Scooter Won't Start? Manually Choke Your Scooter at the Air Filter | New Scooters 4 Less
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- Having trouble starting your scooter? Collin shows us how to manually choke your scooter at the air filter to help get it started. These 4-stroke carbureted scooters can be challenging to start if you have left them sitting without use for a period of time because the carburetor can get a little gunked up with stale fuel. Doing this will often allow you to get it started, break up any gunk in your carb, and get you going again. It would be best to put some fresh fuel in your tank after getting your scooter going again.
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After two years and draining 2 batteries I was ready to scrap my people 50 and THIS WORKED in 5-6 seconds! Absolutely amazing... arguably the best video on TH-cam! If you see this, thank you sooooo much!
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THIS IS A GODSEND! I have sent my scooter to the shop multiple times just for this.
Awesome! So happy that it helped you!
It worked thank you so so so much!! My scooter hadn't been started for 2 weeks and then it snowed so I brought it inside thinking it was just too cold, but it still wouldn't start. I went through about 6 videos before I found this one and it just felt right and it worked almost immediately! You're awesome thank you!
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good Tip👍. Done that many times over the yrs, except I used a shop rag rolled up ,, instead of my hand . None of them modern Scooters have any kind of Choke .. it's often VERY much needed esp when they been sitting for a spell
For sure. Thanks for the note!
2 and a half months without starting my scooter and this method worked. Thanks a lot!
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌AWESOME!
Thought I was stranded for a sec but this video helped for sure! Started right up. For those who need help on getting it started with 2 HANDS 🙌 I just turned handle bars to the right and used my knee to press ignition 😁🤣👍🏾
Glad you got it going! :)
Ha ha cant believe it, my Piaggio zip hasn't started for months (due to being sat) its 7 yr old with 2000km on it and in great condition but nothing else worked! Saw this vid thought id give it ago (covering the intake), literally no more than 10 seconds later she was on and still is, in the background whilst I'm typing this . Huge thanks!!
Sweet! Glad we could help! :)
mahalo. worked perfectly for my son's scooter
Thank you for this video, I was really frustrated when my scooter couldnt start, but when I did what you said, it worked!!!!!!!! Thank you so much.
Let’s goooooooooo!! 🙌
My moped was in knee deep water in Cambodia during a terrential down pour. It was smoking and shut off. I got out the water and it wouldn't start. After a couple mins I realized the kick pedal was down 😂. It started immediately after I disengaged it. I should've known it's a Honda
Glad you got it started!
I didn't start up my moped for 6 months and it's being outside and start up... amazing
Glad this video helped!
Been struggling with my scooter for 2 months now and this trick worked on a first kick. You are a star👌👌
Awesome! I'm so glad it helped you!
Just did the air trick and it worked thank you so much
Awesome! Glad we could help!
I adjusted the valves yesterday.but I need to redo that.I choked it like you did in this video.had came out on my hand from back of the carb.it really wants to start.I quit taking it to the shop ,they always messed it up worse.I've been without my bike all summer.no camping,I love camping
yeah man, great video. worked perfectly never knew I just had to put my hand over the breather. now if I can get the gas gauge to work id be in business.
Awesome! So glad to hear that it was able to help you! With your fuel gauge... I'd say 9 times out of 10 the issue is going to be with the fuel float that goes into the fuel tank. It probably needs to be adjusted or replaced. They aren't too expensive if you want to let us know what kind of scooter you have, we may be able to get you the part. Thanks!
@@NewScooters4Less yeah I figured it out
@@brandonwilson3175 Awesome!
Thank you! it worked!! Didn't know about it. 👍
My pleasure!
Thank you it works for me
You're welcome! Thanks for the note! Glad it worked!
You just saved me so much trouble, thank you
Great to hear!
Clutch dude thanks!
Glad we could help!
bro oh my fricking god, thank you so so so much for the help, you got a whole ass load off of my mind!
Glad we could help!
Holy shit dude! It worked on my Kymco Super 8! Thanks mate!
Lol! My pleasure man! Glad it worked!
omg dude thanks sooooooooooooo incredibly much for posting this god send of a video I could cry and give you the biggest hug ever as I have been a awful amounts of trouble with my scooter not wanting to start even though I just charged it and filled the gas tank nearly all the way up and it still wouldn't start at that point I was ready to destroy my scooter out of frustration
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@@NewScooters4Less my shitty moped now won't accelerate at all what do I do???
@@fitnessbeast198 May need to get that fuel system cleaned out. It's probably choking on old gas or something. See if you can get that fuel out and replace with fresh high-octane fuel. Good luck.
@@NewScooters4Less thanks for all the helpful support buddy I'm going have to find someone to help me fix this as I am not mechanically inclined wish I was
@@fitnessbeast198 No worries! Best wishes to ya!
Thanks man got it!!!!!!
