I have that saw. I bought it about 6 years ago and I love the fence. It works flawlessly for me. Watching your video shows that Ridged made a lot of changes to the saw and all were for the worse. This is the best saw I have ever owned and I owned a Delta cabinet saw at one time, many years ago.
I had the original Rigid contractor's saw. I bought it because it was the only contractor's saw that had more than 30" right of blade cut (it had 36"). That was 20 years ago. I've been looking for a replacement ever since as it's now aging. BTW, I'm a master cabinetmaker and I build very high end residential, aviation and yachting work.
If I was a cabinmet maker and used my table saw regularly I would by the saw stop. Because it would be my business, I would have a tax deduction so the extra cost is okay. As it is I use the ridigd table saw infrequently and it does everything I ask of it.
Thanks for the review on the table saw, I have the ridgid R4512 which is the last version of the one you have, and it’s been a great saw, I have done a lots of kitchen cabinets and I have had any problems, after 8-9 years of heavy use and still working as new.
I bought the delta saw about 5 years ago, I looked at the ridgid saw and it looked really nice however after watching dozens of videos and reading all kinds of reviews I came to the conclusion that the ridgid saws had lots of problems with the fence as well as lots of problems with the table being flat. I also noticed that I found quite a few of them being sold private sale and that kinda helped me make my decision to stay away from ridgid. I have been very happy with my delta saw for the $600 I spent on it back then, I use it almost daily and haven't had any serious issues with it.
This is my identical experience with the Delta. I also seriously considered the Ridgid but the reported trunnion plates bending and locking the blade height lift kept me away. The saw in the vid had pretty heavy duty trunnion plate and I’m sure that’s no longer an issue. After about 4 years I don’t regret the Delta purchase in the slightest. Thanks for watching!
@LoveInYourMouth The new Ridgid contractor saw R4560 is a Delta 36725-T2. This was an actual Ridgid as far as I know. Btw Home Depot has the Ridgid R4560 on sale right now for $399 which is a crazy good deal. Thanks for watching!
There are quite a few R4512 owner that have said the same. Makes me very curious of this 4520 was built to a lesser standard? I’ve never seen the 4512 in person. If I see one on marketplace for a fair price we may grab it for a review. Thanks for watching Cheryl!
I modified the fence on mine with a piece of aluminum angle and it works a lot better. And now there IS a delta modification that I couldn’t find back when I bought it. Thanks man 👍👍
If I’d bought this saw instead of the Delta I would definitely have a Delta fence on it. Shame about the miter slot! I was hoping to be able to recommend this one. Thank for watching!
Thank you for doing this review. The Rigid r4520 was the table saw that I was contemplating purchasing. I have read various reviews on this model and your review has answered my questions. I require the fence to be true and straight and more so I require the mitre slot to be true. Thank you for the very honest review.
Thanks Daniel! Check out my Delta 36-725T2 vid. It’s in the same size category as this one and it’s been awesome for me for years. Thanks for watching!
I just purchased the rigid saw. Looks just like the delta. Love the fence table isn’t completely flat. 729.00 bucks with tax and free delivery. My research found the delta and the rigid made by same company. Saws are identical except for color.
Great video. Just had my Rigid table saw delivered today. I paid about $700 and have the fence tighten up not straight. I can manage that by measuring front and rear of fence. But the fence and slots on the saw. Now, I’m not sure if I should return it. A lot of information. Thank you.
I bought one, not even a year, and one day I was raising the saw and it started binding. I would have to let it down and back up to get the saw to raise. Life-time warranty doesn't count because I took it to be repaired, 80-mile drive one-way and once back home the same issue within a week. thought I got a good deal because I got it brand new from Home Depot for $325. I took the loss because I will not be making 80-mile trips 4 times each time the problem happens. The Dewalt job-site saw was about $500 and I thought that cast iron table saw would be better by far. People I know that bought the DeWalt are still using their saw.
My solution for making sure the fence locks down square or parallel is to push it forward on the front and then lock it down. I've had no other issues with mine. I did remove the flip out fence from under the main fence as I never use it. It definitely was a learning curve figuring out that I have to hold in the switch for it to start. I honestly think most people don't have a clue how to properly set up their tools when they first buy them, which would solve 99% of their problems if they did. At least most Diyers.
Hello and thanks for the tip! Glad to hear you got a good saw! I agree I don’t think some folks realize certain tools need to be checked before use. I was definitely guilt of this too when I was younger. Thanks for the comment!
I have the previous model 4510. I bought it used and I love it. After hyper adjusting the fence I push it forward tight in the track b4 locking it down. I don't expect absolute perfection with an aluminum fence. If and when I do I'll upgrade to steel. Maybe a little rubber mallet treatment would remove the bow. One advantage the 4510 has over the 4520 is mine easily converted to 240V with factory supplied instructions. Makes a big difference. No issues with the slots on mine either. Sounds like you got a bad one and got lucky with the Delta. When I looked the Delta's were blowing motors.
There are quite a few comments praising the R4512. If I remember correctly there weren’t any owner reviews talking about motor issues with the Delta when I bought it. Possibly it’s a more recent problem. Thanks for watching!
I had high hopes for this rigid saw. There’s lots of them for sale on the used market locally and like the idea of stepping up a notch from a portable contractor saw. But if it’s got a bent fence that doesn’t lock straight and a crooked table I may as well stick with my Bosch 4000 that has the same issues.
I did too Kevin! I was hoping we’d have a good competitor to the Delta saw but my Ridgid just had too many issues. The great thing about the secondary market is you can bring a straight edge and square and check it before you buy. From a power and size standpoint I really liked this one. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Good video, I also have this same saw, the R4520, for about a year or so now, it was a good price for the features it offered at the time. Not a professional at all, sometimes question whether I'm even a good novice, but for just puttsing around, it does the job. Thank you.
Cheers brother. I was watching my Home Depot app for a sale on the Rigid before pulling the trigger and then found your video. Just picked up the Delta. Thanks for the review!
