Virgin birth stories started long before Jesus because Satan was there in Genesis 3:15 when he heard God say to him, “the seed of the woman will crush your head“! Satan’s trying to stop that from happening
@@jjphank Dude, seriously? Even the resurrection narratives are all over the place. Did Mary M. come alone? Who or what did she see? When did it happen? You'd think the Bible-compilers who attempted to standardize the orthodoxy could at least get the most critical and foundational event right.
@@flintfrommother3gaming The problem to me is that I could not stop laughing,.Humour seems to me an appropriate response to the idea of the religious Hells.
Hell only follows one religion, and if all religion simultaneously exists, it wouldn't be possible. So the only reasonable assumption is that either one's real and all is fake.. Or none is real. Religious folks.. Atleast most of them.. Would be fine either way.. Atheists however..
@@DeadAccount53885 As I said, if none is real it still won't affect us. If one is real however, true justice will be delivered to believers and non-believers alike. But if you mean in a metaphysical or a philosophical way, you'd be the last one people should listen to. Atheism is the lack of belief of god or some kind of power, so you have no footing to debate such thing and should only rely on science... but religious people.. need science.. Matter of fact, they created it. Science's foothold is religious people. The only atheist that had a large place in science was Charles Darwin, but he still considered himself as a "theist". Only modern day scientists are good scientists with a lack of belief but even then their philosophy on god is trash
@@r7ahtesham885 I have footing. I didnt want to say this because i found it unnecessary to offend anyone, but, every religion is just a massive lie. I DO have footing. Its pure logic. Religion is basically this: There might be a god, and people say there is, but there is no way to disprove it (as it doesnt exist) but there is also no way to prove it (becuase it still doesnt exist). So people just keep saying stuff like that they believe there is one and there is no way to disprove it. Most religions absolutely hated science as it went against their beliefs (lies), such as street lighting would make god angry because we would break the day-night cycle, or when they wanted to kill some guy (i forgot his name) for saying that the earth isnt in the center of the solar system and that it spins and moves. I should be the first one people should listen to, because EVERY religion is obsolete and has ZERO place in a modern society. There are also massive logic holes, such as why do churches need money? Couldnt god just materialize some for them? Or why arent divine interventions happening? Because no one would believe they happened anymore. The bible was written when people were stupid, so everyone believed that an omnipotent beinig exists, and it got deep rooted in society. The same thing happened to every other religion. Some story that would be plausible at the time, but obviously not true by today's standards. Religions are full of logic holes and only people who dont think about them are religious.There, you wanted this, now you got it. I offended like half of the people watching this video to prove my point. God doesnt exist, and no amount of getting offended over will change that. Your entire arguement is "some book says a thing".
@@DeadAccount53885 I'm gonna be short because it's bed time, but all I'm gonna say is that if you want to judge religion as a concept that's fine, but every religion has huge amount of differences, some of them don't even believe in the concept of God. Which is why jumping into the conclusion of "there is no god" itself is illogical, not just the differences but also how not believing in God is illogical too. I'll tell you later but the one I kind of have an issue about is "Your entire argument is this book said so" Which is stupid because that's literally every ideology or science ever. How did rockets go into space "this article said it did and how it did it". See how twisted this kind of argument is? Idk about others, but if you want to tackle religion, you have to know why. Why is Hinduism for example stupid? You can't tell unless you go deep into it, you probably did about... I suppose Christianity.. There are problems in the bible sure but the bible also got so many things right, my religion tells me that it's because the Bible was indeed given to them by god but it got corrupted.. BTW, you said that "I probably offended half the people reading this" maybe but I wasn't.. I actually appreciate your honesty, because the problem with people is that they lack honesty and lets their emotions do the thinking.. My religion tells me that there are signs given to everyone that he indeed exists, and that he gave us the mind, the eyes and the ears to peice it together yet some don't.. Because "it's not the eyes that are blind but the heart". My religion literally depends on logic, of course it's been under debate because we claim that there's no contradictions nor loophole, so I engaged with some of them and it's just verses taken out of context and genuine lies. I also appreciate your willingness of not offending people, but that's not the right attitude, you should stick to your truth while being respectful. I'll probably respond with some more after like.. 12 hours but till then I am looking forward to your response, take care 👍
It’s a shorter list that way 💀 a lost one that has a comment agreement whereas the opposite is a longer list that has not been peer reviewed enough lol
@@PrincesaLuneztbf a list of things with "and" in between each of them can be directly opposed by a list of the opposite actions with "or" in between. Example: - Don‘t kill AND - Don‘t steal AND - Be pious Is opposed by - Kill OR - Steal OR - Don‘t be pious. Same length.
Yet, for some reason, all of these scholars can't provide proof that does a better job as real proof than other religions! And if everyone is wrong? No one is.
One of my close friends recently went to Hell, stayed there for few days and returned. He said it was a beautiful experience, and I too hope to visit Norway someday.
Or Hella in Iceland. Or the Hellmouth (Helmond) in Netherlands.... Loads of hell's on earth... Nice to have spa-days. With the devil cast down on earth that should not be that crazy - this is his domain after all.
Once I make it there I volunteer to be a part of the welcoming committee. There’s a person in particular that I hope to have a welcoming party for if I make it there before him
@@smugscribbles6667 "You know Perry The Platypus, I didn't actually think my Frenchtoastinator was capable of opening a portal to hell and erasing all traces of sin."
Has no-one yet explained to you *why* not... *Ever* to use those asinine and infantile symbols used*on'y* by bimbecile children for no sane adult would ever use anything so asinine and infantile for of being taken for an imbecile child, as it is hard to avoid inferring that you are? By using them you are telling all the wotld that you are an imbecile child, but matter for you, matter for you; I could not help inferring that
Growing up with Buddhism hell stories, you have no idea how terrifying it was. As a kid, every time I did sth I was not supposed to, I was scared the ground would crack open and swallow me up. It didn't help that I would go out of my ways to read up various 'true stories' out of morbid fascination. Probably how my horror addiction started.
That came as a surprise to me. I used to think the constant threat of eternal damnation (which a trillion-year long punishment essentially is) was something specific to Abrahamic faiths and did not exist in Eastern religions.
@@samg.5165 It's not an eternal damnation; you will be free once you've paid for your bad deeds. Still it's scary for children to hear "don't do that, you'll go to hell" when just explaining bad actions may lead to bad consequences would do the trick. It's not as bad as what I have heard from a lot of people growing up with Abrahamic religions. Although eastern religions have somewhat better rep, I believe the concept of using fear to control people exist in every religions. I know a lot of Buddhists doing good things - charities, donations - because they want the rewards of good deeds, good karma ( which will cancel out bad karma that may get them to hell then be reborn as lesser beings ) , not because they genuinely are good people.
@@mahogara Billions, trillions and quadrillions of years are essentially the same as eternity, at least the way I see it. Most people break from isolation alone (no physical torture needed) in a matter of days or weeks. When life in the shortest Nakara lasts for millions of years at the very least, being reborn as a worm or a plant seems rather tame in comparison. Then again, perhaps this aspect of Buddhism isn't emphasized as much as hell is in Christianity and Islam. But like you say, reward and punishment is a concept universal to all religions.
Spirituality is creating your own reality by learning from your stepping stones and raising your vibration to be your best self and achieve your mission goals in this lifetime.
actually this makes alot sense to me... i kind of live like that whithout even being aware of the tradition. it just feels natural to me... i mean most religions are more about power and control then anything else ... they lost the essence ... i think those 4 core principles are the essence and also the reason why its just healthy to choose to live by thees "values". ….. being spiritual not religeous... doing the right thing for the greater good not just for personal gain... no need to live on your knees as long you dont put those close to you down. dont be so greedy. there would be enough for all of us... but yo i guess every herd got its black sheep but the european mind is more down whith the devil, the EGO ... false light blindet by there beauty lol . ...who are the real Savages? not everything that shines is gold... the devil is a liar. no matter which shade of brown or whatever... positiv giving or Negative taking... balance just some thoughts and thnx for providing these infos. PEACE out & greetings from Germany
Yes, Dhitik_scott. She has been my spiritual therapist for a while now. She’s amazing and natural. She has really been helpful guiding me in unlocking my full potentials spirituality is a right meant for everyone to enjoy, I’ve experienced so much spiritual awakening and healing period over the years now just for her sake.
As a child I strongly wished to die tragically so I could go straight to heaven and it seems like many others thought the same thing. Is really hard to avoid hell as an adult lmao
I had the concept of becoming a “free bird” in heaven if you die as a kid shoved in my face so much, I desired it too because I thought “maybe I'll get to die before my doubts solidify into something scary” lmao (muslim btw)
same I remember wanting the rapture to happen or to die when I was little because I wanted to go to heaven and I was scared that when Im older I would go to hell because I wasnt pure anymore.
@@aaronbredon2948 The category isn't for how many hells one has visited, but how quickly one can get to any given hell. Set-seed is really well-optimized, and players live off of guides like this.
To be honest my fear isn’t Hell or Heaven, my fear is of Eternity, whether it’s horrific or tremendous. To experience anything forever, something that will never end, to truly try and grasp that concept…you can’t. I can’t. That is probably my one true fear
oh god this was my exact childhood fear which lead me to religious trauma. i wanted to go to hell bc the idea of eternal heaven was too scary for me to the point where i wanted to avoid any religious discussions as a kid. nice to see someone with an alike mind.
From what I can tell, your soul isn't just you but immortal; it's an incomprehensibly vast entity of which your consciousness is but a fraction of, and that a lot of what you think is you is just the organic, temporary part of your mind that is fallable and mortal, and that is broken away from when you die. The closest I can reconcile a concept like purgatory or hell, is that it's a state of being that helps souls that are clinging to their mortality to reconcile with the end of their mortal existence - a psychologically painful process - and move on as something greater. The fact that you find the concept of eternity as terrorizing is a sign of wisdom, because you can tell that the human consciousness as it is isn't supposed to be immortal.
**Ancient Greek Tartarus:** cannibalism, familicide, assaulting/kidnapping/impersonating a god, robbing temples, murder and tyranny (some crimes like manslaughter could be mitigated if the victims forgave them after a trial period). I think you’re good. **Ancient Egyptian damnation** (getting your heart/soul eaten): 42 judges would analyze your sins-like bearing false witness-then consider the context and advise Anubis. Even murder could be excused if you were, say, preventing greater loss of life. I have no context for your actions as weighed against the feather of truth, so 🤷♀️
yeah either god is allowing them to do this (in which case he is not benevolent) or he is unable to stop them from doing this (in which case he is not all powerful) the Christian, Judaic, and Islamic God are supposed to be omnibenevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent (all good, all knowing, and all powerful) so this is a contradiction.
@@electricfishfan Yeah, the reason is that he gave us the free will to be evil and we would have gone to heaven, we’re just not at the front of the list
i think that the idea is that demons love torturing people so they don't work for God per say, they just get the opportunity to do what they already loved doing
Fun fact Hell is often described as being filled with brimstone(sulfur) and sulfur burns with a blue flame, so realistically Hell would have blue flames rather than the red it’s usually depicted with.
The hindu version seems very off though. Hinduism doesn't really have a hell or heaven. The idea is to escape the cycle of rebirth because this life is already hell, so that your soul can join the big soul. That being said, it's a religion which does not have one single text as a source and there are many narratives based on who you ask. But broadly speaking, heaven and hell aren't really a thing in religion, it's a western religion thing.
And srimad bhavatam too you can see briefly mentioning hell and also mentioned every action in this life sin. Heaven has a different level if you want happiness without you going back to sansara.
Yeah, it would be interesting to do a full exploration of Hinduism and hell - because my understanding is that there are many lokas (realms/planets), some of which are existing in parallel with our own. Your own mind can take you to hell, based on how you think/feel/intend. And I've also heard of Garuda Purana as someone else mentioned; something about how Garuda helps people move from the intermediary realm to their next birth. My personal belief is that your karma determines your next life, and that life can be heaven or hell. Your way to escape all of this is to do spiritual practices and good deeds. The truth is Hinduism is an amalgamation of different schools of thought. Coz we were called specific things (Shaivites, Vaishnavites, etc.) but the Brits came in and said, cool, they all seem like they could fall into the bracket of "Hindu." Having said that, there is a core principle that we are all one - Brahman. We are, essentially, god. But our ego and the maya deludes us into doing stupid shit. If we are all ONE, the best thing you can do is to be kind and loving to everyone. (Which is what all religions say) If you want a bad rebirth, be a complete asshole and morally depraved. I also think some of these writings have to be contextualized, coz during those days being born as a woman didn't give you much agency. So, the commentators could have inferred that being born a woman THEN (frankly, even now to some extent) meant more hardships and challenges than the average man. BUT I don't think karma works in this weird simplistic unilateral way. There's complexity: you can be born a woman and yet, be born into privilege and your own individualized life experience is highly positive. The inference is NOT that women are lesser, the inference is that in that time frame, they may have faced more hardship. If you're the cause of the hardship, you're still going to rack up negative karma. Hinduism also has a concept called "dharma" - and it is purposely left ambiguous because what is right or wrong is context dependent. Killing an animal for pleasure is very different from killing an animal in self defense. You are supposed to exercise judgment and assess how best to not harm other beings/earth. So going vegan is a good thing. Overall, please get an actual Hindu scholar. Thanks.
@nuancedrenditions Oh,they are different branches of Hinduism with different beliefs. Samkhya for example believe there are two fundamental substances: Purusha (Conciousness) and Prakriti (matter,thoughts,feelings,etc.). Both are eternal so it is atheist school of thought.
Hi guys, this is the perspective of someone who does actively believe in Sanatan Dharma which has been grossly overgeneralised as hindu. Hindu comes from Sindhu from the tribe of people who lived near the Indus valley and hence is not an accurate representation at all of the faith. In fact it is a philosophy that encourages critical thinking while also focusing on the self. As far as hell is concerned, a point that hasn't been made clear up till this point is hell in sanatan dharma is never eternal. It is proportionate to the sin you perform and the determinants of whether you have done sin is relative to your dharma as stated above. Dharma is subjective upon each individual as we have different responsibilities but in general it sums up to righteousness. Even an atheist can potentially have a better chance at escaping hell than a theist so long as their moral compass and responsibilities are achieved. As for the Garud Purana that I see you have been discussing, it's is VERY IMPORTANT to recognise that the purans aren't supposed to be taken literally like a Bible or Quran is. Our faith is based in philosophy and hence by extension a lot of the passages you'll see are consistent in that they are extended metaphors. If you want a more direct answer to your questions then the Gita is the closest but I'd be careful to look at one puran and make a statement that 'hindus' believe in X or Y. But I'd be happy to reply to any questions so just tag me in the reply below and hopefully YT sends me the notification.
Timestamps! 0:00 - Intro 0:39 - Christian Hell (w/ Dr. Ehrman) 11:30 - Is Drew going to hell in Christianity? 12:03 - Hindu/Buddhist Hell (w/ Dr. Mikles) 25:38 - Is Drew going to hell in Hinduism/Buddism? 27:16 - Islamic Hell (w/ Let's Talk Religion) 39:10 - Is Drew going to hell in Islam? 39:44 - Jewish Hell (w/ Dr. Sledge) 48:40 - Is Drew going to hell in Judaism?
When I was five, my parents enrolled me into Cat Steven's funded Islamic School in London and one memory that sticks with me is the Islamic studies teacher teaching us about hell and how if we weren't 'good Muslims' and didn't do as we were told that we would go to hell. One punishment that was burned into my brain was the one where the angels would hold you down onto a boulder and would use a rock to smack your head into pieces. They would then put your head back together only to do it over and over again. I was in shock and watched all the other little five year old scream and cry. Indoctrination at its finest.
The 72 virgins are duo-decans, making the total to be 360 with 5 days thrown into the mix. These same 72 were helpers of Seth who sealed Osiris/Noah in his arc.
I heard the same thing except instead of being tied down and smacked by a rock, I was told that everything will be dark and really really really hot. The heat will burn you to a crisp, then you will be formed again and the process will repeat for eternity. All very graphic images for children to think about. Especially me since I had a really creative and overactive imagination. So yeah, when you hear that coming from the mouths of the adults that are supposed to keep you safe, let's just say baby me was scarred, cried, became nauseous, and as young as I was, only thought those dark thoughts for MONTHS. Literally MONTHS. That was something children should NOT need to hear. Even if it's in religion. you're definitely right. If religious people were to tell their children about hell, they should do it when their minds have matured so that this stuff doesn't numb a child's brains.
Being raised Catholic giving up on the notion of eternal torment in hell was the hardest thing I had to come to terms with. I give Jews a lot of credit for not having a notion of hell as a way to maintain control. This was a fun trek through the various notions of hell, a great Christmas present.
also, one thing that I wanted to comment as a person raised Catholic is that knowing catholicism and rejecting it as a religion is a quickest way to hell (it's a dogma); so according to Catholicism if you are atheist, Baptist or Jewish that never knew catholicism, you may go to heaven; if you are catholic and covert out of it to judaism or go atheist (not sure about other types of christianity, but I think it may apply as well), then BURN IN HELL; If I am honest though, I was never taught about this eternal torment thing as a catholic; I was told that we don't know - hell may be torture, but it also may be eternity in absence of god (I am born and raised in Poland if that makes any difference); I feel now that I have been given some progressive version of christianity, wthout scaremongering; for me leaving religion was difficult, because I felt like I was part of something bigger before and then I wasn't and it was difficult to reconcile; but I see how many protestants represent catholicism and it's very different from the church I know; it sometimes puts me in uncomfortable position of wanting to defend something I don't believe in;
I was raised as Catholic, and decided to exit the religion right before Confirmation (I went to the Confirmation school). but I remember one of Catholic priests in my local church told me that hell was separation from god.
