The difference between a kinetic rope and a flat strap?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2020
- Let us introduce Matt from Matt's Offroad Recovery, He has been working extensively with our ropes and has had many successful recoveries with our equipment. These ropes really do "change the game" when you are offroad.
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I dont even off-road and I want a Yankum rope.
Same
There are multiple parts to Matt's success. Obviously the Yankum Ropes play a very big part. But choosing the best attachment points and attachment pieces play a significant part too. Then Matt's strategy, not just dumb luck. Tie it all together.
Matt is definitely a problem solver. Very impressive to watch any of their team during a recovery.
vote for Matt!
I am so glad I had been watching Matt use his Yankum rope(s) on his TH-cam channel! I bit the bullet and bought one (over $300 altogether - including shipping), and coincidentally used it 3 days after receipt to extract my bogged down ~25 hp Kubota tractor from mud. Prior to that, I'd tried to use the SUV's 9600# Warn winch, but it wouldn't budge - it just started dragging the SUV toward the tractor! Similarly, trying to tow the tractor out directly with my 5.4 liter 4x4 6700# Expedition in Low range didn't help. It was really stuck! Sure glad I had the Yankum as we got even more rain shortly thereafter! I thought I was going to have to hire a tow truck, which wouldn't have been cheap! I've really learned a lot from watching Matt's approach. Obviously, brute force power isn't always the answer. He's pulled out a lot of big, heavy rigs using his Jeep and the Yankum ropes. Amazing and seemingly a really nice, hard-working guy too!
Can't believe that I came here to watch an advertisement when I pay you-tube to not show me advertisements but whenever Matt shows a video, I watch it.
My family had a rope like this used on the farm to pull tractors and combines since the late 70s. Back when you bought the rope and had to fashion the ends your self. Luckily we had a couple handy brother in laws that were able to turn rope and rebraid it back with eyes on each end.
It’s not hard to do, you should learn to do it. Very handy skill to have, takes you 5 minutes to learn with TH-cam
@@TheyCallMeNomad this is not typical braid and cannot be hand braided and served like many other ropes and lines
I literally used this video to teach my friend about kinetic tow ropes. Your awesome Matt .
I vote for Matt. Matt cares.
Thats a definite infomercial energy right there.
Love watching ,you have so much knowledge , thank you for sharing
The knethic energy the bunge rope puts out is amazing
I gotta say, I love your vids, and your yellow rig. I’ve got an ‘87 that’s had a hard year, 330 k mikes on the odo, but runs like new. Rear ended in June. then stolen, but she’s back and waiting for a repair, and then my own restoration. XJ’s!
Yes it's true Matt's off road recovery sent me to your page.😎👍 nothing beats a good Yankum rope with soft shackles to boot. Yeap dog diggitty!
I ordered one of the yellow ropes. Can’t wait.
Matt is the best endorser to Yankum ropes!
Kinetic rope from Miolle really "change the game" An amazing recovery tool for any off road vehicle. But also extremely useful for a two wheel drive auto stuck in the snow, Sand ,or mud. Easy to use and stores simply in it's carry bag in the trunk or tool box. The quality is 100%! Service from the company is excellent. Loved their tool!
I am a subscriber and i also aprove this message....😆
Nicely done!
I was a passenger in a tow Land Rover using a kinetic recovery rope on a stuck Land Rover. I don't know why but I found it hysterically funny to zoom forward, feel the rope stretching and the stuck vehicle keep whizzing us back again. We did get the stuck one out OK but it was a great laugh - no idea why I found it funny though.
I appreciate the demo. My education continues... dumping the flat strap with hooks, getting loops... and a good kinetic rope, too. I might need a bigger boat. 🤔
Thank you!
I don't know in the US but the flat strap can be kinetic too and that what you need for vehicle recovery. And the strap is easier to store than the rope 😉
Some on az died doing that. They tried a kinetic recovery with a flat strap and sent the hitch flying
@@crafter505 not hooking to a proper point doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. I’ve used simple flat straps off-road for years with no issues these ropes are just the newest snake oil
Very nice!
haha, ya big nerd (I mean that in the nicest way), that was a super cheesy commercial and I think it is awesome. Good stuff! I want to buy one now that AZ has cooled down and offroad weather is back. The ropes are awesome, but you have skills to go with them.