I probably I'm watching the review on the Ridgid table saw 10-in and you're talking about the fence and I've noted even on the last video that you even did that. He checked the measurements from the bottom and work your way at the top with a tape measure before you. You know before you go so I noticed that on all the Craftsman I watch on TH-cam that they all check the fence from the top to the bottom where the tape measure. But please mean to believe that both fences are not good. That's all just what I've been seeing. Thanks for listening
I have the R4512 10" saw... I spent about 6hrs one day getting the fence within .002 square at a 4ft rip. Being it was not bowed I assumed this was great. Hindsight is that I found out the aluminum fence does bow in different hot cold conditions. Currently mine is out about .020 in a 65 degree shop with 25% humidity. Let's just say I will be building or buying a steel tee square style fence asap
Very nice saw, wish I had a table saw, the motor burned out in my craftsman's table saw so I busted out the old craftsman radial arm saw, it is what is.
Yeah I got the TS3650 it has 0 issues really other then the dust collection of course...and I feel its a lil under powered...my fence does not do what this is doing...seems they went down hill with this model... basically I'm guna upgrade for more power and it's just time lol..your the first I've seen to review this one...thanks man...
Thank you for this video! I'm in the market for one of these contractor/hybrid saws. So I guess there is only one sub $1k saw now; the black and blue Delta at Lowes, if you can find it, or the orange Delta at Home Depot. You're very relatable and I like your videos!
Hello Dennis! I’m a little surprised no other company has jumped into this market. Would be cool to see something from Bosch or DeWALT. There’s a recent comment on my Delta review vid about that saw being on clearance. Considering it’s now out of stock and this 4520 just got discontinued I wonder if something new is in the works. Thanks for the comment and for watching!!
I have the TS3650 having problems with the fence not clamping straight, I've learned to put pressure on the back of the fence so it don't kick left on me, been trying to figure out the adjustment on it if any, looks like the same fence but different handle to lock it down, like the saw hate that dam fence...
Much love from Chicago. I’m obviously shopping for a table saw, hence ending up here, and this was a solid review. I’m down in bridgeport building out my garage workshop so i can do more substantial builds. The family needs a dining room table and the garage needs some shelving. Probably some cabinets and guitars and basses coming through as well. I’ll check out the Delta and be shopping around facebook marketplace for deals. I also need a jointer and a planer. If you know of any good lumberyards around the city, let me know please!
Hello Jeffrey! I’m not too far from you we’re up in Jeff Park! A new bass guitar has been a project I’ve wanted to do for a long while! We’ve got a couple good DeWALT planers on the channel but no jointers yet, hopefully soon. As far as lumber yards I don’t know any in your hood, I rarely go south or east of my house. Owl Lumber is in Des Plaines and not bad and there’s Harry’s on Northwest Highway by Harlem. I’ve been planning to check out Harry’s for about 10 years. 😂 Good luck with the saw hunt. Thanks for the comment!!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews thanks for those. I’ll check em out. I’m still flip flopping on whether to get a track saw or a table saw. There’s very few local things on facebook marketplace for heavy equipment. Maybe i can find a steal on a kreg or a wen track saw on ebay or something. Just gotta keep hunting for deals.
Check out the Wen track saw vid on my channel it’s surprising good for $180 with clamps and tracks. Might be just what you need until that sweet saw deal shows up!
I'm a to be woodworker. Never touched a table saw in my life. I'm looking to get this table saw bought shipped to me in Nigeria, by a friend who resides in Canada. My worry is if there's a defect, there would be no way to return it. And let's say I risk it, do you reckon taking out the original rigid fence and replacing it with the old delta unifence would be a good idea? I got a really good unifence from Kijiji. Your response would go a long way to help a potential woodworker in making some big decisions. Love the channel. Keep the videos coming.
Hello! When I’m asked if I recommend this saw my answer sadly is no. I don’t care for the fence design and mine had the machining error in the cast top causing me to return it. Keep in mind this is just one guys experience. I’ve owned the Delta 36-725T2/ Ridgid R4560 for 4 years. It comes with a T style fence that is simple and accurate. I have had zero problems with it in that time. If I were you this Is what I would buy. I haven’t used an old Unisaw but if the fence is a Biesmeyer style fence I’d say it’s probably good to adapt to anything. The Delta 36-725T2 fence could be installed on almost any saw. These T style fences ride on square tubing front and angle iron rear. I hope what ever you pick shows up without any problems. If you have more questions make a new comment on the vid. The reply’s do not show on my notifications and sometime I miss them. Good luck and thanks for watching!
I bought that saw and returned it right away. The top was not even close to flat. A flat edge would rock back and forth with a 1/8 inch gap on either side. When sliding anything flat over the table it would catch on the miter channel.
I bought one off Facebook for $400, I have for about 2 years. I Have a Harbor freight dust Collection hook up to it and I have no problem with it. I use dado blades in it. I can get a lot done for the money.
$400 is a good deal Dru. I bought that same dust collector back when it was $200 but it’s still a good deal for a solid collector at the current price! Thanks for watching!!
been replaced with a 4560 model, i had a version of this saw some years ago and regret letting it go, it was accurate and quiet, i needed a new caster set when i opened the box and customer service was terrible but the saw was decent, although i loved a different saw the original ryobi bt3000 that thing was a beast, i was an idiot for getting rid of that one, currently my Milwaukee cordless is my favorite
Just checked and still on HD website but says out of stock. Maybe they finally axed this one. I still think it had a lot of potential, shame. Thanks for watching!
Personally I’ll take the set screws in the insert every day, compared to the table. It’s just as easy to adjust, and the setting stays persistent when swapping inserts. Ever tried changing inserts that weren’t just crumby sheet metal? It’s a PITA!
Okay.! My favorite part of the entire video was the scale falling off the Delta, in comparison to the RIDGID.😂😅 For me, if the scale were to fall off, it would only happen if I left digital angle finder at work,🤬 and it was weekend at the shop was closed,🤬and locked,🤬🤬and I'd have to buy another one to get through the project 😡.