@@jogighopa I also have this need to defend what I don't believe. Mostly because if you're going to mock at least mock it correctly. The weirdest mockery is the forbiddance of eating pork, shellfish, and mixed cloths. Cause they're unintentionally mocking Jewish people more since they actually practice that section of the bible. I get their point is pointing out hypocrisy and inconsistent rule applications in Christianity but come on. You could have mentioned circumcision not being required for the gentile converts and I'd feel less awkward.
They say that if you managed to go to Hell in every religion, you unlock the “True Hell”, an amalgamation of all religious depictions of hell, and the King of that True Hell gives up his crown to you as dictated by the crown-bearing passage of True Hell. Now you have to hope nobody else ever manages to go to Hell in every religion, or you’ll also have to pass the crown to them and face your punishment.
I like the idea that not knowing about Islam or Judaism gives you a degree of protection from their hells. Partially because it seems more considerate, but also because it reminds me of Terry Pratchett's idea that people only went to hell if they believed they deserved it, 'which is why it is important to shoot missionaries on sight'.
That's one of the lines that I remember, too! Mostly when I'm reading the last third of 'Jane Eyre' . You know, the bit with her cousin St. John. I find it interesting that one of Sir Terry's 'accomplices', Neil Gaiman, has this much more frightening version of hell were we are caught up in our own regrets, and forced to repeat them over and over again. No devils and demons and angels of the devil, just we ourselves. I find it much more disquieting than the whole "eternal lake of fire" thing.
I was never baptized into the Christian church despite a family history of catholicism and I was big mad when Benedict abolished limbo - I was sure I would get to go to the Medium Place if the Catholics were right since I never got baptized and technically never had a chance to be an apostate, I'm just an old fashioned heathen.
I am Hindu and in my language from where I'm from I've rarely ever heard people say "go to hell" but rather " you'll face the consequences of your karma (deeds) (karma bhogana)" I think most Hindus in general aren't really concerned with heaven and hell but rather next life lol We all know no one ain't getting moksha XD
Yeah... It's like we have accepted that our journey is going to be a loooooong one So we can only try to make it better by doing good karma ☺️ Good luck trying for moksh is one life , whichever it may be The chances of moksh are scary low 😅
"Depending on who you ask" is entirely accurate. Back in the old days of Catholic school I was told that not believing and not being baptised would not send you to hell, because even if you sinned, it was because you didn't know better, and would be sent to limbo. If you believed and were baptised, dying with mild sins would send you to purgatory, kinda like a hell lite, and where you could purge your soul and get in heaven eventually. If you died with mortal sins, you went to hell, unless you repented on your death bed and were administered the last rites.
@@somedude9383 The sad thing is, it's not hard in theory. But it requires both groups to have a basic understanding of what's considered disrespectful. Like, for example, to have a discussion (not a debate, a discussion) between two religions both have to accept that they can not and should not try to talk the other into their religion, unless it's the whole topic they also shouldn't unprompted tell the other they'd go to hell in their religion. (this can also be applied to atheist in that they shouldn't be talking people out of their religion during a discussion like this or telling them thier so heaven and they've just wasted their life) In theory that is the easiest thing to understand ever. It's basic respect. However lots of people believe they've failed their religion if they don't try to convince the other person, so they then offend the other person and start an argument. I wish everyone could just not do that. It'd be so much easier.
@@babycakelingscouldn't have said it better myself. Every time I scroll down a thread of religious discourse it instantly divulges into mockery. I can't help but feel a considerable amount of conversion attempts are rooted in hostility and insincerity. I imagine it goes for all religions instead of it being restricted to one but I remember when asking and inquiring Christians about their beliefs as I was interested (I was an athiest at the time and was interested in monotheism), a majority of the responses would include ignoring, answering their own questions or blatantly insulting. Never would I have been given a satisfactory answer. At best I could hope for was a "have faith". About a year later I converted to another religion and since when a conversation would arise where I would have my made my religion known only then had people try to deter me from it and engage in conversation. This isn't to target Christians specifically despite my disproportionately categorising experience but to serve my experience as a reminder on how not to conduct ourselves. We represent our beliefs. Lets represent them sincerely.
@@DamienLance to be honest it’s not that it’s a Christian issue, it’s a privilege issue. Christians are just often very privileged. People who come from a country or culture where they are minority I’ve found are generally way better at polite debating and are willing to talk over religion without forcing it on you. Which is a big part of why I think Jews are so polite (ignoring how their religion is literally structured to not be invasive of other people that is, obviously there’s many reasons their so great in that regard, but I do think being a minority is part of that). People who are used to being the majority on the other hand are forceful about it and don’t consider themselves rude when they disrespect others because that’s normal to them. Muslim people from countries where that’s the norm are often just as bad as Christians, we just don’t run into them as often because we (making an assumption about you here, apologies) are English speakers. But also Christians are particularly bad because they have a culture centered around how their the victim even in countries where they are the majority while also they view themselves as better then everyone else. They discourage questioning and ultimately try to kick out anyone who tries to do things differently. No individual Christian should ultimately be blamed for that of course, there are so many lovely Christians I’ve met too. But the fact that culture is there is an issue in itself. I think it’s just about finding a way to change that culture without devaluing the actual religious beliefs, that’s just hard to do when the people themselves don’t want any change.
To have a respectful conversation about religion, there is one necessary thing: Make everyone understand that God is not real, and that the concept of heaven or hell is laughable.
These Hells all have one thing in common: the punishments do not fit the crimes. It's just people trying to imagine the worst punishment they can think of and then deciding that is what hell is like. Hell is a man-made idea; it's not real.
Tartours in greak mythology does there ironic punishments. Guy who tied escaping death forced to push a rock up a hill that roles down and push it back up because you can't escape death just delay it.
This is actually something that happens according to some Buddhist traditions! According to the Nyingma Tibetan Buddhist tradition, Guru Padmasambhava went to the land of the rakshasas (or demon cannibals) at the time of his death in order to convert them to Buddhism and turn their realm into a pure abode. He now resides in that realm called "The Copper Colored Mountain."
"It depends on who you ask," and what year it is, like I always say. That is what we call a catch-all answer. If the "truth" "depends on who you ask," then nobody knows the truth.
The amount of time that we spend in Hell will depend upon which calendar you use. A common calendar has us spending seven months in Heaven and five months in Hell. The seven months of Heaven begins at the spring equinox and the five months of Hell brings us back to the spring equinox. Heaven and Hell is the 12 months of the year. A good description of Hell is found in Revelation 9. The leader of Hell (winter) is the Scorpio constellation which is associated with the scorpion/locust/fly. Scorpio is also the sign of the genitals and “oil.” Dung/feces is also associated with winter as this is the period when dung piles were constructed. The dung would be spread on the fields prior to the planting season. The five months of "Hell" is the period that Osiris spent sailing the celestial seas in his casket. These five months is also the 150 days the waters prevail in the Noah myth. This same five months is the five sons of Shem (Greek Hades/Latin Pluto/Hindu Magog).
Re: judaism, at least from the perspective of an insider, hell and the afterlife in general is very rarely talked about. If you ask a well-informed scholar he’ll of course know of the more obscure mysticism, but having gone to hebrew school for many years and practiced my whole life, it was never talked about once. We just don’t focus on the afterlife much. I only learned the term Gehanna from this video, as a matter of fact. There is some obscure lore and mysticism about it but it’s just not a focus the way it is in christianity (and other religions afaik?). So by asking about it directly you might believe it’s a bigger deal than it really is to most of us. Either way love the channel and great work! edit: Also as a non-orthodox jew who occasionally eats cheeseburgers I’m ready for my stint in Gehanna and probably an eternity in every other religion’s hell :P
I first learnt, as a university student, about all the different options for afterlife when someone asked me about it. They were Christian, trying to somehow get me to convert. So I did some research, and found that there are so many different ideas, but not many people care except as a fun debate amongst academically minded people. I remember first hearing about Christian hell and really wondering why it was so bad to have just been human during your life. I don't believe in any afterlife, but I do like to think that people who practiced lovingkindness during life, will get a quick dip in gehenah, and be out in time for shabbat.
Queer term "after"_life" what given that only one thing comes " *after*" life, namely the complete, absolut final and permanent cessation of *all* experiencing(for want of an experiencing apparatus) call *that* what you will.
"After or post, life comes death which carries with it as an idea that all life or experiencing has stopped-generally for want of an experiencing apparatues, thus *After* experiencing comes not experiencing anything-it being axiomatic that it is impossible to experience not experiencing anything. After experiencing comes not-experiencing anything, thus the "Afterlife quite appart from being an oxymoron is simple gibberish. The fact of the matter is that for obvious reasons you creatures simply cannot imagine not experiencing anything thus not experiencing anything is that species of impossibility that is conceptual impossibility, but you creatures have had you associative/dreaming apparatuses filled with other people's fantasies that can *only* be fantasies because *Either* death and dead * mean *No_After* *Or* they mean nothing. Afterlife is a gibberish term like the over-under, or up-down
that moment when you activly try to commit every sin in every religion so all the gods start fighting over you to determin who has the right to trow you into their version of hell preventing you from actually being sentenced.
In Hinduism and Buddhism, a person himself sways in hell due to his bad deeds. Anyway main goal of both of them is to attain Nirvana, heaven hell don't matter.
Then you end up in a literal void of nothing like Jack'O Lantern in the original story until they decide a custom hell for you agreed by all the goods.
@@Nowe971 ok that sound bad but there are not much worse places then eternal hell at some point of intensity all pain is basically the same and all versions of hell almost always are forever so i imagine i would go insane and get numb to the pain eventually no matter the version even if custom. there are actually experiments of people being in perfectly white or black rooms with no stimulation like a void and most people cant handle more than 3 days. so probably insanity and then just being unconsiously tortured would be the outcome. there are defenitly ways those gods could force me to stay sane but that probably involves lowering the pain or erasing some part of the pain from my memory to keep me sane but that would defeat the purpose of the torture. there is pobably no way of over-/under-stimulating a human mind/neural network without breaking it pretty fast and any major alteration to my consiousness would probably mean it would not be me anymore. soooo... the concept of hell in general is flawed since it would pretty much break anyone before the infinte torure is done.
There’s something really healing about the way this video is framed, like my whole life there have been people trying to use fear of hell to control my mind and body; just taking the fear out of the conversation is really nice. Rigorous, unserious discussions are kinda healing.
❤❤ You might find the Jewish theological tradition/style particularly healing and fun! There are soooOooo many conversations about nonsense in the Talmud solely for the sake of reaching further understanding through discussion Reaching understanding through shameless discussion is, broadly speaking, the Jewish way. That’s why we’re so famous for arguing and disagreeing with each other.
@@tobpthat’s literally the truth. hell is death and why tf would you not want ppl to tell you that? bc it hurts ur feelings lmao? it’s not being sugarcoated and ur complaining abt that…
I'd love if you did a follow up on this with some of the more minor religions! I love hearing Ocean Keltoi and others in Neopagan circles discussing what we know about the old faiths' afterlives and how the perception's been warped by pervasive christianity.. and we can rack up even more hell-adjacent afterlives to go to!
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic It could also be cool to hear the Zoroastrian concept of afterlife and hell, given that it is the primary inspiration for a lot of post exile ideas, and thus Christian and Islamic thoughts on the subject (or so I've been told)
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic hey Drew you should do a video on animism, the foundation of religion. Maybe you can have religion for breakfast on to discuss it
"depends on who you ask" I think is the best, and most overlooked, answer to just about any religious question. People tend to make sweeping generalizations of "oh Christians believe this, Muslims believe this, Buddhists believe this" but religion is a lot more complicated than that. Within religions you can have anywhere from dozens to thousands of sects, all with varying beliefs on different issues. But even then, that also misrepresents. The official standpoint of, say for example, the Roman Catholic church, does not necessarily apply to all people who identify as Roman-Catholics, everyone has their own unique views. Now obviously, you can only cover so much in a limited amount of time, which is why people devote their lives to studying religious topics, but you do have to be careful not to generalize to the point where you are lumping hundreds of millions or even billions of people into the same category. That only leads to further division and misunderstanding.
One slight correction, really not very important, is that when you speak about not worshipping the Muslim God only the Christian God, they are both the same. The same God who is worshipped by all Abrahamic religions. Now in terms of the point, it doesn't make a difference as that would still be considered turning away from God, which as was discussed is one of the ways you can go to hell according to many Muslims.
I have a bit of a problem with people saying "Buddhists believe this" as it would be similar to saying "Abrahamists believe this" without specifying which branch you're talking about, is it christian, muslim or judaism? Who knows? The lady did mention towards the end that she mostly studied tibetan and chinese buddhism however.
So true. I don't know nearly as much about other religions, but the word "Christianity" encompasses almost any belief you can think of. Perhaps not so surprising when the Bible is so full of ambiguities and contradictions. Even the idea common among non-believers that "Jesus was a good man who preached peace and love" is debatable.
@@captaincatchy I would assume that ambiguity is common among many religions, partly as a result of them spreading. Most religions that spread far beyond their origin are able to do so by adapting to the people they are trying to convert. As for the Christian bible, an important thing to remember is that it wasn’t all written by the same person or even at the same time, as many other religious texts are from my understanding. A lot of it comes from oral tradition that was passed down for generations and generations before ever being written down, and as such not all the details remain constant. Translation also becomes a problem with every religious text, as multiple layers of translation can warp meanings.
I would love to see a tutorial for speedrunning every hell. In other words, what's the most efficient combination of things I can do to maximize the number of hells I enter? Maybe adultery only gets me in to 50% of hells but murder is 80% and murder + a hamburger is 92%. By finding the most efficient combination, I bet we could get an all access VIP hell tour pass in a matter of seconds with just a few simple actions and statements!
Being a Buddhist from India, i dont think i was ever told abt heaven or hell or whether it even matters. No such thing.. i was pretty much told karma matters, both in thoughts and action. The only other thing i was taught was that it is important to practice Sadhana.. to meditate.. by that I don't mean introspection or self analysis etc.. what i mean is to have a breath practice to get the body and breath in sync.. to try for a meditative state. The goal eventual is to attain Nirvana.. heaven, hell, actions thoughts are all distractions on the path🙏🤷 happy new yr folks!
Yeah this is what I learned in Zen and Pure Land. Obviously pure land has an emphasis on making it to the pure land if you don't attain Nirvana. But the godly realms and the hell realms are both bad for trying to attain Nirvana, and one shouldn't want to go to either.
Dr Sledge's description of the "roaming ghosts" who are rejected by both heaven and hell brings to my mind the origin of Halloween's Jack O'Lantern: 'People have been making jack-o’-lanterns at Halloween for centuries. The practice originated from an Irish myth about a man nicknamed “Stingy Jack.” According to the story, Stingy Jack invited the Devil to have a drink with him. True to his name, Stingy Jack didn’t want to pay for his drink, so he convinced the Devil to turn himself into a coin that Jack could use to buy their drinks. Once the Devil did so, Jack decided to keep the money and put it into his pocket next to a silver cross, which prevented the Devil from changing back into his original form. 'Jack eventually freed the Devil, under the condition that he would not bother Jack for one year and that, should Jack die, he would not claim his soul. The next year, Jack again tricked the Devil into climbing into a tree to pick a piece of fruit. While he was up in the tree, Jack carved a sign of the cross into the tree’s bark so that the Devil could not come down until the Devil promised Jack not to bother him for ten more years. 'Soon after, Jack died. As the legend goes, God would not allow such an unsavory figure into heaven. The Devil, upset by the trick Jack had played on him and keeping his word not to claim his soul, would not allow Jack into hell. He sent Jack off into the dark night with only a burning coal to light his way. Jack put the coal into a carved-out turnip and has been roaming the Earth with ever since. The Irish began to refer to this ghostly figure as “Jack of the Lantern,” and then, simply “Jack O’Lantern.” 'In Ireland and Scotland, people began to make their own versions of Jack’s lanterns by carving scary faces into turnips or potatoes and placing them into windows or near doors to frighten away Stingy Jack and other wandering evil spirits. In England, large beets are used. Immigrants from these countries brought the jack-o’-lantern tradition with them when they came to the United States. They soon found that pumpkins, a fruit native to America, make perfect jack-o’-lanterns.' -- www.history.com/news/history-of-the-jack-o-lantern-irish-origins
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic If she's up to it, definitely get her back. It was such a joy to watch her, and I assume it's even more to talk to her directly.
-Matter didn’t create anti matter -Anti matter didn’t create matter (Both of them were present at the time of big bang) -Both of them didn’t create themselves. -Both of them came from an unimaginable source, that unimaginable source created matter and antimatter (everything) thats why it is known as “the creator” of everything. ------;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;------ - that unimaginable source/creator has created sin and virtue which are opposite to each other, - “logic” confirmed that every action has its own reaction, the reaction of sin is different than the reaction of virtue, - the creator has created prophets to let us know about each and every detail of sin and virtue, also about their reactions, Thank you :)
I was pretty much under the impression that going to hell in any religion that HAS a hell to go to, is simply a matter of not believing in their religion. There are other ways as well, but that would be the simplest way I would think.
It actually depends on the religion. They sorta skim over this a bit in the video (unfortunately), but typically in both Hinduism and Buddhism, for example, simply not believing will not by itself result in you going to hell. They believe that everybody's fate after death is determined solely by their actions in life (regardless of why they did them), so if you do things to accumulate enough bad karma, you will end up in hell, but if you live your life in a good way in which you do not do those things, even if you have never even heard of that religion, or actively disbelieve it, you still won't go to hell, because your _actions_ didn't actually warrant it.
I mean, Tartarus is often seen as the Greek Hell, and it isn't some place you go just for not believing. If you were an evil person in life you are sent to Tartarus. According to Plato, if you are so innately evil that you are "incurable" then you are permanently sent to Tartarus, otherwise, if you have done evil but are redeemable, you can get out once a year when you finally show true remorse and guilt. If you believe there is not such a thing as an irredeemable evil person, then no person has been sent to Tartarus permanently.
