Precisely. Ohtani earned as much as he did because he's a multi-hyphenate. Soto is a poor fielder who will move to DH by 28. And even then he isn't touching Shohei. He's worth a mega contract, but he shouldn't be making over 700 million. He needs protection to succeed.
For me, what makes him so great a hitter is that he is the most difficult opponent to face. With the game on the line, he is the most dangerous hitter in baseball. That at-bat to win the ALCS is exactly why he is worth the money. He fouls off well-executed pitches over and over, and he has the power to take advantage of a mistake...if you want to call 98 up in the zone a mistake. Nobody does what he does consistently. He's an average defender. We can find excellent outfielders. You can't find anyone else to hit like he does.
I would spend that money that Soto will demand across 2-3 other very good ball players, improving the roster, more than any one hitter, and challenged fielder could do for a roster.
His bargaining chip is 26 years old. Brandon brought up Trout & Griffey. In their prime Soto couldn’t hold their jock. Two best FAN’ers Brandon & Sal and it’s not close.
They forgot baseball before the 2010's. When guys hit .300 plus. 30 hrs plus. 100 rbi plus. Pitchers had 300 innings. Low era, high strike outs, wins. Those guys are worth the money. These guys stats resemble guys like Mike Pags, Balboney, Rob Deer. Remember Nomars early numbers....A Rods, early Alomar, I could go on, Albert Belle. Everything in sports is watered down😢😂
@ What you just wrote, I couldn’t agree more. Most of these all or nothing swing for the fences type pale in comparison. Soto’ is no Roberto Clemente or even Vlad Sr. I could go on forever but you totally get it.
@@sportsshooter2940you make good points regarding players from that era. But one key thing your missing is there are more flame throwers now baseball has got harder and Soto is still putting up comparable numbers to guys in that era
@@362chopcan Roberto Clemente even compete in this era? Pitchers now throw a lot harder there's better scouting reports the game has evolved and Soto is one of the best now in this era
@ One of those it’s gotta be harder today types. How many MLB jobs back then? Today’s game is watered down. Wonder how Seaver, Carleton, Gibson, Ryan and Clemens would fare😂 They’d be whiffing the world.
Can Ted Williams compete in this era with all the flame throwers and scouts we have now ? Soto could hit in that era but we don't know if Ted can hit in this era
@@Xenlacasa45 have no idea what this has to do with my point. Soto being compared to one of the greatest hitters ever but he’s not “generational” is blasphemy. I followed Soto his entire career seen every game he played this year Juan Soto is SPECIAL and anybody saying otherwise is lying to themselves.
I don't know that Soto brings fans into a stadium or dramatically increases the marketability of a franchise, as Judge and Ohtani does. Cano was a good hitter and fielder, but not a franchise player.
@@nyr14 @nyr14, is apparently 14 years old, or has the mentality of such, because Soto while an excellent hitter, does not bring fans into a stadium like Judge or Ohtani, his uniform does not sell anywhere near the numbers Judge's and Ohtani's do, he does generate millions of dollars in licensing agreement money from Japaneses television for a MLB team, like Ohtani, Matsui, Ichiro does and did. My Uncle was a super scout for the Cardinals and Marlins,, my dad played professional baseball, I hold two PhDs and two Masters Degrees in fields related to Sports Science and Sports Medicine, wherein I have worked with many professional baseball, football, Hockey, Basketball, Soccer players, Olympic sprinters, Power Lifters, and professional and Amateur BodyBuilders, so yes, I think I know a bit more that you. There was a reason the yankees did not want to break the bank on Cano, he didn't generate money for the team. Soto may be more marketable than was Cano, but he is nowhere near a Judge of Ohtani.
I would love to see Soto become a Met. How much they agree on, doesn't matter to me... What he or really any player is paid, that isn't my worry, unless... it negatively impacts us picking up other signings like Alonso and Manaea, which I would like back along with Soto and feel they would greatly contribute the Mets success going forward. Soto at any cost no, but not because of money, but because of signings that will follow Soto's contract agreement. So maybe its safe to say I kinda agree with BT on a lot of fronts. LGM
This is my thought. If they sign him, great, but I don't want it to be used as an excuse not to chase or retain other players. You don't spend 700m on one guy just to hedge the rest of your off season. They still have to get Alonso, Sean, and a handful of trustworthy starters.
@@AWaywardWriter I don't expect the FO to do that, but if they did, I will be very disappointed with that decision. The Mets core proved they can be postseason contenders so we just need to add to what's not returning. I want Pete back, Manaea, Iggy and Soto too. The rest I am open to whatever they want to add. But that is my wish list. LGM
He’s a generational hitter. I really think if the Mets or Red Sox get him they’d both be better off adding multiple players. He makes the most sense for the Yankees since Cole will have a fully healthy season and Soto will take again in the stadium. Mets and Sox need both Soto AND pitching! Yankees will be fine with Soto and adding mid type pitchers.