I've had 2 ridged table saws. Never used either one of them 10 times in the span of 2 years. Motor burned up on both of them right after the warranty ended
I bought the older version of this saw. Bought it used but the guy hadn't used it much. I paid $150 for it, the guy had a kickback and got scared so he was afraid to use it. Had it about 10 years now. I use it almost every day building furniture. None of the problems you have. I love it, no problem with the fence. You kinda remind me of OJ trying on the gloves... LOL...
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I love the Delta 36-725T2 table saw as well. Loved your review on it, too. I have tried to read up online if it can be wired for 240 volts from the original 120 volts. I can't seem to find anything info on that. Any idea if that's a possibility? In my country we use 240 volts. And from studies, I see you get more power on the motor, when it's voltage is upgraded, which is a plus for me. I've been looking at the Laguna F1, as well, which can be upgraded to 240 volts, but it's way above my budget. If the Delta can be upgraded to 240 volts, it would be a no-brainer for me to pick that up.
Hello! Sorry to tell you this one isn’t convertible to 240v. The original 36-725 was but they did away with that for this model. Shame because it was a nice option. Thanks for watching!
I wonder if the Grizzly hybrid contractor saw right at $1000 with freight shipping would be worth it compared to this & the Delta? I don’t see much about it in TH-cam in terms of real reviews. If it solves the caster size, wing level, and machining QC issues, then maybe it is an option for serious hobbyist woodworkers
I’ve had that saw for close to 10 years now I bet. They’ve made a updates since then it looks like. Looks like the fence still sucks after all these years. I don’t have the crooked T slots though. The biggest problem with those saws is they have two versions of the trunions. If it doesn’t have a Roman numeral 2 on it when you raise or lower the blade it will twist the blade.
This newer saw had a very thick trunnion plate. I doubt it’ll ever bend or have the trouble the old design did. Shame about the miter slot though I was hoping for a positive review on this one. Thanks for watching!
I have used this saw or similar model for over 5 years and have never had a problem with it. you can make a dado clearance throat plate. my miter slots are not crooked. my fence is straight. and I would never own a delta. Delta tools I have owned in the past have failed regularly.
It's very similar to the Craftsman saw I had 7 or 8 years ago. I had the same problems with the fince. I did the new fence and a carriage problem Sears did not want to fix. They took the saw minus the new fence and gave me a refund.
It’s been out for a while but The Depot made it hard to find on the site until recently, for some reason. It’s actually exactly the same saw in orange. R4560. Thanks for watching Bill!
Nice! I think the secondary market is the best place to buy a R4520 since its already assembled you can check it over with a straight edge and make sure its good before you buy. Good luck with the new saw and thanks for watching!
I just checked and it’s unavailable again. It disappeared a week before this vid dropped and reappeared a month later. Could happen again. Thanks for watching!
You have an older model rigid, where the new generation rigid is the exact tablesaw as your delta. And then you review the old generation rigid based on the flaws that are improved with the new rigid/delta.
Hello! I was really hoping this new and improved version of the R4520 would be a good competitor to my Delta/new Ridgid. The more options consumers have in a given price the better we all are. Thanks for the comment and watching!
Hi Mike, Are you aware that RIDGED Has a new contractor table saw ❔kinda looks like the Delta now I'm wondering if they corrected any of the flaws that you pointed out ❔did you take the other one back yet and maybe you can swap it for the New version and compare it to the old version... 🤷
Yep returned this one a while back. The new Ridgid R4560 is identical to my Delta 36-725T2 as far as I can tell. I haven’t seen a Ridgid in person yet but I’ve read the manual to compare. Thanks for watching!
OR-you could buy any one of a dozen stout, used saw brands that are far more dependable, precise and long-lasting. yes-they may require a little sweat-but you can learn what to do--and be better for it.
I agree! There’s a lot of great old shop equipment out there. My beautiful wife wishes I’d spend less time on marketplace for sure! Thanks for watching!
I’m sorry to hear about your Buttercup. We have 4 cats and we’ve fostered many over the years. That’s Ben in most of my videos he was a rescue from Kentucky. Before Ben we had 2 brothers Lioni and Angelo. Angelo passed away suddenly on Christmas morning at 2 years old. We adopted Ben as a companion for Lioni. Bens easily the most mischievous cat we’ve ever had and I have countless hilarious pictures of him. Lioni is jet black and I have a good Halloween 1 min video of him I’ll post tomorrow or Monday. Thank you for watching!!
Combined total of OVER 10/1000's is visible on camera. NBD for most...EXCEPT blade binding will buy you an extra belly button AND a doctor bill. Nearly broke a finger once on the R4512 like that. Great and badly needed content.
Thanks for your review. If you can measure that much error in the miter slot with a tape measure there certainly isn’t any point in buying this saw. So your conclusion to end the comparison and box it up for return is correct.
Thanks for the video, new subscriber. I have a job site dewalt table saw I bought when I was rebuilding my house and hardly used it. The one thing I absolutely hate about it is the fence. Does anyone know if the fence on those saws are replaceable? It’s a DWE7491. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Shane! I have haven’t seen an aftermarket option for replacing the fence but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one out there somewhere. Just curious what don’t you like about it?
You do know you can return this saw and it will be replaced free….i have had my saw for one year and have nil defects…i always check the fence to the blade…i would recommend this saw. Also contact Ridgid direct and you’ll get your saw replaced.
Hello, I’m checking out this 4520 and new 4560 saw to be my first. Are they the same size? Both cast iron part and working park? On home depot website, it says the 4520 is a lot bigger.
They are relatively the same size. I highly recommend you buy the R4560. I know there’s been a few commenters that like and have had good luck with the R4520 but based only on the fence design the R4560 is better. Watch my Delta 36-725T2 vid. It is identical to the R4560 except for color. Good luck and thanks for watching!
I wouldn't buy a Contractor Table Saw that Doesn't Have a Rach & Pinion Adjustment For The Fence. If I ever get to the point that I'm buying a contractor table saw, it better have fence adjustment that's as good as the jobsite table saw it's replacing.
