 3 facts you forgot to state 1: hunny it was either adam and Steve, or lily and eve and if you disagree, you better leave 2: THE TAP WATER IS A GAY BOMB! IT MAKES THE FREAKING FROGS GAY 3: jezuz man had 2 dads, so yeh
When my parents found out I was trans they burned my stash of girl clothes and forced me and my boyfriend apart and isolated me from the outside world and had me get therapy from our pastor. Then when they found me trying to hook up with him again they tried to throw me out of the house. We never did anything wrong, never hurted anyone and he was super sweet and loving. Religion sucks sometimes :/
Lesbian raised witness here who's been offically out of the religion for.. a couple weeks, tops after a long struggle of debating what i belived in and struggling with the fact that i was 'wrong and dirty' for realizing i liked women. i've been watching a lot of videos lately from ex jws now that i don't feel like its just 'a trap' or whatever bullshit they tell us any info outside of the website is- and from the bottom of my heart, thank you. i won't go on some long rant, but its nice to really feel seen
Have you watched Furies, by Down the rabbit hole? It's a deep dive into the culters historyand it's really good. th-cam.com/video/8aF2GxWi7Ag/w-d-xo.html Also Small Beans Production is making a movie about Michael Swan's dad who a few years ago came out as a gay fury (small bean's -formally Cracked...kinda)
It's not about gays, it's about when you try to use that to control my population, that's what I got a problem with, if you wanna fuck somebody in the ass it's your business, but how it affects society & how it affects the minds of the generation that comes behind us, I don't give a fuck what you do, but it affect my babies and my universal family, that's what I have a problem
I'm really glad to hear your understanding of how homosexuals feel. I really appreciate that you don't think we can overcome it through effort or prayer and I hope to all that is good that someone trapped in a religion and is trying to deny their sexuality watches this.
This is the most interesting video i ever watched. Please 🙏 DONT delete this video on TH-cam. You know the verses by heart and You debunked the most religious questions on sexuality I been struggling to debunk myself. Im encouraged and gladly to share this video and recommended people to subscribe to you. Thank you for making this video 🙏
Hey! I used to be that jahovahs witness gay guy your talking about. But i left the organization around a year ago. I used to feel so sad, dirty, impure, disgusting, lonely And unworthy for being gay, that i even thought about killing myself. But thankfully i started noticing how wrong they were, And your videos And Jhon Cedar's had a lot to do with it. Now i feel happy and good with myself and now i know being gay doesnt make me a bad person or less important than anybody else. So, thank You so much for helping me geting a better life 😉
My mom just told me to answer the door like 20 minutes or so ago and it was a young child and her mother and they were Jehovah's witnesses. I may or may not also be wearing a bunch of Pride stuff, a shirt, bracelets. The little girl looked kinda scared
I’m a lesbian and I grew up catholic, I started having doubts about my religion around 6th grade when I found out I was gay and I’ve been an atheist ever since. feeling guilty and resisting urges makes you feel horrible and depressed. just be who you are and don’t let any organization change you
For me I had something really bad happen to me by a couple girls. For me I kept telling myself that no matter what I would never be like those people. But deep down I wanted to be in a relationship with a girl. But I told myself if I gave in I was like those girls that hurt me. Then I found out that one of the girls actually thought it was okay with me, when itwas not, I was young, I didnt know what was happening. And when I found that out, and that the other girl was now a boy I let myself believe that one of them was not a girl and that the other meant no harm and I let myself feel the way i feel. But i still told myself i could never act on it because of articles like this, I am now, finally, letting myself want a relationship with a girl and not fighting it. And that is why I finally got the courage to leave.
This is a great video, and pretty much everything you said I agreed with. There was only one problem. “Make friends who won’t love you DESPITE your homosexuality, but BECAUSE of it.” I don’t think you should make friends with someone just because they’re gay. It would’ve been better if it said “Make friends who love you REGARDLESS of your sexuality.” Just a little nitpicky thing, but overall great video! Thank you!
Thank you for making these videos!! My parents and my dads family were Jehovah’s Witnesses back in the late 60’s and 70’s. When my mom and dad joined they told them they smoked and the elders said that’s ok as long as you don’t smoke at the Hall. Of course they didn’t. There was a change of elders and the new group was against smoking of any kind...but drinking was ok! Long story short, my mom and dad were disfellowshipped and it was traumatic for all involved. Luckily I was young and wasn’t baptized into the cult and yes it’s a fucking cult. What little taste I had of it was horrible and that experience sent me into a search for the truth. What I found was all the modern Abrahamic faiths are shames!! All are cults designed to dumb down and control people.
You have lead me to the truth, you are the pope to the atheist community, and I admire you with more than words can express. You teach logic and truth, not idiocy and lies. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Just had them knock on my door yesterday, Two elderly ladies for a change. I live in north Wales, United Kingdom. I'm always polite but that just makes them talk more. It's hard to be polite, especially after watching your videos. They left me with their Watchtower magazine, which probably means they will be back.
I was getting Bible study with a JW a few years ago, because I was thinking of going back but wasn't sure, the lady told me that she ran into a gay while preaching, and he asked her if they hate gays. She told me that her response was that God doesn't Hate them, and then he said "but JWs do" she also said "no, we welcome everyone, even gays but you can't act on it." That was last time I had her come over to give me Bible study.
@@alexx3477 lol pretty much. I was just dumbfounded when she said that. Oh, off topic, she brought a lady with her once and I mentioned I was working a lot of overtime in hopes of buying a house instead of renting, bitch said "why?! You're better off renting because it's not going to be here in the new world"
Well, I'm gay and an ex-JW, and it almost ended in suicide. My boyfriend grew up in a non-religious household and just doesn't get it, but I'm glad he never had to go through what I did. Thanks for the thoughtful video.
It takes time, man. Before I found him, I was single for six years. Stick with it, eventually your man will come along. It can take awhile. Never give up. I nearly did, and then I found the love of my life.
I remember reading that section in the book. I was a witness. I left church when I realized that what I am isn't wrong. I'm a openly Gay Women. I'm proud I'm fully living my life.
