EV Charging Station Commissioning and Test. Tesla vs Victron! Kind of...

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  • @ktacatalin3715
    @ktacatalin3715 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've been using the Victron EVCS for six months, and it performs flawlessly. Its integration with the VRM platform allows comprehensive monitoring of electrical parameters, including charging statistics and history. A standout feature is the auto mode, which optimizes charging on cloudy days by prioritizing energy from the PV panels and minimizing use of the LiFePo4 battery packs

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, I just had a play with the auto mode yesterday to understand all the features. It seems to work great. We will set the vehicle to 80% and let the station dump energy into the car whenever we reach the set threshold.

    • @av_oid
      @av_oid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did your dealer supply you with a cable or did you already have one?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@av_oid Type 2 cable? I bought this separately as shown in the video.
      The car came with its own EVSE though.

  • @DuikerIvo
    @DuikerIvo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Good work Andy! The charging limit for the Victron EVSE can be set by the Modbus TCP connection you forgot to enable. The master needs to be whitelisted. The Modbus register list in Excel format is on the Victron website

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't know what that all means...

    • @jujufurious2693
      @jujufurious2693 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks 👍

    • @ktacatalin3715
      @ktacatalin3715 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia It means you have to set 2 things in the VRM. 1: settings->Modbus TCP/UDP devices->Discovered devices -> enable your station. And 2:Settings->Services->enable Modbus TCP.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ktacatalin3715 That's what I did...

  • @marcelstriese5888
    @marcelstriese5888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Greetings from Germany Andy!
    A very good overview about the charger. I am very excited to see more content about the charging station in the future!
    I have to say that it would be also interesting to see the differences between the “old” charging station from this video and the new one which Victron released a few months ago. Both are charging stations and do basically the same thing (of course with / without a display). It would be interesting to see the differences between both or which charging station you need for which purpose.
    Possibly there is a chance to get hands on the new one for a direct comparison in the future!

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you.
      I especially chose this station as it has the display. It makes it very easy for my wife to start charging and read all the data on the display without having to fumble with a mobile phone and connecting to an up first.

  • @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
    @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    GEESUS THAT VICTRON INTERFACE LOOKS LIKE IT CAME FROM 2000.

    • @edwinbruckner4752
      @edwinbruckner4752 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well, the power of Victron is to keep it very simple, yet smart, so that you can do lots of stuff with it.
      Of course, this mostly means that setting it up takes a bit more work and knowledge ( yay, learning ! ) , but once it's set up and runs, it's practically bullet proof.
      Updates are to be kept to a minimun. Mostly you only update if youre doing the first install, once thats done, updates are no more neccesary.
      That's why Victron doesnt do automated updates on most systems, it's an extra safety issue, especially when you got a big divers system running. A small bug in the update can mess up youre whole system. Personally I think thats a very smart way of designing a system, simple, smart and robust.

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @19:50 you should always reduce the brightness on any screen, it greatly increases its life.

    • @edwinbruckner4752
      @edwinbruckner4752 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tend to dissagree, at least on my experience.
      Ive had several faults on industrial screens like this, once I set them to full brightness, the fault was gone. For years now.
      Im not making that mistake again, I also never turning them off to save some minor power. Ive learnt my lesson.

  • @phil-3852
    @phil-3852 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Austria is not Australia, Andy 😂 When you select the country in the Tesla App you said Austria 😊 Remember: There are no kangaroos in Austria 😉
    Danke für das Video. Ich werde mir vielleicht auch ein Victron charging station zulegen. Gruß aus Wien

    • @av_oid
      @av_oid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Intentional joke I think :). When I visited Austria years ago I saw the road signs that say that for sale at a service station. Obviously the Austrians have a thing about being confused with Australians, just like New Zealanders (with their copy-paste flag).

  • @chargehanger
    @chargehanger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice install. I recommend adding a Charghanger to avoid the dangling cable.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are some hooks in the shed where the cable hangs onto.