This Ridgid R4520 is a different design than my Delta and parts are not interchangeable. The Delta 36-725T2 and Ridgid R4560 are clones and I expect will take the same throat plates. Ive never searched for a metal replacement for the Delta but those mdf plates have worked great for me for the last 4 years or so. Bought on Etsy from Calista Woodworks if I remember correctly. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Don't understand how Rigid R and D let bowed miter slots pass inspection, that literally renders that saw useless! Delta is far superior, if you want a cheaper but good tool stick with Delta and ignore the rest! I bought the Powermatic PM1000 when it came out and it's been an amazing table saw!
I still can’t believe that miter slot problem. Didn’t expect to find that at all. Shame because while that Ridgid isn’t perfect it would have been a much more positive review. Thanks for watching!
I don't think you gave the saw fence a fair review. I have an aftermarket fence that looks almost identical to and works the same way as this fence. I bought my fence over 20 years ago and could not be happier with it. I chose my fence over the Biesemeyer fence because tests showed my fence to be more stable. By being held by one end only, the Biesemeyer fence can deflect to one side in use. I have not had that issue with my fence, nor have I had a problem with the fence remaining parallel with the blade when locking it into position.
Ive never used the 4512 and have no opinion. It was my understanding that the 4512 was the predecessor to this one and this has some basic improvement. Let me know if that's accurate. Glad to hear you've had good luck with yours. Thanks for watching!
Thanks. The saw is back on homedepot website. I think they had temp kept it off til the noise quieted down. No way will I buy this. I'm looking at the grizzly or shop fox at this point. Ridgid and ryobi and Dewalt were all bought by Taiwan company.
@@ProjectsForAllReviews your welcome would you know if this is the same as the lumberjack ts 1800 table saw we have in U.K. it’s no problem if you don’t but they look very similar same base as far as I can tell cheers steve👨🏼🦽🇬🇧
Constructive criticism. Use a microphone or ear buds to record the audio. When you are doing your wide shots there is an echo. Especially with the deep voice you have it's pretty noticeable . Overall excellent video.
Hello Bill! Believe it or not I use a Rode Go wireless system with a lav mic for audio and I agree it isn’t working out. I’ve been considering trying a shotgun mic or maybe switching to voice over if that doesn’t work. The goofy voice also doesn’t help 🤣. Either way improvements are on the way. Thanks for the comment and for watching!!
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
Yep. Sorry about the audio on these early videos. This is about the time I figured out why the Rode go setup wasn’t working correctly. Have also upgraded to FCP over iMovie for the audio features. Thanks for watching!
Exchange it for a new one and see if another is better. It's highly possible to have a defective saw. Just ending it there isn't really giving it a fair review in my opinion.
I have that saw. I bought it about 6 years ago and I love the fence. It works flawlessly for me. Watching your video shows that Ridged made a lot of changes to the saw and all were for the worse. This is the best saw I have ever owned and I owned a Delta cabinet saw at one time, many years ago.
Glad to hear it worked out well for you! Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviewswhat model is your Delta in video.
I had the original Rigid contractor's saw. I bought it because it was the only contractor's saw that had more than 30" right of blade cut (it had 36"). That was 20 years ago. I've been looking for a replacement ever since as it's now aging.
BTW, I'm a master cabinetmaker and I build very high end residential, aviation and yachting work.
If I was a cabinmet maker and used my table saw regularly I would by the saw stop. Because it would be my business, I would have a tax deduction so the extra cost is okay. As it is I use the ridigd table saw infrequently and it does everything I ask of it.
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Thanks for the review on the table saw, I have the ridgid R4512 which is the last version of the one you have, and it’s been a great saw, I have done a lots of kitchen cabinets and I have had any problems, after 8-9 years of heavy use and still working as new.
Thanks for the comment Gerardo! I’m glad to hear it worked out well for you. Honestly wish I could have told you this one was good too!
I got the delta last year and love it. What made it even better was I saw it for sale at 50% off so I got it for sub $400.00 brand new.
That's a sweet deal! Thanks for the comment!
What kind of sale was that?! I wonder if it will ever happen again...
I bought the delta saw about 5 years ago, I looked at the ridgid saw and it looked really nice however after watching dozens of videos and reading all kinds of reviews I came to the conclusion that the ridgid saws had lots of problems with the fence as well as lots of problems with the table being flat. I also noticed that I found quite a few of them being sold private sale and that kinda helped me make my decision to stay away from ridgid. I have been very happy with my delta saw for the $600 I spent on it back then, I use it almost daily and haven't had any serious issues with it.
This is my identical experience with the Delta. I also seriously considered the Ridgid but the reported trunnion plates bending and locking the blade height lift kept me away. The saw in the vid had pretty heavy duty trunnion plate and I’m sure that’s no longer an issue. After about 4 years I don’t regret the Delta purchase in the slightest. Thanks for watching!
Isn’t this just a rebranded delta saw? I don’t get it
@LoveInYourMouth The new Ridgid contractor saw R4560 is a Delta 36725-T2. This was an actual Ridgid as far as I know. Btw Home Depot has the Ridgid R4560 on sale right now for $399 which is a crazy good deal. Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews exactly why I asked. Much appreciated
I own the rigid 4512. I have had it for about 5 years. I love it. I have built many tables with it and have never had a single problem.
There are quite a few R4512 owner that have said the same. Makes me very curious of this 4520 was built to a lesser standard? I’ve never seen the 4512 in person. If I see one on marketplace for a fair price we may grab it for a review. Thanks for watching Cheryl!
I agree with Johnny. I bought mine about 4 years ago and have used a lot with no problems. My fence is excellent.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the comment!
I modified the fence on mine with a piece of aluminum angle and it works a lot better. And now there IS a delta modification that I couldn’t find back when I bought it. Thanks man 👍👍
If I’d bought this saw instead of the Delta I would definitely have a Delta fence on it. Shame about the miter slot! I was hoping to be able to recommend this one. Thank for watching!
