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Yeah the information presented is actually useful. Most comparisons are like "let's do a drag race" "wow all of these bikes are awesome" etc. I got a 2015 CBR last week before seeing this video and can confirm the difference between the CBR and a ZX6R is night and day. The Kawasaki feels like a gigantic beast to operate compared to the CBR. It also feels like I'm trying to do a pushup just riding it making my palms hurt. Overall it's a fun bike, the Honda is just better for me. You can actually sit comfortably. It feels like an R3 but with 600cc power.
FYI- Another great point to mention is that many 2007+ cbr600rr owners still have valves that are in spec at 50,000 miles! I called the honda dealership for a valve adjustment check at 18k miles and they laughed at me and said they've never had a 2007+ cbr600rr where the vales were out of spec. That's Honda quality for you!
Quality must hold true across the board for their bikes - My CB900 (Has the CBR900RR engine) calls for valve checks at 16k. I waited until 37k to check, and now at 62k miles they still have not had an adjustment. Engine runs and sounds beautiful - you hear that perfect little tick from the valves and nothing more. I'll probably easily hit 100k with no adjustments, but of course that's no excuse to skip the checks just in case. It would be a shame to burn or seize up an engine that's easily capable of 200k+ miles because of one bad valve.
FYI- I forgot to mention the CBR600rr and Suzuki GSXR600 have a built-in electronic steering damper that keeps the bike smooth over 50+ mph, so no tank slappers like you would experience on the ZX6r and R6 which do not come with steering dampers, something extra you'll have to buy and tune.
Actually the ZX6R does come with an Ohlins steering damper. It is only the R6 that does not come with a steering damper. On top of that, factory steering dampers that come with the bike from the factory are fairly weak. They are great for normal riding but at high speeds on a track or even on the road it is best to either upgrade or redo the internals. Also, all the 1/4 mile times are so close that it doesn't really make a large difference and will largely depend on the rider. I know someone who got a 9.98 on a completely stock 2009 ZX6R. I will admit that I do really like the 07/08 CBR600RR and almost bought one.
MotoZixxer Unless they added one on the 2014 or 2015 models the zx6r 636 does not come with a built-in steering damper. I'm talking built-in, not a ohlins SD added on. Marknowhereman bought the 13 zx6r 636 when it first came out and I asked him about the SD, he said it did not come with a SD but he said it didn't need one for street riding.
CycleCruza From 2009-2012 the ZX6R has come with an Ohlins steering damper. It is not like the GSXR where it is hidden or electronic like the CBR. It looks like an add-on unit but it does indeed come with the bike from Kawasaki. Kawasaki did not include a steering damper on the newer models and that is why the 13 ZX6R does not have one.
CycleCruza oh and one other thing. Like I said earlier, all stock steering dampers that come with these bikes from the factory are all pretty weak. They are all about equal in performance and perfectly fine for street riding. However, if you do a lot of spirited riding in the twisties, then you will definitely benefit from either upgrading the stock steering damper that came with the bike or purchasing a normal spec steering damper. Also this is another good thing about the 2009-2012 ZX6R because it is easy to remove. On the CBR and the GSXR they are much more difficult to work with. Anyway I hope this helps anyone looking for a 600.
FYi- Although I presented mostly facts in this video, I just gave my reasons why I chose the cbr600rr based on these facts. Many people have different preferences though. "To each his/her own" No need to get butt hurt. lol
+CycleCruza not to mention shortest wheelbase and a 23.7 rake. the electronic steering damper, awesome throttle response and in my opinion the better looking of the bunch
how'd it work out? My buddy just got a 636 and I had to ride it back from the guy he bought it from. The arm fatigue was crazy and it felt heavy as shit. I bought a CBR a week later and it feels like an R3 in terms of comfort but with 600cc power. I can sit upright for cruising and it doesn't fatigue me. The stock steering damper is what sold me. I got the wobbles twice on the 636 ripping it. Definitely my mistake and the Kawa is a nice bike but I prefer the Honda.
@@Brancovtn65 it feels about the same. I'm 6'2'' and have a relaxed position, my buddy is about 5'10'' and has a slightly more aggressive posture on it but still much easier on the body than the 636 for him
@@gregmccauley1687 ah yeah that’s what I figured. I’m closer to his height and wouldn’t mind a taller seat height, but some unfortunate events have transpired to where my feet would prefer less pressure on my toes lol. How’s the low down torque on the CBR?
FYI- I was joking at the end, I probably should have said all of the japanese bikes are great but it depends on your preferences on which bike is the best for you. really, you can't go wrong with any of these bikes, it just depends on what you look for in a bike. Performance wise all of the current japanese bikes are close in performance, except the R6 has the weakest low and mid-range power out of the 4 japanese bikes BUT if you are a track guy that is not as important to you and you may actually prefer a top end bike. So it's all about your preferences. If you buy a bike solely on looks or a test ride than that's your prerogative too. As long as you are happy riding that's all that matters.
Hi CycleCruza. I really want the R6 just because i think it's the best looking 600 out there, But i heared from others and from you that it's not comfortable, but still i want it cuz it looks so good.. i think that cbr600rr looks less good than R6 but the CBR is comfortable, And the R6 has low and mid range power and u have to lean forward, and i also have abit pain on my lower back. But the r6 looks so good.... so i'm stuck between these two bikes., what do you think?
FYI- The cbr600rr was redesigned in 2007 with added strong midrange power, the previous 2006 and older model years were all top end and no low to midrange power like the R6 and older zx6r. This video will show you the difference in power between the 2006 cbr600rr and the redesigned 2007/2008+ cbr600rr : th-cam.com/video/odMbPaBJgIc/w-d-xo.html Night and day difference! CBR600rr won the 6000cc shootout in 2007 and 2008!
of all the reasons you've stated. .the removable gas tank cover is what swayed me in the cbr's direction from the r6..thanks for the advice and keep up the good work
Helping you all save time on your research and to help you avoid buying a 600 solely on looks. Btw, the reasons given in this video were for primary street use.
CycleCruza In my opinion.. the CBR looks sexy as fuck. although the R6 looks nice, I would rank it like CBR, R6, GSXR tied, because I've seen the R6 and GSXR's with matte fairings and holy shit, but I fell in love with the CBR at 16, my dad had a honda, I want a honda. I actually drove a honda, so I would like to stick to honda, cause I beat that car up and it's still running.
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I work for honda and we wear white cause it's cheap and it makes you as visible as possible without reflexive material. No one cares if you get dirty or not.
HowDoWeKnow assembly line worker? Lmao it’s 2020 no one does that shit, bikes come in a box and they are assembled at a dealership by guess who the mechanics.🤣🥴
Believe it or not, I bought this bike just because of you, and I loved it. I have the 2011 CBR600rr black and red and is the best bike I had ever driven. I'm about to get the 2015 CBR600rr.
I got a 2015 a few days ago. Feels like a little R3 to ride, light and flickable with comfortable seating. Other 600s I felt like I was doing a pushup to ride it.
I'm riding a ZX6R 2006 myself and tested the CBR600rr 2007 from a mate. I must say, the cbr is sooo much more comfortable and sooo much easier to ride than my ninja! BUT, at the end of the ride, i found myself a bit bored with the cbr. With the ninja, you have to work in the corners, the cbr does all the work for you. IMO, the cbr is a more relax motorcycle to ride, but the ninja is more of an adventure. so i'm stay with my ninja ;) good vid though
Great vid... lots of info... been riding smaller Hondas for over 100000kms for commute and long rides and I love how smooth and reliable they are. Was confused if I should try a gsxr or the 600rr next, but this sort of has resolved the dilemma 😋
I test drove all the 600's in 2007 and bought my GSXR. Most comfortable out of all. I will say, CBR's are more reliable, but I believe the GSXR's are more aggressive and comfortable. I am currently of my second GSXR.