    • @3DiXY
      @3DiXY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Send him some ;) so he can make a review 🤣

  • @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
    @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heya, nice to see that victron has everything you need to set up your own power plant lol

  • @markcollins5790
    @markcollins5790 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks mate
    I had my victron charger installed yesterday and after watching your video 3 times I commissioned it into action tonight
    Love your work

  • @ElectricCarAustralia
    @ElectricCarAustralia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting Andy. Thanks for the video. Cheers

  • @tyweb9264
    @tyweb9264 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HI Andy,
    Another great Video, except the HA comment about the Victron is incorrect.. My HA has full control over the Victron EV charger, it turns on and off , swaps modes, adjusts the charge current. When installing the HA Victron integration, you need to select 2 way I thinkn this might be the difference, this enables HA to change settings on Victron devices. The EV charger "Mode" does not show correctly in HA, but you can work out pretty quickly what it means. I think it says ACoutput for Manual mode for example. An upgrade in the integration needed, but i found a way around this where you can use a label instead.

  • @markelkins8432
    @markelkins8432 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ooo - just noticed some Victron training close to my home!
    OK - I'm Registered!

  • @jujufurious2693
    @jujufurious2693 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey hello 😀, how did you integrate the Victron system into home-assistant?? I will be delighted to get there because there are a lot of automations that are possible 👍 Thank you 😁

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I used this integration: github.com/sfstar/hass-victron

  • @lecramred4453
    @lecramred4453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is easier to update the firmware through vrm, from the device list. There you can also access the ev charger portal from 1.29

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, once it shows up there, that is the way forward.

  • @AlexanderMeisel
    @AlexanderMeisel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Andi, you can see the Tesla Wallconnector 3 in your regular Tesla App as well. Just swipe to the right.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I know, it shows up under Home equipment there.

  • @Ether_Void
    @Ether_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    30:50 ... I did a bit of code digging and and apparently the hass-victron (aka. "Victron GX modbusTCP") integration should already support it but only in when you enable "advanced" mode (not the one in your user profile but the one for the victron integration). It's apparently off by default since it could make it easier to set wrong values that might damage equipment.

  • @dyeach
    @dyeach 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the interesting videos Andy!
    Also I would like to notify you that a new update has been released for JK bms with version 15.30 I can share it with you.

  • @MarkRose1337
    @MarkRose1337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In North America, residential circuits are limited to 80% of the rated ampacity for continuous use. Is it the same in Australia? That would explain why the mobile adaptor was pulling less than rated current with the two ends.

  • @excillisbank2611
    @excillisbank2611 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vraiment cool ! Elle est bien cette borne de charge Victron. 😀

  • @DIYSolarFarming
    @DIYSolarFarming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative video Andy!
    Are there any issues running this charge station stand alone without any other Victron equipment?

  • @bockerbob6137
    @bockerbob6137 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you found that higher rates of charge affect the rate of discharge in a particular cycle?

  • @WillCheang
    @WillCheang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you try the Lock Screen functionality?

  • @renevanvelthuisen734
    @renevanvelthuisen734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andy, do i understand correct no data cables to the evse from victron are neccesery because it gets the info from the vrm online?

  • @jonathanharrison2240
    @jonathanharrison2240 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Andy Thanks for sharing :D I´m super curious how do the Victron works with your tesla ?. (i´m 100% offgrid and have a X and are in the proces to upgrade my solar so i can charge more on my car until now i have only used the tesla travel charger. That Victron looks like the shit for us off grid people ) Have a nice weekend :D

  • @kevxsi16v
    @kevxsi16v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am having issues using the EVCS I want to do a battery SOH test on my M3P but it keeps saying “charged” on my EVCS and won’t let it charge when it wants it.

  • @GregOnSummit
    @GregOnSummit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Andy ... How's the Victon charger holding up?

  • @jadhindi2285
    @jadhindi2285 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I was just wondering about building a high voltage battery do you have any info of that thank you in advance

  • @rklauco
    @rklauco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use go-e charger, the settings are a bit more straight forward, not that many options as got Victron, but still does the same. Plus I have additional integration for both my EVs, that report their SoC, range, etc. back to HA.

