Did they ever care about the rule of law? In their eyes it seems the law only applies to us peasants, and breaking the law (even if in a limited and specific way) is fine for them provided they benefit either politically or financially from it.
The ECHR is not a “foreign” court. It is an international court, of which we are a full member, that we help to run through our British representation on it. The law, any law, is simply the brick wall of reality, which you may not like but which you cannot simply wish away.
It's been pointed out elsewhere that to deport people to Rwanda you need planes. It's reported that no commercial airline will touch the contract with a barge pole, & the MOD aren't keen either.
La Cucaracha! I can't believe she KNEW that! Actually, hard to believe Sir Keir knew about that too but I suppose one could be aware of the joke without knowing its origins.
He does know about it: he just chooses to lie about it. This shameless cynicism is the prime reason why this odious little man needs to be out of office, out of Parliament, out of public life.
The rule of law is only relevant when it is beneficial or needed by those who r in power.. Always hv been such and always will be. Its not an uniquely any one country but since time immemorial universally.
The concept of the rule of law is that no one is above the law. It is steeped in the Magna Carta and the limiting of the arbitrary power of government.
@@peterbarry4112 it is never the question of the law (laws) itself but the application of it to certain class of people.. There has always been a double standard tht seems to exclude the ruling elites and their circles until it no longer viable to the grp as a whole to do so. Throughout history, laws and its enforcement (military, royal/King's guard) was to safe guard the monarchy and keep the population in check. Once many countries dispensed of their eir absolute monarchy, the military duties transfered to the new ruling class and the royal guards became the police which safe guarded the ruling class ie the administration and elected leaders. The law and the police were never abt service to the people.
The Tories were happy to be “the party of law and order” when the law was mainly enforced to maintain the property and safety of richest in society. Where facets of law now focus on concepts like equality and human rights, this is not as palatable. So now they are trying to undo these new laws, or ignore them totally. They need to convince the proles that this in their own interests, they hope to do it by appealing to bigotry and fear. With the power and reach of the right-wing media, they may yet do it.
Not one person will be sent to Rwanda. Will refugees who have risked their lives and spent their life savings getting to Dover be deterred by the very slim possibility of being sent to Rwanda - a less than 2% chance? No. Are any aircraft available for these two way deportation flights? No. Two way because taking into account the returns agreement, the net numbers will remain the same as we ferry Rwandans back to the UK. Even if aircraft are tracked down, there will be mass protests against these flights at Boscombe Down, or wherever they might depart from. So has the perimeter been secured to cope with protestors, and if so, how many more millions have been spent on security? Come on Mr Sunhat, what's the REAL motive behind this unworkable plan? Is it to enable you to shamelessly blame Labour for vowing to do what is morally and legally right in promising to bin this revoltingly dishonest and hugely expensive ruse? Or to blame the "unelected House of Lords" for injecting commonsense and pragmatism into an unworkable, illegal and spurious ploy? Yeah right, point accusing fingers at the Lords, where the CONservatives have a 100 seat majority! Or is this a delaying tactic to buy enough time to clinch a lucrative UK/India/Infosys trade deal before being forced out of office? Or to provoke a handful of refugees to the point of despair so they appeal against being sent to an unsafe autocracy? Whereupon the government will pounce at the excuse to overrule UK and International courts when they attempt to do their duty in upholding the rule of law and imparting humanitarian justice? Is it part of a surreptitious plan to further erode the Separation of Powers? Another step towards deregulation? For example, if the government weaken the independence of the Judiciary by overruling, bullying or bypassing the courts over matters of asylum law, they'll feel free to do exactly the same for employment law. Maternity leave, paid leave, working hours directives, minimum wages, health and safety obligations, human rights - all very costly and totally anathema to the concept of high profit "de-regulated" Free Ports and SEZs. We see the real motives behind this Rwanda debacle - not all of us have been brainwashed by the Daily Whatevers. The polls show that the clear 'will of the people' is not to clamour for specious Rwandan ruses. The undeniable 'will of the people' is actually for Mr Rich Sunhat to call the removals lorry and vacate No. 10.