@@NycGamer192thank you ! I been saying this when guys bring up Ted Williams and Roberto Clemente as generational players when Soto is the one actually facing modern flame thrower pitchers hitting 98 on average
@Xenlacasa45 If Soto played in the 90s to pre 2010 era he would hit over .300 every year. Also Soto has a batting tittle on his resume i think people forget that. Funny thing is I don't think people understand how impressive it is to walk 120+ times in a season batting in front of a guy who was the MVP, who just 2 seasons earlier broke the AL Homerun record, who hit .322 with 58 bombs this year also. It's just unbelievable his eye at the plate
@NycGamer192 your the only realistic person I see commenting about this great take man. That's what I been trying to say Soto in those eras would hit .300 easily guys throwing 93-95 mph on average compared to the flame throwers we have now 95-100mph
As a Mets fan I’d love to add Soto to the lineup …. But I can’t believe all the hype. You have to have rocks in your head to pay him $600 million. There must be 20 guys who are just as good or better all around players … including Lindor. If he signs with the Mets, we can reasonably expect 285 / 33 HRs / 105 RBIs for 7-10 years, and after that … who knows? Really nice numbers. But $600 million??? Give me a break.
He's a generational presence in lineups and within the game at large, but he's not a once-in-a-generation player. He's a fantastic and intimidating hitter, but not a generational hitter.
THE OWNERS THAT CAN AFFORD SOTO KNOW AND SEE WHY SOTO IS WORTH WHATEVER PRICE IT TAKES TO GET HIM. NUMBERS ARE ALL PART OF THE EVALUATION PROCESS, BUT SOTO HAS THAT IT FACTOR. SOTO PLAYS MOST OF THE YEAR, CAN HANDLE PRESSURE, FANS LOVE HIS SWAGGER, HIS PRESENCE CREATES PRESSURE ON DEFENSIVE PLAYERS & PITCHERS.
700 million is stupid for him. He’s not even a top 5 player nm the best in the league to get the most money. The highest contract used to mean something. Now it seems like it’s just whoever is next up. Idk where .280 /40/100 is the greatest hitter ever or top contract guy numbers. I get the advanced metrix numbers but the main numbers still mean something. And those just aren’t 700 mill numbers. There aren’t even 300 mill numbers. But mlb has lost its mind and doesn’t mind charging a family of 4 a gnote for decent seats to a REGULAR season MLB game.
Imagine what manny or Ortiz would get now. A billion after their 2004-2006 seasons? Or arod or bonds?? It’s not even close to all time numbers. So why give all time contracts?
@ Ohtani, judge, Harper, Betts, lindor Witt acuna vlad all right there too and play defense and cost half of Soto. theres at least 5 right there. They all play defense and judge is a better hitter. And im Met fan not a Yankee fan. So where’s the lie?
The Yankees need to absolutely sign Soto to whatever contract he wants. The "Plan B" is one of the worst things that can happen to the team going into 2025 with guys like Burnes, Bregman, and possibly Goldschmidt or Walker all regressing or due for regression. The Plan B by the Yankees are more likely to turn out like the 2013 offseason than the 2008 offseason
Last two years, everyday… “Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers………….” This year, everyday, “Juan Soto, Juan Soto, Juan Soto…….” If you tune in one day, you’ve heard every show that week.
Obviously the new analytics are not working because the Yanks rbis have gone Down by 100 per year compared to the 90s & 2000s while era is generally the same.
@@FachelloTV Id be down but we need like a guide for topics like bullet points. I watch a lot of podcasts in Spanish and English the Spanish ones are much better because they have a guide going into each video they release they call them "blocks"
The Padres went to the NLCS with Soto, they didn't without him BT. Guy never has his facts straight. Everything is just his perspective. He wasn't saying this 💩 last season in May.
Soto got them into the playoffs when the nats were down vs brewers Josh hader was pitching and he was an elite closer yet 19 year old Soto hit off him and gave nats the lead. In the playoffs Soto was also key. Without Soto they don't make the playoffs or win the world series
@@Xenlacasa45 honestly, dont see the Jays winning the Soto sweepstakes and in a way, I hope they dont because it's such a huge investment that these things rarely work out for the team over the long term. Id rather spread the cash around but with that said, yeah I agree with you, odds are slim anyways with the way the Dodgers have been spending.
@@The_Zilli I think if jays offer him 700 million soto will take it. But I agree with you there these long contracts are a huge investment and never work out because the player peaks
This is just BT coping lmaoo Celebrate the guy all yr, sing his praises but now when he’s about to leave you minimize his worth. Kinda like when a girl breaks up with you & then you try to downplay how much you liked her 😂😂
Yeah I had this chick who I cheated on many times try to talk about my height and how this guy ke that guy is taller than me but yet we was having sex all year that didn't stop you before too late now 😂😂
soto is a great hitter and runs producer no doubt and would help any team with peices around him obviously but he is a average outfielder with a good arm yeah he is only 26 years which helps his contract status alot but im with BT he isn't a generational player
Yes he is. At 19 years old his rookie year he carried the nats into the playoffs and beat the cheating Astros. Yankees haven't been to a world series since Alex Rodriguez in 09 and Soto took them back there again. Definitely a generational talent
He’s a great hitter.. but that’s it’s.. once the bat goes what’s left? Besides of course many years and millions of dollars for whichever sucker lands him..
@ I disagree. Judge is a far better all around baseball player. His power numbers are better, he plays the field better (yes I saw the fifth inning) despite having to play out of position to accommodate Soto, he also has a good arm, he runs the bases better, and he’s a team captain. However.. Soto is much younger
@@Standdividedfalltogether If within that 8-season window the Mets (or another team), with Soto's significant help, wins two World Series, f--k the contract concerns. "If" that or a similar outcome occurs.