  • @misganabulto6217
    @misganabulto6217 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please show us one solar of Borehole water supply system with elevated water tank please. But thanks for tesla charge control any way

  • @alanblyde8502
    @alanblyde8502 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting thanks Andy

  • @tonythesticks
    @tonythesticks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you able to add the cars to HA to see the state of charge directly and control from there?

  • @dangerousdoggo5465
    @dangerousdoggo5465 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello!
    Is it possible to tell the charger to charge the car to only 80% if my car doesn't have this function? By it estimating battery size and I tell it what SOC the car is on at the moment?
    Or tell the charger to stop charging after it has charged let's say 18 kwh into the car?

  • @wayne8113
    @wayne8113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Andy 👍

  • @johncampbell2311
    @johncampbell2311 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should it be 240 volt with 50 amp breaker. I see volt is right but breaker is lit small

  • @DanBurgaud
    @DanBurgaud 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:52 It is nice you can go as low as 5A. My Feyree starts at 8A.

  • @mpelenios13
    @mpelenios13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if we put inverter pv input to an ev battery at night? The inverter will understand it is sunny and continue to produce energy?

  • @SanderStolk
    @SanderStolk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there an option in Home Assistant under Developer Tools => Actions to change the Tesla charger? With my Easee charger I can change the output etc.

  • @TrevorFraserAU
    @TrevorFraserAU 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Andy

  • @nigelcharles511
    @nigelcharles511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My car charging is about 94% off-grid, 5% home charging and 1% public charging. When talking about losses, for off-grid there is of course the inverter losses which are unavoidable. The losses in the inverter will increase for faster charging (due tomuch more heat being produced) so slower AC charging off-grid may be driven by that. I will do some testing up to 32A to find out where the sweet spot is. I have a basic car charger so choosing my charge rate will depend on the amount of PV and the required minimum battery SOC. Given that at least 5% is lost when charging or discharging my batteries the most efficient charge rate is that which only uses the PV. Sounds like I need to get the Victron charger to automate that function.
    PS. Just checked some published graphs. Typically for a Multiplus 5000 peak efficiency (95%) happens around 400-800W (10-20% output). It then falls by about 1% for every 5.6% of power used with 79% efficiency at 5000W. This points to better efficiencies at lower EV charge rates, so taking the car charger efficiencies into account, the overall efficency curves may peak a bit higher.

  • @ernestkooistra1559
    @ernestkooistra1559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TY ✌

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be nice if the Victron Charging Station would tell you when you have a firmware update but I generally consider it a bad idea if any device does automatic over the air updates since that very often leads to bricked hardware and opens the device up to far more risk of becoming hacked than to require the user to download the correct firmware and update it as needed. I would also expect that after a year or 2 in service these devices will not receive future updates unless something major crops up and it ends up in the news.

  • @RayJohnson1980
    @RayJohnson1980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    andy make sure you get the extra tails for the mobile charger for when on the long road trips and they have only 3ph 32 amp plugs and no EVSE's

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, every towns showground has those 5 pin 32A outlets. Lifesaver in sunny warm inland Australia, where most single point 50kW Tritium chargers are occupied or broken. Luckily my car an charge 22kW AC.

  • @seymourpro6097
    @seymourpro6097 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plugged in at home it's only necessary to add on enough fuel for the next trip out and back, plugged in at a public charger it's usual to want to charge as fast as possible for time saving on a journey.

  • @louwrentius
    @louwrentius 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That Victron Charger exterior looks like it’s designed by a 4-year old and the software interface seems inspired by 90’s website design 😂😂❤ (I still like Victron stuff but that charger, damn) I do feel the whole Victron ecosystem is complex and could be significantly simplified.

    • @lecramred4453
      @lecramred4453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Victron also have a better looking charger without display

    • @DuikerIvo
      @DuikerIvo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly the Victron is huge, ugly and uses bad connectors for the power connectors. Definitely needs a re-design

    • @louwrentius
      @louwrentius 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DuikerIvo inderdaad 🌷😋

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But now after the software update, it works very well. Setup was definitely a nightmare in comparison to the other products they have which are just plug'n play.

