Thinner paste application won't lower the temps. Go too thin and temps go up (not enough contact). Add too much paste and it just spills out to the sides (doesn't negatively impact thermals). Always better to add too much than too little.
Dude. I'm not even fucking kidding. I bought a 12700K YESTERDAY and searched "best thermal paste frame chasers" and was so sad when you didn't have a video. LMAO. I just got Kryonaut because it seemed like a safe choice. I think the cost is really not even a factor. What's $3.50 vs. $10 when you're installing a $300+ CPU edit: was able to cancel my order and used your link to try the Zezzio
The usual approach to make such hard paste more "fluid" and easier to spread out, is to leave the tube in hot water for 3-5 minutes before application, like it was done back in the day with ic-diamond one.
Is the Zezzio the same as SYY-157? SYY-157 is basically Thermaltake TFX in terms of performance, longevity, texture, etc. but for a fraction of the cost. It's insane how good it is. I went from Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut to SYY-157 with my 10900KF and 11900KF and have never looked back.
I use Cooler Master Cryofuze thermal paste with 14 W/m-K thermal conductivity. Keeps my Ryzen 7 5800X running at 52*C avg playing Halo Infinite multiplayer, and my Ryzen 9 5900X running at 62*C avg playing Halo Infinite multiplayer. Running Cinebench R23, my 5800X never goes past 69*C, and my 5900X never goes past 78*C.
Let me tell you what Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut did to my AMD FX-9590. (A hot running 220w CPU)... I couldn't figure out what was going on but it kept powering itself . I finally sat in front of the machine, and started another Android system build . It powered off at 90. It totally mangled, pitted and eroded the base of the water block on my Hydro Series Corsair H110 Extreme AIO and I'm pretty sure the extreme heat killed my pump . I was going to mill that copper plate, but finding the rhe blown punp its like what's the point? I've got a new AIO ayarem and baseplate on rhe way, and at some point I may play with liquid metals . That machine has built at LEAST 600 Custom Android System Images at full power++ and never gave me a bit of trouble, till last week ASUS Crosshair- V Formula - G , 32GB G.Skill RipJaws DDR3 (2166) and six (6) 2TB Seagate Barracudas behind an LSI-2960-8i in RAID-5. (Root disk is a 4T Qestern Digital 7200RPM (Black) spinner. I can't believe what rhat did to the pump. It wasnt 'Extreme', just plain Kryonaut, and a couple people mentioned that they released some bad paste a few times, but I'll spend a bit more on paste rather than spending $250+ on an AIO Cooler. I'll never buy Thermal Grizzly anything again. I'm going to give Cooler Master's MasterGel Pro2 a go this time.
Thermal cycling causes a pumping action that can destroy the integrity of the thermal paste application. I wonder if the cryonauts are more resistant to thermal pumping, hence the slightly higher temperature but would be better used in a long-term build?
@Ryan Mah Same, I was really hoping to see the Arctic MX5, especially now that a 20g tube is so value oriented. I really don't mind buying those ultra expensive thermal paste, except that it seems, at least with the Kryonaut, that people complain the the longevity. As Jufes usually says, for family and friends I would rather keep it 'grandma friendly' and use something like the MX5 so I can paste and forget. For my own use I probably wouldn't mind using something more "premium" even if it means repasting every 6-12 months for optimal temps.
@@dafunk420 that's awesome to hear, I'm currently building a custom hard tubing loop and was thinking of using the mx4/5 (probably I'll get the mx5 since the price difference is negligence for me at least)
They are garbage. They have bad batches all the time they recall, they separate over time and they degrade over time. 6 months you'll have 5-10 degrees worse than when you first install.