@@meenapatel1648 Buddhist Hell is like a prison. You stay there until all your bad karma is gone. After that you get reincarnated but it may not be a great life
Wonderful explanation by Dr. Mikles!! However, she has made several inaccuracies in the section on Hinduism. Firstly, the caste system is not an inherent part of the religion but rather a cultural phenomenon. Hindu texts do not endorse untouchability or the caste system. Some Purāṇas that seem to support the caste system were actually modified by Christian missionaries during the colonial period and earlier by Buddhist missionaries (The original texts were burnt and no longer exist). The original verses do not mention a caste system but refer to a "Varna" system, which is based on occupation, not birth (i.e. any person can change their occupation if they wish to and is permitted by their family member). Another incorrect statement is made at 15:55: "A Dalit/untouchable touching a Brahmin results in bad karma." This is completely false. Many well-known Brahmins were born into Dalit families and often lived with and treated such families with respect. For instance, the revered sage Vyasa was born to a Dalit woman, and Sushruta, who was also a Brahmin, performed surgeries on people of lower castes and lived among them. There are many stories in Hinduism showing inter-caste marriages between the higher and lower caste. For example in Mahabharata, the great-grandmother of the Pandavas, was a Fisherwoman(lower caste) married to King Shantanu (upper caste). She was also the mother of Ved Vyasa ( A Brahmin and the author of the Mahabharat). Untouchability in India developed much later, largely as a result of the unhygienic living conditions in slums and lower-caste communities, and differences in language and culture. Many lower-caste families were not fluent in Sanskrit and were therefore prohibited from reciting the Vedas and other religious texts, as these texts were not available in written form in the early stages but were memorized and transmitted orally. The term "Dalit" gained prominence in the 19th and 20th centuries and was used to describe marginalized communities who were outside the traditional Hindu caste hierarchy (i.e. non Hindus), often referred to as "untouchables." It is not a religious word or in anyway affiliated with Hinduism...
Also as a Hindu from a deeply religious family, I was taught this line about hell from a young age: "Kam, Krodh, Mad, Lobh Sab Nath Narak Ke Panth." It translates to "Lust, anger, pride, and greed are all paths to hell." This line was spoken by Sant Kabir, who was born into a lower-caste family and is considered one of the most important spiritual teachers in Hinduism, Islam (in India), and Sikhism.
I wish the section on Hinduism/Buddhism was longer, especially with how the religions have changed over the past few milennia. They're very interesting, and I hope you can get more scholars to discuss it.
So I grew up in an extremely religious household. The fear of going to hell was very real to me for a long time. Over the years I started questioning things and noticed many inconsistencies with not just the Bible, but also with the people who claimed to believe in the Bible. I realize that some people need something to believe in because most of it comes from a fear of the unknown. My mother wholeheartedly believes in God and the words of the Bible. I, unfortunately, do not. I've realized that I'm much too skeptical to believe ANYTHING on faith, and because of that, I kind of envy people who can believe things like that. Life is a lot simpler when you think you know what happens after you die and I'm happy it brings my mother peace.
How did you escape the torment of constantly being afraid of going to hell because I actually am dealing with that right now I finally got done with Christianity oh I hate even saying that word and I I still have this fear that if I do something wrong or what the book of their stuff calls wrong am I going to end up going to hell how did you get over that fear?
I've had a lot of time to think about things. To make a long story short I realized that there's no point in worrying about something that we don't have any idea about. I've realized that I need to focus on the present and make my own destiny
@@jesseberry2046 I'm very sorry about that. Yeshua of Nazareth would probably be mad about people tormenting others to believe in God. I do alot of deep meditation. 20 times I have heard God's voice. 11.17.2015..Eve Beach, Waikiki evening. I couldn't find a book reading so I sat under the stars alone. I asked God, where do people go after they die. He answered, everybody goes to the same place. I asked God His name. He answered, Fundamentally E. I answered, energy of consciousness that suffuses everything. Every proton, neutron, electron, quark, spark of light and black hole. He answered, don't forget the science. He said a few more things but right now the focus is on the afterlife. My personal feeling is that there is enough pain and hell on Earth. You seem like a wonderful heartfelt gift. I'll teach you some Aramaic. Schlama means peace. Malkuth means heaven. Hubba means love. 3 things you know in your Soul. P.S. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem 5 decades ago. I can relate to how you feel.
Doomsday King,, I can relate. It is hard to take things on faith. I came to believe in God by what He empirically showed me. I used to mock people who thanked God. Then I had an unexpected spiritual experience 8.4.2015. Alot of mystical things have happened since. One of the wisest things God said..when you notice something, there is a reason. This also applies to you. It is wise to question and learn. One thing I can say is you seem like a wonderful person and a wonderful son. (My son is 22.) A gift from God aka bigger consciousness. Since I love Science fiction .I sometimes call God Klaatu One..from the film The Day the Earth stood still. Ironically my Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. I even worked on the editing of Jacob's Ladder with Tim Robbins. It's a very existential film. I also recommend Proffessor Joseph Campbell..Hero's Journey interviews with Bill Moyer. Man and Myth. Universal symbols and truths. Lchaim
My favorite part about being a Norse Pagan is that there is no belief or threat of eternal damnation. Basically just be a decent person, be a good host, give a gift after receiving one, and take care of others. Late edit: There is a place called "Nastrond" where the worst of the worst go but not much else is known.
@@bazinkaa Thanks for asking! Yes and no. Some do, some dont and its all equally valid as there's no official Bible or rule book. I personally live my life by the Havamal or "The Words of Odin" but I'm agnostic regarding the gods. It's a religion of what's best for you which is why I love it.
I think one of the fascinating things about Hinduism is that doesn't focus too much on descriptions of hell as much as the idea of falling from heaven to earth. The story Dr. Mikels tells is a fascinating one in that the heroes, the Pandavas, go to hell, along with Yudhisthira, but the latter also finds that the antagonists, the Kauravas, who are quite the vile bunch, in heaven (having died on the battlefield, they get a direct ticket to heaven). It was a weird concept to me, and I still don't fully understand it. I've been told the idea is that there is a different standard of behaviour for the good, and they can't be held to the same standards of Dharma as the evil. Even though all of this is factually nonsense, I just can't help loving those stories.
So basically not only do you "suffer the mental anguish of being separated from God" but you ALSO, as Dr. Ehrman described it, get to imagine others' Instagram-versions of themselves in Heaven. DEFINITELY the modern take on Hell. 👍🏼😂
God, the sun, leaves us (northern hemisphere) as the Lord God, who is a Sun and a Shield falls below the equinoxes into the southern hemisphere. At the next spring equinox, the Lord God, who is a sun and a shield will leave the southern hemisphere and enter the northern hemisphere. At this time we will say "God is with us."
I grew up an Evangelical and was taught about the horrors of Hell from a young age. I consider teaching kids that crap child abuse! It terrified me! I lived in fear of messing up and God sending me there. Even though I am an atheist now, there is still a small part of me that fears Hell. Yes, I was that indoctrinated! It is very hard to get over.
I totally agree. Moreover, I think kids should be kept away from religion until they are old enough to make a decision on what to believe. Parents or tutors shouldn't have the right to choose a religion for them.
I ended up with religious OCD that started when I was around 5 and I’m still kind of afraid to talk about my own beliefs. I feel silly because of it but there’s a part of me that’s worried that god will know that I’ve definitely made up my mind about not believing and he’ll kill me. When I was younger my mom taught me that that’s what happens. I’m extremely thankful that I’m able to get therapy.
@@Residentevil1.5 I also suffer from OCD and for years I would pray at the exact same time *every single day* . And if I forgot to pray I would start panicking because of the immense fear of God giving up on me and my family. Like damn.
even tho I've started questioning a LOT of stuff that's considered religious, im still afraid at the back of my head about shit like what if hell is real, what if god hates me because I don't pray 5 times a day, don't wear religion appropriate clothing. and the cherry on top: what would happen after I die? it's mostly the fear of the unknown tho.
Up to the Islam bit (and I've heard Christians make this similar statement)... If not knowing Islam gives you a free pass to heaven... but knowing about it and rejecting it sends you to hell. Wouldn't the most moral thing to be to not talk about your religion, to let it die out? Then the most amount of people as possible end up in heaven.
Exactly. Which is why you DON’T go to heaven by being ignorant. Romans 1 says everyone has sufficient knowledge to NY l be condemned, they need more knowledge to be able to repent to God
Damn that just gave me a whole new perspective..and another argument to piss off some of my muslim friends 😂. I'm really curious as to what a muslim has to say (a counter) about what you said here bcz it sounds like a really solid argument.
Lol islam straight up copied Christianity like heck both have same beliefs of one god and having some grudge against idol worshiper both are barbaric and have done pretty cruel things in history.
I love how you have all these ethical and philosophical discussions of how you get into Hell and it's nature in most religions, and then you get to Judaism and it's very bureaucratic and technical. "Hell is a washing machine, but you get vacations. But if you haven't applied for our services then you get a free pass."
It does seem that Judaism may be the way to go. I have an aunt who converted… can I use her as a reference? After all, she’s already in one place or the other.
@@alinanymus6830 Honestly, this is why in my opinion, all post Christ Abrahamic traditions have developed in a way that ONLY by worship of their specific god can allow you into thier heaven. They prey on the natural fear of death to get people to convert.
@@alinanymus6830 I think its impossible to narrow down anyones or even most peoples reason for belief or non-belief to two options. The individual has a myriad of reasons for why they are religious/spiritual. Saying most people are religious because they fear hell or want heaven is as disingenuous as saying most athiests are so due to being angry at god or wanting to sin. Its an ingroup good outgroup bad bias that doesnt really help the sociological analysis of religion and spirituality. I think theres a massive difference between what the individual experiences, and what the institution prioritizes.
As an hindu i have never really cared as i have been vegetarian. Apart from that even athiest are welcomed in here worship god or not doesn't matter just make sure to cover ur bad deeds bt doing good deeds to avoid hell which exist on earth u may born poor if u insult one in ur present life time ....
There is a Swedish comedian who said that as a child he realized the best way to stay out of Christian Hell. And that was - sin all your life and do what you want, and when you are close to death - say to god "I'm sorry, I repent".
For Muslims just go to mekka -in Saudi Arabia- do Hajj which basically gets rid of all your sins and maybe die defending your country for bonus points hhhh that's my plan at least
Actually that is what you are supposed to do. Otherwise Jesus's sacrifice would be wasted on you. Jesus's sacrifice is the licence for you to do what you want and then accept Jesus as saviour to get out of hell. Remember redemption is by grace alone, not deeds.
The problem is, you don't always know when you're gonna die. What if final destination kind of stuff happens and it insta kill you without the time to react to anything let alone thinking about repenting
You could very well do that… assuming you have a true faith and a true repentance which would really suck if your at the end of your life. You would look at your life with basically only regret. And if you got to Heaven it would really suck tbh you’d have to answer for your sins straight to Jesus hm not fun. But you’d make it smh
Reminds me of an Emo Phillips joke. "When I was a kid I used to pray to every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me."
As someone who fell out of Faith after being raised by two Buddhist parents who each converted from a different kind of Christianity, I have been told by my extended family that I'm definitely going to. Hell, I've been told by my parents that I might have a hard time, and being queer and having tattoos doesn't help. I love studying this stuff but f*** if I don't hope the authorities of the hereafter have a sense of humor.
13:01 I never heard about that. The version of Mahabharata that I (and most Hindus) grew up with was that they (the Pandavas) tried to enter Heaven with their body by climbing up the Himalayas, a dog followed them up the snowy hill and after his brothers died, Yudhisthira was told to abandon the dog to go to heaven but he refused. It was revealed that the dog was a God in disguise and Yudhisthira got to go to heaven “saha sharir” (with his body). Also, caste is Portuguese. Before British invasion and the caste census, that was purely profession based. After they left, it quickly became that way again. Jatis are much like Japanese clans, which weren't always birth based either. I didn't look up Meenakshi Jain until after watching Ellie Dashwood's YT video “Are Elizabeth and Darcy In The Same Social Class?” I'd love to see her sources and the actual Sanskrit texts they're derived from. I have a feeling it'll be interesting to read them with Sanskrit scholars. I wonder if they'll also go for “koti” meaning thousand instead of type. 16:20 Brahmins are simply people who CHOSE to live a life pursuing scholarly stuff. Spitting in a Brahmin's food is like tricking a vegetarian/vegan into eating meat. J. Sai Deepak's work “India that is Bharat” is, as he puts it a glossary for other references. I won't tell you to believe him, cz he's a practicing Hindu and quite proud of it, but I'd implore you to look up other perspectives. Can't say how good it is, cz I haven't read it yet. He says some of the same things that were considered common knowledge in India, though. Hindu hell is like the Greek Underworld. You're getting isekai'd, buddy. Just hope that it's as easy as anime makes it look.
I spoke to a young theology student who was writing an entire book on this subject a few months ago. He was inspired by this video to write a detailed study on how each religion perceives hell and how cardinal sins differ depending on religion. I hope it gets published soon
never been religious myself, but the other side of my family is catholic (we’re irish american), n I went to a jewish school for a good six or so years. I really appreciate how what I was taught there clearly wasn’t meant to scare me into behaving a certain way - I don’t think I was ever even told about hell. my experience with judaism is that the main tenant is just to not be an asshole, and that what you do while you’re alive matters a lot more than whatever afterlife there might be. in terms of religion-specific stuff, we learned more about historical events than scripture, and what I’ve gathered overtime is that a lot of people view the religion as more of a guideline? I’ve met plenty of jewish folks over the years who don’t believe in the old testament stories or even a god but feel like just existing as a community for so long and weathering hardships together has created something with human spirit alone that is just as profound and worth celebrating and having faith in. I guess that’s sort of where I land spiritually too - don’t believe in any physical god but I believe that we as humans, in being nice to one another and creating art and such, are god in a way as for my catholic experience? yeah I’m going to hell. technically all you have to do is confess your sins to have them forgiven, but there’s some things I do I know are sin in catholicism that I’d never apologize for. like, if hell is real and I go there for being gay then at least I’ll be with my people and not somewhere where everything’s supposed to be perfect but everyone hates me. I’m willing to risk it
Agreed I’m a religious Jew but I really struggle with faith and tbh I don’t know how much I believe. But even though I’ve grown up pretty hardcore orthodox, hell just isn’t something talked about that much. We more focus on doing good now lol . But reading your life story btw was extremely fascinating.
That's about the best summary of Judaism I have heard from a non-Jew. Thank you for paying attention, and not overlaying fear of the Christian G-d on everything you heard. Best wishes; may your soul find joy, if that's how it works, but I don't know, because I'm Jewish ...
You pretty much have it. The essence of Judaism lies in what you do, not so much in what you believe. Right beliefs and all that are encouraged, not because something bad happens to you otherwise but because they lead to right actions. Buddhists will recognize this part, of course. The afterlife is not stressed in Judaism, because we know very little about. Our texts barely mention it and what little they say, is very vague. Mind you, various thinkers down the centuries have worked out various solutions that fit what little we're told; some of these systems are incredibly intricate and very fully developed. But the open secret is this: they're all just theories and models and nobody really knows.... and nobody CAN really know. We all agree that whatever it is, it is governed by Divine Justice and Divine Mercy, and together they form a fair result for all. It's the details and the mechanics that are up for grabs. Hell doesn't figure in most of the Jewish models. It simply doesn't. There have only been a few splinter sects that really have a hell, as such. Many have something closer to Catholic Purgatory, a limited cleansing that might well be very unpleasant; the unpleasantness might consist of fully appreciating the harm you've caused along the way but on the plus side that's accompanied appreciating the good you've done along the way. A final thought: Because we don't have damnation, we don't have what Christians call salvation. Nothing to be "saved" from, in that sense. Yet there is something far more important to be "saved" from - and that's a world which isn't as good as it could be. And we know how to save ourselves from that world - - - by working to improve it. It's hard, and it has taken a long time so far, but I think it has mostly improved century after century - undoubtedly with a bunch of backslides too. But in the long view, it does get better. And that's not just us working on it; everybody can work to make it better right here and right now. You are not obligated to finish the job, but neither can you shirk your load.
@@hakaishin918its messed up no matter who's saying it buddy The "role reversal" card is such a stupid argument. Condem the action whether it's the group you're in or not
I find it very disgusting how some people who created some of these traditions suggest that some people will go to one hell or another for acts of no fault of their own like disbelief, accidentally getting menstrual blood on somebody, and other similar things. How in the world anyone figures people should be tortured for honest mistakes is beyond me.
@@s0ne01 it isn't anyone's fault because they disbelieve something. Anyone who disbelieves something feels they have good reason that something is not true, and it is utterly absurd to punish somebody if they turn out to be wrong. Imagine all the nicest old little Christian Church ladies bathing in fire whose Heat is almost equivalent to the center of the Sun for violating some of the tenants in the religion of Islam if Islam turns out to be true. Now you tell me why those little ladies would deserve this just because they believed all other religions besides Christianity were false. Nobody deserves to be punished as though they made a mistake on purpose. This is what religions that teach punishment for Thought crimes suggests about everybody else. No faithful Muslim, Christian, hindu, Etc deserves to be punished at all in the hell depicted by another religion if any one of these religions turn out to be true.
@@brucecook502 i ain't gonna read alk that. If you choose not to belive something then it is the persons fault. Especially if given the oppertunity to learn about said thing.
Having grown up atheist, my fear of death sometimes has made me wish I had been religious. This video is a good reminder why I should wish for no such thing.
