What a gift this lesson was and what a terrific teacher you are! I was just laying out my practice curriculum for the coming year and I thought I'd find a comprehensive approach to 4ths and BOOM! there you were. Thanks Jared. I'll be checking in regularly. Happy New Year.
You have inspired me to start over and really ingrain the foundational concepts that make the guitar the elegant instrument that it is. I sincerely thank you for your posts and your thoughtful approach to instruction.
I just finished your Chords on Command course and am wanting to go beyond the chords and learn to improvise. This lesson was very useful. I’m sure I’ll return to it again and again as I advance. I’m definitely at the beginner stage when it comes to playing scales on guitar.Thanks Jared.
This has gotta be the most impactful lesson I've ever seen but I'm sure that partly had to do with where I'm at in my journey. If I had watched this at some earlier time it would have slid past right over my head. I always wondered what the guiding logic was when I heard players do chord progressions that just had a pleasing connection throughout and now it makes perfect sense that they were probably using the circle off fifths and fourths. Once I get this under my fingers well enough I'm thinking it'll try to use the circles in custom ways such as going by internals other than single steps. Maybe double, or triple, or double and triple would also find pleasurable rings to them. Hats off to you Jared
@@satchrules101in case you still don’t know, it’s being called the G form because the chord shape is the same shape as an open G chord. For example, a C chord in the ‘G form’ is when you play the E strings fretted on the 8th fret, the A string fretted at the 7th & the D, G & B strings on the 6th fret.
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Thankyou very much for these tips! I saw them late. Alsoobserved. I don't know if you mentioned this or not, as the keys are laid out in the Circle of fourths. The patterns also change in the patterns of fourths. For E.g the G form pattern goes to C form which is a forth, then the E form goes to A form & then D form in that particular fret, Also a helpful tip to remember which patterns to apply on which string while switching keys.
Truly enjoyed the video & learned quite a bit. Only sad that I didn't learn this when I was young. Started playing in 62 but from 80's till about a yr ago didn't play because of personnel issues. Always understood chords, reading music, progressions etc but when it comes to CAGED, Modes, theory nada. Anyway thanks for the help. As we retired Marines say, SEMPER FI. 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
@@elevatorconversation Excellent! You'll be in great shape if you can play through all the scales like that in level 2 and know what root you're playing off of. Awesome! :)
Follow up video on how to work on the five scale forms and switch between the different shapes all in one key: th-cam.com/video/HOflPEA6eZM/w-d-xo.html
Glad I discovered your channel. As an 'ear' player my technique has usually been to grab a backing track with the preferred key/scale/mode, and then I'll either use the scale layout in the video (if has) or the guitar scale app I have on my phone. I always go to around the 12th fret position and see what's there if there's a pattern. Once I get the feel and sound of the scale I just use my ear to flesh it out all over the fretboard and then it's pretty much stuck in my brain and usable, but that doesn't excuse my lack of theory which is why I'm here.
Liked and subscribed. Excellent, intelligent subject matter. It will take me time to digest it, but someone finally is explaining how to use fundamental theory on the guitar.
Hi Jared, Thank You for these. Question: at 16:05 when you start playing root + [2] notes. The notes you are playing don't match the notes on the form or am I missing something?
How I'm remembering these is to just find the nearest basic chord shape that can be built after the 5th fret (where the root note is the lowest note) and playing whatever degrees fit based on the chord degrees. Switching between keys will take some practice though since my knowledge of which degree is where isn't as strong as I would like it.
Hi theese are some brilliant tips and i’m alresdy noticing improvements! i used to just go over scales in position up and down and it was doing no good for me, Thank you very much! Just wondering how long should i spend a day on these excersizes?
So is this playing i all keys in almost one position? DO you have a way to do this with 3 notes per string scales, also in Harmonic and Melodic minor, blues scales etc?
Hello sir I am not able to understand level 4 & 5 exercise will you please provide me the tabs used in both exercise or you suggest me anything so I can complete this lesson till level 5 exercise. I have learned a lot from you thank you so much.
As someone relatively new to guitar, this was an extremely helpful video. Thanks for sharing. I wonder if you might explain the relationship between a key and its scale form. For instance, why should I use the E Scale Form when playing in the keys of A, B flat, and B. Why not utilize the G scale form? Another way of asking this: what is the inherent relationship between the scale form and the key? Also, could we not see these scale patterns as modal variations? The A scale form seems like a version of the Lydian, just leaving out the initial F note on the low E string. Thanks again. I really enjoy your channel. Its super informative. Has helped me a lot!