One ad on TH-cam I did NOT try to ⏭ Skip
Yeah yeah, LOL Matt you make it look so easy. But you do a wonderful job and I have learned so much from watching all of your videos. The main thing I’ve learned, that you should not do an evil Knievel over a Sandune. Enjoy watching your videos in the oil fields thank you for the entertainment..
We have a yellow Yankum rope in our Jeep from Matt.
Ordering one after watching his TH-cam’s
Great video I have a question is the kinetic rope transmission safe
I'd like to seethe Yankum rope used in a static pull the same as the strap for a fair comparison.
what size soft shackles do you typically use
I think there is a huge misunderstanding that these ropes are 100% safe compared to straps. Fab Rats broke a soft shackle at the wrecker games, the recoiling rope took out a headlight, mirror and caused body damage. Flying mass is flying mass.
Interesting to see how the US and Australian snatch straps differ. Over here the snatch straps (flat straps) are designed to stretch too. They are designed to work in the same manner as the kintetic rope demonstrated in the video, though i think the rope does have a little more stretch in it.
I think there is confusion regarding terminology: probably the 'flat strap' is a standard no stretch rope/webbing, whereas the 'kinetic rope' is what is commonly called a "snatch strap" in Australia and may be a webbing or rope like.
Lol I've used flat recovery straps for years, there is a difference between a flat tow strap and a flat recovery strap
The recovery strap does have elasticity and functions essentially the same as your recovery rope.
I recently purchased a 1.25 inch recovery rope and look forward to a 0.75 inch one as well.
I cannot wait to try rope vs straps.
How is it attached to other car? Is there some kind of hook or something?
as in Dr Isaac Yankum DDS? Or do I date myself?? Nice video guys. Thanks.
but can the ROPE be used to pull a vehicle that is disabled through a trail, or at least to an area that a tow truck can get to it?
I dont offroad but keep a tow strap in my truck, have since bought some soft shackles and recently a kinetic rope.
Don't like the idea of a static rope jerking the shit abruptly out of another vehicle and damaging it or hirting someone
price of flax rope?
A recovery or snatch strap should be dynamic not static more a rope man myself having said that cheers
Thank you! This video is a joke
Can you do a short distance tow with a kentic rope and soft shackles
You can do a long distance tow if you had to, the problem is most people that get towed have a hard time refraining from running over the rope.
Now Matt has his own brand of rope
And we make them!
@@YankumRopes How come you changed your website so you do not ship to Australia after I contacted you about the shipping charge , to hard to fix the problem, pretty rude way to fix a problem with a customer trying to purchase your product, and Matt is selling the 7/8 inch rope and I am after the 1 inch x 30 ft rope.
@@glenmccarthy7913 Glenn, my apologies for the slow reply, it’s cyber week, we are trying to take care of every issue that comes our way, both domestic and foreign. I thought I was going to have a answer to you about a potential distribution option we have been trying to finalize in Australia. But I don’t have definitive answers on that quite yet. This issue would solve our shipping failure to Australia.
Revisiting this a couple of years later (maybe I get "triggered" by this content when ever I happen upon it - good to keep the algorithm rolling)
- There remains a really real question? why was (does) Matt - or even Yankum, confusing -or at least not clarifying - a tow strap with a snatch recovery strap (or indeed possibly even lifting sling). Not all straps are the same (of course you guys know all too well, or you probably shouldn't be in the game you are in). A Snatch strap a dynamic recovery device which is woven - in a weave intended to stretch - from nylon (~25% stretch), a tow strap is usually polyester (low stretch, as low as 2% - the material chosen is by design it is not an accident nor a "cost" concern).
Both are "derived" from the lifting industry (but are not actually / rated as lifting slings) and are designed for different tasks, and have "tell-tale" threads incorporated to indicate if they have been overloaded and should be retired (a snatch strap shouldn't be used for long form towing, just as a tow strap shouldn't be used for dynamic recoveries).