One thing I realised was that: I liked a lot of girl characters when growing up, thinking they looked beautiful or cute. But before I actually found out I didn't just like boys I didn't seem to remember liking them as much as I actually did. There was this one moment where a friend of mine (my girlfriend now) kissed me on the cheek and obviously I remembered it that day but after that I had just forgotten. Until when we were together after I had found out, I realised I had gotten a crush on her. And when I found out I had a crush on her I remembered those feelings I felt when she kissed my cheek. I remembered thinking "Why do I feel so warm? Why am I blushing? I hope no-one can see that I'm blushing. Why did I find her pretty when I first saw her in a long time? Why?". And when I remembered all that again I understood that any feeling towards women were just completely "forgotten" by me since I wasn't supposed to feel that way.
Oops, really long. My point was: I think a lot of gay/bi kids in this "religion" end up repressing their feelings because those feelings are "not supposed to be there". I know I did.
Great video Telltale, thank you for helping to spread the truth about gay people not lies like religion does. I'm sure you are helping many gay JWs and many other gay people from different evil religions.
I’m married to an amazing woman, and I just left jws 2 Years ago. I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER AND IM LEARNING A LOT. What still confuses me tho, is how some ex jws STILL judge me for being lesbian or throw subliminal messages at me so I can return to Religion. I left so I can enjoy my free-will. Not to attach myself to another cult or religion.
Reproduction isnt a fear. Firstly the population Will grow to 10 billion people around 2100, secondly reproduction methods is going to get even more crazy in the future. You dont need to have intercourse today to make a child
There is a video where a researcher shows how the anti gay verse in Leviticus actually started out condoning homosexuality. Hammerabi (not sure the spelling) channel has it and I believe John Cedars channel shows a link to it. It was researched by a Jewish scholar.
If it was a choice to be gay or bi or what ever u are, u think people would choose the lifestyle when then know the hatred and hurt people can put, risk of being murdered and abused? Seriously, I don't get how people can accept it as a natural thing in this world. There is a sexual gene proven and it is shown that sexual tendencies can happen in anyone on anyone, no matter what interests are there.
Hey telltale, have you ever read Ellen Hopkins? She's a realistic fiction writer. Her poem books are really good. If you haven't I'd suggest reading Burned. It's about a Mormon girl named Pattyn who has been sent away to live with her aunt for the summer. I don't want to say anymore about it, for fear of accidentally spoiling it, but you should really give it a read.
My grandma is friends with a JW woman who’s keeps trying to convert her. I went over one day and when she saw me, I swear she thought she saw Sin incarnate walk through the door. Rainbow hair, no bra, pajamas, wearing a panda Godzilla monster shooting rainbows and lighting over the city of Tokyo shirt..... Then as fast as the look of horror came, she smiled and handed me one of those Join The JW pamphlet BS things.... It was REALLY convincing... IF you’re someone with an IQ of 100 and under or desperate for acceptance. Thankfully I am neither and I know how manipulative and fluffed up those things always are. They were LITERALLY promising me cures for all of my problems. Saying things like “There’s always hope, you are not alone.” Like uuuuuuh, I think I might rather be alone than with company like that so uh... nooooo. If there’s a God, someone has definitely set a curve in the grading system already..... I think I’ll be okay.... if not, well I’m already suffering right now, what’s an eternity in Hell? I’ve gotten pretty good at dealing with absolute agony, so I probably won’t even notice I’m there........ plus all the hot gay girls will be there, so it won’t be all bad... lol
My best friend is currently struggling with her sexuality, and I'm the only person she's been able to confide in. Though we both grew up in Mormon households, there were some distinct differences between us. I never really believed, and started seriously questioning at a young age. I've always valued truth the most, so, even if I lost the support of my family, I would have chosen truth. But I was lucky enough to be born into a family with parents who accept homosexuality. Unfortunately for me, I'm asexual, which is harder for them to accept, but they still support me. My friend is less lucky. She's extremely close with her family, who are VERY religious. They mean well, but sometimes I cringe when I'm around them. She, too, has always been very religious. Still, she's my best friend, and the first person I came out to about my atheism. So she came out to me. About her homosexuality. And over the past not-even-quite-a-year, I've been forced to helplessly watch her try and reconcile her sexuality with her religion- and with her family. She's absolutely terrified of her family learning about it- she doesn't want distance between them, which may very well happen. At the same time, she goes to church and seminary and all that, and it HURTS HER. She came out of seminary the other day in tears. They'd been talking about families, which have to be a man, woman, and children. She told me the teacher's language was rather precise, and she felt... like she didn't belong, or was doing something wrong, or something. I've never had to deal with what she's going through, and I have no idea how to help her. I CAN"T help her. I can only be there for her. But seeing for myself how religion can absolutely tear people apart like this has really solidified to me that this IS a problem, currently, not just in the past. I got LUCKY with my parents, but some people aren't that lucky. I just hope that anyone else who's going through what my friend is can find someone to confide in. Hang in there; don't let anyone tell you that you are somehow wrong for how you feel.
Yet again, they have yet to prove why anyone should even listen to their god. You want to know the real punchline? There are people who have theorized that Paul himself may have been gay. :3
I’m a bisexual man, I wasn’t in Jehovah’s Witness but I was an evangelical Christian when I was younger. It was tough, I hated myself and thought I was broken and I forced myself to be in denial of my same sex attractions. It was horrible and I am still healing from the damage purity culture has done to me.
correlation is not causation. There is lots of music and art without gay people. It#s just a field of employment that is especially attractive to many with your sensibilities. That does not make you indispensable for its existence. We would just have to kick a few car designers or architects out of those fields early during their studies :-p those are mostly straight anyways Also having mostly LGBT designers is not always a good thing... just take the clusterfuck of unwearable abominations that is the "high fashion" LOL or the downward spiral of ridiculousness going on in hairstyling.
0816 M3RC Yep, it's time to move on to Greater things.... Religion is rust of the soul. Rotten to the core..... Tossed into the garage can. Just don't give up on true Divinity, I say.... 🐦
@@0816M3RC I agree, but it seems a slight nonsequitur to the post you are answering to. Did you actually interpret my cheeky "not SO important as you think" post as homophobic or religiously motivated? well my bad.. but it is neither. I just can't stand secular hubris either when it tries to hyperbole better than religious delusion ever possibly could ;-)
In high school 3 of my classmates were Jehovahs Witnesses (all 3 female) and they always tried to convert me by giving me their books or their Watch Tower pamphlets. They also shamed me for reading horror and fantasy books or even for listening to Kerli, Metallica etc. They even showed me and my other classmates their video theories on Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings (or even about the planet Saturn and it's relation with Satan???). But the worst is about homosexuality I couldn't understand how they hated my guts (at the time I was a closed bisexual) and I once found myself crying in the bathroom bc of what they said when we were studying Oscar Wild. It hurt me so bad. This is also why I don't talk to them anymore, bc I know they'll try to convert me again.