    • @lecramred4453
      @lecramred4453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Setup can be better, but now you have a charger with load balancing built in, and in Automatic, charging at solar power only.

  • @SuperStrex
    @SuperStrex 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No ac wallbox can read the SoC of a car because classical ac stations do not communicate with proper protocol with the car (only via PWM and resistor values). Only wallboxes with ISO 15118 protocol uses are proper communication protocol via PLC to exchange data. Do not mix it up with a tesla wallbox, which using the tesla vehicle api to get data. Does also not provide any SoC if a other brand is connected.

  • @jurgens1485
    @jurgens1485 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To update the Victron charging station, it is easyer over VRM-Portal/device list/firmware update.

  • @ericverlaet4447
    @ericverlaet4447 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use Victron charging station for years.,now a add a ns one.
    You must paramètre it into the web page not via Victron connect.
    And also via vrm console .....
    The tesla can also work with the rs 485 port.

  • @djjmtimmermans
    @djjmtimmermans 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Andy, I have DESS enabled and I don’t want to use my batteries to charge my company car. Is it possible to set it up so that the EV only will charge from the net and doesn’t use my batteries? If possible, I’ll sell my old dumb Tesla charger and buy a Victron.

    • @MrSnowii
      @MrSnowii 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hello, since you got no reply I will share my $0.02 as this is exactly what I am dealing with. For now the only solution I`ve found was to set the "forced" energy consumption of the entire system above the max. value the TM3 will take in AC charging (11kW) - so set system to i.e. 11 kW forced consumption = car gets this steady 11 kW from the grid and the rest of the house still runs of battery. Issue being, once the car stops, it charges the house battery to full as the system aims to always consume this 11 kW as the spot price is usually lowest overnight its not really gonna be an issue much here for the next month (less and less sunny). If there is no better solution which our system supplier says there is not, next step will have to be homeassistant automation used to start the charging a few seconds after it changes the value of the forced consumption, after the car is full it will automatically lower the value back to 0W. As always with HA I can go wild for it to pick the cheapest hours in the night based on how much we want to charge etc. etc.

  • @mosfetkiller3851
    @mosfetkiller3851 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i bought a cheap junsun wallbox from aliexpress for 90 eur with a cable so i dont have to spend 500 for the victron
    if i need to charge the ev i need to charge and not sitting and waiting for something

  • @moestrei
    @moestrei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Type 2 to Type 2 cable: Get a 7.5M one, which reaches over two vehicles when charge point is ICEd.

  • @dougle03
    @dougle03 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WiFi performance from the ESP32 chip is pretty good, but the range is not very good, thus why you were having problems.
    Also, the ESP chip does have OTA but only locally. There are libraries for the ESP for WAN OTA but these are not very secure at the min, so prob best VE are not doing this.
    The EVSE screen is pretty good for an ESP32 based system, as it it's portal (This is the web page it generates locally) The ESP is a great chip, but I would have expected something a little more capable from an expensive Victron device. ESP32 chips sell for less than a $ in bulk...

  • @jonasstahl9826
    @jonasstahl9826 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be interresting to see how much standby power it uses. It has Leds and Wifi might be 5-10 watts

  • @robjohnston8632
    @robjohnston8632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, did I see an electric lawnmower next to your Tesla? If it is, can you do a review on the electric lawnmower and review how many watts / hours mowing, charging time……….As some of us go off grid, this in one of our future purchases and it would be good to get your perspective.

    • @nigelcharles511
      @nigelcharles511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have used the Mammotion Luba 2 robot mower for 4 months now. It does an excellent job and in my opinion it is the Tesla equivalent for lawnmowers. As I am off-grid for 10 months of the year it is good to make use of some of the huge amount of excess energy during the summer months.

