Salvaging a Sunk 25' Boat Out of South Florida Inlet, Parbuckle, and Tow In To Safe Harbour

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  • @matter1234
    @matter1234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    This was my uncle's boat, it's wild to see video of you saving it! thank you so much

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Yeah, I've known Jackie and this boat a long time, back when he was fishing out of Seasport early 2000's in Jupiter. Hopefully the boat is salvageable, I know the feeling, been there too..

    • @RisenThe
      @RisenThe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He should probably try to remember where he parks it next time!

    • @OGMoses_
      @OGMoses_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How did he capsize it if you don’t mind me asking?

    • @nailbanger2
      @nailbanger2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The owner probably abandoned it when it started to take on water, then the ocean took over. I thought this looked familiar, and when he mentioned Sandsprit Park I said welcome to Stuart out loud. LOL

    • @stevendegreef93
      @stevendegreef93 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@OGMoses_ Plug came out on high speed. You don't notice that while on plane, because then the plug sits above the water level. Once you stop planing (lower speed) water starts coming in, after 10 minutes you notice the water and may be unable to think about a plug that was lost. There isn't much time, soon the water rushes in over the edge.

  • @jackmarks2176
    @jackmarks2176 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I lived on a sailboat for several years and seen a lot on the water, but that operation was totally slick. As you started moving and picking up speed I realized what was going (or should) happen. Again really cool, take care.

  • @gabrielchirinos9992
    @gabrielchirinos9992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Good job Captain. I'm glad we have you in Stuart I love boat U.S

  • @notsure7874
    @notsure7874 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    #1 culprit is the drain plug. I keep some expanding ones that fit the hole even though mines threaded (I also keep threaded ones). If I'm taking on water, I'm putting an expanding one in the hole from the inside (I'm not getting under an outboard being tossed around by waves) and get to bailing.
    On a boat that size, there are positive displacement lever type pumps that move a whole lot of water, and they basically stay out of the way. They're a hell of a lot better than buckets / hand pumps. Still carry hand pumps though, the more the merrier!

  • @beachcouple1741
    @beachcouple1741 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    That was a great job, especially for just one person 👍

    • @andrewskater8813
      @andrewskater8813 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just one man and he made it look very easy. Never heard of parbuckling before

  • @88888gerald
    @88888gerald 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    when he first started the pull the bubbles his boat kicked backward starting seemed to be pushing water out of the hull pretty good....nice job...

  • @MrBugsier5
    @MrBugsier5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Textbook manouvre, Nice job!

  • @joels1234
    @joels1234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    wow...that was definitely cool... flipping the boat over and dragging it in, and saving the boat...nice

  • @SamCyanide
    @SamCyanide 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video. That cage around your motors is strong

  • @paulkersey2179
    @paulkersey2179 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Nice work, that's pretty cool doing that by yourself. Thanks for sharing

    • @yakacm
      @yakacm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The police boat was there too.

  • @TheCapthof
    @TheCapthof 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I'm impressed, a little concerned about your safety, but impressed.

    • @bigKANG420
      @bigKANG420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good thing he's running the show not you

  • @markcrume
    @markcrume 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great recovery Capt.

  • @hotrodhog2170
    @hotrodhog2170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The amount of idiot comments in your videos is laughable! I see it in all the channels I watch too, so you are not alone. People criticize ones word choice or how they did or didnt do this or the other thing when this guy obviously knows what he is doing and been doing it for years as a reputable tow operator in a very busy market. Thanks for your FREE content Captain! I been watching since the beginning (less than 50 subs) and still amazed at what you are capable of doing! Fair seas sir

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They know what I mean. When the Coast Guard calls out on the radio they say "Vessel Sinking". It's the term we use to describe a boat going down whether fully submerged or not. Comments drive the algorithm so I'm not too worried about it..

  • @dennisbyron3168
    @dennisbyron3168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Buddy that was some real good work there. Hats off to you.

  • @christopherrhoderick9706
    @christopherrhoderick9706 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That was absolutely impressive

  • @JaymoJoints
    @JaymoJoints 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If you forget your drainplug, better remember Captain Retriever's number

  • @camojoe83
    @camojoe83 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That didn't look like a frequent trailer boat, not with the hull that green... Did the plug just get kicked out from flexing over time or did it just get old and give up?

  • @alessandrocristofani6975
    @alessandrocristofani6975 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done!!! you are very expert , congratulations

  • @someguydino6770
    @someguydino6770 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my grand daddy used to say that "just because you can buy a boat; don't mean that you are a captain"
    nice how the boat drained as it was pulled forward at speed

  • @twosons5290
    @twosons5290 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Only a true dude jumps into the ocean with a ball cap on

  • @williamjohnson817
    @williamjohnson817 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Never in my 53 years have I ever left the drain plug outta my boat. That’s the 1st I do at the ramp after I test the motor to see if it’s gonna start.