You suggest a lot of plausible reasons for this nonsense, but I think it's this one: "is this a delaying tactic to buy enough time to clinch a lucrative UK/India/Infosys trade deal before being forced out of office?"
The lyrics at 3:40 aren't about 2 blad men fighting over a comb, it's close . When a man loves a woman But she doesn't love him back It's like a bald man Finding a comb in the street But it could be an alternative verse
“ foreign “ court is there favourite line , including the gnome sunak …. It’s an international court to which the uk has signed up to and has as much influence as anyone else ……
You get close to the point half way through but just missed it. The purpose of the Rwanda gimmick is precisely to push public sentiment towards the UK joining Russia and Bellorusia outside the Council of Europe. That is the consequence of our refusal to abide by our international commitments and agreements in relation to the rights that protect ordinary Britains.
I like this show but it's really frustrating when these "daily uploads" are actually repeats of bits from 3 days ago. These days news ceases to be news after 3 days.
I love the News Agents, but am I alone in thinking they are behind the news cycle a bit? This video was put up Friday lunchtime but was obviously recorded 24 hours earlier. Why does it take so long?
Probably because it's the only thing he's talked about for the last few months and he'll probably be booted out before a flight even takes off. Making him look very silly indeed
But since Parliament is the sovereign power in this nation whatever it says becomes the 'rule of law'. If Parliament decides that the ECHR isn't in our interests then it can either ignore it or formally withdraw from it.
If the uk breaks international law it breaks international law that’s why rawanda has said it will not accept refugees where international law has been broken, sad when a foreign country has better understanding of law than Uk
Iran attacked Jaish Aladl, because of a suicide attack in Iran City of Kermaan that killed 85+ people and 200 injured, this attacked was hardly mentioned in the West. Same here they did not mention it. So poor journalism
Did they ever care about the rule of law? In their eyes it seems the law only applies to us peasants, and breaking the law (even if in a limited and specific way) is fine for them provided they benefit either politically or financially from it.
Thank you Emily for clarifying the purpose of the ECHR.
The ECHR is not a “foreign” court. It is an international court, of which we are a full member, that we help to run through our British representation on it. The law, any law, is simply the brick wall of reality, which you may not like but which you cannot simply wish away.
The sooner there’s a change of government the better also they just care about themselves and not the rule of law
It's been pointed out elsewhere that to deport people to Rwanda you need planes. It's reported that no commercial airline will touch the contract with a barge pole, & the MOD aren't keen either.
If no planes are available then they can get back into their boats and paddle there.
Difficult, it's a landlocked country@@vatsmith8759
@@vatsmith8759You are aware that Rwanda is land-locked? No, of course you aren't.
@@realhorrorshow8547 What has that got to do with the price of fish?
@@vatsmith8759 Back under your bridge troll.
La Cucaracha! I can't believe she KNEW that! Actually, hard to believe Sir Keir knew about that too but I suppose one could be aware of the joke without knowing its origins.
The Tories don't care about any of us full stop.
Totally agree
The Tory Party had so much hope for Sunak. It has been a false hope. He has fallen like a stone in water. With no idea how deep it is.
Can we have more singing from Emily please? You could have a new section called “Music with Maitlis”!
They NEVER cared unless it's laws they make.
they didnt care about the lockdown laws they made
every day, with evert word he utters Sunak shows his incompetence
Absolute disgrace , the sooner they are out of office the better
Emily should record La Cucaracha for fun and/or charity. The boys could shake their maracas in the background 😉
he should be asked the question...are you ready to be arrested for breaking international law....
"It's going to get through". But is it going to happen? £400m says it won't.
Stopped caring? When did they ever start ?
These three ❤
It's appalling how the rule of law is smashed. We need a proper constitution. The ECHR isn't foreign. I'm horrified at the conduct of this government.