Excellent news!
Thank you
My pleasure.
Hi, ive got a piaggio zip 2t i baught it yesterday, taken it for a run today and open air filter dropped of so i had to replace that and as i did that my bike wouldnt start up. I checked the battery and the spark and they was both great
You probably have some sort of fuel / air mixture issue if the problems started when the air box fell off. Best of luck with it!
I need help on my 2012 Yamaha Zumba 50F. It starts first thing every time when it’s cold, but will crank up when it’s hot?
When I hear this, it makes me think that you need a valve adjustment. If you are not mechanically inclined, this is something you are going to want to take your scooter to a shop for. Thanks!
Hey man! This is the method I’ve been using for about a couple of weeks now. My scooter is a lexmoto fms 125, when I bought it second hand it worked well for about 4 months then over a 2 month period it was struggling to start ( the time it took to start increased as the days went by) eventually it just didn’t start. So I consulted a few moped experts and they said change spark plug and lead so I did and it worked, however the engine will shut off at traffic lights and when I’m nit revving. So now when I start it. It struggles to start and about 2/5 times will start however the other 3 I would need to manually choke it. Any ideas on what to do, I would honestly really appreciate your support!
Hey there. Sorry to hear of your issues. Have you adjusted the idle? It sounds like that could be part of the issue. How many miles are on it. Do you know if it has had a valve adjustment ever? Sounds like that could be part of the problem too.
Got recommended this video after trying to figure out why my scooter is having trouble starting up. Charged my battery this morning abd it refused to start up. Swapped the CDI box, still nothing, checked the spark, cranks but won't start. Can't kickstart it because doing so I broke the dang teeth. Just swapped the Starter Relay and continues to give me the middle finger. Been having the worst luck ever! I will definitely give the choke method a try though!
Had it been sitting for a while? If so, this video will probably help. Bad fuel / fuel system issues are common. Thanks.
Thanks for the tip. I meant to say it starts cold, but when gets hot, won't restart. Thanks
I followed. I still think it's the valves.
My mechanic took the valve cover off my Yamaha Zuma 4 stroke and was baffled. He said it’s nothing like the Chinese scooters he works on?
@@stuartjohns230 Yea. They are way better in quality. Best to take it to the Yamaha dealer to make sure it gets repaired correctly.
Are you supposed to have a cap at the end of that or some kind of ventilation valve? Mine is completely wide-open like it’s missing apart. What part of the scooter is that exactly?
Correct! There is a little cap that goes in the inlet tube to the air filter. This helps control how much air flow is entering the tube. If you need a temp fix, you can clamp part of the inlet tube closed using a zip tie or something to close it a bit, but if the piece is missing, it's best to get a new cap. If you need help getting one, email service@NS4L.com and we can get you one if the scooter is similar to ours. Thanks!
Thanks 🙏🏼 that worked perfectly
Love to hear it!
I didn't set the timing while doing the valves.but I didn't dissconnect any thing.should I put in time and reset them?
If you don't have spark as you told me on another thread, fix that issue first.
At the end of the video, you say this shouldn't happen on a day-to-day basis. I have a Honda Aero 50 that I use daily, but I have to choke it in the mornings to start it up. It didn't used to be like this. Is there anything I should do maintenance wise so I won't have to constantly choke it to start?
What fuel are you running in it? Had it been sitting for a while? It's usually a sign of bad fuel / gunked-up carburetor. May need to do a deep clean on that fuel system.
My scooter keeps melting the sparkplug electrodes. Then it just wouldn't start. Replaced the carburetor and fired up but didn't run right and melted another spark plug electrode. Any ideas? I measured for spark gap and pretty sure I have the right gap.. what do you set your valve lash and spark gaps at.
Can vary by scooter. Definitely check the user's manual. In terms of the issue, I would definitely get it to a shop. Thank you!
I'm new at this so I need help i have a 2004 elite honda i put on a new oil pan and a new battery bt it wont start at all
I wish I could help with just that info, but I'd have to have the scooter in front of me to do a full diagnostic. Scooters won't start for 3 primary reasons: It is not getting fuel. It doesn't have spark. It doesn't have compression.
First thing i looked up first thing i did and worked like a charm !
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i can't reach my air intake with my one hand and then start the scooter with the other hand at the same time while starting it up. its a very long scooter. I cover it with a rag but I am looking for something better to cover it with and then remove. But also looking to resolve not having to do this. Can weather changes cause this to happen? I have a new scooter. Thank you.
What kind of scooter is it?
Hi, a guy has a new moped for sale but he stored it for 2 years and can't get it to start- i want to buy it since he lowered the price. Do you think that it will start after a replace the battery and new fuel and the choking method? It has 1 mile on it ,it is practically new - Thank-you.