    • @notsure7874
      @notsure7874 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been boating for ... good god, nearly 40 years now. I forgot the drain plug one time. It was an unfamiliar boat, and I was distracted by other things. Figured it out before I got pulled away from the ramp. Right back on the trailer, and out of the water it came! I never forget that important lesson, and I don't believe I'll ever forget one so long as I live.

  • @louism9790
    @louism9790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yall the real hero’s out there

  • @cgirl111
    @cgirl111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You only need the drain plug removed when the boat is on the trailer. When I ran trailer boats I had a drain plug inside and outside the boat. I also installed 2 high water alarms in the bilge. I used the ones made for hot water tanks from Home Depot.

    • @ft6972
      @ft6972 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cool

    • @notsure7874
      @notsure7874 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I never plug from the inside unless somehow I lose the one on the outside. I don't want to be under an outboard as its being tossed around by the sea so if that happens, I plug from inside and get to bailing.

  • @atexan
    @atexan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A one-man retrieval.... very impressive!!

  • @chuckfrumunda1835
    @chuckfrumunda1835 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing work 👏

  • @thelolsdad3354
    @thelolsdad3354 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys got skills

  • @williamdejeffrio9701
    @williamdejeffrio9701 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    AWESOME!! You are one brave soul to jump in unfamiliar ocean water like that...(said as a person who has an irrational fear of ocean water)

    • @stevenc9207
      @stevenc9207 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A brave soul? Millions of people swim in the ocean every day?!?

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s obviously somewhat scientific but one minute it’s full of water and partially sunk next thing it’s fully upright and floating
    As a non boater I have no idea how that works but it very impressive to watch 👍👍🇦🇺

  • @timburnett6729
    @timburnett6729 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Job well done sir

  • @antonioalarcon2930
    @antonioalarcon2930 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Eres un crack ,no solo lo has rescatado sino que le has dado la vuelta y lo has dejado flotando jejej 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @dogpatch8266
    @dogpatch8266 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    thats a $10,000.00 salvage job for a $200.00 boat.

  • @tonyb456
    @tonyb456 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love watching this work

  • @madmanmechanic8847
    @madmanmechanic8847 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That woujld be a blast to recover boats like that

  • @mattman237
    @mattman237 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great job to have.

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work as always!!

  • @MrDannyd9
    @MrDannyd9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was pretty sick. You are good at your job lol

  • @DLBard-bv2nd
    @DLBard-bv2nd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great professional ! 🤗🇺🇸👍

  • @scottallen7195
    @scottallen7195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hondas hard at work .. I pray im never in this predicament 20 miles out or ever

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just make sure you have an epirb.. Sometimes it happens fast, and people get so caught up thinking about saving the boat they forget to grab their communication devices

  • @wiks101
    @wiks101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow Great job!

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The old I forgot to put the bung in
    I would put a big sign on the steering wheel
    Did you put the bung in

  • @dirtrocket9
    @dirtrocket9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good job.. what size is that portable bilge pump u use.. I been thinking about adding one as well?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably around 25’

    • @dirtrocket9
      @dirtrocket9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainRetriever I meant bilge pump.. GPH?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dirtrocket9 3700 Rule 12 volt

  • @safvue1
    @safvue1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazing how he flipped that boat

  • @madyogi6164
    @madyogi6164 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice techique.

  • @MrBe787
    @MrBe787 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a cool job to have.

  • @welcometomoorerving5800
    @welcometomoorerving5800 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant job.

  • @thaiexodus2916
    @thaiexodus2916 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just a general observation not relevant necessarily to this video. Speaking from 50 years in emergency services, one will never find a great concentration of dumb moves than weekend sailors who think the ocean is their toy. Add alcohol and not checking weather forecasts, a perfect recipe for screw ups.

  • @MvR640
    @MvR640 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see a 2nd boat picking the debris from the ocean

  • @jameshimself1018
    @jameshimself1018 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come drain plug holes don't have a check valve that allows water to go out but not flow in? I imagine this technology already exists. Mabye some kind of retrofit drainplug with checkvalve could be installed?

    • @SanchoPanza-wg5xf
      @SanchoPanza-wg5xf 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I imagine it's for the same reason that your bathtub doesn't have a check valve. It would get clogged and defeat the purpose of the drain. A small amount of competence on the part of the operator is expected.

  • @richardbrown2447
    @richardbrown2447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im not be impressed offer But I am today The way you towed that boat Amazing

    • @mike_oe
      @mike_oe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What??