I’m using KPX on CPU and MX-4 in PS4-3 cheaply laptops it works good for that stuff but for a Ryzen 9 5900X that’s turbo past it’s rated 4.8Ghz on its own I figured I would get some paste for overclocking like the KPX I have 3 cores that are hitting 5ghz at time the rest tend to run at around 4.89 and like I said I have OC’d this chip at all it’s stock, multi-core was 20063 on cenenbebench like 137Pts off the best Ryzen 5900X build they have catalogued in there library and I know it’s OC’d
Some say Zezzio ZT-GX and SYY-157 are the same and both are similar to TFX (like a little less dry TFX). If you do a next test some time, you should try out the new Coolermaster CryFuze, it's a great paste imho.
Good comparison, & I didn't know about the Zezzio. I'm using Conductonaut for my CPU but this is good info for when I replace GPU air cooling with a water block.
Turpentine will work to thin pastes out. I use it for all my paste applications if the paste is not flowing too well. It makes the contact 100%. It can even revive paste if it has dried out, so you can add less new paste. Just stir one or two drops into the paste with a glove on and the mount will be perfect. Be careful not to spill the stuff, don't let the mixture leak into your PC.
really found this video helpful since i just bought regular kryonaught on sale, gonna see whats up with zezzio. would've been cool too to see how it compared to liquid metal as well. and that intro haha
Why do you use the putty instead of a paste for the gpu gddr6x? I assume for copper shim it’s to hold it in place.. but you used thermal pads and putty, so I don’t get it.
Great comparison vid! thank you for spending the time to test...from what I heard, the KPX seems to lose its performance pretty fast after about 6 months or so. I've been using kryonaut but will be ordering zezzio to try next! Thanks again for uploading
No it doesn’t I have a rig that has had it in there for two years and the thermals are the same as they were at the beginning. What you heard is people knocking on a product because they think more money is better and they need to justify the money they spent.
I also can confirm that Kingpin for two years has been fine. You have to make sure you use the plastic spatula and spread it. I also apply a small bead in the center after I spread it and never had the temps rise after two years. So in short, spread the paste then add a small bead in the center that will compress down when cooler is placed on top of it.
Any real differences in these pastes should be pretty minor unless one of them is straight up lying. You're not going to get a super reliable indicator of which one has the highest heat conductivity with such a short test. You need to have a known thickness of paste and heatload. The cpu works well but the overall testing methodology is "uncontrolled" for the differences you wish to measure. The "best" paste will give the best results in all use cases and applications. IE it's foolproof to apply and works well. The paste that takes this crown? Kryonaut and likely noctua nt-h2 for a thicker option. To accomplish this you can't have a super thick paste. This is why thinner pastes paradoxically work very well in the short term before "pump out" takes place. I would wager a guess that super thick paste actually performs the best but is very difficult to apply "correctly" thus leading people to conclude that it sucks. Which is also valid, but the reason for the conclusion is incorrect. My go to paste is syy-157. I've found it to be the best paste at a reasonable price. Is it the absolute best? Probably not but it's very close to the best. I can also assure you it's better than kryonaut especially for longevity. Cheaper as well. Issue is it's hard to apply as it's super thick. The trick it to spread it evenly and super thin. The stuff works absolute wonders in laptops. There are comments saying to warm it up in some water, but I'm not quite sure how much of a difference it would make. Something to test I guess. KPX is great but damn is it expensive. No thanks.
Zezzio has their extreme version and its great but expensive) thik pastes are great for modern gpus for non pump out effect. My 4070ti super drop 20° on a hotspot wich is crazy after repaste it with zezzio gsx-s.
KPX is amazing stuff. Tested KPX vs. Kryonaut last night and my hottest core went from a max temp of 81C with Kryonaut to 73C with the KPX. Room and coolant temp(31C) were exactly the same for each run. And the test was set to the extreme steady state mode for both 15 minute runs.
Jufes, why does that board have only 3 DIMMS? 3:40 That's the first board I've ever seen in that config lmao. EDIT: actually that third one doesn't even look like a DDR4 slot
How do you like those deepcool units? Was looking at them but sketchy because they used to have leak problems in their old units. Heard the new ones are made in same factory as cooler master AIOs tho.
