I use my BooKoo for everything because it's the most accurate scale I own. If I can't see the numbers because my item is too large, I just use the app.
Your content is consistently excellent. Your videos and reviews are no nonsense, they progress in a very logical manner, and I think you do a great job explaining your thoughts to newbies and seasoned coffee drinkers alike. Keep up the great work!
The little normcore espresso scale is really good for about $50 if I remember right. I have that for espresso and the full size largest timemore for pour over and those 2 together are about the price of a Bookoo. If you don’t need the app connectivity that’s the way I would go. Both feel sufficiently water resistant as well. The bookoo however will be a quick competitor to the Acaia scales.
I've had the $15 scale you show for my pour over (and other kitchen uses) and it's worked fine for years now. I use a cheap jeweler's scale to weigh the beans, though (a totally unnecessary .01g precision). I don't do espresso so I don't need the small size for the actual brewing.
Yeah. I’m on my third cheap ~$15 mini scale, the first two having broken, presumably due to moisture ingress. Bought a Bookoo a few weeks ago and waiting for it to arrive (+ their wireless pressure profiler kit for Cafelat Robot).
I have bought sooooooooo many scales over the last year, which has cost me more than just buying a lunar (although as a Canadian...our dollar currently...ouch) and I stopped when I got the Themis. It's AWESOME. I have a V3 Gaggiuino setup at work and the Themis' BT connects immediately for brew-by-weight. It's so small and great, and I can't wait to see how it matures. I was super excited to see you review one, it's a great way to spend a saturday morning :).
I got mine because I wanted a scale that small for my "travel" setup. We spend 3 days a week with my mother in-law as my wife and I only have a 4-day work week, and this scale matches up with my J-Ultra and Picopresso nicely for that. Though I find myself using it as my go-to scale at home too. I'm not so concerned with splitting shots because that is only something I'd consider when making drinks in volume, often times for people who don't really care about coffee quality to begin with. In that case I just use volumetrics. If what I was looking for was a smaller volume of coffee, I'd pull two double ristrettos or simply use 12-14 gram baskets. One feature I do miss from my cheap scale is the doble tab feature. If I double tapped the power button it would reset time and weight simultaneously. I've not found a way to do this on the Bookoo. It isn't a big deal, but I didn't realize how much I'd miss that feature. Thank you for the well-made video, as always!
Really like coffee scale videos cause it helps to boost a bit views for my videos about cheap & smart scale. I can get why bookoo and acaia so expensive. It might have been much cheaper
I must say that perhaps another down-side would be that you can't see time, weight and flow on the scale itself at the same time without the app, but otherwise I really got my sights set on getting this scale asap, it's really nice, especially for the price.
I know that precision is in service to repeatability, but how much does a scale that measures tenths improve the taste of a cup? I won't start espresso until the meticulous get gets delivered (it i break down and get a robot once it's back in stock), so all I'm doing is pour overs and the like with the OXO or Escali kitchen scales we've had forever. Once i get close, i add a couple beans at a time to make the scale tick up to the number i want. If I'm typically doing 15 or 20 gram doses, how much does the fact that i might be at 15.1 vs. 15.6 affect the coffee you're making? And how much does it affect espresso? I'm curious if anyone has done any testing over several rounds to see the impact.
No testing, but like you said, it's the difference between being off by up to a gram (+/- 0.5) vs being off by a tenth (+/- 0.05). For something measured in the dozens or hundreds like filter, it probably doesn't matter. But espresso is typically measured as a 10-20 gram dose to a 20-50 output. When the numbers are smaller, the variance matters more. And subjectively, the scale I own that only measures in whole grams is the worst scale I own on a lot of other metrics as well. You're usually not paying only for the precision
Another huge positive about this scale is that it connects to their own pressure sensor that is also reasonably priced compared to the competition. You can do excellent pressure profiling with the Flair or any espresso machine with an E61 grouphead. It also syncs with their app and apps like Beanconqueror. I'm not sure why reviewers aren't mentioning this.
One maddening thing with my scale is when the intermittent-dripstart results in the scale thinking the pull is complete (because of 'too much' time between drips), so it stops registering further weight even though there's a long way to go. *I hope that's not the case with the Bookoo.
Hi. Here's BOOKOO. We've considered this issue. The auto mode currently works like this: To stop extraction, you can remove the cup (the timer stops when the flow rate is zero) OR press the left button briefly. However, some users have suggested that they'd like the timer to stop when the liquid flow stops, even though this might cause the issue you mentioned. We're considering allowing users to OTA and customize their preferred auto mode through the app.