@ I hear ya. And it’s worth it for cohen I’m down. I look at it like this. Cohen makes 2-3 B per year. I make 200k per year. Him spending his own money and loosing $200M a season to go to NLCS OR WS is the same as me spending $20k on a vacation for me and my family. Perfectly Relative for a man worth $22 billion. Lmao. God it must be nice!! King cohen!!!! God bless that man. LFGM!!
BT is back tracking so hard!!!! Find the video of them when they traded for Soto. Or when Sal tried to say that he can leave in free agency or go to the Mets. Sounds like he realizes that it’s a high reality that Soto can leave the Yanks to go to the Mets and he’s been setting up this narrative to save his feelings!
You know what is hilarious….tel individuals, BT & Keith. Prior to the season both were riding hate that he’s the best player, that he’ll be a Yankee for life, yada yada yada. That Mets will never have a chance. Ffwd to now and now they both are singing different tunes 😂
I'm a Met fan. I would take that money, and go get every good free agent, and still have money left over. Soto ain't worth that kind of money. What guarantee does he give that he will live up to that contract? None.
Ohtani and the dodgers are to blame for this soon to be contract for Soto. if Ohtani didn't sign that deal or if he wasn't a free agent last year. Soto would never be these levels. Ppl were torching soto and boras when they turned down the nationals extension of 440m.
We have lowered expectations everywhere in society. We have lowered the bar. Every everywhere. Average is now considered amazing above average is now considered generational. Give me a break.
That's not an overstatement. The Ted Williams comparisons sicken me. The only thing unique about him in today's game is he walks more than he strikes out. That's IT. Ted Williams never hit .242, .246 and .236 in consecutive seasons. Hell, his worst BA was .254 in his age FORTY season. Soto never even sniffed Ted's CAREER AVG of .344 except in the non-season of 2020.
The Yankees need much more than Soto. There prob better off spreading the money around and bringing in a lot more. I think they got lucky last year making it to World Series. Cleveland gave that series away. But outside of the Soto/judge duo.. the Yankees weren’t that good.
Ahh This is BT's way of coping just incase Soto doesnt come to the Yankees 😂😂 This is hilarious. And BT saying the Padres went further without him is a lie becauese The padres went to the NLCS in 2022 and guess who was on the Team. Oh thats right Juan Soto
His plate discipline is generational. He has good to great power. Good club house guy. Nothing special to decent arm. Runs bases average. Not good range.
Every time we skip on these typo of players we end up bad we let go cano and sign an aging catcher and a CF who couldn’t stay healthy then we miss on Harper and machado we end up with Stanton hicks
@ yep and vlady Sr people acting like is their money bro signing Soto or not the tickets ,drink and food will still be expensive when I hear people saying you can’t get 4 guys with that money bro is 46-50 million a year not 700 million so with those 46-50 you could only get 2 players because of the aav
@carlossantos1784 I think they're just coping talking about the money and stuff that isn't their money. They're just coping with the fact Soto likely won't sign with them so if they don't get him it's "oh well he isn't that good anyway" but if they do land Soto they're gonna be jumping out of their seats 😂😂
A ‘’generation’’ is about 20 years. So is Soto the best player since 2004? He his results so far do not look that way. Shohei is worth his contract because he has proven that he is a once-in-a-lifetime player. The last player like him last played about 90 years ago. If Soto can top Ted Williams’ production, then he might be worth 600+ million.
Imagine having to be tortured 20 mins a day on your show talking about this shit? I understand NY sports is garbage right now with the Jets and Giants so there isn't much to talk about but I don't get how people can listen to the same talk everyday for 2 months straight for a guy who's been a Met since the day after the World Series. Whole thing is bananas.
the owners are pushing homers and game speed because they want marginal fans, that's why they are putting down batting average & fundamentals. it comes down to $.
I agree w BT - Good player, not even GREAT, borderline HOF - if, if, if he stays healthy - and even that is question, how many .235 seasons can Mets fans stomach as he did his 1st yr in SD. How about chemistry? Just don't think he is the guy, would had liked Harper, not Soto. Then an exciting player, not so exciting to me any more. 500 HR, I say he's probably DONE between age 34-36, but lets be generous, give him 10 yrs. He has 200 HR, so that means he has to average 30 HR a yr to get to 500, a good chance, 40 HR to get to 600, no chance. Will he steal a lot of bases? Does he have a WOW arm? 15 yrs, are you insane, by age 41 he will look like Cano and need a cane. No way do I sign him for much over 300, 10 yrs. To me overhyped and not worth it. Besides Mets have bigger, stronger, faster more younger guys coming up, much rather see Ronny Mauricio in RF next 6 yrs than Soto.
Dodger fan here, Soto is a glorified max muncy. If muncy could hit .260 boom Soto. Definitely not worth $650 mil but to eachs own. And seeing him in the division as a padre and now as a yankee when the moments biggest he chops a grounder to 2nd lol 8 times out of 10. The Soto special. Lmao
@Badtown1988 yeah I kind of doubt that. I would try to read up on history on how a generational baseball player is measured and defined.....you must be from Staten Island....not exactly a think tank.
Generational player , he's not worth that kind of money he only hits 280 avg 35 homers a year his defense sucks his base running is not good , so why the fuck are people saying he's worth that kind of money, Yankees please be smart...
As a Yankee fan, I hope the Mets sign Soto. Too much money for one guy who is only a one dimensional player. The Yankees aren’t going to spend over 300 million so that means they’re gonna put cheap guys in the other spots that we need like first base third base and left field.