My mom overheard the "practicing homosexuality" bit and just responded with, "Practice makes perfect."
What do you think putin did?
Your mom is hilarious 😂
lol i want your mum 😂
What she said is true but rofl that got me off guard.
@@Domiyu the opposite is true. What she said was amusing, but incorrect. Perfect practice makes perfect performance. For example, if you're trying to learn a song cover, but you do it wrong 1,000 times, when it comes time to actually play, you'll fail. The whole point behind practice is to improve, not to duplicate your mistakes.
I am a lesbian. So I am not going to lay with a man as I would lay with a woman.
nice
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OH FUCK, SHE CRACKED THE CODE
I'm bi, but so long as I don't have piv sex with a trans man, am I really lying with a man as I would a woman?
Heck yeah, being lesbian rocks!!
Also, keep in mind that the verse "men shall not lay by men" was a mistranslation. The origional version was "men shall not lay with boy" which is a warning against pedophilia.
Well then I see why those priests don't want the correct translation to get through.
@@edwinbrown7333 I just realized that and that's hilarious. You can't frick someone like a woman if they have no vagina!
@@UltimatePerfection But if you think about it this way, anal is highly looked down upon in religious beliefs.
Raging Fangirl WHHOAAAAH HOLY SHIT they changed its meaning COMPLETLY
Or against pederasty
Technically, didn’t Jesus have 2 dads?
Technically he had NONE as it is said Mary was impregnated magically by the Holy spirit... Ghosts cannot bodily perform sexual acts, so...
Feno 3000 That’s the Bible for ya
RainyProductions--Like many children today, Jesus had a dad (god) and a step-dad (Joseph the Carpenter). If you believe that sort of thing.
Feno 3000--Ah, but the holy spirit is part of the triune god and since god can do anything.... By the way, the power of the holy spirit overshadowed Mary. If you watch enough Ancient Aliens DVDs, you'll learn that THEY believe that Mary was impregnated by aliens during an abduction conducted by beings using "misunderstood technology".
That's true for Mormonism. They literally believe God fucked Mary... God literally came to earth, just to have sex with a young lady, very creepy.
I’m at a gay wedding and yaweh isn’t striking anyone down soooo
Syd Derp Hope its gay as fuck!!!
Why are you on TH-cam instead of watching the ceremony lol
Tell me how it went
Sounds like fun!
@Michael Persico They were talking in the present tense dingus lol
I don’t care as long as it is between two consenting adults.
You deserve more likes
Why does Yahweh hate his own creations?
Stupid.
How do you follow your bible & it states that the moon have his own light & you know it's wrong
I wish that's the attitude all people had.
@@katherinesaeed5534 Thank you.
I have a bone to pick with you Mr Telltale. Ever since I started watching your videos regularly, I keep getting Jehovah's Witnesses ads on TH-cam
have you tried adblock
If you have Android, use TH-cam vanced. It's a free modded version of the TH-cam app that blocks all ads
O.o
Yeah, they target people on TH-cam with ads to try and get them to join the cult
But we can get into the kingdom of God
We just have to put our gay into a bag and drop it before the metaldetector
Facts
Does that mean we get it back after the metal detector?
Felix Schneider macccccc yesss
@@rileycoyote4924 It's a reference to a Johovah's Witness cartoon series. th-cam.com/video/nAFVTRCy-VY/w-d-xo.html this is the episode.
@Riley Jones
I think so.
Okay storytime. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. When I was around 13( I'm 17 now) I started figuring out that I was bisexual. I hated myself for it and tried to pretend it wasn't true. My ,as my parents called them, "worldly" friends always pointed out the moments where I would sound or act interested in a guy and it only served to infuriate me because they accepted me but I couldn't. Desprate for answers I ran to my "Young People Ask" book and turnes to this article.....and after reading it ran all over the house looking for something to kill myself with. I remember feeling so defeated so much despair.....that was in 2014 for 3 long years my attempts continued, my depression got worse and worse, and all the while I still believed that "Jehovah God" was with me trying to help me. The moment I had enough information to say that God didn't exist, or at least the god or my parents didn't, two different things happened; one: I paniced and fell into a slightly deeper depression because EVERYTHING I had based reality on for the 16 years of my life I didn't believe anymore. Two: I ran off in the middle of the night to my best friends house and we called a guy we knew. The first thing I did when he got there was kiss him and tell him I had a massive suppressed crush on him but since god is bullshit why should I lie to myself anymore. My family still hates me for being Bi and they always try to say "You can change just use self control" welp I didn't fucking choose to be bi, I didn't choose to be hated by my family, but I do choose not to let it get to me anymore. Oh and added on to that so did I just M-word half way since I'm only half gay according to them? Because I'm 100% that I M-worded all the way 😂
You can prove homosexuality it’s not a sin using the watchtower’ s own publications. Did u know that?
TruAgape1234
Fuck off
To mr Slimey, I wish for the best for you! We can't let religion control real people's lives
(Edit- I put "me slimey" instead of "mr" cos I'm slow in the head)
I didn’t even expect it could do so much harm on someone. Wow. Thank you for this story.
SlimeyT9 _ stay strong I’m very proud of you, wonderful stranger❤️
Jesus didn't say a word about homosexuality. I have a theory for that. Maybe all this time Jesus was gay and he was actually saying "Ah men".
you are my new hero
It's raining men! HALLELUJAH!
A Christian I knew once told me that Jesus had to have been gay because the Bible states he was “tempted by Judas with a kiss.” I certainly would never have interpreted the verses like that, but I’m all for it. 😂
XD
Genius
I used to be a jehovahs witness, now I'm bisexual and transgender.
Nice try, governing body 😎
MagiZombi ayyy good job
@@mothersandfuckersofthejury Good for you, not sure what the Governing body have to do with it
Fuckin’ gottem
@@mothersandfuckersofthejury I'm glad you're living as yourself :)
You are your own governing body 😎
>Discusses homosexuality
>Draws Cloud Strife
Well played, sir. Well played.