One law for us. Another for them. ‘Twas always thus.
Sunak should know that all barristers follow cab rank rule or Sunak is too thick to know that
He does know about it: he just chooses to lie about it. This shameless cynicism is the prime reason why this odious little man needs to be out of office, out of Parliament, out of public life.
The rule of law is only relevant when it is beneficial or needed by those who r in power.. Always hv been such and always will be. Its not an uniquely any one country but since time immemorial universally.
The concept of the rule of law is that no one is above the law. It is steeped in the Magna Carta and the limiting of the arbitrary power of government.
@@peterbarry4112 it is never the question of the law (laws) itself but the application of it to certain class of people.. There has always been a double standard tht seems to exclude the ruling elites and their circles until it no longer viable to the grp as a whole to do so. Throughout history, laws and its enforcement (military, royal/King's guard) was to safe guard the monarchy and keep the population in check. Once many countries dispensed of their eir absolute monarchy, the military duties transfered to the new ruling class and the royal guards became the police which safe guarded the ruling class ie the administration and elected leaders. The law and the police were never abt service to the people.
The lower courts are a nightmare. Untrained JP's issuing warrants. Special Courts without juris prudence, or public hearings or transparency.
I appreciated Emily's beautiful singing voice (and excellent spanish)
The Tories were happy to be “the party of law and order” when the law was mainly enforced to maintain the property and safety of richest in society. Where facets of law now focus on concepts like equality and human rights, this is not as palatable. So now they are trying to undo these new laws, or ignore them totally. They need to convince the proles that this in their own interests, they hope to do it by appealing to bigotry and fear. With the power and reach of the right-wing media, they may yet do it.
When did they start?
Not one person will be sent to Rwanda. Will refugees who have risked their lives and spent their life savings getting to Dover be deterred by the very slim possibility of being sent to Rwanda - a less than 2% chance? No. Are any aircraft available for these two way deportation flights? No. Two way because taking into account the returns agreement, the net numbers will remain the same as we ferry Rwandans back to the UK. Even if aircraft are tracked down, there will be mass protests against these flights at Boscombe Down, or wherever they might depart from. So has the perimeter been secured to cope with protestors, and if so, how many more millions have been spent on security? Come on Mr Sunhat, what's the REAL motive behind this unworkable plan? Is it to enable you to shamelessly blame Labour for vowing to do what is morally and legally right in promising to bin this revoltingly dishonest and hugely expensive ruse? Or to blame the "unelected House of Lords" for injecting commonsense and pragmatism into an unworkable, illegal and spurious ploy? Yeah right, point accusing fingers at the Lords, where the CONservatives have a 100 seat majority! Or is this a delaying tactic to buy enough time to clinch a lucrative UK/India/Infosys trade deal before being forced out of office? Or to provoke a handful of refugees to the point of despair so they appeal against being sent to an unsafe autocracy? Whereupon the government will pounce at the excuse to overrule UK and International courts when they attempt to do their duty in upholding the rule of law and imparting humanitarian justice? Is it part of a surreptitious plan to further erode the Separation of Powers? Another step towards deregulation? For example, if the government weaken the independence of the Judiciary by overruling, bullying or bypassing the courts over matters of asylum law, they'll feel free to do exactly the same for employment law. Maternity leave, paid leave, working hours directives, minimum wages, health and safety obligations, human rights - all very costly and totally anathema to the concept of high profit "de-regulated" Free Ports and SEZs. We see the real motives behind this Rwanda debacle - not all of us have been brainwashed by the Daily Whatevers. The polls show that the clear 'will of the people' is not to clamour for specious Rwandan ruses. The undeniable 'will of the people' is actually for Mr Rich Sunhat to call the removals lorry and vacate No. 10.
You suggest a lot of plausible reasons for this nonsense, but I think it's this one: "is this a delaying tactic to buy enough time to clinch a lucrative UK/India/Infosys trade deal before being forced out of office?"