+Juan Perez i might get a 2008 gsxr with only 10000kms and with a full two bro exhaust and with other after market parts but the body of the bike is relatively stock
I ride a 1995 ZX6R, got 34k miles on it, still rides like a charm. 100% analog though, no quickshifter, no gear indicator, no traction control and no ABS, just raw motorcycle. lol
@@CycleCruza Thank you, and keep up the good work spreading the biker gospel! You're helping deliver a new passion to thousands of people, and that's a beautiful thing.
Thank you brother I totally agree with what you said and this helps me a lot due to the fact that I looking for a 600cc myself.... I was stuck between the Honda 600 RR and the Yamaha r6
As always thank you for the great video! I am one of the people this video is made for lol Like I said before: After riding for about 5 years I owned 5 different bikes (Cruiser, Standard and Sport Touring but never a Super-sport) the reason why so many is because none of them made me really happy/smile while riding it so I kept getting different ones in the hope to find one I like so I would keep it for years. I know that is very stupid and expensive no matter how good of a deal I get. And currently I have a Honda VTX 1800 (a cruisrer) which I will keep for two up riding and a 2010 VFR1200 F (sport touring) which is really fast bike and I removed the power restrictions in the first and second gear, increased the RPM limit setting, eliminated the top speed limiter in 5th and 6th gear etc. and it's even faster now.... But for some reason I never felt connected if you know what I mean with any of the bikes I had in the past? Is it me? Am I broken lol? Or maybe I didn't find that perfect bike? " CycleCruza said that I haven't found the perfect bike yet" :) which I think it's true 100%. For some reason I could never connect with that bike (no grin/excitement/fun factor/happiness if any while riding it and all the bikers should know that I'm talking about) and I know that is weird because like I said everyone loves their VFR's! So I question myself from time to time if it's me or what? I have no clue to be honest... I am afraid I may regret it later but there is only one way to find out. So I posted it up for sale/trade finally and I'm planning on getting a Honda CBR600RR or CBR10000RR (which I can't find new anywhere for a good deal like CycleCruza did) and hopefully that direct explosiveness of the inline 4 will cure my strange cravings?! I think I'm looking for a bike that scares me? As crazy as that sounds... I will be making my decision soon. ? Thank you in advance
Make sure to get the 2007 and newer cbr600rr, the 2006 and older cbr600rr are all top end and have weak mid-range power. For the cbr1000rr, skip the 2008 model because they had some oil burning issues that model and some of the 2009's. Best of luck!
CycleCruza I currently ride a 2010 Honda VFR 1200 and it is a sport-touring but I am looking for something that is not as heavy but with lots of power. Originally I was hoping that a 600cc would do for the streets since I'm not into track ridding at all. Well today I had an opportunity to test ride a 2009 CBR 600RR (with an intention to take it home right after and have it in my garage tonight) and a 2005 Yamaha R1 at the same dealer. The CBR felt great and I have no complaints at all just like CycleCruza has always said in his videos! Very comfortable, great position my legs in the right place around the tank etc. I really couldn't ask for much more in that CBR Double RRRRRRRRRR :) However not enough power in my opinion, for some reason not that fast when you open the throttle all the way (keep in mind that I have never owned supper sport). And in my mind it is a deal breaker :( The R1 on the other hand was like a rocket and has so much power that keeps your adrenaline flowing fast and it's simply awesome and I loved it. The only thing I didn't like is the leaning forward too much. After the test ride for a few minutes I wanted to buy R1 but the seating and comfort is important and that's why I didn't :( So I have to test ride CBR1000 RR, Suzuki GSXR 750 and a Kawasaki ZX636R (which I don't think it will be much more powerful than a 600cc but I will test drive it for sure before I spend my hard earn money) and make my decision on what to get. The R6 is out due to low power and too much leaning forward needed. It seems like that with my VFR1200 I'm used to or immune to the power that I need something very torque to notice a difference and to satisfy my strange cravings....
eslc eslc Cool to hear your feedback. for street riding the 600rr is a lot of power but if you are a high octane person than a liter will probably be best suited for you. The 2008+ cbr1000rr is lighter and a tick faster than the R1 and the cbr1000rr has smoother fueling from what I hear. Also, the cbr1000rr is more comfortable except the 2014 and new models , they lowered the bars a bit and moved the rear sets up higher for a more track oriented riding position. let me know how you like the cbr1000rr.
Thank you for the quick response. I really want a Honda 1000 RR.To be honest stepping down as far as power from my 1200cc's (and I do realize my VFR is not a super-sport) I probably shouldn't bother with Suzuki GSXR 750 or the Kawaski ZX 636?!
eslc eslc Price wise there are still some left over 2013 cbr1000rr to be had for cheap. Test ride the 636 and 750 too but you may enjoy the cbr1000rr more. Skip the 2014 because honda changed the ergos to more aggressive track riding position.
I have CBR 500R, it's almost a month old and I'm thinking of getting a 600 bike. First I want to get R6 but now you've convinced me so much to get CBR 600 doubble Rrrrr!!!
Great video. I agree the Honda CBR 600 is a fierce competitor in the 600 series that is undermined. The R6 is the sexiest to me personally. Once the R6 is flashed the bike opens up on the road. I love your white and black theme on the CBR 600. If I decide to not go liter bike my current options are CBR 600, GSXR 750, and Triumph Daytona 675. The triumph has fuel gauge, gear indicator, steering damper, abs brakes, and if you go with r version it has ohlins suspension. Your videos are solid and I enjoy seeing things from your prospective. If I want to learn about Hondas I come to your channel. Some people may undermine your position since you stick to one brand. Truth is the Honda motorcycle vlogger community is pretty minimal. Your insight is appreciated.
Thanks. For me reliability takes precedence because I'd rather be riding than fixing or wasting time of my life at a dealership or mechanic. The CBR600rr has proven itself to be the most reliable supersport ever made with no known issues, which is very rare, usually every bike has some sort of issue. The R6 can be flashed but it's still an uncomfortable bike and even flashed it's still doesn't have as strong mid-range power as the cbr600rr. However, at the end of the day you get the bike that best suits your needs and that you are happy riding. Best of luck!
You should try to be a bit more unbiased. Just say you like Honda the best and don't have any data or factual evidence outside of personal preference. Here are the facts and downlow on the current gen Supersport bikes: 1. Reliability: I ride a '13 ZX6R but data says the most reliable brand is Yamaha. 2. The strongest mid-range is the '13+ Zx6R, then the GSX-R, then the 600RR and last is the R6. Dyno sheets prove this. 3. Comfort. That goes to the GSX-R due to higher clip ons, lower seat 32 inches as opposed to the 600RR at 32.3" and the GSX-R has the plushes/softest seat 4. The undertail exhaust? Really? It has a tendency to heat up the seat, google it. 5. A removable tank cover? Umm, the ZX6R comes with easy to manipulate compression and rebound on the two front forks which is more functional thank a tank cover. 6. I laugh at how the fuel gauge is somehow more important, than say, ABS or traction control. Lastly, if you want the most "comfortable" supersport, get the GSX-R due to it's seat height, clip ons, and plushness of the seat. If you want a track weapon, get the R6 because it has no power/torque down low. If you want the best of both worlds and most technologically up to date bike, get the ZX6R. Also, the ZX6R has won more Moto-USA 600cc Supersport Shootouts than any other 600 bike and there's a reason for that. But carry on.