I genuinely cried at the end of this video. I'm a lesbian growing up in a Jehovah's Witness home and... Thank you man it just. Means so fucking much.
I’m glad you have found this channel. I’m an ex-Mormon and discovering this channel and others like it have changed my life. Keep your head up and know you are not alone ❤️
I'm also trans and gay and I'm currently still living with my parents who are JWs.. I used to be too, even got baptised with 13 but left when I was 15. I'm not excommunicated yet which is weird considering that I broke all kinds of their rules, but now that I'm about to take hormones, they want to throw me out. I feel unsafe and I'm stuck in the middle of an apprenticeship where I don't earn anything yet. Being a JW, other JWs and leaving the congregation deeply scarred and traumatized me. I only now (with 23) am starting to talk about it, to other family members as well who aren't JWs (my parents are the only ones who joined 15 years ago) and they're deeply shocked about what's really going on bc they didn't know and my parents have been lying about it. I discovered your videos just a few days ago but they already helped me so much and I deeply appreciate them and your hard work. They're the reason I want to speak out and talk about my horrible experiences. Thank you so much for doing this
Ranouken thank you for sharing your story, I wasn’t ever JW but have incredibly religious and homophobic parents it’s hard to live with them and be true to myself people like you sharing their stories really help to make me feel not so alone
Thank you so much, stay strong I wish you all the best ❤️
"Dont lay with men as you would with women"
So i'm good as a lesbian? Sweet
i've never lay with a woman...so i'm good
I'm bi, and one day I was cornered into telling my parents. They just reacted like I was misguided, and that I wasnt really bi. They told me that they were just desires that Satan was making me feel because he wanted me away from Christ. I wanted to throw up, because from then on I knew that they would never accept the true me. It terrifies me if I have a relationship with someone, because now they act like I never said anything and that I was suddenly turned back straight or something. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I know what it feels like to be oppressed and held away from what I truly am and it's one of the worst pains i have ever been through.
The same thing happened with me and my dad the week before the mermorial.
Jesus (if he ever existed) never said anything about homosexuals, tell your parents that. Your parents are mentally ill due to religious brainwashing, very sad.
Show this video to your parents
What your parents is right and correct. You're clearly an misguided soul being led into sin and darkness that clearly you don't want to repent from. If you want your parents to respect you then respect yourself and stop being an bisexual and be straight. Easier said than done but you need an deep psychological assessment ASAP.
@@gunnyo50 Ah, yes, thank you very much. My eyes have been opened. I am clearly mentally disabled for having these feelings and for going away from a lifestyle that Satan is fooling me into not wanting. I should apologize to my parents, for I have been cruel in not letting them control my life. Yes, thank you random person on the internet for making it clear that what people are is not what they truly are, but only things in their heads that Satan is making them feel.
Much love on telling the teens to "just do it" (m-word)... I have a small addendum to your advice:
Not in public!
*YOU CANNOT STOP ME*
Fuck you watch me
@@wamlythecrabgod2199 no. You can do it. But i won't watch
When I was a young JW I was struggling with my sexuality and like any other good witness would, I went to the literature that had been given to us. I went to the YPA 2 where it had the "Am I Gay?" chapter. It was the first time I ever remember ever having an anxiety attack. Reading about how I'm unnatural and how I can't be gay made me freak out. I had no idea what to do. I started panicking and next thing I knew I blacked out and when I came to I was standing in the middle of my room with a huge gash on the top of my foot. Still have no idea what happened...
Must have stepped on a lego. Those things will kill you if you aren't careful. Honestly though, I think you might have tried something
I'm not gay.... I just really like cute girls!
But seriously this it's wrong to try to repress urges such as those, I mean I used to do it because I thought it was wrong and it caused some minor backlash on me
Anger is natural yet we still repress that
Heretic Hunter
it's not healthy to repress anger though
Skerv ok how about controlling it,
@@aguilarraliuga1777 you deal with it in a healthy way. And anyways anger is a negative emotion, being gay isnt negative
@@aguilarraliuga1777 how about you control or suppress your attraction to the opposite gender? No? Then shut up and leave people to live their lives in a healthy way when it doesn't affect you in the slightest.
I m-worded and I am gay so maybe they are on to something 😂
*hmm...*
I must have gone why too far I ended up as trans
M-word instructions not clear. Put lotiony hand on friend's penis.
Hex713 hahaha saaame
broccoli senpai Ha! Me
If it only says man lie with man as a woman, does that mean I'm free to love women?
this confused me but then i reslized you were a women
Romans 1:26-27 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
In this verse you can see lesbianism is also condenmed, but for some reason, the Bible focuses on male homosexuality WAY more.
God finds that shit hot
Yes
@@anna4aa570 oml XD
I want a rainbow flag pin that says “God loves everyone”
And then I’ll wear it around the JW XD
Bootazumi
Make one...
There’s probably a lot of them!
god loves buttstuff?
Reasonable Man you are.
You are pure in your own mind...
Brainwashing your "little "witnesses....
It's your way or the highway, and your title, "Reasonable Man",is a joke! 🦄
"i hope there is a gay jahovahs witness that sees though this article" *smiles wide*
this is Why I like you
but do you "like like" him?
Brant and Chara no I meant as in like a mentor or teacher or even family member I text him on face book about JWs and I give him info about my kingdom hall plus I'm a minor and he's not my type lol
I said that I liked him cause he's so supportive of the lgbt+ community and understand how us gay kids feel when we're stuck in a JW household without having him himself to be gay and he's hoping that is gay kids know that were not so bad
Chara --_-- I'm clueless dude *faceplam*
To anyone reading this yes I know I didn't get it gosh😂(at least I can laugh at how dumb that was)
I would like to point out that the Leviticus 20:13 in some translations (especially the Lutheran one) reads "if a man lies with a boy" instead of "if a man lies with a man" (I'm sorry if it's not the literal wording, english isn't my first language, therefore my Bible also isn't in english). Meaning that verse would, at least in that translation, go against pedophilia, not homosexuality.
I'm not claiming that's the correct translation - as I'm not a biblical scholar and don't speak ancient hebrew - but I like to put that out there as an argument against people that use that verse against homosexuality. It's at the very least up to interpretation since there's multiple versions of it out there.