85% done a Runner 😂
Laws are for the little people to obey. #partygate
Leading his party straight over a cliff. #ToryWipeout
Love this channel.
I suppose the Taxi rank rule in British law would be worth a mention.
Ever since Thatcher got into power; the tories have all been inspired to be like her in one way or another!
The Tories have gone all in US Republicans. They have been taken advice/orders from the republicans since Thatcher.
Jeremy Paxman is looking so confident since he transitioned and dyed his hair. I’m so happy for him/her
They have definitely not cared since boris entered parliament
I think not since D. Cameron became PM.
The lyrics at 3:40 aren't about 2 blad men fighting over a comb, it's close .
When a man loves a woman
But she doesn't love him back
It's like a bald man
Finding a comb in the street
But it could be an alternative verse
Actually, I think he was paraphrasing Borges who said of the Falklands war that Argentina and Britain were like 2 bald men fighting over a comb.
We want to put Emily in the studio - record her lead vocal, singing a power rock track...🥰
“ foreign “ court is there favourite line , including the gnome sunak …. It’s an international court to which the uk has signed up to and has as much influence as anyone else ……
Everyone is a foreigner because of national borders. The planet is the home with many little rooms full of children.
In the description it says 'it can get it's Rwanda bill'. Whoever is paying your salaries please hire a literate person.
You're the only person in the world that cares
My point exactly. @@Shsjier
Think Tanks 😅😅 They're just lobby groups
They didn’t for a long time
It might be funny but what a terrible way to run a country! Thanks for the opera!
I'm not sure the Tories have their heads in the sand, it's up somewhere far dirtier.
I for one certainly wouldn't trust the Tories with human rights. JRM would have kids back up the chimneys in no time...
You get close to the point half way through but just missed it. The purpose of the Rwanda gimmick is precisely to push public sentiment towards the UK joining Russia and Bellorusia outside the Council of Europe. That is the consequence of our refusal to abide by our international commitments and agreements in relation to the rights that protect ordinary Britains.
Did they ever care about the rule of law!?
are there any honest politicians left in Britain
I like this show but it's really frustrating when these "daily uploads" are actually repeats of bits from 3 days ago. These days news ceases to be news after 3 days.
Do you think a leadership contest is bubbling under the surface? .
The Better Call Keir ad is a bit gimmicky. It’s not really a proper political campaign. I don’t think Starmer need worry.
Welcome to three days ago.... 🙄
Maybe only two days, but still a long time.
We're there really less immigrants post ww2 and during the crumbling of the worlds empires and civil wars? 😂
Can we all chip in and get Lewis a haircut?
I love the News Agents, but am I alone in thinking they are behind the news cycle a bit? This video was put up Friday lunchtime but was obviously recorded 24 hours earlier. Why does it take so long?
They put these out on their Spotify podcast first. It's delayed release on YT.
Could you please explain to this dunce how getting the rwanda plan through will have weakened sunak? Surely he would see this as a victory?
Probably because he has to expend so much political capital to get it through
Probably because it's the only thing he's talked about for the last few months and he'll probably be booted out before a flight even takes off. Making him look very silly indeed
But since Parliament is the sovereign power in this nation whatever it says becomes the 'rule of law'. If Parliament decides that the ECHR isn't in our interests then it can either ignore it or formally withdraw from it.
If the uk breaks international law it breaks international law that’s why rawanda has said it will not accept refugees where international law has been broken, sad when a foreign country has better understanding of law than Uk
@@johnbutcher2587 Rwanda needs international aid so cannot stand up for itself.
Starmer is reading from a script, a telltale sign that he is a puppet
Iran attacked Jaish Aladl, because of a suicide attack in Iran City of Kermaan that killed 85+ people and 200 injured, this attacked was hardly mentioned in the West. Same here they did not mention it.
So poor journalism
Stopped? This current bunch never started!