+Touhoua Yang Very nicely put mate. I cant freaking wait til I get a 636. And to go with the already good low end torque I'm going to get a power commander to liven it up even further :D
I own a 2006 CBR 600rr that i use for track days and occasional street riding and this bike has been maintenance free and it can keep up with the litre bikes on the race track. Honda is the best bike on the planet for fit and finish, you will not find a better built bike! Ive been riding for over 40 years and have owned Yamaha, Kawasaki and Suzuki street bikes and dirt bikes and ill tell from experience you cant go wrong with a Honda! My 600 quarter mile pass was 10.84 127 mph with me riding it and it is a very competitive and reliable machine. Great vid BTW!
THIS IS AWESOME!! CycleCruza This helped!! All the motorvloggers talk about what bike you should get and it all depends but all you're giving us the facts and that's refreshing!! Thanks man!
My son wants my 500r to have and learn on so I'll be in the market soon to buy another moto. This was very informative. Thanks again. I really enjoyed this video.
now the comfort part i dont agree. have a 08 r6 and an 08 600rr, the yam at 75 mph cruising i get no vibration in the hands, my cbr at 75 vibration into the hands after about 35-40 minutes i have to stop. i can ride my r6 all day. And... yes i have had my cbr in and checked over 3 times. still vibrates. same tires on both. cbr does have more street able power, the r6 is a screemer
I have owned the Honda 600, Kawasaki 600, Suzuki 600, my favorite bike is Suzuki gsxr, sold the Honda and the Kawasaki, also have M109R 1800cc Suzuki, Suzuki's are the best Japanese bikes
I've just upgraded my 2006 600rr to the 2014 zx636 ninja and all I have to say is holy moly the ninja is way better in every way, I loved my rr but I had no idea the ninja is the best hands down. It could of done with a clock and fuel gage tho tbh lol
I think it comes down to preference and what works for the person. My 2 cents is to do diligence in research on all the bikes in the class and find what suits you. Maybe it will be the cbr.
just bought a 2016 harley 48 was in love with it at first but. got a few buddies that have sport bikes..and now I wanna trade mine in....have always been a Honda Dan so definitely looking at the cbr 600rr....
As usual I appreciate your joking approach to things and that you don't pretend to hide your bias. My first bike was a Ninja 650 so if I'm not going "Euro" I lean towards the green machine. But still dug hearing your facts side-by-side. When you guys thaw out in OH have fun out there and keep it rubber side down.
Check any professional or amateur club racing since 2010 and the top 10 riders ride R6...maybe a ZX6 every now and then. CBR6 is maybe a better bike for reliability and comfort on the street. But all supersport bikes were designed for the track...not the street.
Pretty good video. I have to say, my favorite bike is still the ZX6R. But the CBR is next which the other bikes far behind. You gave lots of information. Awesome! ;)
zx6r is a great bike, they improved the mid-range greatly in 2009. I know a lot of riders who love that bike. Really, all of the japanese bikes are great bikes, it's just comes down to personal preferences and what you are using the bike for.
Great job with all the facts I have had a cbr 600rr and it is by far the best bike I have ever owned honda has the best quality hands down. I ride a 07 gsxr 600 right now and the power on it is right up there with the Honda the biggest difference for me is the comfort, night and day difference. Great review 👍
Good video. I’m on my second 600rr. Love them! I do remember that there was a recall for the stator something-or-other back around 2009-2010. Was it for the 1000? Can’t remember.
I currently ride a 2010 Honda VFR 1200 and it is a sport-touring but I am looking for something that is not as heavy but with lots of power. Originally I was hoping that a 600cc would do for the streets since I'm not into track ridding at all. Well today I had an opportunity to test ride a 2009 CBR 600RR (with an intention to take it home right after and have it in my garage tonight) and a 2005 Yamaha R1 at the same dealer. The CBR felt great and I have no complaints at all just like CycleCruza has always said in his videos! Very comfortable, great position my legs in the right place around the tank etc. I really couldn't ask for much more in that CBR Double RRRRRRRRRR :) However not enough power in my opinion, for some reason not that fast when you open the throttle all the way (keep in mind that I have never owned supper sport). And in my mind it is a deal breaker :( The R1 on the other hand was like a rocket and has so much power that keeps your adrenaline flowing fast and it's simply awesome and I loved it. The only thing I didn't like is the leaning forward too much. After the test ride for a few minutes I wanted to buy R1 but the seating and comfort is important and that's why I didn't :( So I have to test ride CBR1000 RR, Suzuki GSXR 750 and a Kawasaki ZX636R (which I don't think it will be much more powerful than a 600cc but I will test drive it for sure before I spend my hard earn money) and make my decision on what to get. The R6 is out due to low power and too much leaning forward needed. It seems like that with my VFR1200 I'm used to or immune to the power that I need something very torque to notice a difference and to satisfy my strange cravings....
Guys believe it or not, it is really a nice bike and i just love riding it everyday. i think it got great balance between performance, comfort and build quality. Honda knows how to make bikes. A new owner from Macau
even tho i like the kawaski and i was wondering between it and the r6 and i was looking for precisely which one is easier for maintenance, i have to say you made me love the cbr600rr and thank you for the full review of all the bikes. better than a lot of people on youtube where they just be sitting on their bike and talking
I LOVE Honda. My Dirtbike is an 03 CRF450r (never had ANY motor issues with 200 hours of RACE HOURS on the motor with NO valves adjustments, starts in one or two kicks) I talked my buddy into buying a 2002 CR250r (two stroke motocross bike) has had ZERO issues. My first rocket was a 2001 CBR929rr, only had to replace the stator in 7k miles, nothing else. And now my 2007 CBR1000rr, the Previous Owner was my buddy, and he never had ANY troubles with it. Honda is just amazing. Great video Cruza. Very informative. You've proved your points, but alot of people will stick to the brands they like no matter what you show them or say. But hey, me and you are on Hondas, we'll ride right past them while their on the side of the road :)
Cool to hear! I was just stating why I chose the cbr600rr based on the facts presented but people have their own preferences. All of the japanese bikes are good bikes though.
CycleCruza Yeah they're all amazing bikes, but the only one that gets set apart from the rest is the CBR personally. I just feel like a CBR has more personality so say then the other bikes I've ever ridden.
Faulty rectifiers on Suzukis has been a pain in the ass way back since '99 (if not earlier). I experienced the issue on my 1st gen SV650s, Luckily, I was in the city and didn't have to call a toll truck.
One thing you failed to mention, however, is seat height and body position. I'm 6' 3 so it automatically rules out the CBR600rr due to the fact my knees breach the top of the tank, with both feet on the pegs. Not a pleasant riding position.
I have the black graffiti 2008 and it rocks. Usable power for ultimate street fun. And comfortable, though my former 2004 gsx600r was just as light, just as comfortable and arguably more of an intuitive in corners and fast bends. Best bike I've ever owned and wish to buy again: Honda Sp2. Nothing else like it that I've ever rode.
I never said that. lol There are many old kawasaki bikes on the road. If you maintain any japanese bike it should last a long time but hondas are known to get more than 100k miles if maintained well. There is a dude on youtube with a cbr600f4i with over 300k miles on it.
Yes i know but you have a super biased opinion and i already know what it is before watching your vids lol. I like them tho not trying to be rude:) No issues with my 2014 gsxr600 yet so im happy lol.
david carlson I didn't say anything bad about the gsxr 600, I said it has good low and midrange power for a supersport. I just gave facts about the factory recalls and that it has low clip-ons compared to the cbr600rr and it has a painted tank which can be a pita if you want to change the paint scheme. Otherwise, the gsxr 600/750 are fine bikes. really, all of the japanese bikes are great bikes, it just depends on your preferences. I just listed my preferences in this video based on facts.