He asks us to focus on the area of the fretboard where the index finger will be on frets 4,5, or 6 when beginning from the thickest string. The exercise is to get us to play all 12 keys in the same neighborhood to avoid jumping up and down. the fretboard The relationship of the scale shape and key here is only a constraint for the lesson - play all 12 keys in the same neighborhood. To accomplish that we figure out which shape is available to us for each key in the specified neighborhood. Outside of this lesson, we use the shape that makes the most sense for the musical ideas in play at the time. Most guitar solos for rock and metal generally start closer to the nut on thicker strings and then end on the thinnest strings closest to the bridge providing a crescendo and climax. modal variations - If we play a major scale, we have a root or tonic note that is "home", having the "strongest gravitational pull". If we decide to make the tonic the 4th note in the scale instead of the 1 but still play the same shapes, this is Lydian, a relative mode. Jared and many others have videos about modes.
This started out really promising with the suggestion of which of the 5 positions to use depending on the interval one is changing to but other than learning where the tonic is in each position I cant see why its not the same as learning anything "by wrote" rather than shining a light on the understanding. For example the exercises dont appear to help with understanding that if you have to play a 6 5 4 1 how to easily move from a none tonic note of one scale to the next any differently to just learning caged and the tonics there in. Also a lot of rockier stuff is minor key based and I fully understand its the same thing just a different tonic note but I cant see how this helps me understand the relationships any differently to the way its traditionally taught. I love your demeanor but am I missing something ?
I definitely understand the value of learning this and also understand that naming each position by number can be confusing but I do not get what makes the G position the G position or the A position the A position etc. I realize you are using the letters of the caged system but what attribute gives each position it's letter assignment. I don't fully understand the caged system so this may seem a silly question but if I understood this it might make things easier.
I listened to your whole lesson. Been playing guitar and bass for 52 years, all styles and genres, for free and for a fee. Your online instruction is one of the best. Thanks
Thanks! The way you organize information is outstanding. I thought I had made fairly good progress with the major scale but really helped open up new vistas. 🙏
It takes a whole lot of discipline and determination to force one's self to stay in one or two positions instead of jumping to familiar key positions when improving but it's so worth the effort. It opens up so many doors to spontaneous, melodic lines.
I can jam along to the Circle of Fourths with pretty good accuracy, but I don’t understand the strict adherence of the “forms.” I learned the major scale/modes in 3 note per string movements and know my 1 note per string arpeggios so the forms I am struggling to understand. Is it just a matter of the challenge of staying in the same general position?
Yeah, the point is just to stay roughly in the same position to connect keys without big jumps on the fretboard. You can apply the same concept with 3NPS system or on any other position on the fretboard. This is just the way I do it :)
@@soundguitar thanks for the answer! I keep coming back to this lesson since I found it a few days ago. I’ve been improvising with progressions I’ve written and tried to follow the changes, but this is the first time I tried following the circle of 4ths, something I wasn’t entirely familiar with and I was surprised how my well my ear led me and once I started remembering the chord changes I could anticipate where I was going. But holding that generally position is quite challenging, so I’ll keep trying, it’s a great challenge and is breaking me out of my regular scalar patterns.
Hi Jared! This is awesome! So for the minor scale I can also apply this but just using the relative minor chords based on the cycle of fourths . Correct? So C Maj would be Amin?
Jared, I've seen the master level exercise described before and understood the value but it seemed so daunting. Your preamble of the Circle of 4ths and the levels of difficulty make this approachable. Great lesson. Thanks from this nerd and new subscriber.
This is great! Thank you sir! I’ve been working on interval skips and sequences using the caged system and while learning to damp out unwanted string noise. But this is another form of practicing I can add to continue building knowledge which seems to be very important. Thanks again for sharing this valuable information. Best wishes
Great lesson and exercises, every time I pickup my guitar more things keep clicking about the entire fretboard rather than this area that we are focusing on. The guitar is really an elegant instrument. For anybody having trouble visualizing the scale forms there's a good lesson by Jared here: th-cam.com/video/-O55NE42HZE/w-d-xo.html
Hi Arren, yay! Very glad to hear that this is what you were looking for! :) Thanks for the comments and questions and let me know if you need anything else anytime
I know this is an old video Jared but I’m just getting to this level. Love all your videos and teaching methods. Sorry if this is a simple question but I’m baffled. When you do the order of 4ths, C F Bb etc, I can play the corresponding major scales in all positions following your chart. However, I find it hard to remember all the position names C F Bb etc for all the keys. Then say if I wanted to play A on the 6th string I understand the 12 key pattern would remain the same but I would need to know all those position names. Is there a simple way to remember them?