Therefore, it is better to invest in phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950 and not worry about it drying up. Only every 6 months need to blow out the heatsink and clean the fan.
yo your tfx spread super easily! when i applied mine it was incredibly hard, i couldnt pull a second lane without pulling off the first lane, it was annoying. i used a blowdryer on the cpu/paste hoping it would make it easier. it did a little bit, but not by much.
It's supposed to be that way, because It's made for extreme temperatures especially laptops. And you don't need to replace it from 6 - 8 years. Very good paste for laptops if not the best
@@timcesnovar978 yeah i mean it was a pain in the butt (and i got paste on the cpu pins), but it worked and did help with the temps a but, probably around 5c less now on average.
That intro is fire 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 just started the video but in my experience kingpin is the best and I always get the best results with it but I only use custom loops not sure if that makes any difference.
Can u please do a video about a mid to low-end gpu on warzone I got a 1660 and I just want to stay above 75 fps till I save up enough for a 30series gpu Full specs I9-10850k oc 5ghz 4133 cl19 mhz 1.4v 16 gb ram Rog Z490 E motherboard Btw I love ur content I would appreciate it if u could make a video about mid teir gpus for wz
Thinner paste application won't lower the temps. Go too thin and temps go up (not enough contact). Add too much paste and it just spills out to the sides (doesn't negatively impact thermals). Always better to add too much than too little.
I personally deny all of this and will continue to use peanut butter as my go to paste. Maybe shitmix & peanut butter actually
call it shit butter?
It does work well
I can confirm this works. Been making home made natty peanut butter thermal paste for years since the Pentium III days.
Dude. I'm not even fucking kidding. I bought a 12700K YESTERDAY and searched "best thermal paste frame chasers" and was so sad when you didn't have a video. LMAO. I just got Kryonaut because it seemed like a safe choice. I think the cost is really not even a factor. What's $3.50 vs. $10 when you're installing a $300+ CPU
edit: was able to cancel my order and used your link to try the Zezzio
The usual approach to make such hard paste more "fluid" and easier to spread out, is to leave the tube in hot water for 3-5 minutes before application, like it was done back in the day with ic-diamond one.
Inside a plastic bag so it doesn't get wet
you will ruin your pasta to do that i guess
Balls-aching work im sure - thank you for your service
Been using KPX for about the last 6 months no complaints. Always used mx-4 before and its a world of difference.
Well shit, guess I’ll have to repaste now.
@@Kritter4life def worth imo
I hate arctic MX-4 too, I just get it free and it's better to purchase a new one.
FYI the kpx's formula got changed and its now borderline garbage and pumps out really fast.
@@kazuvikingthis. needs repasting every 6 months
Is the Zezzio the same as SYY-157? SYY-157 is basically Thermaltake TFX in terms of performance, longevity, texture, etc. but for a fraction of the cost. It's insane how good it is. I went from Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut to SYY-157 with my 10900KF and 11900KF and have never looked back.
I use Cooler Master Cryofuze thermal paste with 14 W/m-K thermal conductivity. Keeps my Ryzen 7 5800X running at 52*C avg playing Halo Infinite multiplayer, and my Ryzen 9 5900X running at 62*C avg playing Halo Infinite multiplayer. Running Cinebench R23, my 5800X never goes past 69*C, and my 5900X never goes past 78*C.
Let me tell you what Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut did to my AMD FX-9590. (A hot running 220w CPU)...
I couldn't figure out what was going on but it kept powering itself . I finally sat in front of the machine, and started another Android system build . It powered off at 90.
It totally mangled, pitted and eroded the base of the water block on my Hydro Series Corsair H110 Extreme AIO and I'm pretty sure the extreme heat killed my pump . I was going to mill that copper plate, but finding the rhe blown punp its like what's the point? I've got a new AIO ayarem and baseplate on rhe way, and at some point I may play with liquid metals . That machine has built at LEAST 600 Custom Android System Images at full power++ and never gave me a bit of trouble, till last week
ASUS Crosshair- V Formula - G , 32GB G.Skill RipJaws DDR3 (2166) and six (6) 2TB Seagate Barracudas behind an LSI-2960-8i in RAID-5. (Root disk is a 4T Qestern Digital 7200RPM (Black) spinner.