Anyone disagreeing re watch the video. Depending on what you getting the bike for, CBR is the best option for the street and cheapest that holds its value.
Personally I have found that I actually like the ZX6R a little better l. To me it looks and feels a whole lot nicer. I'm not a huge fan of the undertail exhaust but I know some people love it. I think it looks better on the side. I have ridden all 4 bikes as well and I would say that the CBR is my number 2. I do own a ZX6R and have put roughly 5000 miles on it and I still have had no problems with it at all. It runs smooth and fits me perfect. Good video tho. That's just my opinion
CBr600rr and R6 both are great bikes but R6 has much better handleing and top spped R6 is better in many things but CBR 600RR is much more comfortable than any other in there list
This is completely biased, you can find problems on any bike if you dig far enough. I have a cbr 954, and when it comes to the 600s I think the r6 is the best of the lot
lol I guess you missed all of the facts presented. These are the only biased opinions in this video: I said the cbr is the most comfortable, I like the under-tail exhaust and I think it's the best 600. Everything else presented in this video are facts.
Someones been hitting the heroin pretty hard hahaha r6 and best are two words that should never even be near each other. Ive owned 2 R6 and 2 CBRs. And R6 are the most hunk of shit bikes ever made. They fall apart once they reach 53k miles everything just breaks at once. They're uncomfortable as fuck. The have shit low end power. They look good and they got nice high end for the track that is it. for a street bike i rather right a fucking moped that ride a piece of shit r6. I have owned an 07 and 09 Unless they made the 10+ much more better or different nothing has changed. It is a shit bike for the street period. Track its a beast. CBR overall great bike for everything. Gsxr as well although reliability is alright. Kawi i would never touch cause they are fugly as hell bug eyed looking things But the ZX10R is pretty great except for looks imo keep in mind I've tracked/ridden both bikes equally as hard i have the right to say w/o biased. r6 looks/track thats it. CBR does everything right although 09-12 lack power which is just bullshit. and 13+ are fucking camaro looking things with sexy rims. You want a CBR 07-08. You want an r6 you better be a track day guy or your gonna have a bad time. they're good for pics and track. And sell it by 20k miles or else its just gonna be a hunk of shit.
TacoGP You hit the nail on the head, that's what I've been hearing from a lot of riders over the years. Many people gravitate towards the R6 because of it's looks but then after owning them for a while they realize it's not a great street bike.
Ylyoy remind me of Dusty Rhodes, and that's a compliment Awesome video. I have a 2021 cbr300r and am looking to upgrade or get a second bike 600 class. Love the cbr
the newer cbr 600rr has very different chassis, it's not just cosmetic changes, you didn't mention they changed the front suspension (which is a big change in a sports bike) with a showa big piston fork
I truly respect your choice of machine. But im a gsxr guy through and through. I just recently added a second K1 to my small collection of SS and cruisers. It's kinda funny still but I have a 01 600 zx6r an k1 gsxr 600 lol!
your points are good especially the gsxr recalls including the frame welds on 1000cc and 600 cc gsxr which snap if enough force is put on it like wheelies or even potholes, however your points about this bike is so heavy or this bike is so much lighter is really off base. 10-15 pounds difference or even 25 pounds isnt much on a 400 sumo. the percentage difference is negligible. once you start taking 100 lbs off or at leat 50 pounds off thats when you start to see a little difference. I want a 500cc on a 225 lbs GROM, that's the best weight to power ratio
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What do you mean by (clip ons?) thank you 🙏
Watching this in 2020, wow man, one of the most detailed comparison, thanks for this 🙏
@@thegoldbarron9504 Yes. Unless you have a better suggestion
Thought I’d give you that 50th like lol as I definitely agree. All the best...😎
Yeah the information presented is actually useful. Most comparisons are like "let's do a drag race" "wow all of these bikes are awesome" etc. I got a 2015 CBR last week before seeing this video and can confirm the difference between the CBR and a ZX6R is night and day. The Kawasaki feels like a gigantic beast to operate compared to the CBR. It also feels like I'm trying to do a pushup just riding it making my palms hurt. Overall it's a fun bike, the Honda is just better for me. You can actually sit comfortably. It feels like an R3 but with 600cc power.
Watching in 2022. 😬
@@guanjun1178 realizing the current generation bikes all have fuel gauges now.
FYI- Another great point to mention is that many 2007+ cbr600rr owners still have valves that are in spec at 50,000 miles! I called the honda dealership for a valve adjustment check at 18k miles and they laughed at me and said they've never had a 2007+ cbr600rr where the vales were out of spec. That's Honda quality for you!
Quality must hold true across the board for their bikes - My CB900 (Has the CBR900RR engine) calls for valve checks at 16k. I waited until 37k to check, and now at 62k miles they still have not had an adjustment. Engine runs and sounds beautiful - you hear that perfect little tick from the valves and nothing more. I'll probably easily hit 100k with no adjustments, but of course that's no excuse to skip the checks just in case. It would be a shame to burn or seize up an engine that's easily capable of 200k+ miles because of one bad valve.
Can you do video on Daytona 675r??
I bought a 07 CBR 600RR because of this video and I do not regret it!!!!
My 06 cbr 600 has never had a valve adjustment at 40k miles. A month ago I checked the valve clearances and they were all in spec!!
FYI- I forgot to mention the CBR600rr and Suzuki GSXR600 have a built-in electronic steering damper that keeps the bike smooth over 50+ mph, so no tank slappers like you would experience on the ZX6r and R6 which do not come with steering dampers, something extra you'll have to buy and tune.
Actually the ZX6R does come with an Ohlins steering damper. It is only the R6 that does not come with a steering damper. On top of that, factory steering dampers that come with the bike from the factory are fairly weak. They are great for normal riding but at high speeds on a track or even on the road it is best to either upgrade or redo the internals. Also, all the 1/4 mile times are so close that it doesn't really make a large difference and will largely depend on the rider. I know someone who got a 9.98 on a completely stock 2009 ZX6R. I will admit that I do really like the 07/08 CBR600RR and almost bought one.
MotoZixxer Unless they added one on the 2014 or 2015 models the zx6r 636 does not come with a built-in steering damper. I'm talking built-in, not a ohlins SD added on. Marknowhereman bought the 13 zx6r 636 when it first came out and I asked him about the SD, he said it did not come with a SD but he said it didn't need one for street riding.
CycleCruza From 2009-2012 the ZX6R has come with an Ohlins steering damper. It is not like the GSXR where it is hidden or electronic like the CBR. It looks like an add-on unit but it does indeed come with the bike from Kawasaki. Kawasaki did not include a steering damper on the newer models and that is why the 13 ZX6R does not have one.
CycleCruza oh and one other thing. Like I said earlier, all stock steering dampers that come with these bikes from the factory are all pretty weak. They are all about equal in performance and perfectly fine for street riding. However, if you do a lot of spirited riding in the twisties, then you will definitely benefit from either upgrading the stock steering damper that came with the bike or purchasing a normal spec steering damper. Also this is another good thing about the 2009-2012 ZX6R because it is easy to remove. On the CBR and the GSXR they are much more difficult to work with. Anyway I hope this helps anyone looking for a 600.