Heyy!`Thanks for the lesson. I had one question.... you told for what keys what form will be used ON THE 5TH POSITION. But what about the other positions?? Like how do we know what form to use for what key...say on the 7th position
Thx Jared....new to your channel and just finding my way around. looking to get to a proficient level of playing but still along way to go. Your lessons are very comprehensive and very well presented. i think the level of detail you go into to explain what your trying to get across sets you apart from other channels. i look forward to checking out more lessons and then committing to you if youre my ticket. thx for being there
great lesson!! I wish I'd learned your fingerings for the scale forms instead of the "stretch" forms....your exercise for memorizing the circle of fourths is great!
All of your videos are tremendously helpful. This one in particular hit home for me and I think it's one of your best. I struggle with making the changes as keys change in jazz tunes. This program is going to help me a lot. Can you please post the five major scale forms chart that you used in the video? Also, did you create the iReal Pro backing track or is it available on their site? Thanks for all you do for us students!
Okay, Level One. What scale PATTERN are we using. Are we only using the G PATTERN or are we using the Chart to the right that you have to switch Patterns with each New Low Root Note??? Edit: okay yes, you use the different scales according to the first note with the different mark on it. Okay. Got it. Been practicing and this is the best video on this ever. You really helped me get to the next level. Thank you.
Hi, I'm just wondering if there's an easier way to find all the forms of one scale, let's say C scale, all over the fretboard? Or if you just kind of have to fiddle around with it? I've learned what you've shown here, and it's nice that it's contained within a few frets, but I'd like to also know where all the other scales are on the fretboard. I did find (i think) all the forms for at least one scale. Thanks!
Excellent question! I'll do a follow up video specifically on mastering the major scale forms all within one key instead of changing keys. It will draw from this method by having us view the location and scale form off of the roots as we did here. In short, you'll find five roots of the same note along the neck where you'll base your five scale forms off of for that key. I'll explain in detail in the follow up video, but hopefully that can get you started thinking about it. Thanks for the request!
Here's that follow up video: th-cam.com/video/HOflPEA6eZM/w-d-xo.html On how to work on the scales forms all within one key and switch between the different shapes. Hope it helps! let me know if you have any other questions any time.
O ok. I am totally self learning. I tried cord and scales without success. Earlier this year I started listening to music and started to play finger style, single notes and getting a right. Hence why I asked my question. Thanks for your lessons.
Been playing for years, self taught, my desire is to learn theory, scales, whatever. To become a better player but your beginner shit lost me from the get go. I mean I can play Allmans note for note but I don't know a damn thing about scales, circles of notes, etc.
I have found your channel just yesterday and there is so much interesting content. But I would like to start with something and the amount seems really overwhelming. Is your chord course a good place to start? Is there any other series that may help a somewhat beginner guitarist?
Perfect for my level, thanks so much! To add some variety to my backing track for parts 4-5, I did the following, 4 counts C M7,, 4 counts Am, 4 counts F M7, 4 counts Dm and so on, always interspersing the relative minor. Same scales of course! Haven't done his Minor video yet but this is fun!
I really like your teaching methods. My question is; how do you determine a 7th,9th,11 th,13, whether it's on the top or bottom strings? Can it be either or? Thanks 😊
Great question. Chord extensions like that can be anywhere on any string. Check out my chord extensions explanation video for more thorough info on that stuff if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/7V2bUFmaYEY/w-d-xo.html. cheers! :) - Jared
at 16:31 im confused by the diagrams. What are the letters on 5 different scale forms mean? as in the top has c then next has f etc. Because if i'm not mistaken the F on the C form diagram is on the wrong fret. how is the E form supposed to include the key of B if it doesn't contain the B on the 6th string 7th fret? I feel like i must be misunderstanding something here
Thanks for the questions! Sorry that it was confusing! The letters on the actual fret notes in the scale diagrams are the root notes of the scales and they are the exact note of that fret. The F on the C form diagram is on the correct fret: Fret 8 on the 5th string and fret 6 on the 2nd string are both F and that's where it's written. The E form is to be used for the key of B major by moving it accordingly (up a half step from where the diagram is written). I hope that helps. Please let me know if I can help clarify further. -Jared
You're very welcome William. Thanks for watching. - it's called a "dynarette". I just ordered it online, if you search that term you'll find lots of places to get one. I use it every day :)
Thanks, Blake! I have tons of videos here on the YT channel, some of them go pretty deep, and then I also have courses on my site www.soundguitarlessons.com/store. Thanks for asking :)
I play 3 notes per strinng and the way I work out the different keys is remembering the major chords 145 are always the same pattern. No matter what key you are in. If you just remember 3 chords you cover nearly the whole neck. I got about halfway through this video before I got a bit lost though. I can see the advantage of being able to do this, but my brain is not engaging LOL.