Thank you for doing this review. The Rigid r4520 was the table saw that I was contemplating purchasing. I have read various reviews on this model and your review has answered my questions. I require the fence to be true and straight and more so I require the mitre slot to be true. Thank you for the very honest review.
Thanks Daniel! Check out my Delta 36-725T2 vid. It’s in the same size category as this one and it’s been awesome for me for years. Thanks for watching!
I just purchased the rigid saw. Looks just like the delta. Love the fence table isn’t completely flat. 729.00 bucks with tax and free delivery. My research found the delta and the rigid made by same company. Saws are identical except for color.
Ken! Your going to love that saw. They look exactly the same to me too. Thanks for watching!!
Great video. Just had my Rigid table saw delivered today. I paid about $700 and have the fence tighten up not straight. I can manage that by measuring front and rear of fence. But the fence and slots on the saw. Now, I’m not sure if I should return it. A lot of information. Thank you.
I bought one, not even a year, and one day I was raising the saw and it started binding. I would have to let it down and back up to get the saw to raise. Life-time warranty doesn't count because I took it to be repaired, 80-mile drive one-way and once back home the same issue within a week. thought I got a good deal because I got it brand new from Home Depot for $325. I took the loss because I will not be making 80-mile trips 4 times each time the problem happens. The Dewalt job-site saw was about $500 and I thought that cast iron table saw would be better by far. People I know that bought the DeWalt are still using their saw.
My solution for making sure the fence locks down square or parallel is to push it forward on the front and then lock it down. I've had no other issues with mine. I did remove the flip out fence from under the main fence as I never use it. It definitely was a learning curve figuring out that I have to hold in the switch for it to start. I honestly think most people don't have a clue how to properly set up their tools when they first buy them, which would solve 99% of their problems if they did. At least most Diyers.
Hello and thanks for the tip! Glad to hear you got a good saw! I agree I don’t think some folks realize certain tools need to be checked before use. I was definitely guilt of this too when I was younger. Thanks for the comment!
I have the previous model 4510. I bought it used and I love it. After hyper adjusting the fence I push it forward tight in the track b4 locking it down. I don't expect absolute perfection with an aluminum fence. If and when I do I'll upgrade to steel. Maybe a little rubber mallet treatment would remove the bow. One advantage the 4510 has over the 4520 is mine easily converted to 240V with factory supplied instructions. Makes a big difference. No issues with the slots on mine either. Sounds like you got a bad one and got lucky with the Delta. When I looked the Delta's were blowing motors.
I meant the 4512..oops.
There are quite a few comments praising the R4512. If I remember correctly there weren’t any owner reviews talking about motor issues with the Delta when I bought it. Possibly it’s a more recent problem. Thanks for watching!
I have this saw for 10 yrs and it works perfectly
Glad to hear! Thanks for the comment!
I had high hopes for this rigid saw. There’s lots of them for sale on the used market locally and like the idea of stepping up a notch from a portable contractor saw. But if it’s got a bent fence that doesn’t lock straight and a crooked table I may as well stick with my Bosch 4000 that has the same issues.
I did too Kevin! I was hoping we’d have a good competitor to the Delta saw but my Ridgid just had too many issues. The great thing about the secondary market is you can bring a straight edge and square and check it before you buy. From a power and size standpoint I really liked this one. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Good video, I also have this same saw, the R4520, for about a year or so now, it was a good price for the features it offered at the time. Not a professional at all, sometimes question whether I'm even a good novice, but for just puttsing around, it does the job. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Cheers brother. I was watching my Home Depot app for a sale on the Rigid before pulling the trigger and then found your video. Just picked up the Delta. Thanks for the review!
Glad the vid helped Patrick!
I probably I'm watching the review on the Ridgid table saw 10-in and you're talking about the fence and I've noted even on the last video that you even did that. He checked the measurements from the bottom and work your way at the top with a tape measure before you. You know before you go so I noticed that on all the Craftsman I watch on TH-cam that they all check the fence from the top to the bottom where the tape measure. But please mean to believe that both fences are not good. That's all just what I've been seeing. Thanks for listening
I have this saw and it has served me well. We're I a more proficient woodworker I might find it lacking more. But I will stick with it.
Thanks for the feed back!
I have the R4512 10" saw... I spent about 6hrs one day getting the fence within .002 square at a 4ft rip. Being it was not bowed I assumed this was great. Hindsight is that I found out the aluminum fence does bow in different hot cold conditions. Currently mine is out about .020 in a 65 degree shop with 25% humidity.
Let's just say I will be building or buying a steel tee square style fence asap
I Love the T-Square fence on my Delta. Didn’t realize a fence could be that good until I bought that saw. Good luck and thanks for watching!
great review, Thanks for your comparison between both saw, excellent Video thanks.
Hope I helped. Thanks for watching!!
Very nice saw, wish I had a table saw, the motor burned out in my craftsman's table saw so I busted out the old craftsman radial arm saw, it is what is.
Yeah I got the TS3650 it has 0 issues really other then the dust collection of course...and I feel its a lil under powered...my fence does not do what this is doing...seems they went down hill with this model... basically I'm guna upgrade for more power and it's just time lol..your the first I've seen to review this one...thanks man...
Thank you for this video! I'm in the market for one of these contractor/hybrid saws. So I guess there is only one sub $1k saw now; the black and blue Delta at Lowes, if you can find it, or the orange Delta at Home Depot. You're very relatable and I like your videos!
Hello Dennis! I’m a little surprised no other company has jumped into this market. Would be cool to see something from Bosch or DeWALT. There’s a recent comment on my Delta review vid about that saw being on clearance. Considering it’s now out of stock and this 4520 just got discontinued I wonder if something new is in the works. Thanks for the comment and for watching!!
I have the TS3650 having problems with the fence not clamping straight, I've learned to put pressure on the back of the fence so it don't kick left on me, been trying to figure out the adjustment on it if any, looks like the same fence but different handle to lock it down, like the saw hate that dam fence...