Indeed. It could be a lot worse. Lots of religious people become atheists but never shed the carnal fear of hell and end up with regular nightmares for their entire life of going to hell. Dying on a rock all alone with no hope for immortality is bad enough without thinking you're also gonna get tortured eternally for being gay or somethin
It's interesting to see some similarities between the different religions. In the Buddhist hell for women, they may be boiled in their own menstrual blood, and in Judaism, you may be at risk of being boiled in other bodily fluids. It's such a weird thing to have in common.
@@nicolesiol I think it was for making holy things impure, so the menstrual blood part of that was just one aspect, so like a man would also get bad karma if he made a monk/nun/offering/Buddha statue impure somehow according to that sutra
It's weird from here too - that is not a universal Jewish tenet. It's a debated theory that resulted from a (highly respected committee) hashing out what might be hidden behind the Scriptures. "It's debated" is Jewish code for, "somebody I respect too much to argue with thought of this, but G-d never said it."
My personal stance as an atheist is: why would believing in god change your fate if you were a good person. Ones actions should be the driving force of salvation, not that there is an all powerful being above us.
@@jamescogswell9297 I’ve always wondered this but what exactly is god? And why do we have no pictures of him no presence of him no trace of him no our realm of earth. People get mad at atheists for not believing in god but how do we know he exist himself or herself
@@zegobot9674 God is an all-powerful being who created everything. There are no pictures because no one has seen his face. He has given evidence over time of His existence, and the rest is taken on faith, because of the evidence that can be found.
There’s a saying in my religion (Nichiren Shōshu Buddhism) that hell is a state of mind that you can fall into, of pure despair and anguish, but that you can always crawl out of it by doing good upon others and receiving good karma. I find that interpretation a lot easier to live with.
In Hinduism there is a scripture that explains hells in detail and what will happen if you do something wrong. It is in very detail, and when some one dies that story/what hell is described. So there family can do good deeds on behalf of the dead one THE SCRIPTURE IS CALLED ("GARUN PURAN") 13:11 she is telling correctly but shes missing some crucial facts. DISCLAIMER "This scripture is only readed by the saint when someone dies in the family"
Coming from a very religious family in Indonesia (the largest Muslim country in the world), I'm used to elderly people try to behave me by mentioning about heaven and hell as consequences of my act. I somehow never get scared of it to the point that it stops me to do bad thing ( I stop because I know I have to). But I truly believe that hell does exist and it's a place for scary things happen to sinners. I might also enter it since I've done lots of bad things throughout my life. But it makes me have a better relationship with Allah. Because I believe He's merciful, I'll ask His forgiveness whenever I slipped and made mistakes.
Good thinking brother/sister. Stay on the right path, read Quran, and pray often, not because of punishment but because you should love the maker of this universe and you.
@@megamuslimchadWhy does people love's a God who will "punish" alot's of non-believers? Is it because God give them something called life spam? Isn't death is the meaning of life for human, according to God's mind?
@@Mr_Schizo The reason why people love god is because god is merciful. No one except the arrogants are burned for eternity. Not an atom size of injustice is done.
as a hindu I've been told that both hell and heaven coexist on earth and we all are in it already. some people are blessed so they are living in heaven and some are unfortunate because of poverty, toxic family, illness, depression, etc some people are living in hell. it's not some place outside earth that you travel after death
This sounds rather calvinist to me. Like, those in power and wealth deserve so by gods own decree and if your life is hell on earth, it's your own sins to blame. Pretty lame attempt of the ruling class to solidify and justify the status quo as god-given.
@@rumpelstilzz you misunderstood bro. it's not all about money but about happiness. read my comment again 50 times and maybe you will understand some of it
Yes, we are already there. Heaven and Hell are not places we go after we die, but places we are at now that are dependent on our actions and how we affect the world. Its very silly most people think of these as places you go after you die and that someone else is judging us.
This video's title is such an effective hook. I saw the idea of just detailing how best to contradict the morals of specific groups as the perfect middle finger to those who attempt to enforce their religious beliefs on others, without necessarily proposing any of your own person beliefs. While the hilarity of this approach is what pulled me in, I'm enjoying the detailed history of the ideas religions present and I thank you for providing a platform to informed individuals.
Yes! I have been waiting for this video! I tried contacting the Catholic Church and they refused to tell me how to "blaspheme", which according to the Catholic doctrine is the only "unforgivable sin".
@@41-Haiku - I actually asked that. Apparently "taking the Lord's name in vain" isn't what they mean when they say to blaspheme. It is something very specific, and they refused to tell me what it was.
“‘Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.’ There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.” CCC 1864
In Hinduism, the importance does not lie in punishment in hell. The emphasis is on reincarnation, which gives one who did wrong another chance rather than simply punishing them. And I think that is a better approach.
@@carloselfrancos7205 According to Hinduism, good values and morals is something every person is born with. However influences like lust, greed, anger, and laziness drive people to commit sin and we must break free from that to break free from the cycle of reincarnation. Also rebirths aren't only due to sin, but also due to karma or curses.
@@wnysjournal which doesn't contradict what I'm saying : "if you don't remember previous lives, you can't have another chance", precisely because you can't really learn from past lives' mistakes And besides, he said "I think that [reincarnation] is a better approach", compared to, say, Christianity. I don't think Hindus would say that Hinduism was intended by (human) designers to be a "better approach" than other (human) designers, would they? It is nonsense to me to say that a religion is "arguably better" from another, based on any argument that is not "Truth".
There's a really good Japanese film from 1960 called 'Jigoku' (Japanese for hell) that is probably one of the most vivid depictions of hell in cinema, especially the Buddhist version. I watch it every October as part of my Japanese/Asian horror lineup for Halloween.
It's fascinating reading through the comments. I'm Jewish, with five children. I don't think I've ever discussed Hell/Gehinnom with them. We have discussed Heaven/Gan Eden with them. When their Grandfather died, we explained that he is happy with G-d in Heaven now. One reason why the disembodied soul is in torment is this: Souls prefer to be in Heaven, close to G-d. The more elevated a soul is, the closer they become to the ecstasy of G-d. But the only way to elevate a soul is through mitzvot/good deeds. And you can only do that with a body. Souls agree to be born in order to elevate themselves. If a person messes up so completely that both Heaven and Hell rejects them, they don't have the comfort of Heaven or even the purification of Hell. But they don't have a body either. This state of limbo is truly a torment. All that being said, the concept of a dybbuk isn't really big in Judaism anymore. Like the Doctor explained, Judaism is a very "Here and Now" religion. Dwelling on Hell or disembodied souls is pretty pointless. EDIT: I was just reading Little Town on The Prairie, and in the book they discuss revival meetings, with the minister ranting about sinners and hellfire. I was trying to explain the concept to my children, and my 7 yr old daughter said "What's Gehinnem?"
I tend to take this more as a euphemism for a desirable or undesirable future. I don't see G-d as having a need for such as we see it, with interpretations suggesting our consciousness may be a sum of parts of many souls. Anyway, time may not be linear with G-d's perspective and elevation is probably only achieved when your living.
@@Faizan29353 Notice how she said Gehinnom for hell, just like we say Jahannam for hell, didn't really know hebrew and arabic was this similar, but I do know both are semitic
@@kaleidozomade the joke i wanted to lmao (but in all seriousness op, my partner has a panic disorder and it sucks. hope you get the meds and coping mechanisms that work!)
As someone who was raised Anglo-Catholic and focused on the European Middle Ages in my university work, I have particularly enjoyed reading several of Dr. Ehrman's books, especially his _Lost Christianities _ on early movements in Christianity which were later defined as heresies. Since the vicious attacks on Islam as a faith, not those who abuse it in terrorist attacks, after 9/11, I've also studied the reality of Classical Islam and Judaism. I'm not sure if I am going to Hell, but all we can do, I think, is try to treat others, both animal and human, with kindness and respect, and trust in God's mercy.
Buddhism has a bunch of different strains, East Asian countries mostly practice Mahayana[0] and what discussed in the video is mostly related to this, but I think the biggest strain is Theravada[1] which is practiced in South Asian countries. In Theravada Buddhism, there are 5 sure fire ways to go to hell and stay there forever called "Anantarika karma"[2]. 1) Killing one's mother 2) Killing one's father 3) Killing an Arahant (Arahant is a special kind of monk who understand the truth about the all existence, they will not be reborn after death) 4) Wounding a Tathagata (Tathagata is a Buddha, there have been a lot of Buddhas in the past) 5) Creating schism in the Sangha Also there are some things you could do(mostly doing harm to a Buddha) where the ground will literally split and you will be dragged down to hell in a fire storm by daemons. [0]:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana [1]:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theravada [2]:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anantarika-karma
This is so true Thank you for commenting also I want to point that I was disgusted and disappointed when she said all women are or mostly likely destined to go to hell in Buddhism NO! we have something called "chethanava" or better "chetanahan biqave kamman wadami" these are the words that were spoken by buddha to put it simply it means Karma is what you think and do, for an example when you are walking you are most likely stomping and killing ants is this going to add bad karma to you no, if you are purposefully killing ants yes its going to add bad karma. So the point is unless you do something bad intentionally you are not going to get in trouble So... no, being a women is not a certificate of Im going to hell in Theravada Buddhism.
@@thisewbasnayake2388 like I said, I think they're talking about Mahayana. I have no idea being a woman is a cause to goto hell in Mahayana, which could be true because even Therawada is quite sexist.
There's no coincidence that when tribal societies transitioned to city-states with kings who threw lawbreakers into a dungeon, that the god issued laws and suddenly had a hell to get tossed into.
There is pure English verb to transition, to reference to parent, to gift and various other noun- verb monstrosities of that pidgin or dialect of pure English that is American, the tongue of the Kinderlander.
Check out Dr. Bart Ehrman’s “Other Virgin Births” course here:
gmskeptic--ehrman.thrivecart.com/other-virgin-births/
= WEAK I could defeat Erman in a debate!
The 4 gospels don’t contradict, they’re 4 viewpoints that coincide with each other!
Virgin birth stories started long before Jesus because Satan was there in Genesis 3:15 when he heard God say to him, “the seed of the woman will crush your head“!
Satan’s trying to stop that from happening
Wanna hang out when we get to hell? (I'll bring fresh baked cookies) lol 😉
@@jjphank Dude, seriously? Even the resurrection narratives are all over the place. Did Mary M. come alone? Who or what did she see? When did it happen? You'd think the Bible-compilers who attempted to standardize the orthodoxy could at least get the most critical and foundational event right.
Will we get a follow up "How to go to heaven in every religion"?
I have been told to "go to hell" several times but this is the first time I've been given actual specific directions.
Very, very funny!
@@carlosserrano3823 Yeah it's actually funny, I don't know what's the problem?
@@flintfrommother3gaming The problem to me is that I could not stop laughing,.Humour seems to me an appropriate response to the idea of the religious Hells.
@@carlosserrano3823 I kinda misinterpreted your comment but just so you know repeating something 2 times in a row is generally used in ironic context.
Lmao
As an atheist I'm honored to know that every hell is fighting for my presence
Hell only follows one religion, and if all religion simultaneously exists, it wouldn't be possible. So the only reasonable assumption is that either one's real and all is fake.. Or none is real. Religious folks.. Atleast most of them.. Would be fine either way.. Atheists however..
@@r7ahtesham885 Well, people will explode over this but... none is real.
@@DeadAccount53885 As I said, if none is real it still won't affect us. If one is real however, true justice will be delivered to believers and non-believers alike.
But if you mean in a metaphysical or a philosophical way, you'd be the last one people should listen to. Atheism is the lack of belief of god or some kind of power, so you have no footing to debate such thing and should only rely on science... but religious people.. need science..
Matter of fact, they created it. Science's foothold is religious people. The only atheist that had a large place in science was Charles Darwin, but he still considered himself as a "theist". Only modern day scientists are good scientists with a lack of belief but even then their philosophy on god is trash
@@r7ahtesham885 I have footing. I didnt want to say this because i found it unnecessary to offend anyone, but, every religion is just a massive lie. I DO have footing. Its pure logic. Religion is basically this: There might be a god, and people say there is, but there is no way to disprove it (as it doesnt exist) but there is also no way to prove it (becuase it still doesnt exist). So people just keep saying stuff like that they believe there is one and there is no way to disprove it. Most religions absolutely hated science as it went against their beliefs (lies), such as street lighting would make god angry because we would break the day-night cycle, or when they wanted to kill some guy (i forgot his name) for saying that the earth isnt in the center of the solar system and that it spins and moves. I should be the first one people should listen to, because EVERY religion is obsolete and has ZERO place in a modern society. There are also massive logic holes, such as why do churches need money? Couldnt god just materialize some for them? Or why arent divine interventions happening? Because no one would believe they happened anymore. The bible was written when people were stupid, so everyone believed that an omnipotent beinig exists, and it got deep rooted in society. The same thing happened to every other religion. Some story that would be plausible at the time, but obviously not true by today's standards. Religions are full of logic holes and only people who dont think about them are religious.There, you wanted this, now you got it. I offended like half of the people watching this video to prove my point. God doesnt exist, and no amount of getting offended over will change that. Your entire arguement is "some book says a thing".
@@DeadAccount53885 I'm gonna be short because it's bed time, but all I'm gonna say is that if you want to judge religion as a concept that's fine, but every religion has huge amount of differences, some of them don't even believe in the concept of God.
Which is why jumping into the conclusion of "there is no god" itself is illogical, not just the differences but also how not believing in God is illogical too.
I'll tell you later but the one I kind of have an issue about is "Your entire argument is this book said so"
Which is stupid because that's literally every ideology or science ever. How did rockets go into space "this article said it did and how it did it". See how twisted this kind of argument is?
Idk about others, but if you want to tackle religion, you have to know why. Why is Hinduism for example stupid? You can't tell unless you go deep into it, you probably did about... I suppose Christianity.. There are problems in the bible sure but the bible also got so many things right, my religion tells me that it's because the Bible was indeed given to them by god but it got corrupted..
BTW, you said that "I probably offended half the people reading this" maybe but I wasn't.. I actually appreciate your honesty, because the problem with people is that they lack honesty and lets their emotions do the thinking.. My religion tells me that there are signs given to everyone that he indeed exists, and that he gave us the mind, the eyes and the ears to peice it together yet some don't.. Because "it's not the eyes that are blind but the heart". My religion literally depends on logic, of course it's been under debate because we claim that there's no contradictions nor loophole, so I engaged with some of them and it's just verses taken out of context and genuine lies.
I also appreciate your willingness of not offending people, but that's not the right attitude, you should stick to your truth while being respectful.
I'll probably respond with some more after like.. 12 hours but till then I am looking forward to your response, take care 👍
I love how he asked them how to get to hell and EACH OF THEM interpreted it as how to avoid hell
Dr. Sledge more or less understood the assignment 😅. It seems like Drew also oscillated between getting into and avoiding hell.
Yeah
It’s a shorter list that way 💀 a lost one that has a comment agreement whereas the opposite is a longer list that has not been peer reviewed enough lol
@@PrincesaLuneztbf a list of things with "and" in between each of them can be directly opposed by a list of the opposite actions with "or" in between. Example:
- Don‘t kill AND
- Don‘t steal AND
- Be pious
Is opposed by
- Kill OR
- Steal OR
- Don‘t be pious.
Same length.
@@Buphidode morgan’s law
No matter what religion you pick, most of the world will think that you're wrong.
💀💀💀
@@mertaliyigit3288 and who cares about what people think as long as you find it the truth
Well, tbf, they're right. XD
Yet, for some reason, all of these scholars can't provide proof that does a better job as real proof than other religions! And if everyone is wrong? No one is.
@@AmrK.X every religion says they offer the truth lol
One of my close friends recently went to Hell, stayed there for few days and returned. He said it was a beautiful experience, and I too hope to visit Norway someday.
😂😂😂
*Helheim
😂😂😂
@@Hazaroth It's Hell in Lånke, Stjørdal.
Or Hella in Iceland. Or the Hellmouth (Helmond) in Netherlands.... Loads of hell's on earth... Nice to have spa-days.
With the devil cast down on earth that should not be that crazy - this is his domain after all.
finally i can stop being a casual sinner and i can start to be a competitive sinner
"How we get here" achievement unlocked
life speedrun hell%
@@shrekiscool4743 Life - Speedrun Category: "Hell 100%"
Fuck casual sinning, we're going ranked boys.
Religion is a scam made by book authors to sell more books,
On top of that it is a pyramid scheme where every member recruits it's own children
People keep telling me to do this. Nice to finally have a guide on how
Once I go there, I'll ask the landlord about the reviews and general opinion, like why are so many people recommending me this place?
Once I make it there I volunteer to be a part of the welcoming committee. There’s a person in particular that I hope to have a welcoming party for if I make it there before him
It's quite thoughtful of people to say they'll see me there.
"Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to hell in a way that makes them look forward to the trip." 😏
"Can my wife, Stacy, get you anything?"
"Go to hell, Tom."
"Already there, darling."
Ferb, I know what we're going to do today.
The more interesting part of this episode would be how doctor doofenshrmirts somehow ends up erasing all of the evidence
Bro 💀
@@Or_is_it_spelled_Charlieit would be misfiring some totally mundane boring inator device too
@@smugscribbles6667 "You know Perry The Platypus, I didn't actually think my Frenchtoastinator was capable of opening a portal to hell and erasing all traces of sin."
Didn’t like that your likes were sitting at 665, thank me later 🥰
When telling someone to go to hell isn't enough, now you can give them detailed instructions.
Verry underated comment , good job mate
Send them the video with a timestamp
LMAOO that's some next level shit 😂💀
Has no-one yet explained to you *why* not... *Ever* to use those asinine and infantile symbols used*on'y* by bimbecile children for no sane adult would ever use anything so asinine and infantile for of being taken for an imbecile child, as it is hard to avoid inferring that you are?
By using them you are telling all the wotld that you are an imbecile child, but matter for you, matter for you; I could not help inferring that
Growing up with Buddhism hell stories, you have no idea how terrifying it was. As a kid, every time I did sth I was not supposed to, I was scared the ground would crack open and swallow me up.