I can't believe what rhat did to the pump. It wasnt 'Extreme', just plain Kryonaut, and a couple people mentioned that they released some bad paste a few times, but I'll spend a bit more on paste rather than spending $250+ on an AIO Cooler. I'll never buy Thermal Grizzly anything again. I'm going to give Cooler Master's MasterGel Pro2 a go this time.
Just buy NT-H1
Thermal cycling causes a pumping action that can destroy the integrity of the thermal paste application. I wonder if the cryonauts are more resistant to thermal pumping, hence the slightly higher temperature but would be better used in a long-term build?
I would’ve liked to see mx-4/5 just because it’s so widely used.
i never touched any of these said pastes, i use mx4 for my custom loop
@Ryan Mah Same, I was really hoping to see the Arctic MX5, especially now that a 20g tube is so value oriented. I really don't mind buying those ultra expensive thermal paste, except that it seems, at least with the Kryonaut, that people complain the the longevity. As Jufes usually says, for family and friends I would rather keep it 'grandma friendly' and use something like the MX5 so I can paste and forget. For my own use I probably wouldn't mind using something more "premium" even if it means repasting every 6-12 months for optimal temps.
@@dafunk420 that's awesome to hear, I'm currently building a custom hard tubing loop and was thinking of using the mx4/5 (probably I'll get the mx5 since the price difference is negligence for me at least)
They are garbage. They have bad batches all the time they recall, they separate over time and they degrade over time. 6 months you'll have 5-10 degrees worse than when you first install.
@@Ben-ld1qi MX pastes degrade worse than almost every other company. Not sure where you get they are reliable.
I had a choice of many videos, and this one looked the most fun! It just may be too!
First time seeing a video from this channel and this intro as to be the best on youtube!
Hell yeah been waiting for this video , my poor 12900kf lol
I’m using KPX on CPU and MX-4 in PS4-3 cheaply laptops it works good for that stuff but for a Ryzen 9 5900X that’s turbo past it’s rated 4.8Ghz on its own I figured I would get some paste for overclocking like the KPX I have 3 cores that are hitting 5ghz at time the rest tend to run at around 4.89 and like I said I have OC’d this chip at all it’s stock, multi-core was 20063 on cenenbebench like 137Pts off the best Ryzen 5900X build they have catalogued in there library and I know it’s OC’d
"False advertising" that part made me spurt a little of my ginger ale out 🤣
ordered 3 using the link ! Thanks man!
Some say Zezzio ZT-GX and SYY-157 are the same and both are similar to TFX (like a little less dry TFX). If you do a next test some time, you should try out the new Coolermaster CryFuze, it's a great paste imho.
Good comparison, & I didn't know about the Zezzio.
I'm using Conductonaut for my CPU but this is good info for when I replace GPU air cooling with a water block.
Turpentine will work to thin pastes out. I use it for all my paste applications if the paste is not flowing too well. It makes the contact 100%. It can even revive paste if it has dried out, so you can add less new paste. Just stir one or two drops into the paste with a glove on and the mount will be perfect. Be careful not to spill the stuff, don't let the mixture leak into your PC.
What a bangin video! Thank you :)
really found this video helpful since i just bought regular kryonaught on sale, gonna see whats up with zezzio. would've been cool too to see how it compared to liquid metal as well. and that intro haha
Bro, you forgot the most important paste, MX-5 [the new one, blue color] it reviews on par with that pink one,
Did you do multiple tests and average them out for each individual paste?
Sounds like a main TH-camr job or PC normies lol to do that you already got the results from this video
Yo that intro!!!🤣😂✌️😎
You get a like from me just for the opening, lol.