Much love from Chicago. I’m obviously shopping for a table saw, hence ending up here, and this was a solid review. I’m down in bridgeport building out my garage workshop so i can do more substantial builds. The family needs a dining room table and the garage needs some shelving. Probably some cabinets and guitars and basses coming through as well. I’ll check out the Delta and be shopping around facebook marketplace for deals. I also need a jointer and a planer. If you know of any good lumberyards around the city, let me know please!
Hello Jeffrey! I’m not too far from you we’re up in Jeff Park! A new bass guitar has been a project I’ve wanted to do for a long while! We’ve got a couple good DeWALT planers on the channel but no jointers yet, hopefully soon. As far as lumber yards I don’t know any in your hood, I rarely go south or east of my house. Owl Lumber is in Des Plaines and not bad and there’s Harry’s on Northwest Highway by Harlem. I’ve been planning to check out Harry’s for about 10 years. 😂 Good luck with the saw hunt. Thanks for the comment!!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews thanks for those. I’ll check em out. I’m still flip flopping on whether to get a track saw or a table saw. There’s very few local things on facebook marketplace for heavy equipment. Maybe i can find a steal on a kreg or a wen track saw on ebay or something. Just gotta keep hunting for deals.
Check out the Wen track saw vid on my channel it’s surprising good for $180 with clamps and tracks. Might be just what you need until that sweet saw deal shows up!
I'm a to be woodworker. Never touched a table saw in my life.
I'm looking to get this table saw bought shipped to me in Nigeria, by a friend who resides in Canada. My worry is if there's a defect, there would be no way to return it.
And let's say I risk it, do you reckon taking out the original rigid fence and replacing it with the old delta unifence would be a good idea? I got a really good unifence from Kijiji.
Your response would go a long way to help a potential woodworker in making some big decisions.
Love the channel. Keep the videos coming.
Hello! When I’m asked if I recommend this saw my answer sadly is no. I don’t care for the fence design and mine had the machining error in the cast top causing me to return it. Keep in mind this is just one guys experience. I’ve owned the Delta 36-725T2/ Ridgid R4560 for 4 years. It comes with a T style fence that is simple and accurate. I have had zero problems with it in that time. If I were you this Is what I would buy. I haven’t used an old Unisaw but if the fence is a Biesmeyer style fence I’d say it’s probably good to adapt to anything. The Delta 36-725T2 fence could be installed on almost any saw. These T style fences ride on square tubing front and angle iron rear. I hope what ever you pick shows up without any problems. If you have more questions make a new comment on the vid. The reply’s do not show on my notifications and sometime I miss them. Good luck and thanks for watching!
I bought that saw and returned it right away. The top was not even close to flat. A flat edge would rock back and forth with a 1/8 inch gap on either side. When sliding anything flat over the table it would catch on the miter channel.
I bought one off Facebook for $400, I have for about 2 years. I Have a Harbor freight dust Collection hook up to it and I have no problem with it. I use dado blades in it. I can get a lot done for the money.
$400 is a good deal Dru. I bought that same dust collector back when it was $200 but it’s still a good deal for a solid collector at the current price! Thanks for watching!!
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I have the same dust collector. I turn mine into a two stage with separator and filter. Love it.
been replaced with a 4560 model, i had a version of this saw some years ago and regret letting it go, it was accurate and quiet, i needed a new caster set when i opened the box and customer service was terrible but the saw was decent, although i loved a different saw the original ryobi bt3000 that thing was a beast, i was an idiot for getting rid of that one, currently my Milwaukee cordless is my favorite
Just checked and still on HD website but says out of stock. Maybe they finally axed this one. I still think it had a lot of potential, shame. Thanks for watching!
Personally I’ll take the set screws in the insert every day, compared to the table. It’s just as easy to adjust, and the setting stays persistent when swapping inserts. Ever tried changing inserts that weren’t just crumby sheet metal? It’s a PITA!
I agree it’s a better design. Thank for watching!
This is what happens when the marketing guys have it manufactured from recycled beer cans. It once was a leading build and value.
Thank you for your detailed review, informative 👍👍👍‼
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
Okay.! My favorite part of the entire video was the scale falling off the Delta, in comparison to the RIDGID.😂😅 For me, if the scale were to fall off, it would only happen if I left digital angle finder at work,🤬 and it was weekend at the shop was closed,🤬and locked,🤬🤬and I'd have to buy another one to get through the project 😡.
I've had 2 ridged table saws. Never used either one of them 10 times in the span of 2 years. Motor burned up on both of them right after the warranty ended
Best bet is to buy an old saw like a old craftsman or delta and install a new t style fence (fences like shop fox or a delta t2).
wow great review... This post would kill sales of a saw as fast as a saw stop.
Thanks for the review. Those poorly milled miter slots and bowed fence make this saw dangerous, in my opinion.
Yep, definitely not good at all. Thanks for watching!
Well, since they were not a business, this particular model is no reason to buy it. Thanks for that knowledge. If it has the new
I bought the Delta 2 years ago ... its been worth every penny I paid for ...
Couldn’t agree more! Thanks for watching!
I bought the older version of this saw. Bought it used but the guy hadn't used it much. I paid $150 for it, the guy had a kickback and got scared so he was afraid to use it. Had it about 10 years now. I use it almost every day building furniture. None of the problems you have. I love it, no problem with the fence. You kinda remind me of OJ trying on the gloves... LOL...
Today the Rigid and Delta are made by the same company. Just different paint jobs. I wish the Delta had the same motor enclosure as the old Rigid.
I agree. I really liked the cabinet on the Ridgid. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I love the Delta 36-725T2 table saw as well. Loved your review on it, too. I have tried to read up online if it can be wired for 240 volts from the original 120 volts. I can't seem to find anything info on that. Any idea if that's a possibility? In my country we use 240 volts. And from studies, I see you get more power on the motor, when it's voltage is upgraded, which is a plus for me. I've been looking at the Laguna F1, as well, which can be upgraded to 240 volts, but it's way above my budget.