It didn't help that I would go out of my ways to read up various 'true stories' out of morbid fascination. Probably how my horror addiction started.
I was raised in a very strict Christian house and it was no different
That came as a surprise to me. I used to think the constant threat of eternal damnation (which a trillion-year long punishment essentially is) was something specific to Abrahamic faiths and did not exist in Eastern religions.
@@samg.5165 It's not an eternal damnation; you will be free once you've paid for your bad deeds. Still it's scary for children to hear "don't do that, you'll go to hell" when just explaining bad actions may lead to bad consequences would do the trick. It's not as bad as what I have heard from a lot of people growing up with Abrahamic religions. Although eastern religions have somewhat better rep, I believe the concept of using fear to control people exist in every religions. I know a lot of Buddhists doing good things - charities, donations - because they want the rewards of good deeds, good karma ( which will cancel out bad karma that may get them to hell then be reborn as lesser beings ) , not because they genuinely are good people.
@@mahogara Billions, trillions and quadrillions of years are essentially the same as eternity, at least the way I see it. Most people break from isolation alone (no physical torture needed) in a matter of days or weeks. When life in the shortest Nakara lasts for millions of years at the very least, being reborn as a worm or a plant seems rather tame in comparison.
Then again, perhaps this aspect of Buddhism isn't emphasized as much as hell is in Christianity and Islam. But like you say, reward and punishment is a concept universal to all religions.
but you get out eventually much nicer than eternity
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Thanks! Was looking for this.
@@snrnsjd 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@snrnsjd nahh 😭
It should be a sin that this video is not timestamped.
@@snrnsjd 😊p
Spirituality is creating your own reality by learning from your stepping stones and raising your vibration to be your best self and achieve your mission goals in this lifetime.
actually this makes alot sense to me... i kind of live like that whithout even being aware of the tradition. it just feels natural to me... i mean most religions are more about power and control
then anything else ... they lost the essence ... i think those 4 core principles are the essence and also the reason why its just healthy to choose to live by thees
"values". ….. being spiritual not religeous... doing the right thing for the greater good not just for personal gain... no need to live on your knees as long you dont put those close to you down. dont be so greedy. there would be enough for all of us... but yo i guess every herd got its black sheep but the european mind is more down whith the devil, the EGO ... false light blindet by there beauty lol .
...who are the real
Savages? not everything that shines is gold... the devil is a liar. no matter which shade of brown or whatever... positiv giving or Negative taking... balance just some thoughts and thnx for providing these infos. PEACE out & greetings from Germany
Please can someone recommend any spiritual therapist?
Yes, Dhitik_scott. She has been my spiritual therapist for a while now. She’s amazing and natural. She has really been helpful guiding me in unlocking my full potentials spirituality is a right meant for everyone to enjoy, I’ve experienced so much spiritual awakening and healing period over the years now just for her sake.
Please, how do I reach her?
Is she on TikTok?
As a child I strongly wished to die tragically so I could go straight to heaven and it seems like many others thought the same thing. Is really hard to avoid hell as an adult lmao
I was the same
I had the concept of becoming a “free bird” in heaven if you die as a kid shoved in my face so much, I desired it too because I thought “maybe I'll get to die before my doubts solidify into something scary” lmao (muslim btw)
omg yes me too. just imagine a 10 y.o something kid wanting to die to enter heaven.
The concept of having to die for your religion to have the best heaven as a martyr is so fucked up
same I remember wanting the rapture to happen or to die when I was little because I wanted to go to heaven and I was scared that when Im older I would go to hell because I wasnt pure anymore.
Really helpful for my Hell% speedrun attempts. Thanks!👍
Ah, fuck. I should've put *Hellpful.
There are infinitely many hells so the completion % is always 0%.
@@aaronbredon2948 The category isn't for how many hells one has visited, but how quickly one can get to any given hell. Set-seed is really well-optimized, and players live off of guides like this.
@@guycoolSpore2 you _could_ edit your comment, you know.
@@MaryAnnNytowl The realization of a better joke is a funnier premise than someone else noticing I edited it later and mentioning it in a reply.
To be honest my fear isn’t Hell or Heaven, my fear is of Eternity, whether it’s horrific or tremendous. To experience anything forever, something that will never end, to truly try and grasp that concept…you can’t. I can’t. That is probably my one true fear
oh god this was my exact childhood fear which lead me to religious trauma. i wanted to go to hell bc the idea of eternal heaven was too scary for me to the point where i wanted to avoid any religious discussions as a kid. nice to see someone with an alike mind.
Good thing none of it exists. You’ll die: the end
@@camogrrl antitheist cringe
Have you tried expanding your horizons, maybe picking up some new fears, spiders, heights, needles, your toes falling off? It’s good too be ambitious.
From what I can tell, your soul isn't just you but immortal; it's an incomprehensibly vast entity of which your consciousness is but a fraction of, and that a lot of what you think is you is just the organic, temporary part of your mind that is fallable and mortal, and that is broken away from when you die.
The closest I can reconcile a concept like purgatory or hell, is that it's a state of being that helps souls that are clinging to their mortality to reconcile with the end of their mortal existence - a psychologically painful process - and move on as something greater.
The fact that you find the concept of eternity as terrorizing is a sign of wisdom, because you can tell that the human consciousness as it is isn't supposed to be immortal.
**Ancient Greek Tartarus:** cannibalism, familicide, assaulting/kidnapping/impersonating a god, robbing temples, murder and tyranny (some crimes like manslaughter could be mitigated if the victims forgave them after a trial period). I think you’re good.
**Ancient Egyptian damnation** (getting your heart/soul eaten): 42 judges would analyze your sins-like bearing false witness-then consider the context and advise Anubis. Even murder could be excused if you were, say, preventing greater loss of life. I have no context for your actions as weighed against the feather of truth, so 🤷♀️
damn never knew roleplaying anime twink apollo would be my ticket to tartarus but lets gooo
Ah shit, i impersonated zeus the other day, off i go to tartarus
The more i learn the sadder i am cristianity is the dominate religion. What if i like cat statues.
@@bettertobethoughtafool then worship them. you only live once (or do you?)
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Thanks bro ❤
This is useful
thank youu❤
Thx man, you're a real one.
Thanks buddy
If evil demons torture you in hell for your sins, don’t those demons work for God?
Yeah that doesn't really make alot of sense
yeah either god is allowing them to do this (in which case he is not benevolent) or he is unable to stop them from doing this (in which case he is not all powerful) the Christian, Judaic, and Islamic God are supposed to be omnibenevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent (all good, all knowing, and all powerful) so this is a contradiction.
@@electricfishfan Yeah, the reason is that he gave us the free will to be evil and we would have gone to heaven, we’re just not at the front of the list
i think that the idea is that demons love torturing people so they don't work for God per say, they just get the opportunity to do what they already loved doing
@@stefanmeglei6094 Cool and all but man you should really go to Bed
Fun fact
Hell is often described as being filled with brimstone(sulfur) and sulfur burns with a blue flame, so realistically Hell would have blue flames rather than the red it’s usually depicted with.
This explains Blue Exorcist... (anime)
What about black?
A bit like Soul Fire in Minecraft then
damn coca cola
That sounds lovely.
The hindu version seems very off though. Hinduism doesn't really have a hell or heaven. The idea is to escape the cycle of rebirth because this life is already hell, so that your soul can join the big soul. That being said, it's a religion which does not have one single text as a source and there are many narratives based on who you ask. But broadly speaking, heaven and hell aren't really a thing in religion, it's a western religion thing.
And srimad bhavatam too you can see briefly mentioning hell and also mentioned every action in this life sin. Heaven has a different level if you want happiness without you going back to sansara.
Yeah, it would be interesting to do a full exploration of Hinduism and hell - because my understanding is that there are many lokas (realms/planets), some of which are existing in parallel with our own. Your own mind can take you to hell, based on how you think/feel/intend. And I've also heard of Garuda Purana as someone else mentioned; something about how Garuda helps people move from the intermediary realm to their next birth. My personal belief is that your karma determines your next life, and that life can be heaven or hell. Your way to escape all of this is to do spiritual practices and good deeds.
The truth is Hinduism is an amalgamation of different schools of thought. Coz we were called specific things (Shaivites, Vaishnavites, etc.) but the Brits came in and said, cool, they all seem like they could fall into the bracket of "Hindu." Having said that, there is a core principle that we are all one - Brahman. We are, essentially, god. But our ego and the maya deludes us into doing stupid shit.
If we are all ONE, the best thing you can do is to be kind and loving to everyone. (Which is what all religions say)
If you want a bad rebirth, be a complete asshole and morally depraved.
I also think some of these writings have to be contextualized, coz during those days being born as a woman didn't give you much agency. So, the commentators could have inferred that being born a woman THEN (frankly, even now to some extent) meant more hardships and challenges than the average man. BUT I don't think karma works in this weird simplistic unilateral way. There's complexity: you can be born a woman and yet, be born into privilege and your own individualized life experience is highly positive. The inference is NOT that women are lesser, the inference is that in that time frame, they may have faced more hardship. If you're the cause of the hardship, you're still going to rack up negative karma.
Hinduism also has a concept called "dharma" - and it is purposely left ambiguous because what is right or wrong is context dependent. Killing an animal for pleasure is very different from killing an animal in self defense. You are supposed to exercise judgment and assess how best to not harm other beings/earth. So going vegan is a good thing.
Overall, please get an actual Hindu scholar. Thanks.
@nuancedrenditionsWhat do you think about the other 5 schools of Hinduism apart from Vedanta Hinduism?
@nuancedrenditions Oh,they are different branches of Hinduism with different beliefs. Samkhya for example believe there are two fundamental substances: Purusha (Conciousness) and Prakriti (matter,thoughts,feelings,etc.).
Both are eternal so it is atheist school of thought.
Hi guys, this is the perspective of someone who does actively believe in Sanatan Dharma which has been grossly overgeneralised as hindu. Hindu comes from Sindhu from the tribe of people who lived near the Indus valley and hence is not an accurate representation at all of the faith. In fact it is a philosophy that encourages critical thinking while also focusing on the self. As far as hell is concerned, a point that hasn't been made clear up till this point is hell in sanatan dharma is never eternal. It is proportionate to the sin you perform and the determinants of whether you have done sin is relative to your dharma as stated above. Dharma is subjective upon each individual as we have different responsibilities but in general it sums up to righteousness. Even an atheist can potentially have a better chance at escaping hell than a theist so long as their moral compass and responsibilities are achieved. As for the Garud Purana that I see you have been discussing, it's is VERY IMPORTANT to recognise that the purans aren't supposed to be taken literally like a Bible or Quran is. Our faith is based in philosophy and hence by extension a lot of the passages you'll see are consistent in that they are extended metaphors. If you want a more direct answer to your questions then the Gita is the closest but I'd be careful to look at one puran and make a statement that 'hindus' believe in X or Y. But I'd be happy to reply to any questions so just tag me in the reply below and hopefully YT sends me the notification.
Timestamps!
0:00 - Intro
0:39 - Christian Hell (w/ Dr. Ehrman)
11:30 - Is Drew going to hell in Christianity?
12:03 - Hindu/Buddhist Hell (w/ Dr. Mikles)
25:38 - Is Drew going to hell in Hinduism/Buddism?
27:16 - Islamic Hell (w/ Let's Talk Religion)
39:10 - Is Drew going to hell in Islam?
39:44 - Jewish Hell (w/ Dr. Sledge)
48:40 - Is Drew going to hell in Judaism?
You are a hero
You are going to none of these hells god bless you
Yes
Your a god
@@joshwhite5730 LMAOO facts though
When I was five, my parents enrolled me into Cat Steven's funded Islamic School in London and one memory that sticks with me is the Islamic studies teacher teaching us about hell and how if we weren't 'good Muslims' and didn't do as we were told that we would go to hell. One punishment that was burned into my brain was the one where the angels would hold you down onto a boulder and would use a rock to smack your head into pieces. They would then put your head back together only to do it over and over again. I was in shock and watched all the other little five year old scream and cry. Indoctrination at its finest.
The 72 virgins are duo-decans, making the total to be 360 with 5 days thrown into the mix. These same 72 were helpers of Seth who sealed Osiris/Noah in his arc.
I'm pretty sure that's a punishment of the grave and not hell - muslim
@@blaayyse Yep it is Of the grave
I heard the same thing except instead of being tied down and smacked by a rock, I was told that everything will be dark and really really really hot. The heat will burn you to a crisp, then you will be formed again and the process will repeat for eternity. All very graphic images for children to think about. Especially me since I had a really creative and overactive imagination. So yeah, when you hear that coming from the mouths of the adults that are supposed to keep you safe, let's just say baby me was scarred, cried, became nauseous, and as young as I was, only thought those dark thoughts for MONTHS. Literally MONTHS.
That was something children should NOT need to hear. Even if it's in religion. you're definitely right. If religious people were to tell their children about hell, they should do it when their minds have matured so that this stuff doesn't numb a child's brains.
as a muslim i gotta say i really feel bad for ex-muslims cuz most of the time they were just treated poorly by the people around them
Being raised Catholic giving up on the notion of eternal torment in hell was the hardest thing I had to come to terms with. I give Jews a lot of credit for not having a notion of hell as a way to maintain control. This was a fun trek through the various notions of hell, a great Christmas present.
Hell fire and heat is overrated, would be too effective for me I'd die in hell itself, petitions for hell to be cold or cozy
also, one thing that I wanted to comment as a person raised Catholic is that knowing catholicism and rejecting it as a religion is a quickest way to hell (it's a dogma); so according to Catholicism if you are atheist, Baptist or Jewish that never knew catholicism, you may go to heaven; if you are catholic and covert out of it to judaism or go atheist (not sure about other types of christianity, but I think it may apply as well), then BURN IN HELL;
If I am honest though, I was never taught about this eternal torment thing as a catholic; I was told that we don't know - hell may be torture, but it also may be eternity in absence of god (I am born and raised in Poland if that makes any difference); I feel now that I have been given some progressive version of christianity, wthout scaremongering; for me leaving religion was difficult, because I felt like I was part of something bigger before and then I wasn't and it was difficult to reconcile; but I see how many protestants represent catholicism and it's very different from the church I know; it sometimes puts me in uncomfortable position of wanting to defend something I don't believe in;
@@Noob-gb6bn Have hell be just below room temperature, humid, and foggy. That'll drive anyone bananas.
I was raised as Catholic, and decided to exit the religion right before Confirmation (I went to the Confirmation school).
but I remember one of Catholic priests in my local church told me that hell was separation from god.
@@jogighopa I also have this need to defend what I don't believe. Mostly because if you're going to mock at least mock it correctly. The weirdest mockery is the forbiddance of eating pork, shellfish, and mixed cloths. Cause they're unintentionally mocking Jewish people more since they actually practice that section of the bible. I get their point is pointing out hypocrisy and inconsistent rule applications in Christianity but come on. You could have mentioned circumcision not being required for the gentile converts and I'd feel less awkward.
They say that if you managed to go to Hell in every religion, you unlock the “True Hell”, an amalgamation of all religious depictions of hell, and the King of that True Hell gives up his crown to you as dictated by the crown-bearing passage of True Hell. Now you have to hope nobody else ever manages to go to Hell in every religion, or you’ll also have to pass the crown to them and face your punishment.
From where do you qyueer creatures get the queer idea that hell is somewhere to which you can go?
Ultra Hell.
Rare achievement (0.002% of players unlocked)
@@icarusgaming6269Baldur’s Gate is the first thing coming to my mind when I think about playing through the dynamics of this scenario
hell ya im getting that achievement no matter what
I like the idea that not knowing about Islam or Judaism gives you a degree of protection from their hells. Partially because it seems more considerate, but also because it reminds me of Terry Pratchett's idea that people only went to hell if they believed they deserved it, 'which is why it is important to shoot missionaries on sight'.
Well, that took a dark turn.
@@shizzyorleone09 facts lmao
@@shizzyorleone09 Yep, very Terry Pratchett. Rest in peace, and Noli Timere Messorem.
That's one of the lines that I remember, too! Mostly when I'm reading the last third of 'Jane Eyre' . You know, the bit with her cousin St. John.
I find it interesting that one of Sir Terry's 'accomplices', Neil Gaiman, has this much more frightening version of hell were we are caught up in our own regrets, and forced to repeat them over and over again. No devils and demons and angels of the devil, just we ourselves.
I find it much more disquieting than the whole "eternal lake of fire" thing.
I was never baptized into the Christian church despite a family history of catholicism and I was big mad when Benedict abolished limbo - I was sure I would get to go to the Medium Place if the Catholics were right since I never got baptized and technically never had a chance to be an apostate, I'm just an old fashioned heathen.
I am Hindu and in my language from where I'm from I've rarely ever heard people say "go to hell" but rather " you'll face the consequences of your karma (deeds) (karma bhogana)" I think most Hindus in general aren't really concerned with heaven and hell but rather next life lol We all know no one ain't getting moksha XD
Yeah...
It's like we have accepted that our journey is going to be a loooooong one
So we can only try to make it better by doing good karma ☺️
Good luck trying for moksh is one life , whichever it may be
The chances of moksh are scary low 😅
That sounds so much better!
Also the same in Buddhism. The "you'll go to hell" is mostly used only on children.
yeah There's also this theory in Hinduism that talks about how a soul travels from body to body of all species.
The potential prospect of constantly being reborn maybe as a fly in a company that produces flyswatters sounds quite similar to Christian hell to me 😁
"Depending on who you ask" is entirely accurate. Back in the old days of Catholic school I was told that not believing and not being baptised would not send you to hell, because even if you sinned, it was because you didn't know better, and would be sent to limbo. If you believed and were baptised, dying with mild sins would send you to purgatory, kinda like a hell lite, and where you could purge your soul and get in heaven eventually. If you died with mortal sins, you went to hell, unless you repented on your death bed and were administered the last rites.