Difficult to say. If it sat for two years with some fuel in the carburetor, it's probably gunked up and needs to be replaced. You could try that first, but worse case... replace the carburetor, fuel line & filter, and maybe even the fuel pump (fuel petcock). Good luck!
Choked once never have to again thanks
Awesome! My pleasure.
What if it revs up but only touching the 2 bolts with metal will turn it over? And when it starts and runs its a little choppy for the first few minutes. Also, it only does this if it sits for at least a few hours. New spark plug didnt change anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
It sounds like you could have a couple of different issues going on and it would be best to get it in somewhere for a proper diagnosis. Do you have a shop nearby?
It didn't have spark after replacing cylinder head.do I put a new stator on.
Cylinder has nothing to do with spark. Stator/Magneto, CDI, Spark Plug, Coil... these parts do.
Thank you bro I was stuck in the middle of knowere in the night because I did a piss stop
holding it down though,want it buern the starter up?
If you did it forever, yes. My point is that people get impatient and down hold the starter long enough. I'd say most people kill the charge on the battery before getting close to ever burning out the starter motor.
Hi, I just bought my first scooter online, and got it today.. ofcs there is no oil, or fuel on hah.. but I tried turn it on, back lights works, front light not.. is it because no fuel or oil is in it ? or because I added battery wrong ? But Yeah I didnt be able to start scooter yet properply like you did here, I thought it wouldn start, I ll try agian 30 seconds tomorrow xd
So yes... You will need to put fuel in it first. 93 octane or Ethanol-Free Unleaded Fuel. Put fuel in and try again. AND yes, make sure it has the right kind of oil in the motor!
Every thing you said did ot work
Sorry. You may have bigger problems then. Where do you live? Is there a shop near you?
My wolf Rx 50 makes that metal rattling noise that you hear when starting it as i ride and it idles should i be concerned?
I would probably get that checked out just to make sure it is nothing serious. It's hard to say without seeing it personally. Definitely get it inspected. Thanks!
I will try this ty. But I'm wondering if you have a vid about it not powering up despite the battery being tested and coming back fine? Kick start isn't working either 😔
Has it been sitting for a long time? How many miles are on it? When was it serviced last?
@@NewScooters4Less same as mine, 13000 miles
@@dapoadedeji90 Hard to say. Could be a variety of different things.
Where is it at on the Kymco Agility?
The air filter box? It's in the exact same place as shown in this video.
I put a new cylinder head on my bike no spark replaced stator.had to replace carb.it was frozen up.I can fix that still won't start.now I have a valvle feelers,so I can get that set.New battery.if it still doesn't start I'm gonna be sad.I have arthritis in my back and it really hurts to walk.if anyone reads this,and knows what might be wrong.please and thank you.Sherri stewart
What kind of scooter is it? Does it have spark now? Do you know how to check for spark? I'd love to help, but without a LOT of detail, I probably won't be of much service. It sounds like you've replaced just about everything on the scooter, worse comes to worse, you could swap the entire engine (as long as your CDI and other electrical is good).
4 years wuthout starting and worked!
Awesome!!!
Hello I am just seeing your video and have an issue..My husband suffered a Traumatic brain injury back in 2021 so his scooter hasnt been started than..I recently purchased a new battery, and tried starting fluid, still wont work,
However there is no sound , the nothing cane on only the blinker no headlights, horn dont work nothing..Kick start didnt even work not sure whats wrong as he only drove this for 5 months before his accident and he bought ihis Eagle Scooter end of 2020 any suggestions i would be extremely happy!
Sorry to hear about the injury. Prayers for your husband! It could be the fuse (video here: th-cam.com/video/L0qXHGMz6ls/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared) or the ignition could be unplugged. Hopefully that will get you the electrical power. Once you do that, you are probably going to have to flush the fuel system and put fresh gas in it, fresh fuel lines and fuel filter, and clean/replace the carb (the jets are probably clogged up). Hope that helps some!
@@NewScooters4LessOkay Thank You So Much for your reply i really appreciate that so much! ;)
Question what should i try first
And also will all that if i do end up needed to do all that how much money if you had to guess.
@@GreenEyez0480 Try the fuse first and see if you get battery power after doing that. Then check and make sure the ignition is plugged in at the harness.
Will this work on a kymco agility 50cc?
Yes. You can choke the Agility like this.
Hopefully I know where this is located on my Chinese (Znen) scooter. I took it in to a shop, and they said they serviced the carb to keep it running while idle. Turns out that isn’t the problem. I’m still having trouble starting.
I had some fuel sitting in the bike for about a month before the repair, but burned through it after, and am having trouble starting it. I have to play with the kickstart and the electric starter to keep it on.
How many miles are on the scooter?
New Scooters 4 Less coming up on 5000.
@@brianmichael1219 Have you ever done a valve adjustment on it?
New Scooters 4 Less I am pretty sure that hasn’t been done since I’ve owned it!