Tacklepig--Yes and one of the earlier translations says that Jonah wasn't swallowed by a whale, but by a "behemoth". Another translation calls the critter "leviathan".
Can u provide a source please?
@@Mabeylater293 Fir what? A translation of the Bible that was quoted by someone who lived at the time? Look it up yourself.
Oneercilesming
The post I was responding to stated that there was a translation that had Leviticus 20:13 as saying “if a man lies with boy”. I was asking for that source cause I, personally, am not familiar with one. No need to be rude about it.
@@Mabeylater293 It's not rude to respond as I did. If your skin is that thin, then you aren't grown up enough to be commenting on TH-cam. By the way, the SOURCE for the Leviticus 20:13 is just what it says it is: Leviticus 20:13. Pick a translation. They're on line and easy to look up, assuming you can perform a search engine and are willing to read more than the first three words. No, that's not rude, either. Run along now. Have a nice life. You're being IGNORED.
As someone who is openly bisexual I hear both sides telling me that it’s a choice, and it for sure is not. I’m told all the time that I make the choice and that I’m not who I say I am just because I’m with one person or another. It drives me insane.
If you have gay friends telling you that being bi is a choice, and that you need to "pick a side" then you gotta get new friends. I understand that not all gay people are fully educated on how sexual orientation works, and skepticism about bisexuality and even outright discrimination against bisexuality is a thing in the gay community. However, fortunately that only represents a portion of us. I'm gay, and I've never even met another gay person who thinks that way about bi people. Of course I know those people are out there, but I'm just saying, many, or perhaps even most, of us are entirely welcoming and understanding.
A teacher once called bi people greedy
@@anna4aa570 I mean, they do like both genders so...
PandaKitty damn I’m sorry I hear shit like that all the time it sucks I hope one day people don’t make assumptions like that anymore and just don’t care what you identify as so long you’re happy
Ya I'm also bi, and I've even had friends who would say "so you're 50% straight?" and crap like that.
This is probably the best explanation of homosexuality and the Bible I have ever come across. Great job.
Judith
According to me, no it's not wrong.
Twentynyne
✌💖
according to you ? this isn't subjective. homosexuality is objectively not wrong.
Yas queen
Twentynyne HEY MOM
@@kombat4135 hey son
Did King David and Jonathan have a fling fling?
Jaybird Heimbold--Not only David and Jonathan, but, supposedly, Jesus and John, the disciple whom Jesus loved.
One MercilessMing
The teen that leaned on the breasts of Christ?
yep!
Most favorite disciple.
Most favorite gospel account.
Wrote the book of Revelation....
Feno 3000
And David was said by God,... " A man chosen after my own heart... "
Thanx for the extra nuggets of info too.
Jaybird Heimbold--Also reputed to be on hallucinogenic drugs when he wrote the Book of Revelation.
It is clear they did. And likely because Leviticus was about separating the Jews from the Cananites. The latter of which used sex of all kinds to worship their deity, Moloch. The beginning of the chapter says so. Note how it leaves out woman on woman sex too. It is saying to not use sex to worship "God." Neither verse speaks of orientation or same gender *love*, just of a sexual act that, at the time was seen by the Jews to be used for pagan idol worship.
Do you know what repression did to me? It filled me with hate, vile, vile hate and contempt for humanity, and even more so contempt for myself.
When I stopped repressing myself in my heart my heart filled with love and mercy.
Though I have not come out yet, accepting myself has made me a better person and a better Christian.
I am Transgender.
It's a sad reflection on our society when someone tells people they are trans anonymously on the internet before they tell the ones they love.
@@DarthLiam-gd1wc it is, and I have still not told many of the people I love that I am trans.
Loving how often you upload now! Keep them coming your videos are awesome!
It's not often that I hear a heterosexual person give an apt/accurate description/definition of what it means to be gay, thanks for that!
I love your videos! I wasn’t raised JW but had friends who were. Their parents didn’t know we were friends. I saw the toll that the cult, I mean church, was taking on them. It’s sad that people can let an organization take complete control of someone’s thoughts, actions and souls. Keep up the great work !
I remember when I was young I had my first girl crush ever (I’m a girl) and I felt terrible, everyday I would convince myself that this wasn’t real and god hated me. Day after day I would obsess over the fact I didn’t like her. ( I ended up dating her) but i grew into an older person who is okay and open with my sexuality. I opened up to my mom 4 times and she still doesn’t believe me. My mom took me away from everyone and i haven’t been able to have a friend for 4 years. The friends I do have now are all in secret. My mom blames me for not making friends and gets angry at me! But I can’t force a friendship I don’t want
Has anything changed since then, for the better?
Telltale: "m-word"
Me: Morman?
what is it tho?
@@samwichvr485
Hint. The root of the word comes from the latin term for “to defile with the hand”.
@@happypiano4810 I got it a while ago lmao but thx
@@samwichvr485
Oh, this was a month ago. Sorry.
@@happypiano4810 lol
Even if they were saying “hate the sin not the sinner” that doesn’t work with homosexuality. Being gay is your identity not an action. So by hating the “sin” they are in fact hating the “sinner”.
i would like to thank you for saving me from this cult. i hope someday i can stand up toward my family and they can save themselves as well
I've left this religion for about a year now, well faded really and not formally disfellowshipped yet and I really really needed this video. I've always been made to feel like utter garbage because of my sexuality and that god and everyone i knew found me repulsive. I felt that all the sisters I had platonic affection with would come to hate me or feel sick around me if they found out I liked women instead of men. Leaving the cult I came to accept myself more and I have a wonderful girlfriend now but those damaging thoughts stay with you. They truly just continue to eat away at you no matter how long its been. I'm not out to my family yet but I know I might lose them for sure for being gay.
I really needed this video and especially the part where you stated that homosexuality is about who you love, who you're emotionally connected to, not who you want to have sex with. The connotation of gay = sexual made me feel so dirty when truly its just about who you love. And I also appreciated you explaining that gay isn't a choice. I've tried my whole life to like men but I just don't. I've damaged myself and felt too much self loathing trying to force heterosexuality onto myself and I am glad I can finally heal. Thanks again, your videos have really helped me. It was your videos that helped me wake up to see what true horror this cult is and how toxic and evil it is. I can't imagine a better life.