He carried his team to the playoffs and a world series title as a rookie come on now he was 19 years old and only played in the majors for a few months and was hitting off elite pitchers like Josh Hader
@ Hey, he’s excellent for sure and I would like him on my team. But generational? 0.285 batting average and 30HRs a year and 6 WAR average. Hey those are all good but to me, not generational. Also, someone made a good point to me. How come Judge and his other Yankee teammates are clamoring publicly to keep him. And what happened in San Diego. I think he would flourish if he went to the Dodgers. In case you’re wondering, I’m an Angels fan. Unfortunately. They had two generational players and messed that shit up
@@reginaldoyasay4593 yeah dodgers would be a good fit for him if they resign teoscar first. Soto hit 40 homeruns btw he will likely hit that again this upcoming season maybe more with more experience now and he's entering his prime.
Couple of weeks ago you guys were acting like he was the greatest player now he’s a fraud because he might not sign if he changes his mind he will be great again
soto is better more durable and more clutch especially in the playoffs then ohtani, judge or anyone else since ted williams, stop hating on my guy he's going to the mets
The kid has been destroying that baseball in this league since he was destroying the astros at 19 years of age tell me when you’ve seen a teenager dominate a World Series that’s called generational
He's saying it cuz he knows he's not going to the Yankees...
As a hitter you can make an argument hes a generational talent, but not as an overall player
Exactly
Dumb take
Precisely. Ohtani earned as much as he did because he's a multi-hyphenate. Soto is a poor fielder who will move to DH by 28. And even then he isn't touching Shohei. He's worth a mega contract, but he shouldn't be making over 700 million. He needs protection to succeed.
@@AWaywardWriter He was second in MVP voting in a season his team lost 97 and traded their other best players at the deadline
@EddieSuri - - Ken Griffey Jr., had better stats at the same age
For me, what makes him so great a hitter is that he is the most difficult opponent to face. With the game on the line, he is the most dangerous hitter in baseball. That at-bat to win the ALCS is exactly why he is worth the money. He fouls off well-executed pitches over and over, and he has the power to take advantage of a mistake...if you want to call 98 up in the zone a mistake. Nobody does what he does consistently. He's an average defender. We can find excellent outfielders. You can't find anyone else to hit like he does.
He has the Clutch factor of a Manny Ramirez David Ortiz which are the 2 most Clutch hitters I've ever seen in my life not including Roided Barry bonds
Hitting isn't all there is to baseball. He isn't a 5 tool. Not worth the money
Yankees tradition 50%hitting and 50% pitching no let him go how much the fan going to pay after signing Soto with Shady pitching 😢
I agree with the caller.
Are you two already coping for when he doesn’t sign with you?
Seems so lmao
He's not a generational player. He's a very good hitter, but his base running is terrible and he can't play the outfield lol.
Can't play the outfield... No that would be Stanton. He is avg fielder.
@shernigz i mean, i dont see Soto dropping any routine fly balls in big games...
One error last year. It was a huge moment but one error all year. Stop the nonsense.
I would spend that money that Soto will demand across 2-3 other very good ball players, improving the roster, more than any one hitter, and challenged fielder could do for a roster.
@@jamesmichael5475 1 pitcher and 2 good position players
Soto worth $500M best but the market changed
10/280~300
😂😂😂😂😂
His bargaining chip is 26 years old. Brandon brought up Trout & Griffey. In their prime Soto couldn’t hold their jock. Two best FAN’ers Brandon & Sal and it’s not close.
They forgot baseball before the 2010's. When guys hit .300 plus. 30 hrs plus. 100 rbi plus. Pitchers had 300 innings. Low era, high strike outs, wins. Those guys are worth the money. These guys stats resemble guys like Mike Pags, Balboney, Rob Deer. Remember Nomars early numbers....A Rods, early Alomar, I could go on, Albert Belle. Everything in sports is watered down😢😂
@ What you just wrote, I couldn’t agree more. Most of these all or nothing swing for the fences type pale in comparison. Soto’ is no Roberto Clemente or even Vlad Sr. I could go on forever but you totally get it.
@@sportsshooter2940you make good points regarding players from that era. But one key thing your missing is there are more flame throwers now baseball has got harder and Soto is still putting up comparable numbers to guys in that era
@@362chopcan Roberto Clemente even compete in this era? Pitchers now throw a lot harder there's better scouting reports the game has evolved and Soto is one of the best now in this era
@ One of those it’s gotta be harder today types. How many MLB jobs back then? Today’s game is watered down. Wonder how Seaver, Carleton, Gibson, Ryan and Clemens would fare😂 They’d be whiffing the world.
Lmaoo dude is 26 and being compared to Ted Williams this radio station gets harder to listen to everyday.
Can Ted Williams compete in this era with all the flame throwers and scouts we have now ? Soto could hit in that era but we don't know if Ted can hit in this era
@@Xenlacasa45the pitchers were way better during Ted Williams era
@@Xenlacasa45 have no idea what this has to do with my point. Soto being compared to one of the greatest hitters ever but he’s not “generational” is blasphemy. I followed Soto his entire career seen every game he played this year Juan Soto is SPECIAL and anybody saying otherwise is lying to themselves.
@Metnycman the game has evolved. Faster pitch speeds, better scouting reports. Ted Williams wouldn't put up those numbers now.