@@brianmichael1219 May be worth checking out, especially if you haven't done it before! It could be the problem, but the truth is, there are a few things it could be and I'd need the scooter in front of me to know for sure.
I have a manco hornet, I've charged my battery. Even hooked a charger up to it to try jump starting it. It started a few weeks ago with me just charging the battery but now it doesn't want to start at all. It sounds like it is turning over but like there isnt enough power to start it. It sat for like 3 months but like I said I started it last week with no issue after I charged the battery...any suggestions ?
Hard to say. If it sat for 3 months, I would clean out the fuel system. Clean the carburetor, replace fuel lines and fuel filter, clean the fuel petcock (or replace if cheap enough) and put new high octane fuel in it). Probably worth changing the spark plug too. I'm not familiar with the Manco Hornet. Never heard of it, so I'm assuming it's similar to the scooter in this video. Thanks.
I took the spark plug out and was trying to post a picture under my original comment but it doesn't give me the option to
@@wedgehendrickson1287 Do all of the other things I recommended. Thanks!
It works for mine but as soon as I take my hand off it dies and it won’t start up until I do that. Help!!
Sounds like you are probably going to have to get that fuel system cleaned out. I'm sorry!
Happened to my wife's PGO big max I just got her. Sat for 5 days, covered, and took about 30 seconds to start. Seemed like it was priming the fuel system then took right off.
I can only assume the gas in the system evaporated , and it had to pull gas from the tank to refill the carb bowl?
it's just got to get that fuel pumping. I am not familiar with that unit, but unless it is fuel injected, they are all going to act like this of it has sat for a little while without being run.
@@NewScooters4Less Same as a Yamaha bws or zuma. Same Marenelli 'sp' core. PGO was once in partnership with Piaggio. Been making scooters for decades. Genuine scooters you probably know them by in the US. Big Max is basically a Genuine Roughhouse.
@@bigpapa8152 Got it! We love the Genuine Roughhouse. Great unit!
@@NewScooters4Less BTW thanks for what you do. Your channel has already helped me out.
I'm a KawI guy, can work on 4 strokes in my sleep! This is my first experience with a 2 stroke. Damn they are simple! I know where to turn should an issue every arrive.
Cheers
@@bigpapa8152 You got it man! Thanks for watching! Let us know if there is anything else that you would like to see and we can try to make it happen in the future!
I have a wolf 50cc and its been sitting outside in the cold while it's been raining but its been covered up. It started but cut right off
Hey Brandon. How long has it been sitting? The gas is probably a little stale and the carburetor a little gunked up if I had to guess.
Since December right before Christmas
@@pizzadude3181 Yep! I'm sure that is the issue... Drain the fuel, replace with fresh 93 octane, and clean the carburetor. You have a gunked up fuel system. Sorry man :/
Any ideas on how to start a Yamaha Aerox 50cc
Is there an issue with it starting? In order to start most scooters, you need to turn the key on, pull the brake handle, and press the e-start button.
New Scooters 4 Less it’s ok It turned out the battery was dead so I got a new one and it’s working great now
@@leosadler123 Awesome. Glad it was something simple.
Do you know how to start a Yamaha Beluga 80
In what context? By choking it like this video.Is it a two-stroke scooter?
It's a kymco agility 50 4 stroke.2013. It has spark.I did this yesterday.I'm getting gas.I tried tuning my valves,but then I realized I have to put it back in time,and try again
Gotcha. Best of luck with it. If you keep having trouble, I'd search for a mechanic in your area. Thanks!
I have a problem with my scooter when I started it's accelerated without accelerate ,it's running itself if I don't press brake why is that?
Throttle cable could be too tight meaning it's giving the carburetor gas even when you aren't pulling the throttle. The idle could also be way too high. This video shows how to adjust. th-cam.com/video/v3G4tx3zcCY/w-d-xo.html - in the video I talk about the idle not being high enough. Yours may be too high, so you may need to adjust it down. Maybe it helps. Let me know.
Got my scooter fixed
But my idke too low it goes to
0 RPMs
Instead of idling at 2-1 rpms
Adjust the idle: th-cam.com/video/v3G4tx3zcCY/w-d-xo.html - Let me know if that helps!
Ok so my trike a 50mm (100cc) kitted 49.5cc 20mm carb stock jets ,airbox, pipe, wont start with out a hand choke when its a cold. (With my hand over the airbox hose it starts right up..) It will start fine after its been warmed up. But cold not so much.
Hard to say. Did you try adjust the valves?
Gaps are set to .005 (again 50mm bbk)
@@miguel360kmc I'd need this one in front of me to really scope it out and diagnose. It could be several things. Sorry man :/
I have the same problem with my bike it is going into the garage next week so if I find out the problem I will let you know.