CycleCruza 09-12 comes with a damper
FYi- Although I presented mostly facts in this video, I just gave my reasons why I chose the cbr600rr based on these facts. Many people have different preferences though. "To each his/her own" No need to get butt hurt. lol
+CycleCruza not to mention shortest wheelbase and a 23.7 rake. the electronic steering damper, awesome throttle response and in my opinion the better looking of the bunch
He only gave his opinion. He wasn't butt hurt at all.
It's funny that he based his opinion on buying the bike as if he had already owned the bike for 2 and a half years🤔
Now that I know the CBR is the best in class at everything, I’m gonna go out and buy a ninja 636 still.
😂
how'd it work out? My buddy just got a 636 and I had to ride it back from the guy he bought it from. The arm fatigue was crazy and it felt heavy as shit. I bought a CBR a week later and it feels like an R3 in terms of comfort but with 600cc power. I can sit upright for cruising and it doesn't fatigue me. The stock steering damper is what sold me. I got the wobbles twice on the 636 ripping it. Definitely my mistake and the Kawa is a nice bike but I prefer the Honda.
@@gregmccauley1687 How's the seat height on the CBR compared to the 636?
@@Brancovtn65 it feels about the same. I'm 6'2'' and have a relaxed position, my buddy is about 5'10'' and has a slightly more aggressive posture on it but still much easier on the body than the 636 for him
@@gregmccauley1687 ah yeah that’s what I figured. I’m closer to his height and wouldn’t mind a taller seat height, but some unfortunate events have transpired to where my feet would prefer less pressure on my toes lol. How’s the low down torque on the CBR?
FYI- I was joking at the end, I probably should have said all of the japanese bikes are great but it depends on your preferences on which bike is the best for you. really, you can't go wrong with any of these bikes, it just depends on what you look for in a bike. Performance wise all of the current japanese bikes are close in performance, except the R6 has the weakest low and mid-range power out of the 4 japanese bikes BUT if you are a track guy that is not as important to you and you may actually prefer a top end bike. So it's all about your preferences. If you buy a bike solely on looks or a test ride than that's your prerogative too. As long as you are happy riding that's all that matters.
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Hi CycleCruza.
I really want the R6 just because i think it's the best looking 600 out there, But i heared from others and from you that it's not comfortable, but still i want it cuz it looks so good.. i think that cbr600rr looks less good than R6 but the CBR is comfortable, And the R6 has low and mid range power and u have to lean forward, and i also have abit pain on my lower back. But the r6 looks so good.... so i'm stuck between these two bikes., what do you think?
Ecko Centauri hey mate, same here :(
@@antebigon , R6 is for track or fast short ride . Yamaha live for high rpm , is not a daly bike 😉😉😉If you go 200m trip , better have a good neck 😂😂😂
@@nedialkosimonov3893 Hey sir, i wrote that 5 years ago haha but yeah i got the R6 and i didnt regret 1 second of it. best 600 out there ;) ;)
Five years later, it's time to update your video or when are you coming out with part 2.
FYI- The cbr600rr was redesigned in 2007 with added strong midrange power, the previous 2006 and older model years were all top end and no low to midrange power like the R6 and older zx6r. This video will show you the difference in power between the 2006 cbr600rr and the redesigned 2007/2008+ cbr600rr : th-cam.com/video/odMbPaBJgIc/w-d-xo.html
Night and day difference!
CBR600rr won the 6000cc shootout in 2007 and 2008!
I have the 2006 cbr600rr nd is beats pice of bike I love it 😎
Is it just me or does the newer model CBR600RR look like an older model bike? It looks very weird and bulky..
I think so to glad someone else said it xS graphics looks outdated
Joel lindblom lol they downgraded like shit
the 2007 version looks amazing
+Rmonification i Agree with you all tho the 2016 versions look sick, check them out. Hondapowersports
Joel lindblom You mean the 2017 version? SIKE LOL! But what are you talking about? That's the one I was saying is ugly.
+Rmonification m.powersports.honda.com/model/street/supersport/cbr600rr/2016/colors
of all the reasons you've stated. .the removable gas tank cover is what swayed me in the cbr's direction from the r6..thanks for the advice and keep up the good work
so nice to see you give reasons for picking your bike. so many people go blind into buying a bike and then blindly think its the best bike in world.
Helping you all save time on your research and to help you avoid buying a 600 solely on looks. Btw, the reasons given in this video were for primary street use.
CycleCruza
In my opinion.. the CBR looks sexy as fuck.
although the R6 looks nice, I would rank it like CBR, R6, GSXR tied, because I've seen the R6 and GSXR's with matte fairings and holy shit, but I fell in love with the CBR at 16, my dad had a honda, I want a honda.
I actually drove a honda, so I would like to stick to honda, cause I beat that car up and it's still running.
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This video is long waited. ... thanks bro 😊
Can't deny the R6 is straight up sexy though.....
Agreed, but not practical for street use.
you sold me, harley it is
x2eXu50x lol
Im guessing youre old
Eww
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I work for honda and we wear white cause it's cheap and it makes you as visible as possible without reflexive material. No one cares if you get dirty or not.
No investigation if there is a spec of dirt?
gimpeyLegs You work for Honda...in Japan though??
This guy probably works at the dealership doing oil changes lmaooo he’s not a 600 engineer 😂🤦🏻♂️
@@mrredline3940 People that build the bikes aren't "Bike engineers" they are assembly line factory workers...
HowDoWeKnow assembly line worker? Lmao it’s 2020 no one does that shit, bikes come in a box and they are assembled at a dealership by guess who the mechanics.🤣🥴
Fantastic video, I was trying to decide between gsxr600 and cbr600rr. I'm definitely leaning more towards honda now.
Believe it or not, I bought this bike just because of you, and I loved it. I have the 2011 CBR600rr black and red and is the best bike I had ever driven. I'm about to get the 2015 CBR600rr.
I’m about to get a 2011 CBR600rr
Im in 2020 and Im still sold 😂
I’m in 2020 and I’m trying to make up my mind BUT on weather to get a 600 or 750 lol
@@tonylyons1274 750
I got a 2015 a few days ago. Feels like a little R3 to ride, light and flickable with comfortable seating. Other 600s I felt like I was doing a pushup to ride it.
I'm riding a ZX6R 2006 myself and tested the CBR600rr 2007 from a mate. I must say, the cbr is sooo much more comfortable and sooo much easier to ride than my ninja! BUT, at the end of the ride, i found myself a bit bored with the cbr. With the ninja, you have to work in the corners, the cbr does all the work for you. IMO, the cbr is a more relax motorcycle to ride, but the ninja is more of an adventure.
so i'm stay with my ninja ;) good vid though
Great vid... lots of info... been riding smaller Hondas for over 100000kms for commute and long rides and I love how smooth and reliable they are. Was confused if I should try a gsxr or the 600rr next, but this sort of has resolved the dilemma 😋
I test drove all the 600's in 2007 and bought my GSXR. Most comfortable out of all. I will say, CBR's are more reliable, but I believe the GSXR's are more aggressive and comfortable.
I am currently of my second GSXR.
Youre a wise man, sir.
You got a gsxr because you couldn’t afford any other bike lol
@@ExurtsYT hater
So what I got from this vid is to get a R6 . Gotcha.
+Juan Perez r6 is so sexy and has more power hmmmmm
+DatProPubstomper I got a used 2004 R6 all white for $1200. Excellent running condition
+Juan Perez nice
+Juan Perez i might get a 2008 gsxr with only 10000kms and with a full two bro exhaust and with other after market parts but the body of the bike is relatively stock
JayMonstaR6 lucky SOB😍😍😂
2009 Zx6r here. The best 600 in my opinion.
Well said well said
I ride a 1995 ZX6R, got 34k miles on it, still rides like a charm. 100% analog though, no quickshifter, no gear indicator, no traction control and no ABS, just raw motorcycle. lol
Why so I’m looking between a cbr and zx6r wats a good first bike?