@@BooKooCoffee Thankyou for chiming in. It'd be great if flow-sensitive scales like these would disregard intermittent flow for the first ~10 seconds, and thereafter auto-stop when true stoppage of flow occurs. I don't use my current scale for espresso because of its tendency to auto-stop prematurely. It's more hassle than it's worth. And I'm not going to bother with another scale until I'm convinced of fundamental performance issues. I applaud Bookoo for making a more reasonably priced and small scale that fits in tighter quarters such as that of the Robot. I have a robot and La Pavoni lever. Real estate is at a premium. It'd be great if scale designers would also use a more rectangular design (longer fore-aft than side-to-side). This would allow more space for internal componentry, allow more space for somewhat larger cups (as was addressed in this vid), and yet still allow the scale to comfortably fit in small spaces. BTW, what is "OTA"? Open to all? Over the air? Like open source?
@@ziptiefighter Thanks for sharing. "OTA" means Over-The-Air Technology, which allows users to upgrade the software of scale via Bluetooth. Just like app version upgrades.
The normcore pocket scale is like half the prize, a little larger, come with a case and wooden pads. If you don't care for IPX water resistance rating or Bluetooth connectivity, it is worth the look.
Their pocket scale looks very nice. I’m wanting something smaller and better quality for my Robot. Currently using the Weighman from Amazon. It’s just okay.
Water protection is crucial. I can’t count how many times I’ve had espresso or water drip all over a scale. Bookoo is nice for including a plug. Wish I got one with my Acaia.
Im using bookoo couple of weeks already, and its just great..I got the new design with white markers for buttons..its so small and cute..only the app design and functionality could be better..like missing timer (should be the same like weight and next to each other)..would be useful for pourover..maybe some more features and modes will come
To be honest, I love the Acaia scales, but in a cafe setting I find them to be annoying sometimes. Once the top gets whet the touch buttons don't really work reliably.
I have a ~40$-ish scale, I do both espresso and filter. I've been thinking about upgrading to something that can track flow and is a bit faster then what I have. The price point of bookoo and the overall feature set is really appealing. What might be a deal breaker for me is the .1g accuracy. If I buy a new scale, I want it to do 0.01 so that I can do water recipes as well. My softened water is too soft and I want to try mineralizing it to get less sour espresso. If this had .01 g it would be perfect but this way it's probably a deal breaker for me. Also the size bothers me a bit. I'm doing mostly V60 for filter but if I have coffee that brews ok in a Chemex, I'll use it too and it just seems a bit too small for that. Also, I like that my current scale can double as a kitchen scale, I just put a bowl on it and I can weight anything. This one doesn't seem like it can do that.
What is criminal is how few people showcase MiiCoffee scales. They make a plastic top, glass top and metal top for $35-50. Also Acaia prices are absolutely criminal.
Got the scale and pressure sensor which I installed in BDB with Slayer modification. $200 investment for these toys. Using an accurate scale has helped get more consistent shots. Bluetooth and pressure sensor are really a bit overkill tech since the BDB has a perfectly good pressure indicator and timer. As noted, the software application is good but has a few bugs with connectivity.
Yeah, it's nice to have, but donno man, price is still crazy. The thing is that it's a really nice product, but it doesn't really help making better coffee. For espresso i use a scale advertised for jewels (similar to Weightman), price starts at 3$, 0.1g acc, very accurate, instant response, no timer (no problem), feels kinda flimsy but i have this one for a few years now. For PO, the square one from the left at 1:53, does the job, it was 15$, also a few years old (though not instant response = not great for espresso, but good enough for PO). The feeling of not caring if it gets broken, lost or whatever, is greater (*for me) than using an expensive much nicer product, but with the anxiety of braking it, losing or whatever. Also saying Acaia Lunar buyers ends up loving them is kinda dabatable (i'm sure some do), but at that exorbitant price comes ego investing, you won't hear many saying "that was expensive af, i don't know what i was thinking".
Yup, while WAY better priced than a lunar with comparable quality, this is still not a cheap scale. Exactly why I wanted to mention some of those other options. I used a weightman for a couple years. The screen barely worked by the end but def got my moneys worth
I used to use a cheaper scale (Searchpean Tiny) and was totally content with it. But then I started working as a barista in a cafe which had a dead Lunar. I asked if I could take it home and try to fix it and they let me. After changing batteries it worked perfectly. So basically I had a perfectly working lunar for around 30usd. So no ego investing from my part but the Lunar is better in every way than the Searchpean. And it'd better be, it costs like 10 times as much. But now I exclusively use the Lunar. The responsiveness is like comparing a 144hz monitor to a 60hz one. Sure 60hz is plenty but 144hz is much nicer. Is it worth the cost? I'd say no. I used the Searchpean for almost 2 years before getting the Lunar and it's still working fine, I use for travel and such so no durability issues. I'd say, get what you can afford and don't feel the FOMO but the Lunar is a REEAALLY nice scale.