  • @noway9880
    @noway9880 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting. Reserve buoyancy?

  • @JohnD357
    @JohnD357 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing you can do all that work without a second guy.

    • @RHaarFl
      @RHaarFl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are used to it

  • @blackbird9813
    @blackbird9813 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Greate job, nice to see

  • @roberthunter8990
    @roberthunter8990 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is your preference for the Honda outboards

  • @davidmacpherson8710
    @davidmacpherson8710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the sunken boat owner did not hire TowBoat to retrieve, would the person who tows and salvages the boat become the new owner?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Florida doesn’t allow you to just take boats, it’s still registered to the rightful owner. They could agree to sign it over if they want nothing to do with it.

    • @davidmacpherson8710
      @davidmacpherson8710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CaptainRetriever Thank you.

    • @notsure7874
      @notsure7874 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainRetriever Florida is kind of wild sometimes. This dude in Jupiter had his boat robbed of electronics, and the trailer stolen (boat was on the same property in the water). The thief forged some documents to complete the "transfer" of the trailer at motor vehicles immediately. The police and the dmv told him "that trailer belongs to someone in Hialeah now" as if he signed it over to someone else legitimately.

    • @FishermanKyle
      @FishermanKyle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@CaptainRetriever if they decide to not let you salvage do they have to pay you then for your service?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FishermanKyle it’s all no cure no pay when it comes to salvage unless we boomed it or something

  • @Hurst6969
    @Hurst6969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems logical to tie the "bowline" to the "bow"

  • @richardknott2021
    @richardknott2021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job..

  • @corbettcondray
    @corbettcondray 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @michaelboyer9429
    @michaelboyer9429 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OK, so how much did this cost for you to go out and salvage it basically 🤔

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This one was just a pro bono one, but typically about 225 a foot, so 5-6k

  • @captng
    @captng 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Folks like these are what put the kids through college 😂

  • @hotrod76.
    @hotrod76. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was that flex seal.!!😂😂

  • @williams-wr5lg
    @williams-wr5lg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So do you get to keep the boats you salvage?

  • @grasscutter88
    @grasscutter88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn is there a seat belt on that boat? You're going straight through the windshield if you hit a sandbar

  • @mikej1097
    @mikej1097 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great advert for those Honda outboards

  • @steven.h0629
    @steven.h0629 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very Impressed 👍😎✊

  • @porkchop659
    @porkchop659 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just curious - what size is your tow rope? That is a tremendous amount of pressure and I was just wondering!

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not too much pressure, we use a 3/4 double braid with a break strength around 16,000 lbs. I need to do a video where I bring a scale out there to show how much force is actually on these tow lines.

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For the harder tows we use a 1/2" dyneema or amsteel that breaks around 30,000 lbs with no stretch, but it's bad for everyday towing..

    • @porkchop659
      @porkchop659 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CaptainRetriever that video would be interesting to see for sure!

    • @steventrojanowski3595
      @steventrojanowski3595 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      CaptainRetriever Great videos great content, as a cdla heavy tow truck operator I find this extremely interesting… subbed

  • @dwightbernheimer331
    @dwightbernheimer331 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If that was my vessel I just want it to be 100ft down. I want to be able to call the insurance company and work something out... Just sayin'... I don't want that vessel back NOW 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂... Just sayin'... Great job thanks for posting...😊😊😊

  • @joehulbert8514
    @joehulbert8514 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like it. hook up hammer down.

  • @lewispaine4589
    @lewispaine4589 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The dreaded drain plug fail

  • @fourfortyroadrunner6701
    @fourfortyroadrunner6701 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is confusing. A simple drain plug mistake, it happens. Why wouldn't the operator use his head and think "where could this be coming from?" Why not beach it, looks like he was not far off from shore? LOTS of damage there, to the top structure, etc.

    • @pepperypeppers2755
      @pepperypeppers2755 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've never known regular ole human beings to make mistakes. Perplexing indeed 🤔

  • @NicPoisel
    @NicPoisel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rad video

  • @petersalt2342
    @petersalt2342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a floating sunk boat...

  • @barqwoof
    @barqwoof 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not your first rodeo. Well done. Jim

  • @ralphchristian9273
    @ralphchristian9273 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And always carry extra plugs

  • @chrisgardner6677
    @chrisgardner6677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mahalo! What type of bilge pump did you use?

  • @steveoadams2434
    @steveoadams2434 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its looked like a tuggy 😂in the thumbnail

  • @justicekalash
    @justicekalash 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good job

  • @E3ECO
    @E3ECO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can you get it to float with the drain plug out?

    • @notsure7874
      @notsure7874 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Once the boat is moving, most boats inertia pushes the water back out of the drain plug hole. It's when you stop that it starts gushing in.