This opening 😂😂 dying
>Mixes paste
>Shows notepad
>"Okay so the shitmix ended up performing the same"
Why do you use the putty instead of a paste for the gpu gddr6x? I assume for copper shim it’s to hold it in place.. but you used thermal pads and putty, so I don’t get it.
Great comparison vid! thank you for spending the time to test...from what I heard, the KPX seems to lose its performance pretty fast after about 6 months or so. I've been using kryonaut but will be ordering zezzio to try next! Thanks again for uploading
No it doesn’t I have a rig that has had it in there for two years and the thermals are the same as they were at the beginning. What you heard is people knocking on a product because they think more money is better and they need to justify the money they spent.
I also can confirm that Kingpin for two years has been fine. You have to make sure you use the plastic spatula and spread it. I also apply a small bead in the center after I spread it and never had the temps rise after two years. So in short, spread the paste then add a small bead in the center that will compress down when cooler is placed on top of it.
@YoltsBp @Copper Backpack Glad to hear that! Thanks for sharing your insight experiences with the KPX
Gonna try some of this cheap Zezzio paste on the EVGA hybrid cooler where the VRAM plate meets the waterblock.
Do you tried IT ? Have a hybrid myself im interesting
@@c.s127 Yeah I did and it worked. I tried both kryonaut and zezzio and I couldn't tell a difference.
@@miscreant1739 alright thx for let me know
Any real differences in these pastes should be pretty minor unless one of them is straight up lying. You're not going to get a super reliable indicator of which one has the highest heat conductivity with such a short test. You need to have a known thickness of paste and heatload. The cpu works well but the overall testing methodology is "uncontrolled" for the differences you wish to measure.
The "best" paste will give the best results in all use cases and applications. IE it's foolproof to apply and works well. The paste that takes this crown? Kryonaut and likely noctua nt-h2 for a thicker option.
To accomplish this you can't have a super thick paste. This is why thinner pastes paradoxically work very well in the short term before "pump out" takes place. I would wager a guess that super thick paste actually performs the best but is very difficult to apply "correctly" thus leading people to conclude that it sucks. Which is also valid, but the reason for the conclusion is incorrect.
My go to paste is syy-157. I've found it to be the best paste at a reasonable price. Is it the absolute best? Probably not but it's very close to the best. I can also assure you it's better than kryonaut especially for longevity. Cheaper as well. Issue is it's hard to apply as it's super thick. The trick it to spread it evenly and super thin. The stuff works absolute wonders in laptops. There are comments saying to warm it up in some water, but I'm not quite sure how much of a difference it would make. Something to test I guess.
KPX is great but damn is it expensive. No thanks.
I love this video, great content. I'm going to try that zezzio paste, link used. Thank you sir.
Zezzio*: get it while its cheap.
Holy fuck nuggets that intro had me dying..... you get the like and a share for just that
Good tip on the zezzio, just ordered some
Zezzio has their extreme version and its great but expensive) thik pastes are great for modern gpus for non pump out effect. My 4070ti super drop 20° on a hotspot wich is crazy after repaste it with zezzio gsx-s.
best intro hands down
good vid as usual, but was hoping to see a baseline paste, i just use mx4 and LM on my stuff, plus putty :)
ive been using gc extreme and i cant complain on how it performs
You should do a thermal pad competition minus pad extreme, minus pad 8, zezzio. I don’t know any other thermal pads
KPX is amazing stuff.
Tested KPX vs. Kryonaut last night and my hottest core went from a max temp of 81C with Kryonaut to 73C with the KPX.
Room and coolant temp(31C) were exactly the same for each run. And the test was set to the extreme steady state mode for both 15 minute runs.
I have a question, I ordered 3g of kpx kingpin and when I peel the sticker it shows 1.1ccs in the syringe.. what's up with that?
What about pump out? On gpu performance gets worse at it gets pumped out
Great video, appreciated
Test Zezzio thermal pads?