Random one - I do an 8oz flat white on the robot each day and the bookoo is suuuuuper tiny to rest a cup on, have you found a good 8oz bowl cup that fits nicely between the robot legs?
How about a video about gooseneck kettles examining quality of build, durability and customer service? My Fellow Stagg EKG base broke after two months and Fellow warranty service response has been glacially slow. I would never buy it again
I have the new Profitec Move on pre-order which has pretty much forced me to buy this scale as the cup clearance is so limited on the Move my Timemore Black mirror won't be any use at all but I'm happy to use it for my pour over scale or for weighing beans. But I think I'm going to need this scale for my espresso brewing on my new machine. Thanks for the video!
I have one with the BT Pressure kit monitor. It's easily the best set of scales I've tried. Bookoo's software is a bit clunky on Android, though. (even for Android). 😂
@@DaddyGotCoffee Good point. The whole app looks half baked on Android, compared to the iPhone. Some of the changes I make to the chart don't affect it. Sometimes it's unresponsive. But, the whole thing looks like a Visual Basic program from 2003. It's just not slick, especially when compared to the excellent product it supports. Hence "clunky"
@@FatNorthernBigotI have the BT pressure sensor as well but use the bean conqueror app (together with my Acaia Lunar) and it's been working ok most of the time on my Samsung Fold. I didn't bother with the bookoo app as well.
I’ve got a Lunar but could see an application for travel to have something nicer than the $30 Turin espresso scale which isn’t the most responsive. Bookoo and Lebrew have also been teasing a 80mm vertical burr grinder (still in development) that looks interesting on their social media this week.
9:34 - "It has a plug to stop water from getting in there, I actually wish the Lunar had one of those too" - you can get those for like $2 for a 10-pack. You don't have one on your Lunar, so seems like it's not really important anyway.
Interesting scale and I love that more great scales are coming in at a cheaper price. The size comparison to the Lunar just made me realize just how much smaller it is. For me that is a deal breaker.
No way I'm spending tons on a scale... I'd rather spend on coffee beans. They sell calibration weights to verify 20 grams is the same on a $20 scale or a $300 scale.
Have the miicoffee. Works great, customer service is fantastic. Paid $30. $200+ even $100 is just not acceptable to me. I have food scales that work great again $30-$50. Even the $15 espresso scale on Amz has lasted 2 years at my other home. So if they want $200, i should be able to toss it in a lake and it survives and a no questions asked lifetime warranty.
I’m looking for a second cheaper scale and feature wise the bookoo totally ticks the boxes but the design is just very opinionated. And unfortunately it’s one I don’t like. It’s very reminiscent of the nothing phone or the shargeek powerbanks.
I've had the pressure sensor and scale since just before Christmas. As someone else mentioned the Android app isn't great. The app will show both devices connected. I'll click start and nothing happens. Now it's just my routine to open the app, click start, close the app and repeat until it actually works. Kind of annoying. Especially the first time I went to pull my first shot and nothing happened. Another thing that should be noted. I had another question about the app. I never heard anything back from Bookoo. I never followed up. They have added circles on the scale to help locate the power and the tare buttons a little better.
I just want to mention the felicita arc, even if some say it is a lunar ripoff. On the other hand, Lunar is priced so high, because it had the monopol for so long (as did the Pearl) There have not been scales with a timer, let alone BT. Starting now, Acaia would have waaay more problems to get to the market with those calculations. I mean they ARE good. But they were also very lucky.
Got my Black Mirror Mini for about 40USD. Loving it so far. Not a fan of touch "buttons" though especially long touch is registered not very intuitively. I especially like that it has three displays: time, flow rate, and weight. This feature is very handy for almost any brew method
You see touch buttons on a lot of coffee scales because it's way easier to make them water resistant that way. Physical buttons would be an ingress point for liquids.
mmmm if you keep drowning your scale, a waterproof one becomes more worth for example. the timemore black mirror basic 2 for example on sale costs 31usd. worth.
If you've ever looked at Lunar's internals, you'd be wary of recommending it especially at that cosmic (pun intended price). Actually it's a crime to recommend it in 2025.