@Metnycman name the pitchers that were better then
I don't know that Soto brings fans into a stadium or dramatically increases the marketability of a franchise, as Judge and Ohtani does. Cano was a good hitter and fielder, but not a franchise player.
Not surprising dude named “James Michael” can’t fathom Soto’s marketability 😂😂
@@nyr14 @nyr14, is apparently 14 years old, or has the mentality of such, because Soto while an excellent hitter, does not bring fans into a stadium like Judge or Ohtani, his uniform does not sell anywhere near the numbers Judge's and Ohtani's do, he does generate millions of dollars in licensing agreement money from Japaneses television for a MLB team, like Ohtani, Matsui, Ichiro does and did. My Uncle was a super scout for the Cardinals and Marlins,, my dad played professional baseball, I hold two PhDs and two Masters Degrees in fields related to Sports Science and Sports Medicine, wherein I have worked with many professional baseball, football, Hockey, Basketball, Soccer players, Olympic sprinters, Power Lifters, and professional and Amateur BodyBuilders, so yes, I think I know a bit more that you. There was a reason the yankees did not want to break the bank on Cano, he didn't generate money for the team. Soto may be more marketable than was Cano, but he is nowhere near a Judge of Ohtani.
I would love to see Soto become a Met. How much they agree on, doesn't matter to me... What he or really any player is paid, that isn't my worry, unless... it negatively impacts us picking up other signings like Alonso and Manaea, which I would like back along with Soto and feel they would greatly contribute the Mets success going forward. Soto at any cost no, but not because of money, but because of signings that will follow Soto's contract agreement. So maybe its safe to say I kinda agree with BT on a lot of fronts. LGM
This is my thought. If they sign him, great, but I don't want it to be used as an excuse not to chase or retain other players. You don't spend 700m on one guy just to hedge the rest of your off season. They still have to get Alonso, Sean, and a handful of trustworthy starters.
@@AWaywardWriter I don't expect the FO to do that, but if they did, I will be very disappointed with that decision. The Mets core proved they can be postseason contenders so we just need to add to what's not returning. I want Pete back, Manaea, Iggy and Soto too. The rest I am open to whatever they want to add. But that is my wish list. LGM
He’s a generational hitter. I really think if the Mets or Red Sox get him they’d both be better off adding multiple players. He makes the most sense for the Yankees since Cole will have a fully healthy season and Soto will take again in the stadium. Mets and Sox need both Soto AND pitching! Yankees will be fine with Soto and adding mid type pitchers.
The Yankees are way worse than the Mets and the Red Sox, the Yankees are a mediocre to terrible baseball team
He is not a "generational" talent, that would be Ohtani.
Ohtani is 1 of a kind not just a generational talent, Soto is a generational talent as is Judge, Acuna, Betts and definitely a few others.
Might be, too early
@@zackzecca9382Which would put him in line with their 350-400m contracts at 40 AAV. Not 700m.
Ohtani is a multi-generational talent. It’s been 100 years since we’ve seen someone kind of like him in early Ruth.
Not when Soto is either or both of 1) younger and 2) a FA, not signing an extension
Juan Soto is Gary Sheffield but strikes out more. Go compare all the numbers. That’s a compliment btw.
Soto plays in an era where it seems everybody trows 95-98+. Sheffield played in an era where the avg fastball was problably 91-92 mph. Big difference
Gary juiced how many of those numbers were because of steroids
@@NycGamer192thank you ! I been saying this when guys bring up Ted Williams and Roberto Clemente as generational players when Soto is the one actually facing modern flame thrower pitchers hitting 98 on average
@Xenlacasa45 If Soto played in the 90s to pre 2010 era he would hit over .300 every year. Also Soto has a batting tittle on his resume i think people forget that. Funny thing is I don't think people understand how impressive it is to walk 120+ times in a season batting in front of a guy who was the MVP, who just 2 seasons earlier broke the AL Homerun record, who hit .322 with 58 bombs this year also. It's just unbelievable his eye at the plate
@NycGamer192 your the only realistic person I see commenting about this great take man. That's what I been trying to say Soto in those eras would hit .300 easily guys throwing 93-95 mph on average compared to the flame throwers we have now 95-100mph
As a Mets fan I’d love to add Soto to the lineup …. But I can’t believe all the hype. You have to have rocks in your head to pay him $600 million. There must be 20 guys who are just as good or better all around players … including Lindor. If he signs with the Mets, we can reasonably expect 285 / 33 HRs / 105 RBIs for 7-10 years, and after that … who knows? Really nice numbers. But $600 million??? Give me a break.
Had talk radio existed in the 1940s, they'd talk about Ted Williams pending free agency in similar terms. That's where we're heading with this...
He's a generational presence in lineups and within the game at large, but he's not a once-in-a-generation player. He's a fantastic and intimidating hitter, but not a generational hitter.
Never go full star when signing, always get borderline stars.
There is more head hair between these two than brain cells
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THE OWNERS THAT CAN AFFORD SOTO KNOW AND SEE WHY SOTO IS WORTH WHATEVER PRICE IT TAKES TO GET HIM. NUMBERS ARE ALL PART OF THE EVALUATION PROCESS, BUT SOTO HAS THAT IT FACTOR. SOTO PLAYS MOST OF THE YEAR, CAN HANDLE PRESSURE, FANS LOVE HIS SWAGGER, HIS PRESENCE CREATES PRESSURE ON DEFENSIVE PLAYERS & PITCHERS.