A dynamic recovery rope 9yes, not a tow rope), typically is not regarded as having a limited "workinglife" (unlike a dynamic "snatch" strap) and doesn't appear to have any indication as to whether or not it has been overloaded (in practice bogans in the boonies often keep using a rope or strap until it parts company with an end or so - hopefully there are no hard bits getting slung about when this happen - towballs, mid point shackles, pulley blocks, etc.)
Yes, one can weave a rope (or a strap too actually) with any degree of elasticity (strength also, though naturally there are engineering limits based on material selection, etc) as desired by altering material weave and layering, etc..- one COULD use rubber bungee cord in such a rope if 100% or greater of elongation was desired (yes and of course bungee cords reach their full strength - dictated by the woven outer sheath, which hopefully takes up the strain before the rubber cord exceeds its limits.
BTW that recovery should have had another tug - once the Banana started digging down, the dynamic rope had no further real effect in the system... - gotta have a laugh still......
If the rope ain't yella give it to the other fella! 🤣😂😅🙃😁😄🤪
Which version of the rope is this? 1"?
On Matt's Recovery videos, he stated that he uses the 7/8" inch rope. Rope diameter is selected based on the weight of the vehicle doing the recovery. Matt's Jeep is light(~4000 pounds or less). For a full size pickup, the 1" or even larger is a better solution
So kinetic is better for towing a car than flat? Im talking just a guy on the road going to help a friend by towing his car with yours.
You can bounce on the end of our rope! This will make flat towing a much better experience since it is designed to stretch. Just don’t run over the rope, same as a flat strap. Where our ropes shine is recovery and extraction. These ropes stretch 30% so if your friend s stuck in the mud this rope makes the recovery from the mud a breeze especially if your wheels are fighting for traction in the very same mud your friend is stuck in.
Matt, what size of rope do i need to carry in my 4Runner? I was thinking of getting a 1-1/2" X 30', would that be enough or too much? I don't want to be borderline barely enough, i want to have the most optimum size.
Wow this will be a delayed response... For a 4Runner we recommend getting a 7/8" rope. A 1 1/2" rope is for much larger vehicles. If you were to attach a rope that large to your 4Runner it would not stretch during the recovery. If you hop on to our website, you will see pictures with each rope that will help guide you to the right one. If you want to chat, click the chat icon in the corner of the site and we can answer any of your questions. Sorry again that we weren't checking all the comments when you asked!
@@YankumRopes Well because of your delay or absence, I ended up buying a 1 1/2' ditch pig rope, $350! And I can't return it because its been a while. I feel pretty stupid now.
@@marcusharley3064 You should feel even stupider for buying into this BS. Recovery straps (like the one in this video) are made to load just like the rope. They are also tougher and cheaper.
@@JohnDoe-lj8bc now you are just being mean. Are you kidding me? Wow! I don’t know why you are attacking this ad so vehemently without evidence facts or proof, (we have LOTS OF PROOF as to why our ropes are stronger safer more reliable and stretch more than flat straps. But hey it’s a free country where you can say unsubstantiated opinions and fact-less statements.
Do your research John before you say stupid things. It’s makes you sound stupid.
@@JohnDoe-lj8bc Have you ever used a flat strap to tow another car? You cannot jerk it, it does not stretch. If you have any slack, even a few inches, when the strap goes tight, it will snap/shock, usually the towing vehicle. It does not feel good, and can/will bend or break things, especially if you are towing out a vehicle that doesnt have really good recovery points. A friend got stuck in the sand bottomed mud in Jersey, and unless you have a much stronger and heavier vehicle to pull him out, which I didnt, our flat strap was useless because his truck weighed 1000 lbs more than my SUV. He was able to free himself by working the problem easier than using my car to pull him out.
But why compare a kinetic rope to a static strap instead of a kinetic strap?
Speaking specifically about failures. Is there testing data that show the speed at which a failed strap travels ? Snatch strap FPS vs a kinetic rope FPS failure ? Is seems a kinetic rope with its stored energy and larger mass would have a higher speed and would cause more damage.