The Hatch coffee bag positioning in two of the shots looks a little too precise to be anything other than deliberate. If this is paid (or in kind) promotion you should call it out.
It’s not paid, but it was deliberate. I am a local fan of hatch and love sharing whatever coffee I’m currently enjoying in every video that I make. 🤙☕️
@@DaddyGotCoffee i meant to just measure one cup with the scale and leave the other one like normal on the drip tray. stop the extraction when you reach half of the normal double shot weight
Scales shouldn’t be that expensive. I don’t see the big difference or benefit compared to a 3bomber or Timemore. Besides the Bluetooth shouldn’t be a $200 up charge in 2024-25.
scale - $20 food scale - $30 COFFEE scale - $200 (they all do the same fuckin thing) Dont buy a coffee branded scale, just get a food scale with 0.1g accuracy, you will not get any additional functional benefit from a coffee scale. If youre just trying to flex your setup, or think the aesthetics are better, thats the only reason to spend 10x more on a scale.
depends on your needs. for OP he said the speed made it worth. after Waterlogging my 6th 16usd gDealer, I bought an acaia pearl s and never looked back.
@ do you know how much analytical balances are? this is a good price. i mean we don‘t have to agree that you find that worthwhile. i love my 231 dollar scale.
Always great to hear people giving good insight and reason why they would or would not recommend something. Your comment will sure be a great help. Thanks.
I use my BooKoo for everything because it's the most accurate scale I own. If I can't see the numbers because my item is too large, I just use the app.
Your content is consistently excellent. Your videos and reviews are no nonsense, they progress in a very logical manner, and I think you do a great job explaining your thoughts to newbies and seasoned coffee drinkers alike. Keep up the great work!
The little normcore espresso scale is really good for about $50 if I remember right. I have that for espresso and the full size largest timemore for pour over and those 2 together are about the price of a Bookoo.
If you don’t need the app connectivity that’s the way I would go. Both feel sufficiently water resistant as well.
The bookoo however will be a quick competitor to the Acaia scales.
the bookoo is basically just the (slightly better) acaia but without the brand-name upcharge.
I've had the $15 scale you show for my pour over (and other kitchen uses) and it's worked fine for years now. I use a cheap jeweler's scale to weigh the beans, though (a totally unnecessary .01g precision). I don't do espresso so I don't need the small size for the actual brewing.
Yeah. I’m on my third cheap ~$15 mini scale, the first two having broken, presumably due to moisture ingress.
Bought a Bookoo a few weeks ago and waiting for it to arrive (+ their wireless pressure profiler kit for Cafelat Robot).
I have bought sooooooooo many scales over the last year, which has cost me more than just buying a lunar (although as a Canadian...our dollar currently...ouch) and I stopped when I got the Themis. It's AWESOME. I have a V3 Gaggiuino setup at work and the Themis' BT connects immediately for brew-by-weight. It's so small and great, and I can't wait to see how it matures. I was super excited to see you review one, it's a great way to spend a saturday morning :).
I’m currently drinking the Hatch El Diviso as I watch this! What a coincidence! It’s so so so goooooood! The sweetest coffee I’ve ever tasted.
I got mine because I wanted a scale that small for my "travel" setup. We spend 3 days a week with my mother in-law as my wife and I only have a 4-day work week, and this scale matches up with my J-Ultra and Picopresso nicely for that. Though I find myself using it as my go-to scale at home too.
I'm not so concerned with splitting shots because that is only something I'd consider when making drinks in volume, often times for people who don't really care about coffee quality to begin with. In that case I just use volumetrics. If what I was looking for was a smaller volume of coffee, I'd pull two double ristrettos or simply use 12-14 gram baskets.
One feature I do miss from my cheap scale is the doble tab feature. If I double tapped the power button it would reset time and weight simultaneously. I've not found a way to do this on the Bookoo. It isn't a big deal, but I didn't realize how much I'd miss that feature.
Thank you for the well-made video, as always!
Really like coffee scale videos cause it helps to boost a bit views for my videos about cheap & smart scale. I can get why bookoo and acaia so expensive. It might have been much cheaper
For the last 2 years my daily driver is a Felicita Arc. It's well built, the battery lasts for 6 months
I need pour over function that the timer won’t stop when I lift the server to swirl, can it do that?
I used one from Aliexpress from the brand Fuego. It very good built, i just verified with standard weights at my lab (i’m chemist). $20 usd
Fuego scales from AliExpress are awesome
I must say that perhaps another down-side would be that you can't see time, weight and flow on the scale itself at the same time without the app, but otherwise I really got my sights set on getting this scale asap, it's really nice, especially for the price.