Got myself the 2008 CBR600RR this week, I LOVE IT. It's everything I could ever ask of a supersport.
Nice! Congrats and best of luck to you!
@@CycleCruza Thank you, and keep up the good work spreading the biker gospel! You're helping deliver a new passion to thousands of people, and that's a beautiful thing.
Thanks for this video, I was deciding between a GSXR and the 600RR and this made my choice
Which was??
Just bought a 09 cbr600rr... its awesome!
Thank you brother I totally agree with what you said and this helps me a lot due to the fact that I looking for a 600cc myself.... I was stuck between the Honda 600 RR and the Yamaha r6
As always thank you for the great video!
I am one of the people this video is made for lol
Like I said before:
After riding for about 5 years I owned 5 different bikes (Cruiser, Standard and Sport Touring but never a Super-sport) the reason why so many is because none of them made me really happy/smile while riding it so I kept getting different ones in the hope to find one I like so I would keep it for years. I know that is very stupid and expensive no matter how good of a deal I get.
And currently I have a Honda VTX 1800 (a cruisrer) which I will keep for two up riding and a 2010 VFR1200 F (sport touring) which is really fast bike and I removed the power restrictions in the first and second gear, increased the RPM limit setting, eliminated the top speed limiter in 5th and 6th gear etc. and it's even faster now....
But for some reason I never felt connected if you know what I mean with any of the bikes I had in the past? Is it me? Am I broken lol? Or maybe I didn't find that perfect bike?
" CycleCruza said that I haven't found the perfect bike yet" :) which I think it's true 100%.
For some reason I could never connect with that bike (no grin/excitement/fun factor/happiness if any while riding it and all the bikers should know that I'm talking about) and I know that is weird because like I said everyone loves their VFR's!
So I question myself from time to time if it's me or what? I have no clue to be honest...
I am afraid I may regret it later but there is only one way to find out. So I posted it up for sale/trade finally and I'm planning on getting a Honda CBR600RR or CBR10000RR (which I can't find new anywhere for a good deal like CycleCruza did) and hopefully that direct explosiveness of the inline 4 will cure my strange cravings?!
I think I'm looking for a bike that scares me? As crazy as that sounds...
I will be making my decision soon. ?
Thank you in advance
Make sure to get the 2007 and newer cbr600rr, the 2006 and older cbr600rr are all top end and have weak mid-range power. For the cbr1000rr, skip the 2008 model because they had some oil burning issues that model and some of the 2009's. Best of luck!
CycleCruza I currently ride a 2010 Honda VFR 1200 and it is a sport-touring but I am looking for something that is not as heavy but with lots of power. Originally I was hoping that a 600cc would do for the streets since I'm not into track ridding at all.
Well today I had an opportunity to test ride a 2009 CBR 600RR (with an intention to take it home right after and have it in my garage tonight) and a 2005 Yamaha R1 at the same dealer.
The CBR felt great and I have no complaints at all just like CycleCruza has always said in his videos! Very comfortable, great position my legs in the right place around the tank etc. I really couldn't ask for much more in that CBR Double RRRRRRRRRR :)
However not enough power in my opinion, for some reason not that fast when you open the throttle all the way (keep in mind that I have never owned supper sport). And in my mind it is a deal breaker :(
The R1 on the other hand was like a rocket and has so much power that keeps your adrenaline flowing fast and it's simply awesome and I loved it. The only thing I didn't like is the leaning forward too much.
After the test ride for a few minutes I wanted to buy R1 but the seating and comfort is important and that's why I didn't :(
So I have to test ride CBR1000 RR, Suzuki GSXR 750 and a Kawasaki ZX636R (which I don't think it will be much more powerful than a 600cc but I will test drive it for sure before I spend my hard earn money) and make my decision on what to get. The R6 is out due to low power and too much leaning forward needed.
It seems like that with my VFR1200 I'm used to or immune to the power that I need something very torque to notice a difference and to satisfy my strange cravings....
eslc eslc Cool to hear your feedback. for street riding the 600rr is a lot of power but if you are a high octane person than a liter will probably be best suited for you. The 2008+ cbr1000rr is lighter and a tick faster than the R1 and the cbr1000rr has smoother fueling from what I hear. Also, the cbr1000rr is more comfortable except the 2014 and new models , they lowered the bars a bit and moved the rear sets up higher for a more track oriented riding position. let me know how you like the cbr1000rr.
Thank you for the quick response. I really want a Honda 1000 RR.To be honest stepping down as far as power from my 1200cc's (and I do realize my VFR is not a super-sport) I probably shouldn't bother with Suzuki GSXR 750 or the Kawaski ZX 636?!
eslc eslc Price wise there are still some left over 2013 cbr1000rr to be had for cheap. Test ride the 636 and 750 too but you may enjoy the cbr1000rr more. Skip the 2014 because honda changed the ergos to more aggressive track riding position.
I have CBR 500R, it's almost a month old and I'm thinking of getting a 600 bike. First I want to get R6 but now you've convinced me so much to get CBR 600 doubble Rrrrr!!!
Great video. I agree the Honda CBR 600 is a fierce competitor in the 600 series that is undermined. The R6 is the sexiest to me personally. Once the R6 is flashed the bike opens up on the road. I love your white and black theme on the CBR 600. If I decide to not go liter bike my current options are CBR 600, GSXR 750, and Triumph Daytona 675. The triumph has fuel gauge, gear indicator, steering damper, abs brakes, and if you go with r version it has ohlins suspension. Your videos are solid and I enjoy seeing things from your prospective. If I want to learn about Hondas I come to your channel. Some people may undermine your position since you stick to one brand. Truth is the Honda motorcycle vlogger community is pretty minimal. Your insight is appreciated.
Thanks. For me reliability takes precedence because I'd rather be riding than fixing or wasting time of my life at a dealership or mechanic. The CBR600rr has proven itself to be the most reliable supersport ever made with no known issues, which is very rare, usually every bike has some sort of issue. The R6 can be flashed but it's still an uncomfortable bike and even flashed it's still doesn't have as strong mid-range power as the cbr600rr. However, at the end of the day you get the bike that best suits your needs and that you are happy riding. Best of luck!
You should try to be a bit more unbiased. Just say you like Honda the best and don't have any data or factual evidence outside of personal preference.
Here are the facts and downlow on the current gen Supersport bikes:
1. Reliability: I ride a '13 ZX6R but data says the most reliable brand is Yamaha.
2. The strongest mid-range is the '13+ Zx6R, then the GSX-R, then the 600RR and last is the R6. Dyno sheets prove this.
3. Comfort. That goes to the GSX-R due to higher clip ons, lower seat 32 inches as opposed to the 600RR at 32.3" and the GSX-R has the plushes/softest seat
4. The undertail exhaust? Really? It has a tendency to heat up the seat, google it.
5. A removable tank cover? Umm, the ZX6R comes with easy to manipulate compression and rebound on the two front forks which is more functional thank a tank cover.
6. I laugh at how the fuel gauge is somehow more important, than say, ABS or traction control.
Lastly, if you want the most "comfortable" supersport, get the GSX-R due to it's seat height, clip ons, and plushness of the seat. If you want a track weapon, get the R6 because it has no power/torque down low. If you want the best of both worlds and most technologically up to date bike, get the ZX6R.
Also, the ZX6R has won more Moto-USA 600cc Supersport Shootouts than any other 600 bike and there's a reason for that. But carry on.