Who ever signs him will regret it.
@@MG-rg3jo
Of course, You know that -- you don't know shit. :-) You could have said, "might," or "probably" would regret it. Fair enough? :-)
In the future everyone gets to be a GOAT or generational talent because words mean whatever you want now.
Mets got this question is does Soto take less and play in a higher profile stadium?
Let Soto walk!
700 million is stupid for him. He’s not even a top 5 player nm the best in the league to get the most money. The highest contract used to mean something. Now it seems like it’s just whoever is next up. Idk where .280 /40/100 is the greatest hitter ever or top contract guy numbers. I get the advanced metrix numbers but the main numbers still mean something. And those just aren’t 700 mill numbers. There aren’t even 300 mill numbers. But mlb has lost its mind and doesn’t mind charging a family of 4 a gnote for decent seats to a REGULAR season MLB game.
Imagine what manny or Ortiz would get now. A billion after their 2004-2006 seasons? Or arod or bonds?? It’s not even close to all time numbers. So why give all time contracts?
Juan Soto not a Top 5 player? You don’t have to lie to try to make a point.
@ Ohtani, judge, Harper, Betts, lindor Witt acuna vlad all right there too and play defense and cost half of Soto. theres at least 5 right there. They all play defense and judge is a better hitter. And im Met fan not a Yankee fan. So where’s the lie?
@@Standdividedfalltogether Juan Soto was 4th in WAR in 2024, so he is actually a top-5 player in baseball behind only Judge, Shohei, and Witt
@Standdividedfalltogether - - Wait till one of the major league goes bankrupt, then they'll start caring
He’s just mad cuz he know he not signing with the Yankees so he’s trying to belittle him now just incase
TOTALLY AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..
The Yankees need to absolutely sign Soto to whatever contract he wants. The "Plan B" is one of the worst things that can happen to the team going into 2025 with guys like Burnes, Bregman, and possibly Goldschmidt or Walker all regressing or due for regression. The Plan B by the Yankees are more likely to turn out like the 2013 offseason than the 2008 offseason
Offensively, he’s no doubt a generational talent. As an overall player, he’s still elite.
Last two years, everyday… “Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers………….” This year, everyday, “Juan Soto, Juan Soto, Juan Soto…….” If you tune in one day, you’ve heard every show that week.
Obviously the new analytics are not working because the Yanks rbis have gone Down by 100 per year compared to the 90s & 2000s while era is generally the same.
If it’s about protection, he should go to the Dodgers.
Maybe not but he's pretty damn good
anyone in the comment section want to start a yankees podcast/youtube channel?
I been considering this. But man the Boone era sucks although that makes for a lot of content
@ been trying to start up a channel for a bit now. Got a lot to say about this my man!! I’m down if you are haha
@ been trying to start up a channel for a bit now. Got a lot to say about this my man!! I’m down if you are haha
@@FachelloTV Id be down but we need like a guide for topics like bullet points. I watch a lot of podcasts in Spanish and English the Spanish ones are much better because they have a guide going into each video they release they call them "blocks"
The Padres went to the NLCS with Soto, they didn't without him BT. Guy never has his facts straight. Everything is just his perspective. He wasn't saying this 💩 last season in May.
You notices wen he bring up Harper's hes opinion change 😂😂😂😂😂
And if he signs swith the yanks the stance will change once again. And he'll be generational un pinstripes.
FINALLY!! Soto is a GENERATIONAL HITTER , NOT PLAYER !!! NO ARGUEMENT.
I like Soto but Anthony Rendon and Stephen Strasburg carried that Nats team to a WS victory. Not Soto.
Soto was like 20 at that time and Rendon/Strasburg ended up stealing money and being injured busts.
@Thurmanatr16 what does that have to do with anything? Sal said that Soto carried the Nats in 2019 and that's simply not true.
Soto got the most important hit in the WC and was probably their best hitter in the WS
Soto got them into the playoffs when the nats were down vs brewers Josh hader was pitching and he was an elite closer yet 19 year old Soto hit off him and gave nats the lead. In the playoffs Soto was also key. Without Soto they don't make the playoffs or win the world series
funny, i heard opposite and that Toronto is in the lead right now with an offer of 705 on the table for him.
Man I don't see Soto winning any rings with Toronto
@@Xenlacasa45 honestly, dont see the Jays winning the Soto sweepstakes and in a way, I hope they dont because it's such a huge investment that these things rarely work out for the team over the long term. Id rather spread the cash around but with that said, yeah I agree with you, odds are slim anyways with the way the Dodgers have been spending.
@@The_Zilli I think if jays offer him 700 million soto will take it. But I agree with you there these long contracts are a huge investment and never work out because the player peaks
All things being even.. Soto is Soto, Judge is Judge... both are free agents this year.... who gets more and why? And how much you paying both?
This is just BT coping lmaoo Celebrate the guy all yr, sing his praises but now when he’s about to leave you minimize his worth. Kinda like when a girl breaks up with you & then you try to downplay how much you liked her 😂😂
Yeah I had this chick who I cheated on many times try to talk about my height and how this guy ke that guy is taller than me but yet we was having sex all year that didn't stop you before too late now 😂😂
Even if the Mets sign him which I will be happy about he is not a generational talent
In the 90s you could throw a rock and hit a 290 hitter
He brings millions in gaming revenue, merch, and box office to the team that signs him....
soto is a great hitter and runs producer no doubt and would help any team with peices around him obviously but he is a average outfielder with a good arm yeah he is only 26 years which helps his contract status alot but im with BT he isn't a generational player
Yes he is. At 19 years old his rookie year he carried the nats into the playoffs and beat the cheating Astros. Yankees haven't been to a world series since Alex Rodriguez in 09 and Soto took them back there again. Definitely a generational talent
He’s a great hitter.. but that’s it’s.. once the bat goes what’s left? Besides of course many years and millions of dollars for whichever sucker lands him..