I know that precision is in service to repeatability, but how much does a scale that measures tenths improve the taste of a cup? I won't start espresso until the meticulous get gets delivered (it i break down and get a robot once it's back in stock), so all I'm doing is pour overs and the like with the OXO or Escali kitchen scales we've had forever. Once i get close, i add a couple beans at a time to make the scale tick up to the number i want. If I'm typically doing 15 or 20 gram doses, how much does the fact that i might be at 15.1 vs. 15.6 affect the coffee you're making? And how much does it affect espresso? I'm curious if anyone has done any testing over several rounds to see the impact.
No testing, but like you said, it's the difference between being off by up to a gram (+/- 0.5) vs being off by a tenth (+/- 0.05). For something measured in the dozens or hundreds like filter, it probably doesn't matter.
But espresso is typically measured as a 10-20 gram dose to a 20-50 output. When the numbers are smaller, the variance matters more.
And subjectively, the scale I own that only measures in whole grams is the worst scale I own on a lot of other metrics as well. You're usually not paying only for the precision
No regrets. This scale rocks. Love the size. Love the app. Love that it works with Bean Conqueror.
Another huge positive about this scale is that it connects to their own pressure sensor that is also reasonably priced compared to the competition. You can do excellent pressure profiling with the Flair or any espresso machine with an E61 grouphead. It also syncs with their app and apps like Beanconqueror. I'm not sure why reviewers aren't mentioning this.
One maddening thing with my scale is when the intermittent-dripstart results in the scale thinking the pull is complete (because of 'too much' time between drips), so it stops registering further weight even though there's a long way to go.
*I hope that's not the case with the Bookoo.
Hi. Here's BOOKOO. We've considered this issue. The auto mode currently works like this: To stop extraction, you can remove the cup (the timer stops when the flow rate is zero) OR press the left button briefly.
However, some users have suggested that they'd like the timer to stop when the liquid flow stops, even though this might cause the issue you mentioned. We're considering allowing users to OTA and customize their preferred auto mode through the app.
@@BooKooCoffee Thankyou for chiming in. It'd be great if flow-sensitive scales like these would disregard intermittent flow for the first ~10 seconds, and thereafter auto-stop when true stoppage of flow occurs. I don't use my current scale for espresso because of its tendency to auto-stop prematurely. It's more hassle than it's worth. And I'm not going to bother with another scale until I'm convinced of fundamental performance issues. I applaud Bookoo for making a more reasonably priced and small scale that fits in tighter quarters such as that of the Robot. I have a robot and La Pavoni lever. Real estate is at a premium. It'd be great if scale designers would also use a more rectangular design (longer fore-aft than side-to-side). This would allow more space for internal componentry, allow more space for somewhat larger cups (as was addressed in this vid), and yet still allow the scale to comfortably fit in small spaces.
BTW, what is "OTA"? Open to all? Over the air? Like open source?
@@ziptiefighter Thanks for sharing. "OTA" means Over-The-Air Technology, which allows users to upgrade the software of scale via Bluetooth. Just like app version upgrades.
The normcore pocket scale is like half the prize, a little larger, come with a case and wooden pads. If you don't care for IPX water resistance rating or Bluetooth connectivity, it is worth the look.
Their pocket scale looks very nice. I’m wanting something smaller and better quality for my Robot. Currently using the Weighman from Amazon. It’s just okay.
Water protection is crucial. I can’t count how many times I’ve had espresso or water drip all over a scale. Bookoo is nice for including a plug. Wish I got one with my Acaia.
I love this scale its accurate and it connects instantly to other apps, I find other apps are more intuitive than the bookoo app
Im using bookoo couple of weeks already, and its just great..I got the new design with white markers for buttons..its so small and cute..only the app design and functionality could be better..like missing timer (should be the same like weight and next to each other)..would be useful for pourover..maybe some more features and modes will come
how would u compare the bookoo vs the varia aku mini?
To be honest, I love the Acaia scales, but in a cafe setting I find them to be annoying sometimes. Once the top gets whet the touch buttons don't really work reliably.
I have a ~40$-ish scale, I do both espresso and filter. I've been thinking about upgrading to something that can track flow and is a bit faster then what I have. The price point of bookoo and the overall feature set is really appealing. What might be a deal breaker for me is the .1g accuracy. If I buy a new scale, I want it to do 0.01 so that I can do water recipes as well. My softened water is too soft and I want to try mineralizing it to get less sour espresso. If this had .01 g it would be perfect but this way it's probably a deal breaker for me. Also the size bothers me a bit. I'm doing mostly V60 for filter but if I have coffee that brews ok in a Chemex, I'll use it too and it just seems a bit too small for that. Also, I like that my current scale can double as a kitchen scale, I just put a bowl on it and I can weight anything. This one doesn't seem like it can do that.