Suzuki sucks ass. They aren't made with love.
true
+Touhoua Yang Very nicely put mate. I cant freaking wait til I get a 636. And to go with the already good low end torque I'm going to get a power commander to liven it up even further :D
Very good points, kawasaki green is yuck. I love my Black 2018 gsxr750
Gsxr is all around the best bike
Totally agree. I got my cbr 600 double r in 2007. Still got it
Im sold. Thank you for making my decision easier. Subbed
I own a 2006 CBR 600rr that i use for track days and occasional street riding and this bike has been maintenance free and it can keep up with the litre bikes on the race track. Honda is the best bike on the planet for fit and finish, you will not find a better built bike! Ive been riding for over 40 years and have owned Yamaha, Kawasaki and Suzuki street bikes and dirt bikes and ill tell from experience you cant go wrong with a Honda! My 600 quarter mile pass was 10.84 127 mph with me riding it and it is a very competitive and reliable machine. Great vid BTW!
Hey CC, great videos man i like how you state the facts. You should do the same type of vid comparing the 1000cc Japanese superbikes!
THIS IS AWESOME!! CycleCruza This helped!! All the motorvloggers talk about what bike you should get and it all depends but all you're giving us the facts and that's refreshing!! Thanks man!
Say it with me Z X 6 R. First time I've ever heard someone call it a zedex 6r. Great vid very informative.
My son wants my 500r to have and learn on so I'll be in the market soon to buy another moto. This was very informative. Thanks again. I really enjoyed this video.
Yoo u still alive?
I have a 15 GSXR 750. It has never failed to start or run. I love that thing like do my wife and son.
I'm convinced, I'm saving up for my first bike and I decided on the cbr600rr, thanks for the bid and all the info
Just got a 06 zx6r as my first big bike. Can't wait.
Got one too
Low end midrange power isn't too good
now the comfort part i dont agree. have a 08 r6 and an 08 600rr, the yam at 75 mph cruising i get no vibration in the hands, my cbr at 75 vibration into the hands after about 35-40 minutes i have to stop. i can ride my r6 all day. And... yes i have had my cbr in and checked over 3 times. still vibrates. same tires on both. cbr does have more street able power, the r6 is a screemer
I have owned the Honda 600, Kawasaki 600, Suzuki 600, my favorite bike is Suzuki gsxr, sold the Honda and the Kawasaki, also have M109R 1800cc Suzuki, Suzuki's are the best Japanese bikes
can you say why? i have a gsxr600 but am looking at a 600rr now
@@javiergutierrezjr2641 because they are all hot bikes, i want them all to,can't help it
I've just upgraded my 2006 600rr to the 2014 zx636 ninja and all I have to say is holy moly the ninja is way better in every way, I loved my rr but I had no idea the ninja is the best hands down. It could of done with a clock and fuel gage tho tbh lol
Of course a bike that is 8 years newer is better, no matter the brand.
As always great video. I have always been a fan of Honda and what drew me to the 600 rr was the undertail exhaust.
Hi CycleCruza am completely blown away with you vids and you are right cbr's are the best sport bikes...
Great Video. You stated the facts and gave your opinion. No one can argue with that.
nice info man! your channel is the best channel i seen out there for bikes.
I think it comes down to preference and what works for the person. My 2 cents is to do diligence in research on all the bikes in the class and find what suits you. Maybe it will be the cbr.
just bought a 2016 harley 48 was in love with it at first but. got a few buddies that have sport bikes..and now I wanna trade mine in....have always been a Honda Dan so definitely looking at the cbr 600rr....
As usual I appreciate your joking approach to things and that you don't pretend to hide your bias. My first bike was a Ninja 650 so if I'm not going "Euro" I lean towards the green machine. But still dug hearing your facts side-by-side. When you guys thaw out in OH have fun out there and keep it rubber side down.
Couldn't agree more. I have a 2007 CBR600 and it's just bad ass. Best sport bike I've ridden.
Check any professional or amateur club racing since 2010 and the top 10 riders ride R6...maybe a ZX6 every now and then. CBR6 is maybe a better bike for reliability and comfort on the street. But all supersport bikes were designed for the track...not the street.
Is the footage of the manufacturing you showed in the video available on yt? I'd like to watch that
Pretty good video. I have to say, my favorite bike is still the ZX6R. But the CBR is next which the other bikes far behind. You gave lots of information. Awesome! ;)
zx6r is a great bike, they improved the mid-range greatly in 2009. I know a lot of riders who love that bike. Really, all of the japanese bikes are great bikes, it's just comes down to personal preferences and what you are using the bike for.
I want em all.......
Great job with all the facts I have had a cbr 600rr and it is by far the best bike I have ever owned honda has the best quality hands down. I ride a 07 gsxr 600 right now and the power on it is right up there with the Honda the biggest difference for me is the comfort, night and day difference. Great review 👍
I have a gsxr 600 and I want a 750 but the cbrs looks enticing, great video
-what is the difference between 2007-2008 honda cbr 600 and 2009-2014 model ?
Good video. I’m on my second 600rr. Love them! I do remember that there was a recall for the stator something-or-other back around 2009-2010. Was it for the 1000? Can’t remember.
I currently ride a 2010 Honda VFR 1200 and it is a sport-touring but I am looking for something that is not as heavy but with lots of power. Originally I was hoping that a 600cc would do for the streets since I'm not into track ridding at all.
Well today I had an opportunity to test ride a 2009 CBR 600RR (with an intention to take it home right after and have it in my garage tonight) and a 2005 Yamaha R1 at the same dealer.
The CBR felt great and I have no complaints at all just like CycleCruza has always said in his videos! Very comfortable, great position my legs in the right place around the tank etc. I really couldn't ask for much more in that CBR Double RRRRRRRRRR :)
However not enough power in my opinion, for some reason not that fast when you open the throttle all the way (keep in mind that I have never owned supper sport). And in my mind it is a deal breaker :(
The R1 on the other hand was like a rocket and has so much power that keeps your adrenaline flowing fast and it's simply awesome and I loved it. The only thing I didn't like is the leaning forward too much.
After the test ride for a few minutes I wanted to buy R1 but the seating and comfort is important and that's why I didn't :(
So I have to test ride CBR1000 RR, Suzuki GSXR 750 and a Kawasaki ZX636R (which I don't think it will be much more powerful than a 600cc but I will test drive it for sure before I spend my hard earn money) and make my decision on what to get. The R6 is out due to low power and too much leaning forward needed.
It seems like that with my VFR1200 I'm used to or immune to the power that I need something very torque to notice a difference and to satisfy my strange cravings....
Guys believe it or not, it is really a nice bike and i just love riding it everyday. i think it got great balance between performance, comfort and build quality. Honda knows how to make bikes. A new owner from Macau
6 years old but it's helped me make my mind up so thanks for the help 👍
On another note I like how you hold preference for a bike and yet provide a good review on the other bikes out there.
Sold me on the R6. I prefer track performance when comparing bikes that are meant for the track
even tho i like the kawaski and i was wondering between it and the r6 and i was looking for precisely which one is easier for maintenance, i have to say you made me love the cbr600rr and thank you for the full review of all the bikes.
better than a lot of people on youtube where they just be sitting on their bike and talking
I LOVE Honda. My Dirtbike is an 03 CRF450r (never had ANY motor issues with 200 hours of RACE HOURS on the motor with NO valves adjustments, starts in one or two kicks) I talked my buddy into buying a 2002 CR250r (two stroke motocross bike) has had ZERO issues. My first rocket was a 2001 CBR929rr, only had to replace the stator in 7k miles, nothing else. And now my 2007 CBR1000rr, the Previous Owner was my buddy, and he never had ANY troubles with it. Honda is just amazing.