You will see the error of your ways in time
tee brinner The error of what? Leaving a cult? Being true to myself? Finding happiness? I'm living my best life now and I've never been happier. Maybe you should try it too :)
I couldn't be happier thank you :)
@@teebrinner5939 bruh shut up
@@___idkmynamedoyouknowit___3806 Oh sorry because I don't agree with you? you shut up
Y'all heard of Adam and Steve, but get ready for
MADAM AND EVE
and the asexual or aromantic version would just be Adam (or eve if you're a girl and person if yourr an enby)
Thanks for this video, I came out at 14 to my parents and had to go to a judicial committee where the elders asked me the oddest questions and gave me advice on how to turn straight based on stereotypes of gay men like to talk like a man and walk like a man. Videos like this have helped me see through their lies and know that there’s nothing wrong with me.
There are 3 facts you forgot to state
1: hunny it was either adam and Steve, or lily and eve and if you disagree, you better leave
2: THE TAP WATER IS A GAY BOMB! IT MAKES THE FREAKING FROGS GAY
3: jezuz man had 2 dads, so yeh
Oh fuck
@@pubfries5562 XD
I bet you dream in broken syllables and nicknacks.
idk how to respond XD
I don't know how either
When my parents found out I was trans they burned my stash of girl clothes and forced me and my boyfriend apart and isolated me from the outside world and had me get therapy from our pastor. Then when they found me trying to hook up with him again they tried to throw me out of the house. We never did anything wrong, never hurted anyone and he was super sweet and loving. Religion sucks sometimes :/
Im sorry. * hugs*
oh my gosh, I am so sorry that happened to you. I support you as you are. be strong, stay safe.
I see this comment was from a while ago… I hope things are better for you now
Lesbian raised witness here who's been offically out of the religion for.. a couple weeks, tops after a long struggle of debating what i belived in and struggling with the fact that i was 'wrong and dirty' for realizing i liked women.
i've been watching a lot of videos lately from ex jws now that i don't feel like its just 'a trap' or whatever bullshit they tell us any info outside of the website is- and from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
i won't go on some long rant, but its nice to really feel seen
The funny thing was the advert at the start was for Cher and her Abba album....now that is gay. Lol
Love your Cloud Strife drawing!
They think being gay is wrong?? Wait till they learn about furries...
(Coming from someone who is both)
same
Have you watched Furies, by Down the rabbit hole? It's a deep dive into the culters historyand it's really good. th-cam.com/video/8aF2GxWi7Ag/w-d-xo.html
Also Small Beans Production is making a movie about Michael Swan's dad who a few years ago came out as a gay fury (small bean's -formally Cracked...kinda)
Hello, gay furry stranger♡
@@franxz4401 hi!
@@VibrantlyBrantly okay!
I enjoy seeing your drawings
I'm gay so yeah
You m... m m m monster ! Hell that way !😒
No but seriously fml what A World we live in
I am not attracted to men or women.
What's wrong with me?
James Richard Wiley youre asexual/aromantic which means you dont like the opposite sex or the same sex
It's not about gays, it's about when you try to use that to control my population, that's what I got a problem with, if you wanna fuck somebody in the ass it's your business, but how it affects society & how it affects the minds of the generation that comes behind us, I don't give a fuck what you do, but it affect my babies and my universal family, that's what I have a problem
hello gay, i’m dad
I'm really glad to hear your understanding of how homosexuals feel. I really appreciate that you don't think we can overcome it through effort or prayer and I hope to all that is good that someone trapped in a religion and is trying to deny their sexuality watches this.
I love how social Jesus was in the Bible but the religious right attempts to say their Jesus was some sort of capitalist. It's a silly book
Matthew Baran This is true. Jesus would not have approved of Capitalism.
@@0816M3RC How would Jesus not approve of capitalism over the other economic systems?
Religious right Jesus is some buff, gun toting, gay hating, ultra American white dude.
I love the Egyptian art you did. The art was amazing. Thanks for the video, these beliefs need to see the light of day and be mocked.
As long as it’s consensual and between adults, it doesn’t matter what you do in the bedroom
n o .... #TRUTH
@@Tonytrekdax nunya biz
I'm really sorry to hear that you have such an aversion to that word. I personally think it's a fantastic word and a healthy and fantastic action!
2:40 Wasn't the original meaning referring to pedophilia anyways? Like, doesn't the word's original context mean young boy?
This is the most interesting video i ever watched. Please 🙏 DONT delete this video on TH-cam. You know the verses by heart and You debunked the most religious questions on sexuality I been struggling to debunk myself. Im encouraged and gladly to share this video and recommended people to subscribe to you. Thank you for making this video 🙏
Hey! I used to be that jahovahs witness gay guy your talking about. But i left the organization around a year ago. I used to feel so sad, dirty, impure, disgusting, lonely And unworthy for being gay, that i even thought about killing myself. But thankfully i started noticing how wrong they were, And your videos And Jhon Cedar's had a lot to do with it. Now i feel happy and good with myself and now i know being gay doesnt make me a bad person or less important than anybody else. So, thank You so much for helping me geting a better life 😉
There's an ad for the Bible App For Kids on this video, I'm dying
My mom just told me to answer the door like 20 minutes or so ago and it was a young child and her mother and they were Jehovah's witnesses. I may or may not also be wearing a bunch of Pride stuff, a shirt, bracelets. The little girl looked kinda scared
I’m a lesbian and I grew up catholic, I started having doubts about my religion around 6th grade when I found out I was gay and I’ve been an atheist ever since. feeling guilty and resisting urges makes you feel horrible and depressed. just be who you are and don’t let any organization change you
For me I had something really bad happen to me by a couple girls. For me I kept telling myself that no matter what I would never be like those people. But deep down I wanted to be in a relationship with a girl. But I told myself if I gave in I was like those girls that hurt me. Then I found out that one of the girls actually thought it was okay with me, when itwas not, I was young, I didnt know what was happening. And when I found that out, and that the other girl was now a boy I let myself believe that one of them was not a girl and that the other meant no harm and I let myself feel the way i feel. But i still told myself i could never act on it because of articles like this, I am now, finally, letting myself want a relationship with a girl and not fighting it. And that is why I finally got the courage to leave.
This is a great video, and pretty much everything you said I agreed with. There was only one problem. “Make friends who won’t love you DESPITE your homosexuality, but BECAUSE of it.” I don’t think you should make friends with someone just because they’re gay. It would’ve been better if it said “Make friends who love you REGARDLESS of your sexuality.” Just a little nitpicky thing, but overall great video! Thank you!