What is criminal is how few people showcase MiiCoffee scales.
They make a plastic top, glass top and metal top for $35-50.
Also Acaia prices are absolutely criminal.
Been using mini Miicoffee plastic top scale for 2 years.
Gifted the metal top to my mom.
They are just great
@1943vermork I've had the metal one for about a year now, love it to bits
That weightman scale gets it done… I’ve been using it for the past 3 years
Around 3:20 you mentioned the next version of this will have little white circles. Is there more info about the next gen release date?
I got the one with circles yesterday, so it's out.
Got the scale and pressure sensor which I installed in BDB with Slayer modification. $200 investment for these toys. Using an accurate scale has helped get more consistent shots. Bluetooth and pressure sensor are really a bit overkill tech since the BDB has a perfectly good pressure indicator and timer.
As noted, the software application is good but has a few bugs with connectivity.
quick note: 10:10 The contemporary Lunar also shows you the remaining charge, when you shut it down. It is using the flow graph for that.
Oh that’s what that is…
I like how the scale read 420 💚
Yeah, it's nice to have, but donno man, price is still crazy. The thing is that it's a really nice product, but it doesn't really help making better coffee.
For espresso i use a scale advertised for jewels (similar to Weightman), price starts at 3$, 0.1g acc, very accurate, instant response, no timer (no problem), feels kinda flimsy but i have this one for a few years now.
For PO, the square one from the left at 1:53, does the job, it was 15$, also a few years old (though not instant response = not great for espresso, but good enough for PO).
The feeling of not caring if it gets broken, lost or whatever, is greater (*for me) than using an expensive much nicer product, but with the anxiety of braking it, losing or whatever.
Also saying Acaia Lunar buyers ends up loving them is kinda dabatable (i'm sure some do), but at that exorbitant price comes ego investing, you won't hear many saying "that was expensive af, i don't know what i was thinking".
Yup, while WAY better priced than a lunar with comparable quality, this is still not a cheap scale. Exactly why I wanted to mention some of those other options. I used a weightman for a couple years. The screen barely worked by the end but def got my moneys worth
I used to use a cheaper scale (Searchpean Tiny) and was totally content with it.
But then I started working as a barista in a cafe which had a dead Lunar.
I asked if I could take it home and try to fix it and they let me.
After changing batteries it worked perfectly.
So basically I had a perfectly working lunar for around 30usd.
So no ego investing from my part but the Lunar is better in every way than the Searchpean. And it'd better be, it costs like 10 times as much.
But now I exclusively use the Lunar. The responsiveness is like comparing a 144hz monitor to a 60hz one. Sure 60hz is plenty but 144hz is much nicer.
Is it worth the cost? I'd say no.
I used the Searchpean for almost 2 years before getting the Lunar and it's still working fine, I use for travel and such so no durability issues.
I'd say, get what you can afford and don't feel the FOMO but the Lunar is a REEAALLY nice scale.
there’s a lot of proprietary scale tech in the acaia scales.
so basically down to is that worth it to you.
A scale, a grinder, and freshly roasted beans. From there, any method of brewing of your choice gets you very decent coffee.
BooKoo is awesome. The best scale I have had. I had timemore black mirror mini and the number drift was horrible.
Random one - I do an 8oz flat white on the robot each day and the bookoo is suuuuuper tiny to rest a cup on, have you found a good 8oz bowl cup that fits nicely between the robot legs?
How about a video about gooseneck kettles examining quality of build, durability and customer service? My Fellow Stagg EKG base broke after two months and Fellow warranty service response has been glacially slow. I would never buy it again
I have the new Profitec Move on pre-order which has pretty much forced me to buy this scale as the cup clearance is so limited on the Move my Timemore Black mirror won't be any use at all but I'm happy to use it for my pour over scale or for weighing beans. But I think I'm going to need this scale for my espresso brewing on my new machine.
Thanks for the video!
I have one with the BT Pressure kit monitor. It's easily the best set of scales I've tried. Bookoo's software is a bit clunky on Android, though. (even for Android). 😂
Another commentor left some android issues (I’m on iPhone). Feel free to leave anything specific that would be helpful to other android users!