Great video Cruza. Very informative. You've proved your points, but alot of people will stick to the brands they like no matter what you show them or say. But hey, me and you are on Hondas, we'll ride right past them while their on the side of the road :)
Cool to hear! I was just stating why I chose the cbr600rr based on the facts presented but people have their own preferences. All of the japanese bikes are good bikes though.
CycleCruza Yeah they're all amazing bikes, but the only one that gets set apart from the rest is the CBR personally. I just feel like a CBR has more personality so say then the other bikes I've ever ridden.
All damn day!
Had an 09 cbr600rr. Solid mechanically, but buggy electronically. Now have a 2014 gsxr600.... never happier
You must have bought it used and the previous screwed with the stock wiring. That's why I avoid messing with stock wiring.
Faulty rectifiers on Suzukis has been a pain in the ass way back since '99 (if not earlier). I experienced the issue on my 1st gen SV650s, Luckily, I was in the city and didn't have to call a toll truck.
Cbr600rr = middleweight Champion 🏆 🥇 🏅......love this honest , factual, informative review....Great work Cyclecruza 👏 👍 👌
I bought my r6 2007 version because it was my bike dream love. Its a beast
One thing you failed to mention, however, is seat height and body position. I'm 6' 3 so it automatically rules out the CBR600rr due to the fact my knees breach the top of the tank, with both feet on the pegs. Not a pleasant riding position.
First thing I recognized when sitting on a cbr! The comfort
I had almost completely made up my mind to get the 600rr when I upgrade, but this just solidified my choice. Thanks
I have the black graffiti 2008 and it rocks. Usable power for ultimate street fun. And comfortable, though my former 2004 gsx600r was just as light, just as comfortable and arguably more of an intuitive in corners and fast bends.
Best bike I've ever owned and wish to buy again: Honda Sp2. Nothing else like it that I've ever rode.
You forgot to mention that there are also options with ABS available after some year. For me it is a major reason to buy it.
Good review btw
After watching this video i'm sold on buying a cbarrhh 600 double arrhh!
Why so many dislikes!? very good quality video with alot of valuable information across all spectrums
Great review, gonna have to pick up the CBR :). You forgot to mention how it was the best looking too
I got a 2006 cbr 600rr and I can agree , it's a great bike 10/10. Not to say the others are bad but I love my cbr.
Love my 2016 CBR600RR!!!! Best bike on the markey
Great video, definitely want one and gonna do everything I can to get a clean low mileage red 07+ cbr600rr
We all know your opinion nothing else will run forever besides a Honda.
I never said that. lol There are many old kawasaki bikes on the road. If you maintain any japanese bike it should last a long time but hondas are known to get more than 100k miles if maintained well. There is a dude on youtube with a cbr600f4i with over 300k miles on it.
Yes i know but you have a super biased opinion and i already know what it is before watching your vids lol. I like them tho not trying to be rude:) No issues with my 2014 gsxr600 yet so im happy lol.
BTW how come you didnt make me win the heated grips i moved to the mountains WTF!!! :P
david carlson I didn't say anything bad about the gsxr 600, I said it has good low and midrange power for a supersport. I just gave facts about the factory recalls and that it has low clip-ons compared to the cbr600rr and it has a painted tank which can be a pita if you want to change the paint scheme. Otherwise, the gsxr 600/750 are fine bikes. really, all of the japanese bikes are great bikes, it just depends on your preferences. I just listed my preferences in this video based on facts.
i know man. was just saying i love mine too.
Anyone disagreeing re watch the video. Depending on what you getting the bike for, CBR is the best option for the street and cheapest that holds its value.
Personally I have found that I actually like the ZX6R a little better l. To me it looks and feels a whole lot nicer. I'm not a huge fan of the undertail exhaust but I know some people love it. I think it looks better on the side. I have ridden all 4 bikes as well and I would say that the CBR is my number 2. I do own a ZX6R and have put roughly 5000 miles on it and I still have had no problems with it at all. It runs smooth and fits me perfect. Good video tho. That's just my opinion
CBr600rr and R6 both are great bikes but R6 has much better handleing and top spped R6 is better in many things but CBR 600RR is much more comfortable than any other in there list
not true the suzuki has nearly identical ergonomics as the cbr within mm. They are both very comfortable
i dont know about them
I seems you can't go wrong with the four brands mentioned, but awesome points on the Honda
CycleCruza, the channel you go to when you want nothing but bias reviews.
This is completely biased, you can find problems on any bike if you dig far enough. I have a cbr 954, and when it comes to the 600s I think the r6 is the best of the lot
lol I guess you missed all of the facts presented. These are the only biased opinions in this video: I said the cbr is the most comfortable, I like the under-tail exhaust and I think it's the best 600. Everything else presented in this video are facts.
Someones been hitting the heroin pretty hard hahaha r6 and best are two words that should never even be near each other. Ive owned 2 R6 and 2 CBRs. And R6 are the most hunk of shit bikes ever made. They fall apart once they reach 53k miles everything just breaks at once. They're uncomfortable as fuck. The have shit low end power. They look good and they got nice high end for the track that is it. for a street bike i rather right a fucking moped that ride a piece of shit r6. I have owned an 07 and 09 Unless they made the 10+ much more better or different nothing has changed. It is a shit bike for the street period. Track its a beast. CBR overall great bike for everything. Gsxr as well although reliability is alright. Kawi i would never touch cause they are fugly as hell bug eyed looking things But the ZX10R is pretty great except for looks imo keep in mind I've tracked/ridden both bikes equally as hard i have the right to say w/o biased. r6 looks/track thats it. CBR does everything right although 09-12 lack power which is just bullshit. and 13+ are fucking camaro looking things with sexy rims. You want a CBR 07-08. You want an r6 you better be a track day guy or your gonna have a bad time. they're good for pics and track. And sell it by 20k miles or else its just gonna be a hunk of shit.
TacoGP You hit the nail on the head, that's what I've been hearing from a lot of riders over the years. Many people gravitate towards the R6 because of it's looks but then after owning them for a while they realize it's not a great street bike.
R6Eric why the fuck is your username r6eric then?😂
R6Ericj
Ylyoy remind me of Dusty Rhodes, and that's a compliment
Awesome video. I have a 2021 cbr300r and am looking to upgrade or get a second bike 600 class. Love the cbr
Haha.. That's what I've been telling everybody. Cbr600rr is the best 600 out there. People are so stubborn.
the newer cbr 600rr has very different chassis, it's not just cosmetic changes, you didn't mention they changed the front suspension (which is a big change in a sports bike) with a showa big piston fork
08 cbr rr owner for two plus years and I love it
I truly respect your choice of machine. But im a gsxr guy through and through. I just recently added a second K1 to my small collection of SS and cruisers. It's kinda funny still but I have a 01 600 zx6r an k1 gsxr 600 lol!
your points are good especially the gsxr recalls including the frame welds on 1000cc and 600 cc gsxr which snap if enough force is put on it like wheelies or even potholes, however your points about this bike is so heavy or this bike is so much lighter is really off base. 10-15 pounds difference or even 25 pounds isnt much on a 400 sumo. the percentage difference is negligible. once you start taking 100 lbs off or at leat 50 pounds off thats when you start to see a little difference. I want a 500cc on a 225 lbs GROM, that's the best weight to power ratio
GREAT REVIEW !
NOW WE NEED A VIDEO ON SUPERSPORT'S
THANX GREAT MOTOVLOG CHANNEL
Billy Cordero All of these bikes ARE supersports....