Not 100% sure if i found the issue but i did find a big issue the performance valve head I put on was no good i put a another 1 on redid gaps ex007 in006 and it started right up still have to dial in carb with old/broken head it was pulling a lot of air so i tuned to make up for it now its pulling way to much gas with new head but easy enough to fix.
I was just riding my Yamaha Zuma around & it was driving great, but then I ran out of gas. I had my gf bring me my gas can, filled it up, & it still won't start. Do you have any suggestions?
Was it fresh gas? Or was the gas tank you used old gas? Also... These are vacuum-fed, so you may need to just keep trying. It probably won't start on the first press of the e-start button because the scooter is trying to suck fuel down into the carburetor.
@@NewScooters4Less thanks for the reply. I ended up trying to kick start it a bunch to get the gas to go through the lines, then it eventually worked.
@@Elevated805 Glad to hear it!
My scooter wont start if i leave it sitting for like an hour i changed the spark plug but it still wont start it takes a long time what could i do?
How many miles are on it? What kind of scooter is it? Maybe it needs a valve adjustment.
Maybe the startmotor,valve or maybe the battery maybe
can gas tank be removed and cleaned out
If the problem is fuel, then yes. You can remove the tank and clean it out. But make sure the tank is not rusted and that the carburetor is clean too.
My scooter is brand new, and while I was waiting for my insurance I started it twice for 1 week and let it work for about 5 minutes but now it doesn't want to start up. If I try to hold the start button a little bit more, would that cause any damage of my scooter?
No. It will be alright. Sounds like it's just from sitting up a bit. Look through our troubleshooting playlist. I bet you'll get it going again no problem.
@@NewScooters4Less Thank you for your reply. My dealer said me to twist the throttle fully 3 times and I did it then pressed the start button and it started but after a 2-3 seconds it died again. What might be the problem?
@@archidox2466 Did you check for vacuum leaks? There could be a crack in the intake manifold or vacuum lines or a pinched line somewhere...
@@NewScooters4Less I twisted the throttle and made it start and drove it to the gas station to fill up the tank but now I noticed another problem in the odometer. I left my house at 19 miles. The gas station is about 1 mile away, I filled the tank and got back so I probably drove 2 miles total and now the odometer is at 43 miles..
@@archidox2466 The white is a decimal. You left your house at 1.9 miles and you're now at 4.3 miles.
How u got three hands
Skillz
How do I pay you buddy? You are just good. It worked on first trial🙊🙊🙊
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My scooter still wont start. I changed the spark plug and the battery. It cranks but wont start any advice?
Do you know how to test for spark, ensure it getting fuel, and test compression? These are the main reasons a scooter won't start. I would check to make sure the scooter has all three of these. Thanks!
Mine only stays running if I keep my hand cutting off air to hose. What's my next step?
Does your air filter hose have a vent on it to restrict the air? It may need one.
Scooter start bogs at 25kmh to 45kmh any solutiom?
Is it getting too much air? Is there a vent on your air filter hose? you may need to restrict how much air it is getting.
Scooter stops or goes to low idle and stops after 30+ mins of use. Rest for a while will start again. What seems to be the problem?
What kind of scooter is it? Seems like it could be overheating? I'd need A LOT more information to help you.
@@NewScooters4Less its a chinese scooter. my suspect now is the automatic choke on the carb. it doesn't play. it doesn't have anymore a high rev in the beginning as before. could it be possible?
@@NewScooters4Less you're kinda right after it was use for 1 day long. it started to be this way. could you please make some suggestions. and many thanks for the reply.
@@127EZ Possibly. I'd really like to see the scooter to be able to help. Do you have a shop near you? I'd take it to the shop, otherwise we'd be guessing all day, lol.
My roughhouse 50 is being stubborn. Can't get it to start. It's got gas, spark, vaccum/gas lines clear, has compression, fresh oil. All the electrical works. Engine just won't crank up. I tried choking it like in this to no succeed. I'm lost and don't know what to check for next.
I'd encourage you to check and recheck. If the engine is getting fuel, the carburetor is receiving that fuel (fuel petcock is good), the fuel is good, the carburetor is clean, the spark plug has strong spark, and is achieving a compression rating high enough to start, there is really not any reason why it would start. You pulled the fuel line of the carb and tried to start it and could physically see the fuel 'pumping'?
@@NewScooters4Less I appreciate you responding back! But yea I've taken the fuel line off the carb, cleaned it too. I can see fuel pumping through the fuel filter every time I try to kick start or electric start.
@@daniell9324 How strong is the spark? It may have spark, but is it weak? You have a compression tester that you put into the engine to get a rating? Maybe it has compression but not enough?
It may be the spark, I just went out and checked it. I also Had a buddy of mine check the compression because he's more mechanically inclined than me. He said it was good. So what would I do about a week spark? Get a new spark plug or try and gauge my current spark plug better? Thanks for the help too!!