@@DaddyGotCoffee Good point. The whole app looks half baked on Android, compared to the iPhone. Some of the changes I make to the chart don't affect it. Sometimes it's unresponsive. But, the whole thing looks like a Visual Basic program from 2003. It's just not slick, especially when compared to the excellent product it supports. Hence "clunky"
@@FatNorthernBigotI have the BT pressure sensor as well but use the bean conqueror app (together with my Acaia Lunar) and it's been working ok most of the time on my Samsung Fold. I didn't bother with the bookoo app as well.
Don’t sleep on the Brewista Smart Scale II for $50. It’s amazing at twice the price and holds up in a commercial setting as well as the Lunar.
Jep, I have it. Works well. Doesn't have a bluetooth connection, but otherwise nice features.
I’ve got a Lunar but could see an application for travel to have something nicer than the $30 Turin espresso scale which isn’t the most responsive.
Bookoo and Lebrew have also been teasing a 80mm vertical burr grinder (still in development) that looks interesting on their social media this week.
My BooKoo froze after using it for less than two weeks. Waiting on tech support.
I'm watching your videos but some of them tend to go on the lengthy side?
9:34 - "It has a plug to stop water from getting in there, I actually wish the Lunar had one of those too" - you can get those for like $2 for a 10-pack. You don't have one on your Lunar, so seems like it's not really important anyway.
Torn between the bookoo and the varia aku mini 🤔
Interesting scale and I love that more great scales are coming in at a cheaper price. The size comparison to the Lunar just made me realize just how much smaller it is. For me that is a deal breaker.
I’m debating between this and the sub minimal sub scale. Any suggestions?
14:00 it connects with the Gaggiuino project too
Very nice review. Next on my list for when my Exagram for my Robot dies. Compatibility with Decent is a big plus.
No way I'm spending tons on a scale... I'd rather spend on coffee beans. They sell calibration weights to verify 20 grams is the same on a $20 scale or a $300 scale.
I wish it was just a bit bigger. I don't want to end up with two scales, one for espresso and another for pourover.
Have the miicoffee. Works great, customer service is fantastic. Paid $30. $200+ even $100 is just not acceptable to me. I have food scales that work great again $30-$50. Even the $15 espresso scale on Amz has lasted 2 years at my other home. So if they want $200, i should be able to toss it in a lake and it survives and a no questions asked lifetime warranty.
Bingo on that one. 200 bucks is waaaaaaay too much for a scale and it better have a no-questions asked Costco like warranty.
Nice review! Really enjoy your videos!
Thank you!
The new batch too
They have the Samantha II in that cafe clip you show… i really wish there was a review out there for them.
The case for the lunar costs more than regular people’s coffee setups lol!
correct.
2.38 b75 and a kin grinder p2 is like 21 something. setup is under 23USD
I’m looking for a second cheaper scale and feature wise the bookoo totally ticks the boxes but the design is just very opinionated. And unfortunately it’s one I don’t like. It’s very reminiscent of the nothing phone or the shargeek powerbanks.
I've had the pressure sensor and scale since just before Christmas. As someone else mentioned the Android app isn't great.
The app will show both devices connected. I'll click start and nothing happens. Now it's just my routine to open the app, click start, close the app and repeat until it actually works. Kind of annoying. Especially the first time I went to pull my first shot and nothing happened.
Another thing that should be noted. I had another question about the app. I never heard anything back from Bookoo. I never followed up.
They have added circles on the scale to help locate the power and the tare buttons a little better.
Thanks for this feedback! I haven’t had this issue on iPhone. Thanks for dropping this for android users!
Exciting Bookoo is a solid scale
I'm in China and I daily a Robot. It sells for equivalent of $79 here. Guess I gotta.
maybe it‘s region locked for good.
do not see on aliexpress
Which mobile app for the scale is "actually decent?" The one listed in the Google Play Store seems to be mostly Chinese language.
I’m using their iOS app
@DaddyGotCoffee in case anyone stumbles on this, I downloaded the Android app and it's in English, despite the foreign language screenshots!
Nice review. Been looking at this for travel will it fit an aeropress with a flow control or prismo easily?
Love your tattoo. What does it mean?
Suggestion: Turn the scale 45°.
I just want to mention the felicita arc, even if some say it is a lunar ripoff.
On the other hand, Lunar is priced so high, because it had the monopol for so long (as did the Pearl)
There have not been scales with a timer, let alone BT.
Starting now, Acaia would have waaay more problems to get to the market with those calculations.
I mean they ARE good.
But they were also very lucky.