If the Delta can be upgraded to 240 volts, it would be a no-brainer for me to pick that up.
Hello! Sorry to tell you this one isn’t convertible to 240v. The original 36-725 was but they did away with that for this model. Shame because it was a nice option. Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews appreciate your response. Thank you very much.
I wonder if the Grizzly hybrid contractor saw right at $1000 with freight shipping would be worth it compared to this & the Delta? I don’t see much about it in TH-cam in terms of real reviews. If it solves the caster size, wing level, and machining QC issues, then maybe it is an option for serious hobbyist woodworkers
I’ve had that saw for close to 10 years now I bet. They’ve made a updates since then it looks like. Looks like the fence still sucks after all these years. I don’t have the crooked T slots though. The biggest problem with those saws is they have two versions of the trunions. If it doesn’t have a Roman numeral 2 on it when you raise or lower the blade it will twist the blade.
This newer saw had a very thick trunnion plate. I doubt it’ll ever bend or have the trouble the old design did. Shame about the miter slot though I was hoping for a positive review on this one. Thanks for watching!
Rigid and Delta have thang going on, in that Delta makes several tools under contract for Rigid.
Excellent review! .007 doesn’t sound like much but it is
I have used this saw or similar model for over 5 years and have never had a problem with it. you can make a dado clearance throat plate. my miter slots are not crooked. my fence is straight. and I would never own a delta. Delta tools I have owned in the past have failed regularly.
Crazy how 2 people can have completely opposite experiences. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
I have the 4512 and it’s been a great saw. It’s a shame they changed so much for the worse.
It's very similar to the Craftsman saw I had 7 or 8 years ago. I had the same problems with the fince. I did the new fence and a carriage problem Sears did not want to fix. They took the saw minus the new fence and gave me a refund.
The Depot was good about refunding this one too. I miss going to Sears to look at the tools…
Thanks for watching!
Does the trunnion attach to the top or the cabinet? How about on the Delta?
Looks like as of 8/14/22 there is a Ridgid that has the same form factor at the Delta. for about $679...
It’s been out for a while but The Depot made it hard to find on the site until recently, for some reason. It’s actually exactly the same saw in orange. R4560. Thanks for watching Bill!
when ever a main product from rigid or ryobi like a table saw disappears from the home depot site it usually means a new model coming soon.......
That was my assumption too when I made this video but then it reappeared. Bad timing on my part. Weird for sure. Thanks for watching!
I am picking one of these up used for $400, so its something im willing to gamble on.
Nice! I think the secondary market is the best place to buy a R4520 since its already assembled you can check it over with a straight edge and make sure its good before you buy. Good luck with the new saw and thanks for watching!
lmao "orange cat at home you don't trust"
Thanks for watching!
Glad I found your video. I didn't realize they had discontinued the saw. I bought it 2 years ago. Kind of wish I had bought the Delta now.
I just checked and it’s unavailable again. It disappeared a week before this vid dropped and reappeared a month later. Could happen again. Thanks for watching!
You have an older model rigid, where the new generation rigid is the exact tablesaw as your delta.
And then you review the old generation rigid based on the flaws that are improved with the new rigid/delta.
Hello! I was really hoping this new and improved version of the R4520 would be a good competitor to my Delta/new Ridgid. The more options consumers have in a given price the better we all are. Thanks for the comment and watching!
Hi Mike,
Are you aware that RIDGED Has a new contractor table saw ❔kinda looks like the Delta now I'm wondering if they corrected any of the flaws that you pointed out ❔did you take the other one back yet and maybe you can swap it for the New version and compare it to the old version... 🤷
Yep returned this one a while back. The new Ridgid R4560 is identical to my Delta 36-725T2 as far as I can tell. I haven’t seen a Ridgid in person yet but I’ve read the manual to compare. Thanks for watching!
OR-you could buy any one of a dozen stout, used saw brands that are far more dependable, precise and long-lasting. yes-they may require a little sweat-but you can learn what to do--and be better for it.
I agree! There’s a lot of great old shop equipment out there. My beautiful wife wishes I’d spend less time on marketplace for sure! Thanks for watching!
1:04 we had a beautiful can named Buttersup who looked like a carbon copy of yours. She passed away at age 17 this January
I’m sorry to hear about your Buttercup. We have 4 cats and we’ve fostered many over the years. That’s Ben in most of my videos he was a rescue from Kentucky. Before Ben we had 2 brothers Lioni and Angelo. Angelo passed away suddenly on Christmas morning at 2 years old. We adopted Ben as a companion for Lioni. Bens easily the most mischievous cat we’ve ever had and I have countless hilarious pictures of him. Lioni is jet black and I have a good Halloween 1 min video of him I’ll post tomorrow or Monday. Thank you for watching!!
Combined total of OVER 10/1000's is visible on camera. NBD for most...EXCEPT blade binding will buy you an extra belly button AND a doctor bill. Nearly broke a finger once on the R4512 like that. Great and badly needed content.
Can’t find the Delta saw either.
The delta saw is an awesome low budget saw. Very accurate, clean, dependable. Just use a top end blade.
I totally agree! Thanks for watching!
Thank You So Much. Really enjoyed your video. Take Care: Shawn
Thanks Shawn!
Thanks for your review. If you can measure that much error in the miter slot with a tape measure there certainly isn’t any point in buying this saw. So your conclusion to end the comparison and box it up for return is correct.
Sad but true! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the video, new subscriber. I have a job site dewalt table saw I bought when I was rebuilding my house and hardly used it. The one thing I absolutely hate about it is the fence. Does anyone know if the fence on those saws are replaceable? It’s a DWE7491. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Shane! I have haven’t seen an aftermarket option for replacing the fence but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one out there somewhere. Just curious what don’t you like about it?
You do know you can return this saw and it will be replaced free….i have had my saw for one year and have nil defects…i always check the fence to the blade…i would recommend this saw. Also contact Ridgid direct and you’ll get your saw replaced.