Yeah this is pretty much the common Catholic answer, which is quite different from the common Evangelical one
Hmm.. Pretty reasonable
Very Jewish
This is still the same catholic belief today.
That's just what Dante wrote
GETTING TO HELL IN EVERY RELIGION ANY% SPEEDRUN!
I like it when people with different beliefs can discuss things peacefully without disrespecting each other. Thanks for this video.
Sadly it seems very rare, but it's beautiful to see
@@somedude9383 The sad thing is, it's not hard in theory. But it requires both groups to have a basic understanding of what's considered disrespectful. Like, for example, to have a discussion (not a debate, a discussion) between two religions both have to accept that they can not and should not try to talk the other into their religion, unless it's the whole topic they also shouldn't unprompted tell the other they'd go to hell in their religion. (this can also be applied to atheist in that they shouldn't be talking people out of their religion during a discussion like this or telling them thier so heaven and they've just wasted their life)
In theory that is the easiest thing to understand ever. It's basic respect. However lots of people believe they've failed their religion if they don't try to convince the other person, so they then offend the other person and start an argument. I wish everyone could just not do that. It'd be so much easier.
@@babycakelingscouldn't have said it better myself. Every time I scroll down a thread of religious discourse it instantly divulges into mockery. I can't help but feel a considerable amount of conversion attempts are rooted in hostility and insincerity. I imagine it goes for all religions instead of it being restricted to one but I remember when asking and inquiring Christians about their beliefs as I was interested (I was an athiest at the time and was interested in monotheism), a majority of the responses would include ignoring, answering their own questions or blatantly insulting. Never would I have been given a satisfactory answer. At best I could hope for was a "have faith".
About a year later I converted to another religion and since when a conversation would arise where I would have my made my religion known only then had people try to deter me from it and engage in conversation.
This isn't to target Christians specifically despite my disproportionately categorising experience but to serve my experience as a reminder on how not to conduct ourselves. We represent our beliefs. Lets represent them sincerely.
@@DamienLance to be honest it’s not that it’s a Christian issue, it’s a privilege issue. Christians are just often very privileged.
People who come from a country or culture where they are minority I’ve found are generally way better at polite debating and are willing to talk over religion without forcing it on you. Which is a big part of why I think Jews are so polite (ignoring how their religion is literally structured to not be invasive of other people that is, obviously there’s many reasons their so great in that regard, but I do think being a minority is part of that). People who are used to being the majority on the other hand are forceful about it and don’t consider themselves rude when they disrespect others because that’s normal to them.
Muslim people from countries where that’s the norm are often just as bad as Christians, we just don’t run into them as often because we (making an assumption about you here, apologies) are English speakers. But also Christians are particularly bad because they have a culture centered around how their the victim even in countries where they are the majority while also they view themselves as better then everyone else. They discourage questioning and ultimately try to kick out anyone who tries to do things differently. No individual Christian should ultimately be blamed for that of course, there are so many lovely Christians I’ve met too. But the fact that culture is there is an issue in itself. I think it’s just about finding a way to change that culture without devaluing the actual religious beliefs, that’s just hard to do when the people themselves don’t want any change.
To have a respectful conversation about religion, there is one necessary thing: Make everyone understand that God is not real, and that the concept of heaven or hell is laughable.
These Hells all have one thing in common: the punishments do not fit the crimes. It's just people trying to imagine the worst punishment they can think of and then deciding that is what hell is like. Hell is a man-made idea; it's not real.
As with all aspects of religion
Even if you're a nazi?
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 yes. Because the crimes are not infinite
Tartours in greak mythology does there ironic punishments. Guy who tied escaping death forced to push a rock up a hill that roles down and push it back up because you can't escape death just delay it.
@Talking Joseph So when you kill somebody they're not dead forever?
Going to hell on accident due to your actions in life: ❌
Going to hell on purpose so you can spend your afterlife eviscerating the hordes of hell: 👌
Slayer?
*_heavy metal music starts to play_*
This is actually something that happens according to some Buddhist traditions! According to the Nyingma Tibetan Buddhist tradition, Guru Padmasambhava went to the land of the rakshasas (or demon cannibals) at the time of his death in order to convert them to Buddhism and turn their realm into a pure abode. He now resides in that realm called "The Copper Colored Mountain."
@@TheForeignersNetwork 💀 Doomguy is real! Without the violent of course...
Going to hell because parents won't be there to nag / interrupt your every stupid life choice👌
"It depends on who you ask," and what year it is, like I always say. That is what we call a catch-all answer. If the "truth" "depends on who you ask," then nobody knows the truth.
It’s almost like the rules are made up or some shit
“Are you being suspended by something if you’re a bad boy?”
- Drew, 2022
Somebody's into Cognitive Behavioral Therapy...
"It's 4pm, time to burn out your bad Karma in the Dick Flattening Naraka!"
😳
@@41-Haiku cbt lol?
@@sarahmchugh4169cock and ball torture, a wikipedia page
I gotta say, the timing of this video is pristine. Just in time for Christmas: "How to go to hell, in multiple religions." Love it.
The amount of time that we spend in Hell will depend upon which calendar you use. A common calendar has us spending seven months in Heaven and five months in Hell. The seven months of Heaven begins at the spring equinox and the five months of Hell brings us back to the spring equinox. Heaven and Hell is the 12 months of the year. A good description of Hell is found in Revelation 9. The leader of Hell (winter) is the Scorpio constellation which is associated with the scorpion/locust/fly. Scorpio is also the sign of the genitals and “oil.” Dung/feces is also associated with winter as this is the period when dung piles were constructed. The dung would be spread on the fields prior to the planting season.
The five months of "Hell" is the period that Osiris spent sailing the celestial seas in his casket. These five months is also the 150 days the waters prevail in the Noah myth. This same five months is the five sons of Shem (Greek Hades/Latin Pluto/Hindu Magog).
@@harveywabbit9541What is Hindu Magog ?
@@srikrishna2561
Maha Bhaga, a type of Vishnu and the Hebrew Shem (Pluto).
My father always said, ‘if you’re going to do something, do it well!’
Now I can finally do hell well! Thank you!
what
@@swrust3791 you'll see a lot of such people nowadays, unfortunately.
Do all those things you'll surely find a place in at least one of them 😜😜😜😜
These people are misguided
Les gooo!😂
Re: judaism, at least from the perspective of an insider, hell and the afterlife in general is very rarely talked about. If you ask a well-informed scholar he’ll of course know of the more obscure mysticism, but having gone to hebrew school for many years and practiced my whole life, it was never talked about once. We just don’t focus on the afterlife much. I only learned the term Gehanna from this video, as a matter of fact. There is some obscure lore and mysticism about it but it’s just not a focus the way it is in christianity (and other religions afaik?). So by asking about it directly you might believe it’s a bigger deal than it really is to most of us.
Either way love the channel and great work!
edit: Also as a non-orthodox jew who occasionally eats cheeseburgers I’m ready for my stint in Gehanna and probably an eternity in every other religion’s hell :P
I first learnt, as a university student, about all the different options for afterlife when someone asked me about it. They were Christian, trying to somehow get me to convert. So I did some research, and found that there are so many different ideas, but not many people care except as a fun debate amongst academically minded people.
I remember first hearing about Christian hell and really wondering why it was so bad to have just been human during your life.
I don't believe in any afterlife, but I do like to think that people who practiced lovingkindness during life, will get a quick dip in gehenah, and be out in time for shabbat.
Queer term "after"_life" what given that only one thing comes " *after*" life, namely the complete, absolut final and permanent cessation of *all* experiencing(for want of an experiencing apparatus) call *that* what you will.
"After or post, life comes death which carries with it as an idea that all life or experiencing has stopped-generally for want of an experiencing apparatues, thus *After* experiencing comes not experiencing anything-it being axiomatic that it is impossible to experience not experiencing anything. After experiencing comes not-experiencing anything, thus the "Afterlife quite appart from being an oxymoron is simple gibberish.
The fact of the matter is that for obvious reasons you creatures simply cannot imagine not experiencing anything thus not experiencing anything is that species of impossibility that is conceptual impossibility, but you creatures have had you associative/dreaming apparatuses filled with other people's fantasies that can *only* be fantasies because *Either* death and dead * mean *No_After* *Or* they mean nothing. Afterlife is a gibberish term like the over-under, or up-down
OMG THIS WORKED!! Currently in hell right now because of these amazing instructions! Thanks!!
Say hi to George Bush for me when he gets there
Damn they have wifi there now?
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic Yep! It's actually pretty good.
@@sh4rky466 better then Australian internet?
@@entoxiclair_ Most definitely.
that moment when you activly try to commit every sin in every religion so all the gods start fighting over you to determin who has the right to trow you into their version of hell preventing you from actually being sentenced.
Good point.
Not me planning to create a list before even clicking the video.
In Hinduism and Buddhism, a person himself sways in hell due to his bad deeds.
Anyway main goal of both of them is to attain Nirvana, heaven hell don't matter.
Then you end up in a literal void of nothing like Jack'O Lantern in the original story until they decide a custom hell for you agreed by all the goods.
@@Nowe971 ok that sound bad but there are not much worse places then eternal hell at some point of intensity all pain is basically the same and all versions of hell almost always are forever so i imagine i would go insane and get numb to the pain eventually no matter the version even if custom. there are actually experiments of people being in perfectly white or black rooms with no stimulation like a void and most people cant handle more than 3 days. so probably insanity and then just being unconsiously tortured would be the outcome. there are defenitly ways those gods could force me to stay sane but that probably involves lowering the pain or erasing some part of the pain from my memory to keep me sane but that would defeat the purpose of the torture. there is pobably no way of over-/under-stimulating a human mind/neural network without breaking it pretty fast and any major alteration to my consiousness would probably mean it would not be me anymore. soooo... the concept of hell in general is flawed since it would pretty much break anyone before the infinte torure is done.
There’s something really healing about the way this video is framed, like my whole life there have been people trying to use fear of hell to control my mind and body; just taking the fear out of the conversation is really nice. Rigorous, unserious discussions are kinda healing.
❤❤
You might find the Jewish theological tradition/style particularly healing and fun!
There are soooOooo many conversations about nonsense in the Talmud solely for the sake of reaching further understanding through discussion
Reaching understanding through shameless discussion is, broadly speaking, the Jewish way. That’s why we’re so famous for arguing and disagreeing with each other.
It’s not supposed to be fun and healing, you are supposed to fear hell, the fear of hell is what will turn you into morality and into God
@@ambamsrathegiant7795so god is practically forcing you to believe through fear of eternal damnation? that does not sound very all loving
@@ambamsrathegiant7795nah didn't work. Just makes me wonder about the mental stability of people who believe this shite
@@tobpthat’s literally the truth. hell is death and why tf would you not want ppl to tell you that? bc it hurts ur feelings lmao? it’s not being sugarcoated and ur complaining abt that…
Me, as a woman- I’m playing this game on easy mode 😭
He forgot to mention big mo said hell is full of women
thats why the governments are taking away your rights
@@kreed3494there will be more men in hell than women in Islam if you actually knew shit you’d know that
@@kreed3494 "big mo" yeah such respect
The fact you're saying this shows you know nothing about religion unfortunately.... :(
I'd love if you did a follow up on this with some of the more minor religions! I love hearing Ocean Keltoi and others in Neopagan circles discussing what we know about the old faiths' afterlives and how the perception's been warped by pervasive christianity.. and we can rack up even more hell-adjacent afterlives to go to!
I’d love to do this! Ocean is awesome, and I’d really enjoy speaking to Jackson Crawford too
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic It could also be cool to hear the Zoroastrian concept of afterlife and hell, given that it is the primary inspiration for a lot of post exile ideas, and thus Christian and Islamic thoughts on the subject (or so I've been told)
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic hey Drew you should do a video on animism, the foundation of religion. Maybe you can have religion for breakfast on to discuss it
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic and do more research yourself on animism
He's not even done with the "major" religions, you know.
"depends on who you ask" I think is the best, and most overlooked, answer to just about any religious question. People tend to make sweeping generalizations of "oh Christians believe this, Muslims believe this, Buddhists believe this" but religion is a lot more complicated than that. Within religions you can have anywhere from dozens to thousands of sects, all with varying beliefs on different issues. But even then, that also misrepresents. The official standpoint of, say for example, the Roman Catholic church, does not necessarily apply to all people who identify as Roman-Catholics, everyone has their own unique views. Now obviously, you can only cover so much in a limited amount of time, which is why people devote their lives to studying religious topics, but you do have to be careful not to generalize to the point where you are lumping hundreds of millions or even billions of people into the same category. That only leads to further division and misunderstanding.
👏👏 Very true
One slight correction, really not very important, is that when you speak about not worshipping the Muslim God only the Christian God, they are both the same. The same God who is worshipped by all Abrahamic religions. Now in terms of the point, it doesn't make a difference as that would still be considered turning away from God, which as was discussed is one of the ways you can go to hell according to many Muslims.
I have a bit of a problem with people saying "Buddhists believe this" as it would be similar to saying "Abrahamists believe this" without specifying which branch you're talking about, is it christian, muslim or judaism? Who knows? The lady did mention towards the end that she mostly studied tibetan and chinese buddhism however.
So true. I don't know nearly as much about other religions, but the word "Christianity" encompasses almost any belief you can think of. Perhaps not so surprising when the Bible is so full of ambiguities and contradictions. Even the idea common among non-believers that "Jesus was a good man who preached peace and love" is debatable.
@@captaincatchy I would assume that ambiguity is common among many religions, partly as a result of them spreading. Most religions that spread far beyond their origin are able to do so by adapting to the people they are trying to convert. As for the Christian bible, an important thing to remember is that it wasn’t all written by the same person or even at the same time, as many other religious texts are from my understanding. A lot of it comes from oral tradition that was passed down for generations and generations before ever being written down, and as such not all the details remain constant. Translation also becomes a problem with every religious text, as multiple layers of translation can warp meanings.
I would love to see a tutorial for speedrunning every hell. In other words, what's the most efficient combination of things I can do to maximize the number of hells I enter? Maybe adultery only gets me in to 50% of hells but murder is 80% and murder + a hamburger is 92%. By finding the most efficient combination, I bet we could get an all access VIP hell tour pass in a matter of seconds with just a few simple actions and statements!
@mel yeah cause he was definitely gonna try this for real
Just be gay.
@@dm7626 doesn't work for Buddhism
Beef + pork hits hard!
@@lordicarus8807 bacon cheeseburger. Got it!
thanks man, I've been looking everywhere for tutorials. This is the first one that has been helpfull.
Being a Buddhist from India, i dont think i was ever told abt heaven or hell or whether it even matters. No such thing.. i was pretty much told karma matters, both in thoughts and action. The only other thing i was taught was that it is important to practice Sadhana.. to meditate.. by that I don't mean introspection or self analysis etc.. what i mean is to have a breath practice to get the body and breath in sync.. to try for a meditative state. The goal eventual is to attain Nirvana.. heaven, hell, actions thoughts are all distractions on the path🙏🤷 happy new yr folks!
Respect 👏
Yeah this is what I learned in Zen and Pure Land. Obviously pure land has an emphasis on making it to the pure land if you don't attain Nirvana. But the godly realms and the hell realms are both bad for trying to attain Nirvana, and one shouldn't want to go to either.
Theravada Buddhism clearly states about heavens and hells in its own sense , not in the sense of Christianity , hinduism etc.
Well what you do is pranayam a hindu yoga thing
So you’re only religious bc you were told so
Dr Sledge's description of the "roaming ghosts" who are rejected by both heaven and hell brings to my mind the origin of Halloween's Jack O'Lantern:
'People have been making jack-o’-lanterns at Halloween for centuries. The practice originated from an Irish myth about a man nicknamed “Stingy Jack.” According to the story, Stingy Jack invited the Devil to have a drink with him. True to his name, Stingy Jack didn’t want to pay for his drink, so he convinced the Devil to turn himself into a coin that Jack could use to buy their drinks. Once the Devil did so, Jack decided to keep the money and put it into his pocket next to a silver cross, which prevented the Devil from changing back into his original form.
'Jack eventually freed the Devil, under the condition that he would not bother Jack for one year and that, should Jack die, he would not claim his soul. The next year, Jack again tricked the Devil into climbing into a tree to pick a piece of fruit. While he was up in the tree, Jack carved a sign of the cross into the tree’s bark so that the Devil could not come down until the Devil promised Jack not to bother him for ten more years.
'Soon after, Jack died. As the legend goes, God would not allow such an unsavory figure into heaven. The Devil, upset by the trick Jack had played on him and keeping his word not to claim his soul, would not allow Jack into hell. He sent Jack off into the dark night with only a burning coal to light his way. Jack put the coal into a carved-out turnip and has been roaming the Earth with ever since. The Irish began to refer to this ghostly figure as “Jack of the Lantern,” and then, simply “Jack O’Lantern.”
'In Ireland and Scotland, people began to make their own versions of Jack’s lanterns by carving scary faces into turnips or potatoes and placing them into windows or near doors to frighten away Stingy Jack and other wandering evil spirits. In England, large beets are used. Immigrants from these countries brought the jack-o’-lantern tradition with them when they came to the United States. They soon found that pumpkins, a fruit native to America, make perfect jack-o’-lanterns.'
-- www.history.com/news/history-of-the-jack-o-lantern-irish-origins
really interesting thanks
Huh
Never knew that Jack O'Lantern was an Irish thing! 😮
This is really helpful for the people trying to speedrun the bad ending
Keep up the good work!
I'm gonna get the world record >:
@@insertsomethingoriginal and I will get the underworld record
this speedrun about to be devious
I love how Dr Mikles has a favorite hell. She seems so fun to talk to.