Got my Black Mirror Mini for about 40USD. Loving it so far. Not a fan of touch "buttons" though especially long touch is registered not very intuitively. I especially like that it has three displays: time, flow rate, and weight. This feature is very handy for almost any brew method
You see touch buttons on a lot of coffee scales because it's way easier to make them water resistant that way. Physical buttons would be an ingress point for liquids.
Thing is, paying more for the scale won't make the coffee better. So anything over 30 bucks should probably go towards the grinder, for example.
Thing is: the bookoo scales are ment to fit in the flair leavers. That’s it. If you can find a scale that’ll fit there for 30 more power to you.
This is true unless you already have a grinder. None of these accessories make significantly better coffee, but they are fun.
mmmm if you keep drowning your scale, a waterproof one becomes more worth for example.
the timemore black mirror basic 2 for example on sale costs 31usd. worth.
It will if you’re using a manual lever and you want to flow profile. It’s much easier to track flow rate graphs when you have Bluetooth capabilities.
Good video, well done!
Thank you!
looks good, still feel like it should be half the price it is
If you've ever looked at Lunar's internals, you'd be wary of recommending it especially at that cosmic (pun intended price). Actually it's a crime to recommend it in 2025.
$18 Fuego scales FTW.
This would be great for my robot 🤖
looking at the interiors the margins for that scale are ridicolous... you could make one at home.
The Hatch coffee bag positioning in two of the shots looks a little too precise to be anything other than deliberate. If this is paid (or in kind) promotion you should call it out.
It’s not paid, but it was deliberate. I am a local fan of hatch and love sharing whatever coffee I’m currently enjoying in every video that I make. 🤙☕️
After presented to scales with screen on the side - I will never return to scales with top mounted screens!
This is one thing I really like about the black mirror nano
Looks like it's Inspired by the nothing phones
Let me save you guys a lot of money: Amazon, Maestri House Mini Coffe Scale with Timer $39.99 with 15% coupon. Not this "Gucci" branded stuff
why would you need 2 cups on a scale ? why not just measure the split shot and multiply it ?
Lots of machine portafilters are setup to split shots. Just included because it’s a common use case.
@@DaddyGotCoffee i meant to just measure one cup with the scale and leave the other one like normal on the drip tray. stop the extraction when you reach half of the normal double shot weight
When they make a larger version, they should call it BooKoo BigBoy.
I wish the video had 10 minutes instead of almost 20, seems like it's possible with a bit more structured script.
Thanks for the feedback - always evaluating format!
@DaddyGotCoffee happy to hear it's appreciated, it was meant well. the video was useful and interesting otherwise and I like your presentation 👍
this is the quality ACAIA should be selling. ACAIA is just way over priced and aesthetic.
Scales shouldn’t be that expensive. I don’t see the big difference or benefit compared to a 3bomber or Timemore. Besides the Bluetooth shouldn’t be a $200 up charge in 2024-25.
scale - $20
food scale - $30
COFFEE scale - $200 (they all do the same fuckin thing)
Dont buy a coffee branded scale, just get a food scale with 0.1g accuracy, you will not get any additional functional benefit from a coffee scale. If youre just trying to flex your setup, or think the aesthetics are better, thats the only reason to spend 10x more on a scale.
depends on your needs. for OP he said the speed made it worth. after Waterlogging my 6th 16usd gDealer, I bought an acaia pearl s and never looked back.
@@brattingprincess the only need these fill is the need to have less money in your bank
@@cssmanheadshot u do u bb.
i love my acaia pearl S that I spent 231usd on. i use it nearly everyday. sometimes multiple times a day.
@@brattingprincess sorry they scammed you lol
@ do you know how much analytical balances are? this is a good price.
i mean we don‘t have to agree that you find that worthwhile. i love my 231 dollar scale.
Too expensive unless you want to attempt world championship or experimenting in new flavors.
Got a new one for $10 and it works quite well. No need to buy branded. It's just impractical.
Criminally because of price? Overpriced as f...
Df54 cost that... Think about it
IT'S JUST A SCALE 😂
18:10 18:10
I'm not spending more than 50 bucks for a scale. Also, I prefer analogue scales. Not having to have batteries made my life so much easier.
Drug dealers watching this like smh lol
🤣💨
If you need a scale for your coffee you just might be a bit too pretentious
Holy carbon copy lol
Yay first view!
Cheers! 😁
A coffee scale? Get a life.
Overpriced coffee gadget.
What is better to buy ,than this ?
Always great to hear people giving good insight and reason why they would or would not recommend something. Your comment will sure be a great help. Thanks.
Still on the pricey side, try Wacaco exagram pro, had one for a while and it's a great middle ground
I’ve used the old Exagram but not the pro yet!