I am a gay Jehovah 's Witnesses I’m kinda just waiting till I can move out so that I’ll be judged less.
Excellent! As a member of the 🏳️🌈 community and former lifelong catholic now turned agnostic, I thank you for your work!
7:44 i was almost triggered for giving cloud a little stick for a weapon. lol
Hearing your voice is so soothing after a long day ngl.
Also if you go back to the original Greek septuigent, it actually translates to something closer to "man shall not lay with boy"
Just Hannah ha take that pedophile priests!!!
I read an article like this when I was wondering if *I* was wrong for being gay. Really made me hate myself.
I go door to door and hand out gospel tracts that say :
HEY HEY! R U GAY?
JESUS LOVES YOU! 😍
JBIRD NELSON that’s amazing I aspire to be you
There is an exjw who's gay MYSELF....and thanks so much for your eye opening and heart felt share!!!!
Thank you for making these videos!! My parents and my dads family were Jehovah’s Witnesses back in the late 60’s and 70’s. When my mom and dad joined they told them they smoked and the elders said that’s ok as long as you don’t smoke at the Hall. Of course they didn’t. There was a change of elders and the new group was against smoking of any kind...but drinking was ok! Long story short, my mom and dad were disfellowshipped and it was traumatic for all involved. Luckily I was young and wasn’t baptized into the cult and yes it’s a fucking cult. What little taste I had of it was horrible and that experience sent me into a search for the truth. What I found was all the modern Abrahamic faiths are shames!! All are cults designed to dumb down and control people.
You have lead me to the truth, you are the pope to the atheist community, and I admire you with more than words can express. You teach logic and truth, not idiocy and lies. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Leviticus 18:12 King James Version (KJV)
Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.
Somehow it feels ok not being accepted by folks like that.😊
💙 *quality content* 💙
Just had them knock on my door yesterday, Two elderly ladies for a change. I live in north Wales, United Kingdom. I'm always polite but that just makes them talk more. It's hard to be polite, especially after watching your videos. They left me with their Watchtower magazine, which probably means they will be back.
"[Jesus tells us to] bring in and take care of the poor" Luke 14:12-14
So... uh.... is anyone gonna break the news to the GOP...?
I was getting Bible study with a JW a few years ago, because I was thinking of going back but wasn't sure, the lady told me that she ran into a gay while preaching, and he asked her if they hate gays. She told me that her response was that God doesn't Hate them, and then he said "but JWs do" she also said "no, we welcome everyone, even gays but you can't act on it." That was last time I had her come over to give me Bible study.
“We like gays only when they aren’t gay”
@@alexx3477 lol pretty much. I was just dumbfounded when she said that.
Oh, off topic, she brought a lady with her once and I mentioned I was working a lot of overtime in hopes of buying a house instead of renting, bitch said "why?! You're better off renting because it's not going to be here in the new world"
Well, I'm gay and an ex-JW, and it almost ended in suicide. My boyfriend grew up in a non-religious household and just doesn't get it, but I'm glad he never had to go through what I did. Thanks for the thoughtful video.
I wish I had a boyfriend.....
It takes time, man. Before I found him, I was single for six years. Stick with it, eventually your man will come along. It can take awhile. Never give up. I nearly did, and then I found the love of my life.
@@caelmcintosh143 who takes it? You or him ?
I really don't see how that's any of your business. The fact that you seem to think it's an either/or situation kind of shows your ignorance.
Oh come on people are dying to know, you cant say you're gay and not let the general pubic not know who is pitching and catching.
Thank you for the encouragement! I love your drawings! Great video!
I approve of this entire channel. 👍. Also to clarify, I have no relation to any religion. I am simply just god.
I remember reading that section in the book. I was a witness. I left church when I realized that what I am isn't wrong. I'm a openly Gay Women. I'm proud I'm fully living my life.
Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall.
One thing I realised was that: I liked a lot of girl characters when growing up, thinking they looked beautiful or cute. But before I actually found out I didn't just like boys I didn't seem to remember liking them as much as I actually did. There was this one moment where a friend of mine (my girlfriend now) kissed me on the cheek and obviously I remembered it that day but after that I had just forgotten. Until when we were together after I had found out, I realised I had gotten a crush on her. And when I found out I had a crush on her I remembered those feelings I felt when she kissed my cheek. I remembered thinking "Why do I feel so warm? Why am I blushing? I hope no-one can see that I'm blushing. Why did I find her pretty when I first saw her in a long time? Why?". And when I remembered all that again I understood that any feeling towards women were just completely "forgotten" by me since I wasn't supposed to feel that way.
Oops, really long. My point was: I think a lot of gay/bi kids in this "religion" end up repressing their feelings because those feelings are "not supposed to be there". I know I did.
Great video Telltale, thank you for helping to spread the truth about gay people not lies like religion does. I'm sure you are helping many gay JWs and many other gay people from different evil religions.
When Lott offered up his daughters to rapists I was done taking the Bible literally.
I’m married to an amazing woman, and I just left jws 2 Years ago. I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER AND IM LEARNING A LOT.
What still confuses me tho, is how some ex jws STILL judge me for being lesbian or throw subliminal messages at me so I can return to Religion.
I left so I can enjoy my free-will. Not to attach myself to another cult or religion.
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I really hope that eventually religious people will stop hating on homosexuals.
Stabs Goblin
God didn't make trash to throw away and burn.
Reproduction isnt a fear. Firstly the population Will grow to 10 billion people around 2100, secondly reproduction methods is going to get even more crazy in the future. You dont need to have intercourse today to make a child
@@cpt.flippybirds9015 I'm not seeing what your saying here
Stabs Goblin
I'm saying that God doesn't create humans to be destroyed later..
I don't believe in a sadistic god
@@cpt.flippybirds9015 And that relates to my original comment how exactly?
There is a video where a researcher shows how the anti gay verse in Leviticus actually started out condoning homosexuality. Hammerabi (not sure the spelling) channel has it and I believe John Cedars channel shows a link to it. It was researched by a Jewish scholar.