The Power Ranger opening is freaking hilarious. 😄
Jufes, why does that board have only 3 DIMMS? 3:40 That's the first board I've ever seen in that config lmao. EDIT: actually that third one doesn't even look like a DDR4 slot
Only 2 memory slots. The third slot is an Asus dimm.2 slot for m.2 ssds
I always use noctua NH 1. It never disappoints.
Too expensive for me
@@InsanityRiseslmao
Hey is that a Asus Dual 3060, I was curious if you know the thermal pad size? I need to change out my pads when I change my fans.
How do you like those deepcool units? Was looking at them but sketchy because they used to have leak problems in their old units. Heard the new ones are made in same factory as cooler master AIOs tho.
how are zezzio thermal pads?
Short term application shouldnt matter, some cheap pastes just dry out completely after a few weeks of usd
Therefore, it is better to invest in phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950 and not worry about it drying up. Only every 6 months need to blow out the heatsink and clean the fan.
Good info. Just an FYI, you said the word "right" 703 times.
Can you try IC Diamond?
Only you could make a thermal paste video that makes people laugh. And I either missed big reds cameo or you left it out. 👍🏻
It’s there
@@FrameChasers shit, gotta watch it again. 😂
@@FrameChasers Found it! Perfect placement! LMAO
OKAY DUFUS THIS INTRO WAS HILARIOUS 😂😂💀
When 2023 edition?
why didnt u add Artic mx 5 ?
Just off the intro I had to like the video lol
I don't think he knows what the term "Lowest hanging fruit" really means.....
It’s what I call your mom
Grizzly has worked like a charm for 5 years now👍
Awesome content
Intro was epic.
yo your tfx spread super easily! when i applied mine it was incredibly hard, i couldnt pull a second lane without pulling off the first lane, it was annoying. i used a blowdryer on the cpu/paste hoping it would make it easier. it did a little bit, but not by much.
It's supposed to be that way, because It's made for extreme temperatures especially laptops. And you don't need to replace it from 6 - 8 years. Very good paste for laptops if not the best
@@timcesnovar978 yeah i mean it was a pain in the butt (and i got paste on the cpu pins), but it worked and did help with the temps a but, probably around 5c less now on average.
Why no liquid metal?
Shit I’m using the Noctua default in box crap 💩
Intro gets eleven out of ten 😂
1:15
hey amazing video as always.
Have you tried some liquid metalpad, like the coollaboratory metalpad against kingpin x yet?
11:40 Viscosity
yes ambient temp is important
Excel would be a better tool than notepad to display your data.
LMAO your intro's are too good bro
my tube of kpx must be a botched batch or something
That intro is fire 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 just started the video but in my experience kingpin is the best and I always get the best results with it but I only use custom loops not sure if that makes any difference.
In Deutschland kann ich keine der besseren Pasten kaufen. Warum?
BEST INTRO EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gd900 is also good but not for gpus or open dies
Tfx is the consistency of clay
Can u please do a video about a mid to low-end gpu on warzone I got a 1660 and I just want to stay above 75 fps till I save up enough for a 30series gpu
Full specs
I9-10850k oc 5ghz
4133 cl19 mhz 1.4v 16 gb ram
Rog Z490 E motherboard
Btw I love ur content I would appreciate it if u could make a video about mid teir gpus for wz
Bought some kpx with your affiliate
KpX only good for 6
Monts after you need to repastew
Where's Arctic
Watch out for the fake Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extrem
Get your zezzio before it sells out.
Love KPX been using on all my GPUS and CPUS builds pass 2 years, before I used to use Kryo but some batches perform worse, it varies which sucks.
Zezzio have a better product called zt-gxs
TFX and Zezzio will last longer
That intro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😉😉👍
Kryanaut extreme
Almost 11k
Putty just says nope hahaha that’s perfect
Just use MX-4 and be done with it..
Epic AF
Goooood gooood
Megazord = direct die liquid metal
NOICE!
Paste chasers
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"Shitmix" xD