@@daniell9324 No worries. Happy to help. I would try by switching the spark plug. It's quick and easy and cheap. If it's not that, it could be a faulty spark plug boot (or entire coil), and it could be the CDI. The only way to really check in a do-it-yourself scenario is 'plug and chug' (switching the part to see if it fixes the problem). If you need help checking the spark, this is a video we made a long time ago: th-cam.com/video/aF9URBSB68o/w-d-xo.html
What about Honda lead the air filter it’s inside
Yea. Sorry. Those type are a little bit different. Can't quite do this on those.
Hi man. Everytime i turn on my scooter cold first thing in the morning, i have to let it warm up for like 5-10mins and can't drive it straight away becausenit will bog on 1/2-full throttle. Weird thing is when if it is warmed up, mo jogs and runs fine. Could it be auto choke is faulty?
I actually find this to be kind of normal, especially if it is a 49cc carbureted scooter. If it is fuel injection, you won't have this issue. I feel like it is even more normal in specific climates (cooler ones specifically). The auto choke is obviously supposed to help with this, but I still see it all the time with scooters. Where do you live?
@@NewScooters4Less I'm from the southern island of NZ and it's always cold/chily here in the morning. Plus i live uphill. It's just weird as other 50cc scooters at work just drive straight away without warking up with no bog. It feels like it doesn't get enough gas if i drive it straight away from cold.
@@ninoechavez1402 What kind of scooter do you have? Is it the same as what your friends have? All scooters are going to be tuned a little differently. I'm sure if you spent some time adjusting the needle in the carb, fine-tuning the fuel / air mixture, etc. that you could get it to go away, but if it's fine after 5 min, may just be worth letting it warm up, you know? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How can I choke a wolf rugby 2
The airbox is located in a different spot. Get to the air box and squeeze and hold the breather tube coming off the air filter box.
@@NewScooters4Less thanks buddy I will surely give that a try
@@joseesteban9285 my pleasure!
My scooter only goes in reverse neutral not forward what is the issue
What kind of scooter is that? All of these scooters in the video have one gear and that’s “turn and go.” There is no reverse and neutral is sitting at idle not giving it any throttle.
@@NewScooters4Less 200cc jasscol
@@jkenstube I’m not familiar with that scooter. Sorry!
I have a 150 cc razor scooter and I cleaned the fuel line and now it won't start at all no sound from engine and I have no help from anybody
Do you have electrical power? When you turn the key on, do the blinkers, etc. work? I just want to make sure it's not as simple as a dead battery...
I'd like to choke my scooter, as it won't start, but it doesn't have a neck!! ;)
What kind of scoot you got?
Sym orbit 2 also does not have an external neck. Do you know how to access it?
@@NewScooters4Less please help
@@nbcosta On a scooter that does not have an external snorkel, there is often a small hole on the back of the airbox that acts as the intake. If you cover and uncover this hole it is the same as covering/uncovering a snorkel. Hope this helps!
My gy6 50 will start fine cold then if you let it idle it will bog out and die about 30 seconds in. After this it is near impossible to start again. I let it sit for a few minutes and try again and it is the same as above. Fuel and air are getting to the carb. I don't see any vacuum leaks. What is my problem?
Hmmm... It could be one of a couple of things. It sounds like fuel. You sure you don't have any vacuum leaks? How did you check? Did you remove the manifold and make sure there were no cracks? It sounds like you have gas sitting in the carb and then after 30 seconds it is running out and fuel is not being pulled down into the carb. If it is not that, my guess would be electrical and probably the coil, so I would check the coil. Pull the manifold and check between it and the head to make sure the spacer isn't cracked, etc. Hope you find it!
WickdPerfekT
Your carb could also be tuned for a different weather, like warmer or colder weather
New Scooters 4 Less swapped the cdi and coil. Got her running. Took a good long ride and no problems.. next day I opened up the exhaust pipe for some more noise and now I get stuttering and loss of power when on the throttle.. probable carb tuning issue right? What can I do?
WickdPerfekT
As it is said, if you modidy your exhaust, your carb must also be re-tuned/re-jetted.
Also, more noice doesn't equal anything else than more louder engine sound.
Try resetting the exhaust to the point it was before modding, and see if the power of the scooter returns, if it does, you have some work to do with the carb
100% listen to korohone - they are absolutely right.
I hear croatian Music in the background
Doesn't work , I have a brand new moped and it was delivered not working . Idk what to do
Sorry to hear that. I would definitely take it back to where you got it from. If it's new, it should have a warranty.
@@NewScooters4Less someone came today and the problem was the kickstand was down lol .. the kick stand has a Killswitch. So simple . It's my fault I should've read the manual 🤣
@@My_Bad_grammar Lol. We have another video about that too! haha!