If it was a choice to be gay or bi or what ever u are, u think people would choose the lifestyle when then know the hatred and hurt people can put, risk of being murdered and abused? Seriously, I don't get how people can accept it as a natural thing in this world. There is a sexual gene proven and it is shown that sexual tendencies can happen in anyone on anyone, no matter what interests are there.
Honestly, I'd choose bi. Just saying, it 2 in 1.
But I still agree it's not a choice and people who think it is are delusional and arrogant.
Wow, this was really powerful.
"you shall not lie with a male as with a woman"
So... God wants me to be a lesbian?
Okay!
Hey telltale, have you ever read Ellen Hopkins? She's a realistic fiction writer. Her poem books are really good. If you haven't I'd suggest reading Burned. It's about a Mormon girl named Pattyn who has been sent away to live with her aunt for the summer. I don't want to say anymore about it, for fear of accidentally spoiling it, but you should really give it a read.
My grandma is friends with a JW woman who’s keeps trying to convert her. I went over one day and when she saw me, I swear she thought she saw Sin incarnate walk through the door. Rainbow hair, no bra, pajamas, wearing a panda Godzilla monster shooting rainbows and lighting over the city of Tokyo shirt..... Then as fast as the look of horror came, she smiled and handed me one of those Join The JW pamphlet BS things.... It was REALLY convincing... IF you’re someone with an IQ of 100 and under or desperate for acceptance. Thankfully I am neither and I know how manipulative and fluffed up those things always are. They were LITERALLY promising me cures for all of my problems. Saying things like “There’s always hope, you are not alone.” Like uuuuuuh, I think I might rather be alone than with company like that so uh... nooooo. If there’s a God, someone has definitely set a curve in the grading system already..... I think I’ll be okay.... if not, well I’m already suffering right now, what’s an eternity in Hell? I’ve gotten pretty good at dealing with absolute agony, so I probably won’t even notice I’m there........ plus all the hot gay girls will be there, so it won’t be all bad... lol
My best friend is currently struggling with her sexuality, and I'm the only person she's been able to confide in. Though we both grew up in Mormon households, there were some distinct differences between us. I never really believed, and started seriously questioning at a young age. I've always valued truth the most, so, even if I lost the support of my family, I would have chosen truth. But I was lucky enough to be born into a family with parents who accept homosexuality. Unfortunately for me, I'm asexual, which is harder for them to accept, but they still support me.
My friend is less lucky. She's extremely close with her family, who are VERY religious. They mean well, but sometimes I cringe when I'm around them. She, too, has always been very religious. Still, she's my best friend, and the first person I came out to about my atheism.
So she came out to me. About her homosexuality. And over the past not-even-quite-a-year, I've been forced to helplessly watch her try and reconcile her sexuality with her religion- and with her family. She's absolutely terrified of her family learning about it- she doesn't want distance between them, which may very well happen. At the same time, she goes to church and seminary and all that, and it HURTS HER. She came out of seminary the other day in tears. They'd been talking about families, which have to be a man, woman, and children. She told me the teacher's language was rather precise, and she felt... like she didn't belong, or was doing something wrong, or something. I've never had to deal with what she's going through, and I have no idea how to help her. I CAN"T help her. I can only be there for her. But seeing for myself how religion can absolutely tear people apart like this has really solidified to me that this IS a problem, currently, not just in the past. I got LUCKY with my parents, but some people aren't that lucky. I just hope that anyone else who's going through what my friend is can find someone to confide in. Hang in there; don't let anyone tell you that you are somehow wrong for how you feel.
Yet again, they have yet to prove why anyone should even listen to their god. You want to know the real punchline? There are people who have theorized that Paul himself may have been gay. :3
Paul, the guy credited with writing most of the letters in the New Testament. :3
D. R. Nyan-chan and one of the greatest Apostles
The tea has been spilled.
What do Jehovah's witnesses think about trans people?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm idk, they are probably very torelant and accepting
The same way they feel about any homosexual. If only there was a video on how JW feel about homosexuality. 🤔
_Spilled_Milk_ Pro-Champion-at-Life probably that they’re sad and confused and evil and spawns of Satan or something like that
I’m a bisexual man, I wasn’t in Jehovah’s Witness but I was an evangelical Christian when I was younger. It was tough, I hated myself and thought I was broken and I forced myself to be in denial of my same sex attractions. It was horrible and I am still healing from the damage purity culture has done to me.
So much for great artists and musicians, scientists, doctors, philosophers,....
This list goes on....
The world is boring without us! 🐤🐦
correlation is not causation. There is lots of music and art without gay people. It#s just a field of employment that is especially attractive to many with your sensibilities. That does not make you indispensable for its existence. We would just have to kick a few car designers or architects out of those fields early during their studies :-p those are mostly straight anyways
Also having mostly LGBT designers is not always a good thing... just take the clusterfuck of unwearable abominations that is the "high fashion" LOL or the downward spiral of ridiculousness going on in hairstyling.
Feno 3000 Religion itself is obsolete and should be tossed aside.
0816 M3RC
Yep, it's time to move on to Greater things....
Religion is rust of the soul.
Rotten to the core.....
Tossed into the garage can.
Just don't give up on true Divinity, I say.... 🐦
@@0816M3RC
I agree, but it seems a slight nonsequitur to the post you are answering to.
Did you actually interpret my cheeky "not SO important as you think" post as homophobic or religiously motivated? well my bad.. but it is neither. I just can't stand secular hubris either when it tries to hyperbole better than religious delusion ever possibly could ;-)
I think this was the exact article that turned me off JW when two classmates in high school tried to convert me.
What is "M" word? Moving? There are so many words that start with the letter "M".
It's actually two words: Mass Debation.
Mesothelioma
@@pubfries5562 You or a loved one may be entitled to financial compensation.
To me, it's Metallica \m/
They just really hate Minecraft, have for decades now.
In high school 3 of my classmates were Jehovahs Witnesses (all 3 female) and they always tried to convert me by giving me their books or their Watch Tower pamphlets. They also shamed me for reading horror and fantasy books or even for listening to Kerli, Metallica etc. They even showed me and my other classmates their video theories on Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings (or even about the planet Saturn and it's relation with Satan???). But the worst is about homosexuality I couldn't understand how they hated my guts (at the time I was a closed bisexual) and I once found myself crying in the bathroom bc of what they said when we were studying Oscar Wild. It hurt me so bad. This is also why I don't talk to them anymore, bc I know they'll try to convert me again.