Just like Aaron judge 😂
@ I disagree. Judge is a far better all around baseball player. His power numbers are better, he plays the field better (yes I saw the fifth inning) despite having to play out of position to accommodate Soto, he also has a good arm, he runs the bases better, and he’s a team captain. However.. Soto is much younger
By 2032 this is the worst contract in all of sports.
@@Standdividedfalltogether
If within that 8-season window the Mets (or another team), with Soto's significant help, wins two World Series, f--k the contract concerns. "If" that or a similar outcome occurs.
@ I hear ya. And it’s worth it for cohen I’m down. I look at it like this. Cohen makes 2-3 B per year. I make 200k per year. Him spending his own money and loosing $200M a season to go to NLCS OR WS is the same as me spending $20k on a vacation for me and my family. Perfectly Relative for a man worth $22 billion. Lmao. God it must be nice!! King cohen!!!! God bless that man. LFGM!!
BT is back tracking so hard!!!! Find the video of them when they traded for Soto. Or when Sal tried to say that he can leave in free agency or go to the Mets. Sounds like he realizes that it’s a high reality that Soto can leave the Yanks to go to the Mets and he’s been setting up this narrative to save his feelings!
You know what is hilarious….tel individuals, BT & Keith. Prior to the season both were riding hate that he’s the best player, that he’ll be a Yankee for life, yada yada yada. That Mets will never have a chance. Ffwd to now and now they both are singing different tunes 😂
I guess Luis Arráez must be a generational "talent" as well!
But he is a generational talent.
I'm a Met fan. I would take that money, and go get every good free agent, and still have money left over. Soto ain't worth that kind of money. What guarantee does he give that he will live up to that contract? None.
Do these idiots understand that Ken Griffey Jr. was from a different generation?
Therefore he and Soto can BOTH be generational players?
Ohtani and the dodgers are to blame for this soon to be contract for Soto. if Ohtani didn't sign that deal or if he wasn't a free agent last year. Soto would never be these levels. Ppl were torching soto and boras when they turned down the nationals extension of 440m.
What the heck are you two talking about?
We have lowered expectations everywhere in society. We have lowered the bar. Every everywhere. Average is now considered amazing above average is now considered generational. Give me a break.
I would rather get Santander, Burnes, Sasaki and Bieber or Fried with all that money
Who would you want instead of Soto ?
They’re just coping for when he goes elsewhere but they’ll tell you Lindor is a baseball God lol.
@@Thurmanatr16they are coping lmfao 😂
That's not an overstatement. The Ted Williams comparisons sicken me. The only thing unique about him in today's game is he walks more than he strikes out. That's IT.
Ted Williams never hit .242, .246 and .236 in consecutive seasons. Hell, his worst BA was .254 in his age FORTY season.
Soto never even sniffed Ted's CAREER AVG of .344 except in the non-season of 2020.
Oh yeah can Ted Williams hit in today's era with 98-100 mph ? I guarantee Soto could hit in his era though
The Yankees need much more than Soto. There prob better off spreading the money around and bringing in a lot more. I think they got lucky last year making it to World Series. Cleveland gave that series away. But outside of the Soto/judge duo.. the Yankees weren’t that good.
How is judge the best player he has ever seen ? 🤣
Soto is as good as Dave Winfield. Did people go this crazy over Dave Winfield?
Can Dave Winfield hit in this era with average pitch speed between 95mph-100mph ?
Be worth another 10 mil and a couple of more years if he could actually field.
280 shouldn’t get you 700 million
How is batting average not matter anymore. Give me a player that hits 325 with 30 then 225 with 45
Your right batting average should matter Soto needs to pick it up a bit more. But he doesn't hit .225 either
Ahh This is BT's way of coping just incase Soto doesnt come to the Yankees 😂😂 This is hilarious. And BT saying the Padres went further without him is a lie becauese The padres went to the NLCS in 2022 and guess who was on the Team. Oh thats right Juan Soto
His plate discipline is generational. He has good to great power. Good club house guy.
Nothing special to decent arm.
Runs bases average.
Not good range.
Every time we skip on these typo of players we end up bad we let go cano and sign an aging catcher and a CF who couldn’t stay healthy then we miss on Harper and machado we end up with Stanton hicks
Remember when we missed out on signing Manny Ramirez as well
@ yep and vlady Sr people acting like is their money bro signing Soto or not the tickets ,drink and food will still be expensive when I hear people saying you can’t get 4 guys with that money bro is 46-50 million a year not 700 million so with those 46-50 you could only get 2 players because of the aav
@carlossantos1784 I think they're just coping talking about the money and stuff that isn't their money. They're just coping with the fact Soto likely won't sign with them so if they don't get him it's "oh well he isn't that good anyway" but if they do land Soto they're gonna be jumping out of their seats 😂😂
A ‘’generation’’ is about 20 years. So is Soto the best player since 2004? He his results so far do not look that way. Shohei is worth his contract because he has proven that he is a once-in-a-lifetime player. The last player like him last played about 90 years ago. If Soto can top Ted Williams’ production, then he might be worth 600+ million.