@@NewScooters4Less awwww man could've saved me $80 . Yes $80 for someone to flip my kickstand up 🤣
@@My_Bad_grammar Nooooooo!!!!! I'm so sorry that happened to you! Brightside... You won't make that mistake again! 🤣
I held the ignition for maybe 5 seconds and then The bike made a pop noise and shit out. Now what?
Does it have oil in it? Could have been a backfire from the exhaust too. Hard to say without seeing it for myself. I'd get it to a mechanic.
why won’t my scooter start it used to start on electric but never on kick start now has stopped on both the bike has recently had a new piston and rings, cylinder head,spark plug,ht cable and a new carb and still won’t start
Not sure. Could be one of several possibilities. I'd take it back to the shop that did all that work for you and have them take another look!
@@NewScooters4Less i have done all of this work myself as i got the bike second hand, i believe it to be the reed valves as that’s the only thing inbetween the piston and the carb do you think it could be anything else?
@@codeyosborne5560 Again, it could be one of several things and unfortunately I don't think I can b much help in these comments. I'd really need to have the scooter in front of me :/ Best of luck with it!
@@NewScooters4Less no worries i’m hoping the reeds will sort it if not i have ordered a compression tester to see if piston rings have gone again as my bike is prone to it according to reviews. appreciate the replies anyhow!
@@codeyosborne5560 Best wishes with it!
please Help I tried Your Steps Didn't Work
I will need more information to help you. What kind of scooter is it? Has it been sitting for a long time? When was the last time it ran? Does anything work on it (electrical, etc.)?
New Scooters 4 Less It Is An Honda Avaiator With Dead battery Kickstart is also not working My Father starts the scooter after 11 kick starts it Is also winter in india
Do you have a battery charger? May want to start with that. Sometimes they can be difficult to kickstart.
New Scooters 4 Less Actually My Mother Started It Many Times But I don't Have Battery Charger Because We Don't Know Much About Scooters and the work is only Done By Some Mechanic people
Alwa PlayZ I understand. Sounds like you may need to go back to those mechanics. There are too many variables here. Good luck!
What about sitting in storage for 2 yrs
If it wasn't properly prepared for storage that long, probably needs a complete fuel system cleaning OR fuel system replacement. If it's a scooter like what's shown, I would drain the fuel tank, make sure there is no rust in the tan (if it was left outside), replace fuel petcock, fuel line, vacuum line, fuel filter, and carburetor. Refill with 93 octane. Should be good to go. On a more expensive scooter, I would clean the primary components like the carburetor with carb cleaner. Hope that helps.
Yes. It's a 2005 Honda Silverwing I barely rode. Moved 2 yrs ago and put it in storage. Trying to save money now. So I wanted to take it home before the end of the month so I wouldn't get charged for May. Went and bought a new battery but it still wouldn't turn over. Probably gonna have to get a UHaul to get it to a mechanic. 15 yrs old.....and not even 2000 miles on it. Around 1765. Too many vehicles, it gets overlooked. Now I'm paying the price. Don't wanna sell it being paid for. Just wanna get it home out of storage. Even the light under the seat dont come on anymore. And that's with the new battery in. Something really happened with it just sittin in there.
@@TheKageness73 Check to see if rats or anything chewed the wiring. You'd be surprised how often I see something like that. The Honda Silverwing is fuel injected I believe? I'm thinking you will have to overhaul it, unfortunately.
@@NewScooters4Less Yeah. They said the fuel lines got messed up from sitting. And they're hoping it don't lead to further issues. They're keeping me posted. They're surprised to see only 1700 miles on it. So far I'm paying $1100 on the repairs....till the next update.
@@TheKageness73 Those fuel lines made of pure gold? Lol. I assume they are replacing a lot more than just the fuel lines at $1100. Good luck man!
Yo I need to talk to u
Talk, lol.
Mines broke off
Time to get it fixed, lol.
Please tell me whats the point in trying this im so fed up with everything nothing ever works for me please someone what is the point of doing this whats the point
The point is to get your scooter started if it’s sitting for a little bit and the gas might be a little stale. What kind of scooter do you have? What’s going on with your scooter? I can try to help some.
@NewScooters4Less I have a taotao atm50 pony and it won't start to save my life I let it set for 2 and a half years and I finally registered it and wanted to start driving it its brand new never been drove
@@dach20superman did it ever have fuel in it anytime in that 2 1/2 years?
@@NewScooters4Less it did have a little bit of fuel and a little bit of oil
@@dach20superman Drain all the fuel out. Check the fuel tank to make sure there is no rust in the fuel tank, if so… replace (or recoat) the fuel tank. On those Chinese fuel tanks, they are cheap enough to just replace if rusted. Then replace fuel lines, fuel filter, and carburetor. That will probably do it. If it had any fuel in it, then it gummed up the carb if it sat for 2+ years. 👍🏼
If anybody has a clue about the issue my scooter has, i can't find the fix: a 2012 Piaggio MP3 125cc with fuel injection and only 800km on it (it sat in a garage for years).