    • @foeke8740
      @foeke8740 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have the Ryobi Zero Turn 107cm one. And you can tell Ryobi is no lawnmower company. Lead acid batteries in series without any kind of balancing (so the capacity will drift, and your battery pack will get damaged).
      It tries to accelerate like a Tesla, so your grass will get damaged if you are not very careful.
      It is very very bumpy.
      And we had to replace some parts that are just crazy expensive. One of the motors broke (magnets came loose inside, so catastrophic damage), Ryobi quoted 650 euros. I found the Chinese factory, they would have sold it to me for 60 euros.
      After I showed Ryobi why it broke, they send me one for free.
      But imagine the markup they ask initially.
      So we are not a fan.
      If you can’t repair it yourself, you are in for a money drain.
      It is cool looking though.

  • @av_oid
    @av_oid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m not sure I’d buy a charging cable from Aliexpress. If something goes wrong, your insurance will point at it. For DC products, buying from Aliexpress is fine, but for mains voltage A/C I’d want it to have passed Australian certification.

  • @FlorinUrzica
    @FlorinUrzica 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👍👍

  • @DuikerIvo
    @DuikerIvo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Next time buy spiral charge cables andy 😊

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They put so much force on the connectors over a 5m length. And sag over time anyway... I'm not a fan of these cables.

  • @PierredeVilliersLife
    @PierredeVilliersLife 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @clarencewiles963
    @clarencewiles963 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    93.8k as of today ! 😊

  • @Fergo101
    @Fergo101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Victron charger UI and screen looks like it came straight out of the early 2000’s. Such a poor job from Victron compared to everything else they do.
    Personally I’d get the model without the screen, and control via the VRM app. Hopefully Victron will sort it out eventually.

  • @Ebolanext
    @Ebolanext 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Love my Victron EV Charger (Victron Fanboy😂)
    There are more ways to update the Firmware. (Einfachere über VRM Portal= Geräteliste)
    Onely one Bug with the display. I have to set the birghness down to 20-30% otherwise the display hang off.

  • @andreasroge7218
    @andreasroge7218 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Moin 👍👍👌

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello🙋‍♂️

    • @foeke8740
      @foeke8740 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OffGridGarageAustraliaProject Farm hires someone to reply to almost everything.
      Just saying

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@foeke8740 What???

  • @icoroticus8590
    @icoroticus8590 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Soo close!

    • @markusviel6440
      @markusviel6440 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Da hat der Andy aber "Dussel" gehabt.

  • @launacorp
    @launacorp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I changed all my WiFi Devices to 5GHz to let the 2.4GHz for stuff like EV-Charger, Inverters, Shelly etc. So my 2.4GHz WiFi doesn´t interfear with my Phones, Tablets, TV and so on.

  • @MrButuz
    @MrButuz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting Vid. The Tesla charger is just no nonsense works reliabily and more importantly is cheap over here - about half the price of the victron. The victron is just not good enough for it's price and the software interface and set up looks like a 200 buck charger off amazon not nearly a thousands buck charger. Just not good enough. Also if your breakers are 20 amp you should really de-rate the max charge current on the car charger by 20% for long term use - it's literally law over here now as it prevents loads of plug/cable/breaker melting and fire risks.

    • @michaeladdis5965
      @michaeladdis5965 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Victron now seems to be available for as cheap as AUD $720 vs Tesla at $800. Not sure why the sudden price drop, but worth considering at that price.

  • @ElectronTinkerer
    @ElectronTinkerer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The control pilot only carries a PWM signal created by the charging station. The car signals readiness by pulling down the voltage of that signal with a resistor (in fact two, one for "connected" and one for "give me juice")
    Absolutely no way to communicate complex data with that type of interface.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, right, thanks for the explanation.

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Tesla Wall adapter can speak both, the Type2 protocol (Called Legacy Mode in Tesla speak) and a CAN bus type of communication when charging Tesla vehicles.

  • @gabius_times
    @gabius_times 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    « Austria » ? I thought you were living in Australia 😝

  • @cyberplebs6577
    @cyberplebs6577 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🐸🐸🐸

  • @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
    @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HOW DA FK THEY SO PRECISE WITH TAKING THAT TRASH BIN!!! DRIVER GOOD OR SOME AI KNOWS WHERE TO GRAB? :D

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is Driver controlled but grabbing mechanism is quite tolerant to offsets.