    • @E3ECO
      @E3ECO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@notsure7874 Ohh. Thanks.

  • @martinwertz1988
    @martinwertz1988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool

  • @doctortheopolis3122
    @doctortheopolis3122 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd say it looks more capsized than sunk.

  • @Adam-mf9cl
    @Adam-mf9cl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is the drain plug not the first thing you check when taking on water.. I double check the drain plug after a pint of whiskey before I get to my duck hunting spot with my shotgun.. If there’s anything you’re going to forget while drunk at 6am it’s the damn drain plug…

  • @paulgray2387
    @paulgray2387 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you get salvage rights?

  • @psychiatry-is-eugenics
    @psychiatry-is-eugenics 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:51 left the drain plug out .
    I did that almost every time , luckily I never bought a boat

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about the financial side thou? No offense to whoever's boat this is, but it doesn't look like it's worth anything? Maybe the outboard but that's been submerged in salt water for however long. Would insurance pay, or the city if you couldn't find the owners?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@yakacm liability insurance usually covers it due to oil, fuel, and hazard to other boaters. Owner didn’t have any money for recovery, I just did it because Ive known him forever. But actually our county has a derelict program you sometimes can just sign the boat away, or they charge you with felony dumping in some cases.

    • @yakacm
      @yakacm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainRetriever I'm from the UK, but I remember seeing a case on The First 48 when they used to do Miami There was a murder involving homeless living on an abandoned boat. The cops based on the police boat was talking about how big a problem abandoned boats are in Miami.

  • @willhall7777
    @willhall7777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I only take my drain plug out if I'm in the water.

  • @richardthomas1566
    @richardthomas1566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I always thought Sunk was under water

  • @mzimm460
    @mzimm460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The drain plug mafia

  • @luckyluke33
    @luckyluke33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why leave the anchor ?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Did this for no charge, recovering an anchor solo on a sunk boat gets a little tricky sometimes, and it was a busy weekend so I had to do it quickly. But the spot is marked, rocky, and only 10’ deep

  • @fenceman53
    @fenceman53 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Big bill coming. Another hole in the water you fill with money 💴

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This one was one of the very few I did for free. We’ve all known the guy for years..

  • @bobvecchi304
    @bobvecchi304 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the owner was trying to scuttle the boat, and his plan back fired?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He went to the hospital, definitely no insurance, and was out there sunk for 5 hours.. This was definitely an accident

  • @dansw0rkshop
    @dansw0rkshop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:27 lost something

  • @simonbaj334
    @simonbaj334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drainplug mafia strikes again

  • @omarjohnson3411
    @omarjohnson3411 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was an insurance scam. Hope they go to jail......

  • @camojoe83
    @camojoe83 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wtf is with these "that's capsized not sunk" comments? Yall know the most buoyant part of a fiberglass hull is the bottom with all the bracing and stuff, right? If it fills with water, they always roll over unless they're over a certain size that the engines will keep the hull down... Lil fishing boats like this almost always turn turtle after they turn into bathtubs.

  • @1stofer
    @1stofer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing how such a small thing as a plug falling out can sink boats worth tens of thousands of dollars if not hundreds and no one has invented a safety of some kind. Like a hydraulic plug or something idk

  • @maxmackinlay618
    @maxmackinlay618 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its a cool job when you can work in bare feet.

  • @dougdean3134
    @dougdean3134 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Expensive mistake!

  • @Getouttahere78
    @Getouttahere78 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These boats did not sink. They capsized

  • @Alex_Eggers
    @Alex_Eggers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    should've bought a boston whaler

  • @Golden-dog88
    @Golden-dog88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    if its floating upside down then it ISNT SUNK

  • @robertstancer4469
    @robertstancer4469 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A view from the UK. Gotta ask, do you yanks do EVERYTHING in a baseball cap? Did you wear one on your wedding night perchance. Was the bride alright with that?

    • @CaptainRetriever
      @CaptainRetriever  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To be fair, it's a visor, and I've given many a salt bath to keep sun off my face, salt just gives it character.

    • @4stringmanagmaildcom
      @4stringmanagmaildcom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Helps reduce incidence of skin cancer on the face when you are on the water all day, every day, especially in a sunny climate.

    • @unseenpresence
      @unseenpresence 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I pretty much do....

    • @jeffparker3334
      @jeffparker3334 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We pretty much do yeah 😊. My wife and I both wore one on our wedding night….

    • @robertstancer4469
      @robertstancer4469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffparker3334
      Just tell me you wore them 'back to front' during consummation PLEASE! Or did you 'dance' peak to peak? It's not me asking Jeff, it's the wife.....