I did the following with no impovement : replaced spark plug, drained oil, new oil filter, new lipo battery, adding injector cleaner to the gasoline.
When it's cold, it starts *perfectly every morning*, and it will even start 10 times a day *if not driven* (even warmed up!).
However, *once it has been driven for any length of time*, whether it's 5 minutes or 2 hours (and it runs very nicely with good power), *it won't start again when it's hot and has been driven.* Sometimes, it actually does start a second time with a longer cranking period but then dies off after 10 to 60 seconds, and after that, it won't start at all until the next morning.
I would appreciate any help to get me on the right path to fix this issue.
Do you have a Piaggio dealer near you? I'd definitely get this in for a proper diagnosis.
@@NewScooters4Less thanks bro
@@2Drezik Wish I could be more help.
I'm still fucked on this, I choked it, covered it's exhaust for a few seconds, absolutely nothing is working
Do you have a shop you can get it to? It may be a different issue.
And what if it’s only been sitting for 10 minutes? And it happens all the time? Sometimes 2 seconds sometimes 30-40 seconds. And sometimes I give up and leave it for hours. Then it might start right away or take 30 seconds to start.
What kind of scooter is it? What kind of fuel do you normally put in it? How many miles are on it? Let me know and I can make some suggestions. Just need some more info. Thanks!
@@NewScooters4Less Ice Bear Q6 trike. 49cc about 700 miles. Been having problems since I got it. Paid to have it towed for the third time today. Always 90+ octane.
@@NeuroDeviant421 I'd check the valves and the timing of the motor. Hopefully, the place you bought it from can fix it under warranty. Will they? Where are you from?
@@NewScooters4Less Regrettably I bought it off the internet. The warranty covers parts only but labor is between 55 and 100/ hr. I just had it towed to the same shop it's been towed to before. It is a pretty shady shop but there are few alternatives. I live in Tampa, FL. I took it to the most "reputable" shop first and he said he doesn't "do trikes" because he doesn't have "a lift" and "besides, those things (ice bear) are crap".
@@NeuroDeviant421 I'm sorry. That's a bummer. A lot of places don't like to work on trikes and I agree... Ice Bear is not the most reputable brand in the business, but there are probably nicer ways for a shop to communicate that to a customer trying to bring them business. It's difficult as a shop in this business though. You fix one thing and then 30 days later something else breaks because the quality isn't great and customers get frustrated (even though it's not the shop's fault) which is probably why they won't service it. We've seen that kind of thing time and time again. Still could have communicated it nicer though. A lot of Chinese scooters like that can have valves that are off and that can cause issues like that. Hopefully that will help and you will be running strong again!
Didn’t work i choked it and now it’s not starting I think it died
Sorry to hear that. Has it been sitting a long time? When was the last time it ran? What kind of scooter is it?
@@NewScooters4Less its a 2015 Honda ruckus it’s been sitting since 2019 and injust wanted to try to fix it so I can ride I put new gas new oil new fuel pump and new battery when I ride it it goes fine but then goes up hill and dies sometime it will even die when I tried to throttle it while it’s on kick stand
@@danward8807 Definitley sounds like a fuel / fuel pump / carb issue. no Honda dealers near you?
@@NewScooters4Less no Honda dealers near me I replaced the fuel pump and filter and took out the carburetor idk what the carburetor is supposed to look like but it seem fine to me I also have 93 gas in it do you think it might be the battery low now getting enough power to the pumps and carburetor?
@@danward8807 Doesn't sound like a battery problem. Seems like clogged carb jets or another issue in the fuel system. Sorry. Wish I could be more help. Maybe look for a small engine shop or try searching for an independent mechanic in your area that would be willing to look.
According to this video, you have three arms, either that or your camera person cheated and held the left brake for you.
Jay... there is a brake sensor on the right-hand side as well. You can turn the key to the on position, pull the right brake handle and press the e-start button with your right hand. I'm leaning over the scooter and grabbing the airbox with my left hand. So, actually... I AM doing this with two arms and no I don't have 3 arms. 😂
U still here??? Got to ask u something
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Scooter start dies out
Try going through these things and see if they help. Thanks! trello.com/b/D5kJXGCY/scooter-troubleshooting
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I have a brand new scooter
So my starter solined not working
Sorry to hear that. The only thing you can do is replace it if it is defective. Do you have a new one or do you need to order one?
New Scooters 4 Less
First I don't know what the problem is
It's brand new scooter
I was starting fine until it fell over on it side cause the kick stand was not holding it right
I pick it up got on it it started up then
It won't start maybe need more oil
I out fresh gas in the tank
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That's gagging
Lol. You're not lying.