I do not have an answer for your question, however, in the build process videos Yankum posted, the ropes are made with two layers. The Inner layer is woven, and the outer layer is woven around it. IMO, This should mean that if the rope broke, it would break either the inside or outside first, and the other layer would prevent the broken part from flinging out. If a regular strap breaks, there is nothing to hold it together
i got one because you never know :)
I bought the biggest top of the line rope from RINO. Something tells me it's a yank-um. Relabled. RINO doesn't manufacture there own ropes.
I heard the first 10 commenters on this video get a free rope?😉
i love the way they always compare the yankum rope to the flat strap, and not to other kinetic ropes out on the market,no disrespect though i love the yankum rope and i don't even own one!
This video is a joke. The "flat strap" literally says "recovery" on it meaning you can load it. This is a recovery strap or a snatch strap, not a tow rope. Works the same as the jokum rope.
its not the difference between a strap and a rope you showed, it was the difference between a dynamic pull and a static pull. has nothing to do with the design of the device used. little bit deceptive there and somewhat disappointing that you did it that way. do a snatch strap vs a kinetic rope and it would be more genuine.
You need to tint them front windows
Come on now. We all know good straps stretch too. He did a dead weight pull n a kinetic pull. Im sure your ropes are good but do a equal comparison if your gona compare
Lol. That was a little misleading. I like the ropes and matts channel but ive yanked and presently use a flat strap.
flat snatch strap or flat load strap?
I have a chain in my full size and a cargo strap in my car....more than adequate but not the BEST. This is pointing out there is a BEST 👌
@@brucebaxter6923 flat tow strap from harbor freight
snatch straps forever
That test was flawed. The difference is that a recovery rope allows you to get a running start before the pull. It's geniuse but you can get the same effect with rope and a shock observer
Definitely need to watch out for the shock observer 👍🏼 especially if the observer is shocked 😱
@@YankumRopes lmao. That was good.
@@YankumRopes I ment I large spring
Tow one from a dead stop and the other from a running start. Seems legit.....
Yup, we are using the flat strap as it was designed and the kinetic rope as it was designed. Flat straps are not designed to be shock loaded, Matt mentions this in the video.
@FireoftheGreeks... Um ya that’s the point. You cannot build and use kinetic energy with a flat tow strap. It will cause major damage to the vehicles.
@@YankumRopes You couldn't be more wrong. The strap he is using LITERALLY says recovery on it... MEANING IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE LOADED. Now you expect people with half a brain to buy your product??? THIS IS COMICAL. I'd be careful with false advertising...
@@JohnDoe-lj8bc ROFLMAO
@@JohnDoe-lj8bc jealousy and ignorance make John a dull 👦
This is comical. The snatch strap literally says "recovery" on it meaning you can load it.... What a joke.
Load means weight or tension. Of course you can use it for a “load” that is what it’s designed for, pulling. Now a running shock load, THAT, is a very different much larger “load”. Most flat straps are polyester (polyester only has a 5% stretch capability) and the flat weave doesn’t allow for stretch like a braided round rope. Even if you compare Nylon for Nylon flat VS round, you will not get the 30% stretch that our ropes are capable of.
This “recovery” flat strap is designed for static pulling, our round braid is designed to be shock loaded.
The round braid is much like a “finger trap” as you pull its radius reduces this also contributes to the ropes stretch capability.
The strap in this video is nylon and has 20% elasticity. It is designed to stretch and rolls up much smaller than your rope and is cheaper. Now your rope does have. 30% stretch but you really only need at 10% stretch to be effective. Any more misinformation you want to spread?
@@JohnDoe-lj8bc you are misinformed, I’m really impressed that you think you can read the tag on the strap. Because when I bought it it said polyester… it’s a polyester strap… polyester
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It’s weird to me that you are so offended by this advertisement, what made you so angry? Truth hurts I understand bu why are you taking the stance of direct personal and mean spirited attacks?
@@YankumRopes u can send em to school...but can't teach em to read 😉