I let Ridgid have this one back. Home Depot took it no questions asked which was nice. Glad to hear yours work out well. Thanks for watching!
I need a straight fence and a miter slot.
Yep! Don’t we all! Thanks for watching!
Hello, I’m checking out this 4520 and new 4560 saw to be my first. Are they the same size? Both cast iron part and working park? On home depot website, it says the 4520 is a lot bigger.
They are relatively the same size. I highly recommend you buy the R4560. I know there’s been a few commenters that like and have had good luck with the R4520 but based only on the fence design the R4560 is better. Watch my Delta 36-725T2 vid. It is identical to the R4560 except for color. Good luck and thanks for watching!
The switch is not correct. It should start when pressed once without having to hold. It appears the switch is not stable on the saw.
No wonder Ridgid dumped this for a rebranded Delta.
I wouldn't buy a Contractor Table Saw that Doesn't Have a Rach & Pinion Adjustment For The Fence.
If I ever get to the point that I'm buying a contractor table saw, it better have fence adjustment that's as good as the jobsite table saw it's replacing.
I have a question through the throat plate from the rigid fit on the delta? Other than cheap MDF Replacements I cannot find a metal one thank you
This Ridgid R4520 is a different design than my Delta and parts are not interchangeable. The Delta 36-725T2 and Ridgid R4560 are clones and I expect will take the same throat plates. Ive never searched for a metal replacement for the Delta but those mdf plates have worked great for me for the last 4 years or so. Bought on Etsy from Calista Woodworks if I remember correctly. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thanks I appreciate that much
Isn't that only a 13 amps vs the Delta at 15 amps? Ridgid makes an identical model to your Delta. Ridgid R4560.
You are correct but I used the R4520 a lot and I couldn’t tell the difference in power compared to my Delta. Thanks for watching!
Don't understand how Rigid R and D let bowed miter slots pass inspection, that literally renders that saw useless! Delta is far superior, if you want a cheaper but good tool stick with Delta and ignore the rest! I bought the Powermatic PM1000 when it came out and it's been an amazing table saw!
I still can’t believe that miter slot problem. Didn’t expect to find that at all. Shame because while that Ridgid isn’t perfect it would have been a much more positive review. Thanks for watching!
I don't think you gave the saw fence a fair review. I have an aftermarket fence that looks almost identical to and works the same way as this fence. I bought my fence over 20 years ago and could not be happier with it. I chose my fence over the Biesemeyer fence because tests showed my fence to be more stable. By being held by one end only, the Biesemeyer fence can deflect to one side in use. I have not had that issue with my fence, nor have I had a problem with the fence remaining parallel with the blade when locking it into position.
Thanks for adding to the discussion John! A fence deflection comparison sounds like a decent future video topic.
Went to buy a delta at lowes.They had one kinda set up in the tool dept.And I am glad they did.No thankyou.Pile of crap.
Is that a dado blade in the bottom of your dust collector? 12:32
I had to go back and look…100% yes! Too lazy to stop filming and fish it out. Good eye. Thanks for watching!
Your opinion of the 4512? thats what i have and no major issue except fence
Ive never used the 4512 and have no opinion. It was my understanding that the 4512 was the predecessor to this one and this has some basic improvement. Let me know if that's accurate. Glad to hear you've had good luck with yours. Thanks for watching!
I believe you are correct and I am satisfied with the 4512 for my needs.
Why cant we get this tables saws in Europe?
Can the motor be easily switched to 240V like the Delta 36-725?
Hello Tim! No this saw is 120V only same as the current Delta 36-725T2. Thanks for watching!
Easy fix just bow the fence to match table miter and Zeroed 😅
Perfect! Even easier would have been to roll that thing out in the alley. Thanks for watching!
Keeper both
Thanks. The saw is back on homedepot website. I think they had temp kept it off til the noise quieted down. No way will I buy this. I'm looking at the grizzly or shop fox at this point. Ridgid and ryobi and Dewalt were all bought by Taiwan company.
I checked and you are right it’s back on the website! Super weird. Thanks for the update I may have never noticed!
Buy the Delta!!
👍 Thanks for watching!
And got replaced with a orange version of that delta
Thanks for watching!
Hi what size arbor is it cheers
5/8. Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews your welcome would you know if this is the same as the lumberjack ts 1800 table saw we have in U.K. it’s no problem if you don’t but they look very similar same base as far as I can tell
cheers steve👨🏼🦽🇬🇧
Constructive criticism. Use a microphone or ear buds to record the audio. When you are doing your wide shots there is an echo. Especially with the deep voice you have it's pretty noticeable . Overall excellent video.
Hello Bill! Believe it or not I use a Rode Go wireless system with a lav mic for audio and I agree it isn’t working out. I’ve been considering trying a shotgun mic or maybe switching to voice over if that doesn’t work. The goofy voice also doesn’t help 🤣. Either way improvements are on the way. Thanks for the comment and for watching!!
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You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
Thanks for watching!
Soooooo, as long as the "Contractor" isn't a high quality cabinet maker, maybe your ok, if you're very knowledgeable and very careful.?
you should spend more on your audio set up if you're doing to do this youtube thing. look at your audio level when editing its all over the place
Yep. Sorry about the audio on these early videos. This is about the time I figured out why the Rode go setup wasn’t working correctly. Have also upgraded to FCP over iMovie for the audio features. Thanks for watching!
Please, Please, wear a mic when making videos. I have the volume on full and still have trouble hearing you.
This is one of the last ones with weak audio. Newer vids should be better but always trying to improve. Thanks for watching!
You really need a microphone.
Exchange it for a new one and see if another is better. It's highly possible to have a defective saw. Just ending it there isn't really giving it a fair review in my opinion.
As a matter of fact I do have an orange cat at home that I don’t trust…
Lol! Thank for watching Colin!
Forget that rigid then I guess
I would recommend you skip this one. Great name by the way! 🤣 Thanks for watching!
Miter slides being crooked makes the machine junk
my sentiment exactly Marion!
Grizzly is a better saw