Soto not worth 700 million not even close
The Ohtani disrespect is nice. Judge is a generational choker by the way. Error Judge.
Imagine having to be tortured 20 mins a day on your show talking about this shit?
I understand NY sports is garbage right now with the Jets and Giants so there isn't much to talk about but I don't get how people can listen to the same talk everyday for 2 months straight for a guy who's been a Met since the day after the World Series.
Whole thing is bananas.
Nobody knows where he is going
the owners are pushing homers and game speed because they want marginal fans, that's why they are putting down batting average & fundamentals. it comes down to $.
Vladdy is a better all around player.
generational would be ted williams stan musial lou gherig babe ruth
I agree w BT - Good player, not even GREAT, borderline HOF - if, if, if he stays healthy - and even that is question, how many .235 seasons can Mets fans stomach as he did his 1st yr in SD. How about chemistry? Just don't think he is the guy, would had liked Harper, not Soto. Then an exciting player, not so exciting to me any more. 500 HR, I say he's probably DONE between age 34-36, but lets be generous, give him 10 yrs. He has 200 HR, so that means he has to average 30 HR a yr to get to 500, a good chance, 40 HR to get to 600, no chance. Will he steal a lot of bases? Does he have a WOW arm? 15 yrs, are you insane, by age 41 he will look like Cano and need a cane. No way do I sign him for much over 300, 10 yrs. To me overhyped and not worth it. Besides Mets have bigger, stronger, faster more younger guys coming up, much rather see Ronny Mauricio in RF next 6 yrs than Soto.
😂😂😂hilarious
He's a great player ... who is radically overpriced.
Dodger fan here, Soto is a glorified max muncy. If muncy could hit .260 boom Soto. Definitely not worth $650 mil but to eachs own. And seeing him in the division as a padre and now as a yankee when the moments biggest he chops a grounder to 2nd lol 8 times out of 10. The Soto special. Lmao
They need alot, other than Soto
I agree!!! He isn't a generational talent and he isn't worth that much money!!! RESIGN ALONSO, GET PITCHING AND WIN THE WS!!!!
Lmao, powerful cognitive dissonance here
@Badtown1988 yeah I kind of doubt that. I would try to read up on history on how a generational baseball player is measured and defined.....you must be from Staten Island....not exactly a think tank.
Yes he is. How many players at 19 years old carry their team to the playoffs ?
Generational player , he's not worth that kind of money he only hits 280 avg 35 homers a year his defense sucks his base running is not good , so why the fuck are people saying he's worth that kind of money, Yankees please be smart...
He's a Dominican Vogelbach
Lmfao 😂 that's hilarious
No, Judge is not the best player you have ever seen. Ohtani is and it isn't particularly close. Cope.
Yankees didn’t win with Soto..Let him go..
As a Yankee fan, I hope the Mets sign Soto. Too much money for one guy who is only a one dimensional player. The Yankees aren’t going to spend over 300 million so that means they’re gonna put cheap guys in the other spots that we need like first base third base and left field.
😂 what?
Says the Yankee sympathisers when they realize the Yankees can't afford him after all their foolish prior contracts they signed
Not generational. Unless you consider 8 months a generation
He carried his team to the playoffs and a world series title as a rookie come on now he was 19 years old and only played in the majors for a few months and was hitting off elite pitchers like Josh Hader
@ Hey, he’s excellent for sure and I would like him on my team. But generational? 0.285 batting average and 30HRs a year and 6 WAR average. Hey those are all good but to me, not generational. Also, someone made a good point to me. How come Judge and his other Yankee teammates are clamoring publicly to keep him. And what happened in San Diego. I think he would flourish if he went to the Dodgers. In case you’re wondering, I’m an Angels fan. Unfortunately. They had two generational players and messed that shit up
@@reginaldoyasay4593 yeah dodgers would be a good fit for him if they resign teoscar first. Soto hit 40 homeruns btw he will likely hit that again this upcoming season maybe more with more experience now and he's entering his prime.
@@reginaldoyasay4593 I miss the angels from the 2000's with Chone figgins and Vladimir Guerrero sr
Couple of weeks ago you guys were acting like he was the greatest player now he’s a fraud because he might not sign if he changes his mind he will be great again
soto is better more durable and more clutch especially in the playoffs then ohtani, judge or anyone else since ted williams, stop hating on my guy he's going to the mets
who cares about being a good baserunner or a gold glove defender when the bat is clutch
the cope is crazy
The cope begins
He is overrated I think. Whoever gets him won’t win a championship and your team will crumble for a decade.
Lol why?
Worth it for 5 years. Opt out and move on
The kid has been destroying that baseball in this league since he was destroying the astros at 19 years of age tell me when you’ve seen a teenager dominate a World Series that’s called generational
13:52 -- Being THE man. He's Dominican. There is no other answer. So, No. 1 Money, No. 2 Money, No. 3 Being the Man.
That's what I'm saying. Lose him you have so much room to get even better than with him.
you guys are the worst part about WFAN
Nobody in the game today is generationl. It drives me nuts when they say Mookie Betts and Soto are generationl. It's absurd !
Don't be stupid. At least, Ohtani. No hate. :-)