She is! I hope I can have her on again because she was so passionate about the subject and made the interview super fun
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic If she's up to it, definitely get her back. It was such a joy to watch her, and I assume it's even more to talk to her directly.
tag yourself. i'm Saṃghāta, the Crushing Naraka, in which beings are bonked with large rocks.
I loved how she described the invention of the chain letter alongside that with the sutra-copying clubs
-Matter didn’t create anti matter
-Anti matter didn’t create matter
(Both of them were present at the time of big bang)
-Both of them didn’t create themselves.
-Both of them came from an unimaginable source, that unimaginable source created matter and antimatter (everything) thats why it is known as “the creator” of everything.
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- that unimaginable source/creator has created sin and virtue which are opposite to each other,
- “logic” confirmed that every action has its own reaction, the reaction of sin is different than the reaction of virtue,
- the creator has created prophets to let us know about each and every detail of sin and virtue, also about their reactions,
Thank you :)
I was pretty much under the impression that going to hell in any religion that HAS a hell to go to, is simply a matter of not believing in their religion. There are other ways as well, but that would be the simplest way I would think.
Extortion. Keeps the coffers full...
It actually depends on the religion. They sorta skim over this a bit in the video (unfortunately), but typically in both Hinduism and Buddhism, for example, simply not believing will not by itself result in you going to hell. They believe that everybody's fate after death is determined solely by their actions in life (regardless of why they did them), so if you do things to accumulate enough bad karma, you will end up in hell, but if you live your life in a good way in which you do not do those things, even if you have never even heard of that religion, or actively disbelieve it, you still won't go to hell, because your _actions_ didn't actually warrant it.
Yeah, there are Presbyterian denominations, for example, that only care about what you do, and less about what you believe
for most religions, it's not about whether you're a good person, but whether you're gullible enough.
I mean, Tartarus is often seen as the Greek Hell, and it isn't some place you go just for not believing.
If you were an evil person in life you are sent to Tartarus. According to Plato, if you are so innately evil that you are "incurable" then you are permanently sent to Tartarus, otherwise, if you have done evil but are redeemable, you can get out once a year when you finally show true remorse and guilt.
If you believe there is not such a thing as an irredeemable evil person, then no person has been sent to Tartarus permanently.
The art of Buddhist and Hindu hells is really interesting. Jainism also has their own hells, which are practically impossible to avoid going to.
Yeah! And they are temporary and kind of like weird rehab centres for souls
@@meenapatel1648 Really reminds me of The Good Place
@@meenapatel1648 Buddhist Hell is like a prison. You stay there until all your bad karma is gone. After that you get reincarnated but it may not be a great life
@@EvelynSucksAtLife damn... That's deep
@@EvelynSucksAtLife thats not even that bad
Wonderful explanation by Dr. Mikles!! However, she has made several inaccuracies in the section on Hinduism.
Firstly, the caste system is not an inherent part of the religion but rather a cultural phenomenon. Hindu texts do not endorse untouchability or the caste system. Some Purāṇas that seem to support the caste system were actually modified by Christian missionaries during the colonial period and earlier by Buddhist missionaries (The original texts were burnt and no longer exist). The original verses do not mention a caste system but refer to a "Varna" system, which is based on occupation, not birth (i.e. any person can change their occupation if they wish to and is permitted by their family member).
Another incorrect statement is made at 15:55: "A Dalit/untouchable touching a Brahmin results in bad karma." This is completely false. Many well-known Brahmins were born into Dalit families and often lived with and treated such families with respect. For instance, the revered sage Vyasa was born to a Dalit woman, and Sushruta, who was also a Brahmin, performed surgeries on people of lower castes and lived among them. There are many stories in Hinduism showing inter-caste marriages between the higher and lower caste. For example in Mahabharata, the great-grandmother of the Pandavas, was a Fisherwoman(lower caste) married to King Shantanu (upper caste). She was also the mother of Ved Vyasa ( A Brahmin and the author of the Mahabharat).
Untouchability in India developed much later, largely as a result of the unhygienic living conditions in slums and lower-caste communities, and differences in language and culture. Many lower-caste families were not fluent in Sanskrit and were therefore prohibited from reciting the Vedas and other religious texts, as these texts were not available in written form in the early stages but were memorized and transmitted orally. The term "Dalit" gained prominence in the 19th and 20th centuries and was used to describe marginalized communities who were outside the traditional Hindu caste hierarchy (i.e. non Hindus), often referred to as "untouchables."
It is not a religious word or in anyway affiliated with Hinduism...
Also as a Hindu from a deeply religious family, I was taught this line about hell from a young age: "Kam, Krodh, Mad, Lobh Sab Nath Narak Ke Panth." It translates to "Lust, anger, pride, and greed are all paths to hell." This line was spoken by Sant Kabir, who was born into a lower-caste family and is considered one of the most important spiritual teachers in Hinduism, Islam (in India), and Sikhism.
I wish the section on Hinduism/Buddhism was longer, especially with how the religions have changed over the past few milennia. They're very interesting, and I hope you can get more scholars to discuss it.
You are a pirate you are going to hell
Especially non-white people.
So I grew up in an extremely religious household. The fear of going to hell was very real to me for a long time. Over the years I started questioning things and noticed many inconsistencies with not just the Bible, but also with the people who claimed to believe in the Bible. I realize that some people need something to believe in because most of it comes from a fear of the unknown. My mother wholeheartedly believes in God and the words of the Bible. I, unfortunately, do not. I've realized that I'm much too skeptical to believe ANYTHING on faith, and because of that, I kind of envy people who can believe things like that. Life is a lot simpler when you think you know what happens after you die and I'm happy it brings my mother peace.
How did you escape the torment of constantly being afraid of going to hell because I actually am dealing with that right now I finally got done with Christianity oh I hate even saying that word and I I still have this fear that if I do something wrong or what the book of their stuff calls wrong am I going to end up going to hell how did you get over that fear?
I've had a lot of time to think about things. To make a long story short I realized that there's no point in worrying about something that we don't have any idea about. I've realized that I need to focus on the present and make my own destiny
@@doomsdayking4843 awesome thank you hopefully i can start realizing this soon
@@jesseberry2046 I'm very sorry about that. Yeshua of Nazareth would probably be mad about people tormenting others to believe in God. I do alot of deep meditation. 20 times I have heard God's voice. 11.17.2015..Eve Beach, Waikiki evening. I couldn't find a book reading so I sat under the stars alone. I asked God, where do people go after they die. He answered, everybody goes to the same place. I asked God His name. He answered, Fundamentally E. I answered, energy of consciousness that suffuses everything. Every proton, neutron, electron, quark, spark of light and black hole. He answered, don't forget the science. He said a few more things but right now the focus is on the afterlife. My personal feeling is that there is enough pain and hell on Earth. You seem like a wonderful heartfelt gift. I'll teach you some Aramaic. Schlama means peace. Malkuth means heaven. Hubba means love. 3 things you know in your Soul. P.S. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem 5 decades ago. I can relate to how you feel.
Doomsday King,, I can relate. It is hard to take things on faith. I came to believe in God by what He empirically showed me. I used to mock people who thanked God. Then I had an unexpected spiritual experience 8.4.2015. Alot of mystical things have happened since. One of the wisest things God said..when you notice something, there is a reason. This also applies to you. It is wise to question and learn. One thing I can say is you seem like a wonderful person and a wonderful son. (My son is 22.) A gift from God aka bigger consciousness. Since I love Science fiction .I sometimes call God Klaatu One..from the film The Day the Earth stood still.
Ironically my Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. I even worked on the editing of Jacob's Ladder with Tim Robbins. It's a very existential film. I also recommend Proffessor Joseph Campbell..Hero's Journey interviews with Bill Moyer. Man and Myth. Universal symbols and truths. Lchaim
My favorite part about being a Norse Pagan is that there is no belief or threat of eternal damnation. Basically just be a decent person, be a good host, give a gift after receiving one, and take care of others.
Late edit: There is a place called "Nastrond" where the worst of the worst go but not much else is known.
Sounds amazing
Do you guys believe in a god?
@@bazinkaa Why would you even ask that?
@@bazinkaa Thanks for asking! Yes and no. Some do, some dont and its all equally valid as there's no official Bible or rule book. I personally live my life by the Havamal or "The Words of Odin" but I'm agnostic regarding the gods. It's a religion of what's best for you which is why I love it.
@@E.V.-il because I’m curious.
I think one of the fascinating things about Hinduism is that doesn't focus too much on descriptions of hell as much as the idea of falling from heaven to earth. The story Dr. Mikels tells is a fascinating one in that the heroes, the Pandavas, go to hell, along with Yudhisthira, but the latter also finds that the antagonists, the Kauravas, who are quite the vile bunch, in heaven (having died on the battlefield, they get a direct ticket to heaven). It was a weird concept to me, and I still don't fully understand it. I've been told the idea is that there is a different standard of behaviour for the good, and they can't be held to the same standards of Dharma as the evil. Even though all of this is factually nonsense, I just can't help loving those stories.
My parents keep telling me to do so. Thank you for giving me clear instructions!
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no they dont, stop trying to victimize yourself buddy
uhhhh
lmao
@@josepho3661 sir
So basically not only do you "suffer the mental anguish of being separated from God" but you ALSO, as Dr. Ehrman described it, get to imagine others' Instagram-versions of themselves in Heaven.
DEFINITELY the modern take on Hell. 👍🏼😂
God, the sun, leaves us (northern hemisphere) as the Lord God, who is a Sun and a Shield falls below the equinoxes into the southern hemisphere. At the next spring equinox, the Lord God, who is a sun and a shield will leave the southern hemisphere and enter the northern hemisphere. At this time we will say "God is with us."
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Oh my god you still troll this channel?
Get a life!
@@harveywabbit9541 I leave in the tropics, that's some sort of discrimination
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Yes! I have no bananas.
@@harveywabbit9541 You are bananas.
I love how objective these people are when discussing religion
If you condemn yourself to hell in 50 different religions, does that mean that 50 different demons have to fight for their claim to your soul?
Your soul would get split into 50. Sort of like horcruxes from Harry Potter if you've ever read/watched that.
I grew up an Evangelical and was taught about the horrors of Hell from a young age. I consider teaching kids that crap child abuse! It terrified me! I lived in fear of messing up and God sending me there. Even though I am an atheist now, there is still a small part of me that fears Hell. Yes, I was that indoctrinated! It is very hard to get over.
I totally agree. Moreover, I think kids should be kept away from religion until they are old enough to make a decision on what to believe. Parents or tutors shouldn't have the right to choose a religion for them.
I ended up with religious OCD that started when I was around 5 and I’m still kind of afraid to talk about my own beliefs. I feel silly because of it but there’s a part of me that’s worried that god will know that I’ve definitely made up my mind about not believing and he’ll kill me. When I was younger my mom taught me that that’s what happens. I’m extremely thankful that I’m able to get therapy.
@@Residentevil1.5 I also suffer from OCD and for years I would pray at the exact same time *every single day* . And if I forgot to pray I would start panicking because of the immense fear of God giving up on me and my family. Like damn.
even tho I've started questioning a LOT of stuff that's considered religious, im still afraid at the back of my head about shit like what if hell is real, what if god hates me because I don't pray 5 times a day, don't wear religion appropriate clothing. and the cherry on top: what would happen after I die? it's mostly the fear of the unknown tho.
Jesus loves you
Up to the Islam bit (and I've heard Christians make this similar statement)... If not knowing Islam gives you a free pass to heaven... but knowing about it and rejecting it sends you to hell.
Wouldn't the most moral thing to be to not talk about your religion, to let it die out? Then the most amount of people as possible end up in heaven.
Exactly. Which is why you DON’T go to heaven by being ignorant. Romans 1 says everyone has sufficient knowledge to NY l be condemned, they need more knowledge to be able to repent to God
Damn that just gave me a whole new perspective..and another argument to piss off some of my muslim friends 😂. I'm really curious as to what a muslim has to say (a counter) about what you said here bcz it sounds like a really solid argument.
Lol islam straight up copied Christianity like heck both have same beliefs of one god and having some grudge against idol worshiper both are barbaric and have done pretty cruel things in history.
@@cosmictreason2242 why make someone repent for something that isn’t and should never be a sin? The abrahamic god is an idiot
Not knowing islam doesnt give you free pass btw... they will be tested in the day of judgement
I love how you have all these ethical and philosophical discussions of how you get into Hell and it's nature in most religions, and then you get to Judaism and it's very bureaucratic and technical. "Hell is a washing machine, but you get vacations. But if you haven't applied for our services then you get a free pass."
It does seem that Judaism may be the way to go. I have an aunt who converted… can I use her as a reference? After all, she’s already in one place or the other.
So it’s better to not convert to Judaism hahaha
@@alinanymus6830 Honestly, this is why in my opinion, all post Christ Abrahamic traditions have developed in a way that ONLY by worship of their specific god can allow you into thier heaven. They prey on the natural fear of death to get people to convert.
@@tlpineapple1 I think so too. Most people are religious for two reasons: fear of hell and hope for heaven.
@@alinanymus6830 I think its impossible to narrow down anyones or even most peoples reason for belief or non-belief to two options.
The individual has a myriad of reasons for why they are religious/spiritual. Saying most people are religious because they fear hell or want heaven is as disingenuous as saying most athiests are so due to being angry at god or wanting to sin. Its an ingroup good outgroup bad bias that doesnt really help the sociological analysis of religion and spirituality. I think theres a massive difference between what the individual experiences, and what the institution prioritizes.
You have to feel sorry for anyone who has been told Hell is a real place its a form of mental abuse .
As an hindu i have never really cared as i have been vegetarian.
Apart from that even athiest are welcomed in here worship god or not doesn't matter just make sure to cover ur bad deeds bt doing good deeds to avoid hell which exist on earth u may born poor if u insult one in ur present life time ....
Yes. I agree with the other guy. It doesn't matter. What matters is to be a good person and to be kind to others.
Wow, you have no idea what mental abuse is.
"Worship me or ill endlessly torture you" sounds like free will to me
Free will doesnt mean you will get out with it
Exactly.
Abrahamic religions in a nutshell
frr😂😂i rather burn in hell👍😂
@@anushree8984 Same, heaven just sounds like a bunch of conservatives lol
Hyped to see the first speedrun
There is a Swedish comedian who said that as a child he realized the best way to stay out of Christian Hell. And that was - sin all your life and do what you want, and when you are close to death - say to god "I'm sorry, I repent".
For Muslims just go to mekka -in Saudi Arabia- do Hajj which basically gets rid of all your sins and maybe die defending your country for bonus points hhhh that's my plan at least
Actually that is what you are supposed to do. Otherwise Jesus's sacrifice would be wasted on you. Jesus's sacrifice is the licence for you to do what you want and then accept Jesus as saviour to get out of hell. Remember redemption is by grace alone, not deeds.
The problem is, you don't always know when you're gonna die.
What if final destination kind of stuff happens and it insta kill you without the time to react to anything let alone thinking about repenting
You could very well do that… assuming you have a true faith and a true repentance which would really suck if your at the end of your life. You would look at your life with basically only regret. And if you got to Heaven it would really suck tbh you’d have to answer for your sins straight to Jesus hm not fun. But you’d make it smh
Reminds me of an Emo Phillips joke. "When I was a kid I used to pray to every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me."
As someone who fell out of Faith after being raised by two Buddhist parents who each converted from a different kind of Christianity, I have been told by my extended family that I'm definitely going to. Hell, I've been told by my parents that I might have a hard time, and being queer and having tattoos doesn't help.
I love studying this stuff but f*** if I don't hope the authorities of the hereafter have a sense of humor.
you censoring fuck is cute lol
I did not know I needed this, oh well then can't wait for you to explain the extra detailed instructions that will be over six hours long.
I love how casual this is. It definitely lessened my fear of hell, as a new atheist.
@@dargon7pic or didn't happen
@@dargon7 there is plenty of basic reasoning against every religion but whatever
@@dargon7 respect others choices lol
@@dargon7 why do people say “I don’t wanna be one of those people but” and do literally exactly what one of those people would do ☠️☠️
@@dargon7hahhaha "miracles"
13:01 I never heard about that. The version of Mahabharata that I (and most Hindus) grew up with was that they (the Pandavas) tried to enter Heaven with their body by climbing up the Himalayas, a dog followed them up the snowy hill and after his brothers died, Yudhisthira was told to abandon the dog to go to heaven but he refused. It was revealed that the dog was a God in disguise and Yudhisthira got to go to heaven “saha sharir” (with his body).
Also, caste is Portuguese. Before British invasion and the caste census, that was purely profession based. After they left, it quickly became that way again. Jatis are much like Japanese clans, which weren't always birth based either.
I didn't look up Meenakshi Jain until after watching Ellie Dashwood's YT video “Are Elizabeth and Darcy In The Same Social Class?”
I'd love to see her sources and the actual Sanskrit texts they're derived from. I have a feeling it'll be interesting to read them with Sanskrit scholars. I wonder if they'll also go for “koti” meaning thousand instead of type.
16:20 Brahmins are simply people who CHOSE to live a life pursuing scholarly stuff. Spitting in a Brahmin's food is like tricking a vegetarian/vegan into eating meat.
J. Sai Deepak's work “India that is Bharat” is, as he puts it a glossary for other references. I won't tell you to believe him, cz he's a practicing Hindu and quite proud of it, but I'd implore you to look up other perspectives. Can't say how good it is, cz I haven't read it yet. He says some of the same things that were considered common knowledge in India, though.
Hindu hell is like the Greek Underworld. You're getting isekai'd, buddy. Just hope that it's as easy as anime makes it look.
your knowledge will definately get u into heaven hehe.. what a comment
@@saket6676 Don't believe in heaven. I'll take getting isekai'd into Bakarina. Even the Villainess get a happy ending.
100% agreed.
Finally someone said the difference between caste and jaati
Never was jaati caste, it was merely your profession
“Caste was just profession based." Next you're gonna tell me the Manusmriti was written by Vasco da Gama.
I spoke to a young theology student who was writing an entire book on this subject a few months ago. He was inspired by this video to write a detailed study on how each religion perceives hell and how cardinal sins differ depending on religion. I hope it gets published soon
I believe this fuels my anxiety and existential crisis so im going to watch every second of it! ^^
We are in the same boat my friend
we are all in this togeeeeether
This is me and I am this! Glad to join the club lol
having in existential crisis is dumb, pray to god, go to heaven, be happy my friend.
never been religious myself, but the other side of my family is catholic (we’re irish american), n I went to a jewish school for a good six or so years. I really appreciate how what I was taught there clearly wasn’t meant to scare me into behaving a certain way - I don’t think I was ever even told about hell. my experience with judaism is that the main tenant is just to not be an asshole, and that what you do while you’re alive matters a lot more than whatever afterlife there might be. in terms of religion-specific stuff, we learned more about historical events than scripture, and what I’ve gathered overtime is that a lot of people view the religion as more of a guideline? I’ve met plenty of jewish folks over the years who don’t believe in the old testament stories or even a god but feel like just existing as a community for so long and weathering hardships together has created something with human spirit alone that is just as profound and worth celebrating and having faith in. I guess that’s sort of where I land spiritually too - don’t believe in any physical god but I believe that we as humans, in being nice to one another and creating art and such, are god in a way
as for my catholic experience? yeah I’m going to hell. technically all you have to do is confess your sins to have them forgiven, but there’s some things I do I know are sin in catholicism that I’d never apologize for. like, if hell is real and I go there for being gay then at least I’ll be with my people and not somewhere where everything’s supposed to be perfect but everyone hates me. I’m willing to risk it
Agreed I’m a religious Jew but I really struggle with faith and tbh I don’t know how much I believe. But even though I’ve grown up pretty hardcore orthodox, hell just isn’t something talked about that much. We more focus on doing good now lol . But reading your life story btw was extremely fascinating.
THIS!
That's about the best summary of Judaism I have heard from a non-Jew. Thank you for paying attention, and not overlaying fear of the Christian G-d on everything you heard. Best wishes; may your soul find joy, if that's how it works, but I don't know, because I'm Jewish ...
I 100% agree with the comment that your explanation was spot on! Great description of more liberal/Reform Judaism. Thank you, you flatter us! 👏🏼
You pretty much have it. The essence of Judaism lies in what you do, not so much in what you believe. Right beliefs and all that are encouraged, not because something bad happens to you otherwise but because they lead to right actions. Buddhists will recognize this part, of course.
The afterlife is not stressed in Judaism, because we know very little about. Our texts barely mention it and what little they say, is very vague. Mind you, various thinkers down the centuries have worked out various solutions that fit what little we're told; some of these systems are incredibly intricate and very fully developed. But the open secret is this: they're all just theories and models and nobody really knows.... and nobody CAN really know.
We all agree that whatever it is, it is governed by Divine Justice and Divine Mercy, and together they form a fair result for all. It's the details and the mechanics that are up for grabs.
Hell doesn't figure in most of the Jewish models. It simply doesn't. There have only been a few splinter sects that really have a hell, as such. Many have something closer to Catholic Purgatory, a limited cleansing that might well be very unpleasant; the unpleasantness might consist of fully appreciating the harm you've caused along the way but on the plus side that's accompanied appreciating the good you've done along the way.
A final thought: Because we don't have damnation, we don't have what Christians call salvation. Nothing to be "saved" from, in that sense.
Yet there is something far more important to be "saved" from - and that's a world which isn't as good as it could be. And we know how to save ourselves from that world - - - by working to improve it. It's hard, and it has taken a long time so far, but I think it has mostly improved century after century - undoubtedly with a bunch of backslides too. But in the long view, it does get better.
And that's not just us working on it; everybody can work to make it better right here and right now. You are not obligated to finish the job, but neither can you shirk your load.
The guys that said “if you’re a Jew it’s easy.. just die” that made me laugh so hard idk why
That’s basically what I tell people when they’re upset that Jews are the “chosen” people… like that isn’t a positive thing 💀
Kinda racists
@@chingyiutang3480 he said it as an example dumbass, I doubt he meant it as "if you are Jewish you don't deserve life"
@@chingyiutang3480just pretend it's a jew criticizing another religion and you'll get over it❤
@@hakaishin918its messed up no matter who's saying it buddy
The "role reversal" card is such a stupid argument. Condem the action whether it's the group you're in or not
This is very helpful, I will try all of these methods and see which ones work!
I find it very disgusting how some people who created some of these traditions suggest that some people will go to one hell or another for acts of no fault of their own like disbelief, accidentally getting menstrual blood on somebody, and other similar things. How in the world anyone figures people should be tortured for honest mistakes is beyond me.
Disbelief isn't a mistake tho...
@@s0ne01 it isn't anyone's fault because they disbelieve something. Anyone who disbelieves something feels they have good reason that something is not true, and it is utterly absurd to punish somebody if they turn out to be wrong. Imagine all the nicest old little Christian Church ladies bathing in fire whose Heat is almost equivalent to the center of the Sun for violating some of the tenants in the religion of Islam if Islam turns out to be true. Now you tell me why those little ladies would deserve this just because they believed all other religions besides Christianity were false. Nobody deserves to be punished as though they made a mistake on purpose. This is what religions that teach punishment for Thought crimes suggests about everybody else. No faithful Muslim, Christian, hindu, Etc deserves to be punished at all in the hell depicted by another religion if any one of these religions turn out to be true.
@@brucecook502 i ain't gonna read alk that. If you choose not to belive something then it is the persons fault. Especially if given the oppertunity to learn about said thing.
@@s0ne01 i mean just because you know or have learned about a religion doesn't mean you _have_ to believe in it
@@ashmellow78 yh, but my point is that disbelief isn't a mistake. Its a choice.
Having grown up atheist, my fear of death sometimes has made me wish I had been religious. This video is a good reminder why I should wish for no such thing.
Indeed. It could be a lot worse. Lots of religious people become atheists but never shed the carnal fear of hell and end up with regular nightmares for their entire life of going to hell.
Dying on a rock all alone with no hope for immortality is bad enough without thinking you're also gonna get tortured eternally for being gay or somethin
Jesus loves you
My fear of death literally makes me wish I never existed tbh
@@foxphire3484 I mean that’s just pointless tho cuz not existing is guaranteeing what you fear
@@unit-0123 then you can't develope that fear if you don't exist
It's interesting to see some similarities between the different religions. In the Buddhist hell for women, they may be boiled in their own menstrual blood, and in Judaism, you may be at risk of being boiled in other bodily fluids. It's such a weird thing to have in common.
But what if in the buddhist hell the woman could never have her period due to health problems for example?
What better “”punishment”” for a omi-loving god 🤣
@@nicolesiol I think it was for making holy things impure, so the menstrual blood part of that was just one aspect, so like a man would also get bad karma if he made a monk/nun/offering/Buddha statue impure somehow according to that sutra
because it’s a gross thought?
It's weird from here too - that is not a universal Jewish tenet. It's a debated theory that resulted from a (highly respected committee) hashing out what might be hidden behind the Scriptures. "It's debated" is Jewish code for, "somebody I respect too much to argue with thought of this, but G-d never said it."
My personal stance as an atheist is: why would believing in god change your fate if you were a good person. Ones actions should be the driving force of salvation, not that there is an all powerful being above us.
Christians: Islam is so barbaric.
Me: What does it take to go to the christian hell?
Christians: Not believing in Jesus.
Yeah the Islamic god is technically less barbaric than the Christian god for this very reason. WTF?
@@jamescogswell9297 I’ve always wondered this but what exactly is god? And why do we have no pictures of him no presence of him no trace of him no our realm of earth. People get mad at atheists for not believing in god but how do we know he exist himself or herself
It is indeed barbaric and this is coming from an ex-muslim.
Both religions are barbaric and deeply oppressive. Only difference is rapists get punished in Islam
@@zegobot9674 God is an all-powerful being who created everything. There are no pictures because no one has seen his face. He has given evidence over time of His existence, and the rest is taken on faith, because of the evidence that can be found.
There’s a saying in my religion (Nichiren Shōshu Buddhism) that hell is a state of mind that you can fall into, of pure despair and anguish, but that you can always crawl out of it by doing good upon others and receiving good karma. I find that interpretation a lot easier to live with.
i’m the complete opposite i guess living in australia does that to you i love the rare times it’s freezing here
Really enjoyed listening to Natasha Mikles. She seems like a great teacher in her energy and so on! This video overall is just awesome!
except for her feminist bullshiting about Buddhism. Almost all hells are designed for men.
In Hinduism there is a scripture that explains hells in detail and what will happen if you do something wrong. It is in very detail, and when some one dies that story/what hell is described. So there family can do good deeds on behalf of the dead one THE SCRIPTURE IS CALLED ("GARUN PURAN") 13:11 she is telling correctly but shes missing some crucial facts. DISCLAIMER "This scripture is only readed by the saint when someone dies in the family"
I really like how your humor is getting more sophisticated.
Coming from a very religious family in Indonesia (the largest Muslim country in the world), I'm used to elderly people try to behave me by mentioning about heaven and hell as consequences of my act. I somehow never get scared of it to the point that it stops me to do bad thing ( I stop because I know I have to). But I truly believe that hell does exist and it's a place for scary things happen to sinners. I might also enter it since I've done lots of bad things throughout my life. But it makes me have a better relationship with Allah. Because I believe He's merciful, I'll ask His forgiveness whenever I slipped and made mistakes.
Good thinking brother/sister. Stay on the right path, read Quran, and pray often, not because of punishment but because you should love the maker of this universe and you.
We should really strive towards making all communication on the Internet to look like this. Based af
@@megamuslimchadWhy does people love's a God who will "punish" alot's of non-believers? Is it because God give them something called life spam? Isn't death is the meaning of life for human, according to God's mind?
mashallah
@@Mr_Schizo The reason why people love god is because god is merciful.
No one except the arrogants are burned for eternity. Not an atom size of injustice is done.
as a hindu I've been told that both hell and heaven coexist on earth and we all are in it already. some people are blessed so they are living in heaven and some are unfortunate because of poverty, toxic family, illness, depression, etc some people are living in hell. it's not some place outside earth that you travel after death
I’ve always said to myself
“why wait for death to find out if there is a heaven why can’t I make my own heaven on earth what if earth is all we have”
This is correct
This sounds rather calvinist to me. Like, those in power and wealth deserve so by gods own decree and if your life is hell on earth, it's your own sins to blame. Pretty lame attempt of the ruling class to solidify and justify the status quo as god-given.
@@rumpelstilzz you misunderstood bro. it's not all about money but about happiness. read my comment again 50 times and maybe you will understand some of it
Yes, we are already there. Heaven and Hell are not places we go after we die, but places we are at now that are dependent on our actions and how we affect the world.
Its very silly most people think of these as places you go after you die and that someone else is judging us.
Gotta do a hell speedrun
Road to Hell Any%
This video's title is such an effective hook. I saw the idea of just detailing how best to contradict the morals of specific groups as the perfect middle finger to those who attempt to enforce their religious beliefs on others, without necessarily proposing any of your own person beliefs. While the hilarity of this approach is what pulled me in, I'm enjoying the detailed history of the ideas religions present and I thank you for providing a platform to informed individuals.
Yes! I have been waiting for this video!
I tried contacting the Catholic Church and they refused to tell me how to "blaspheme", which according to the Catholic doctrine is the only "unforgivable sin".
The price of being an only child. A lot of younger siblings learn how to blaspheme pretty early on.
Alternate take:
The only thing left to do is throw everything you have at the wall and see what sticks.
@@41-Haiku - I actually asked that. Apparently "taking the Lord's name in vain" isn't what they mean when they say to blaspheme. It is something very specific, and they refused to tell me what it was.
It COULD mean making an oath by god and then breaking it, but don’t quote me on that, especially for Catholicism specifically
“‘Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.’ There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.”
CCC 1864
As a “religion nerd” myself, this is an awesome video and I had a great laugh when I saw the title pop up on my recommendations hahaha
In Hinduism, the importance does not lie in punishment in hell. The emphasis is on reincarnation, which gives one who did wrong another chance rather than simply punishing them. And I think that is a better approach.
If you don't remember previous lives, you can't "have another chance"
@@carloselfrancos7205 According to Hinduism, good values and morals is something every person is born with. However influences like lust, greed, anger, and laziness drive people to commit sin and we must break free from that to break free from the cycle of reincarnation. Also rebirths aren't only due to sin, but also due to karma or curses.
@@wnysjournal which doesn't contradict what I'm saying : "if you don't remember previous lives, you can't have another chance", precisely because you can't really learn from past lives' mistakes
And besides, he said "I think that [reincarnation] is a better approach", compared to, say, Christianity. I don't think Hindus would say that Hinduism was intended by (human) designers to be a "better approach" than other (human) designers, would they? It is nonsense to me to say that a religion is "arguably better" from another, based on any argument that is not "Truth".
There's a really good Japanese film from 1960 called 'Jigoku' (Japanese for hell) that is probably one of the most vivid depictions of hell in cinema, especially the Buddhist version. I watch it every October as part of my Japanese/Asian horror lineup for Halloween.
It's fascinating reading through the comments.
I'm Jewish, with five children. I don't think I've ever discussed Hell/Gehinnom with them. We have discussed Heaven/Gan Eden with them. When their Grandfather died, we explained that he is happy with G-d in Heaven now.
One reason why the disembodied soul is in torment is this: Souls prefer to be in Heaven, close to G-d. The more elevated a soul is, the closer they become to the ecstasy of G-d. But the only way to elevate a soul is through mitzvot/good deeds. And you can only do that with a body. Souls agree to be born in order to elevate themselves. If a person messes up so completely that both Heaven and Hell rejects them, they don't have the comfort of Heaven or even the purification of Hell. But they don't have a body either. This state of limbo is truly a torment.
All that being said, the concept of a dybbuk isn't really big in Judaism anymore. Like the Doctor explained, Judaism is a very "Here and Now" religion. Dwelling on Hell or disembodied souls is pretty pointless.
EDIT: I was just reading Little Town on The Prairie, and in the book they discuss revival meetings, with the minister ranting about sinners and hellfire. I was trying to explain the concept to my children, and my 7 yr old daughter said "What's Gehinnem?"
I tend to take this more as a euphemism for a desirable or undesirable future. I don't see G-d as having a need for such as we see it, with interpretations suggesting our consciousness may be a sum of parts of many souls. Anyway, time may not be linear with G-d's perspective and elevation is probably only achieved when your living.
@@Faizan29353 Notice how she said Gehinnom for hell, just like we say Jahannam for hell, didn't really know hebrew and arabic was this similar, but I do know both are semitic
Raised born again Christian. I was terrified all my friends were going to hell and I believe this is where my Panic! Disorder™️ stemmed from.
Awesome! Must be fun
Panic! At The Dis(co)order
@@kaleidozomade the joke i wanted to lmao (but in all seriousness op, my partner has a panic disorder and it sucks. hope you get the meds and coping mechanisms that work!)
As someone who was raised Anglo-Catholic and focused on the European Middle Ages in my university work, I have particularly enjoyed reading several of Dr. Ehrman's books, especially his _Lost Christianities _ on early movements in Christianity which were later defined as heresies. Since the vicious attacks on Islam as a faith, not those who abuse it in terrorist attacks, after 9/11, I've also studied the reality of Classical Islam and Judaism. I'm not sure if I am going to Hell, but all we can do, I think, is try to treat others, both animal and human, with kindness and respect, and trust in God's mercy.
Buddhism has a bunch of different strains, East Asian countries mostly practice Mahayana[0] and what discussed in the video is mostly related to this, but I think the biggest strain is Theravada[1] which is practiced in South Asian countries.
In Theravada Buddhism, there are 5 sure fire ways to go to hell and stay there forever called "Anantarika karma"[2].
1) Killing one's mother
2) Killing one's father
3) Killing an Arahant (Arahant is a special kind of monk who understand the truth about the all existence, they will not be reborn after death)
4) Wounding a Tathagata (Tathagata is a Buddha, there have been a lot of Buddhas in the past)
5) Creating schism in the Sangha
Also there are some things you could do(mostly doing harm to a Buddha) where the ground will literally split and you will be dragged down to hell in a fire storm by daemons.
[0]:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana
[1]:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theravada
[2]:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anantarika-karma
This is so true Thank you for commenting also I want to point that
I was disgusted and disappointed when she said all women are or mostly likely destined to go to hell in Buddhism NO! we have something called "chethanava" or better "chetanahan biqave kamman wadami" these are the words that were spoken by buddha to put it simply it means Karma is what you think and do, for an example when you are walking you are most likely stomping and killing ants is this going to add bad karma to you no, if you are purposefully killing ants yes its going to add bad karma. So the point is unless you do something bad intentionally you are not going to get in trouble So... no, being a women is not a certificate of Im going to hell in Theravada Buddhism.
@@thisewbasnayake2388 like I said, I think they're talking about Mahayana. I have no idea being a woman is a cause to goto hell in Mahayana, which could be true because even Therawada is quite sexist.
There's no coincidence that when tribal societies transitioned to city-states with kings who threw lawbreakers into a dungeon, that the god issued laws and suddenly had a hell to get tossed into.
Made up history ☝️
There is pure English verb to transition, to reference to parent, to gift and various other noun- verb monstrosities of that pidgin or dialect of pure English that is American, the tongue of the Kinderlander.
Thank you for this helpful tutorial ❤️
just make sure to not kill a demon holding a doll in there
@@chrismc1287I wanna get better loot in hard mode though
@@chrismc1287that extra accessory slot though
did it work
@@TheMapBot yes I am in all the hells it is very nice