Hi Jared, I'm wondering, these are the pentatonic major scales right? as opposed to regular major scales (sorry, don't know the theory word for them) I would play on the piano. I am trying to learn those scales, but saw your video. Is there an advantage to learning these scales as opposed to those? Also, just curious why you want us to start here on the fifth fret. Thanks for the video lesson!
Like you said in the other comment, yep, these are "regular" major scales. The technical term would be "diatonic" major scales, meaning that they include all seven notes of the key, as opposed to pentatonic which only include five notes out of seven. There are other types of scales too, like octatonic, which have eight notes and are called "synthetic" scales which mean that they don't exist in any key but are artificially manufactured. Great scales to focus on at first are: Major diatonic, natural minor diatonic, and major and minor pentatonic. You can do this same process with any scale type and once you do it will be easier to apply it to all kinds of other scales as you wish in the future, like harmonic or melodic minor, or modes of scales.
@@soundguitar thanks for the explanation. Also, are you going to make a video about how to learn and play the pentatonic scales? ;) if not, I'll figure it out I'm sure. Just thought I'd ask. Thank you, thank you! You're the BEST!!!
@@arrenlenau3077 Thanks for the requests! They really help me decide what videos to make next. I have couple scale videos coming up. I'll include a note about how to turn normal scales into pentatonic scales during those videos. It's really just that if you take away the 2 and 4 of a major scale you have the pentatonic scale :) But explain more in those upcoming videos and talk about how they can be used as major or minor (which uses the same logic as the modes video approach). Don't hesitate to request a full-on pentatonic scales video even after those if you still want further guidance on them. And of course let me know if you have any other questions anytime :)
Great video mate, really re-motivated me to finally learn guitar theory. Hoping you could help me with one question I had though. Google tells me the notes of an A Major scale are A B C# D E F# G#. I can see from your diagrams that A major should follow E Form. E Form seems to start correctly on the note of A however the next note in E Form pattern is Bb instead of the expected B note?
Interesting! but I noticed that your 5 diagrams for the Major scale does not match up with the 5 patterns of the Major scale that I searched on google for? (I could not remember in detail all the patterns), I have no idea why this is?
Awesome, thanks for sharing it! I really appreciate it. This is one of the earliest videos I made and I like the method and exercises a lot, but not a lot of people get exposed to it. Glad you liked it. Cheers, -Jared
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In order to mute easily remember what notes map to any form it seems you could say, rooted on the 6th and 5th strings, the ones higher up the neck use the pinky roots (G, C forms), while the others use the first or second finger (E, A forms), and the ones rooted on the 4th string all use the D form
Lots of instructions out there on open position.. Which is great for folk and country. Lots of methods for shedding, rock and blues... Lots of good classical stuff. This is the first time I have come across a good system for getting started on major scales for people interested in jazz. Good job!
You have a talent for simplifying the complex. Thank you. I learned the major scales patterns as modal patterns. (Oh, horror! 🙂) I know that raises the hackles of about half the guitar-teaching community since modes require a magical incantation and chords to before they can be distinguished from scales. But since the seven modes derive from the seven notes of the major scale and there are seven patterns for the seven modes, why only five patterns/shapes for the "non-modal" major scale? (When I look at the first pattern above, I see the pattern/shape for the Lydian mode. But since it's the "C" scale, the 4th degree of the indicated pattern/shape is NOT raised, so I know it is not a modal scale. But that does not answer, "Why only 5 shapes/patterns for non-modal scales?") Some times the obvious, isn't. Well, at least to me.
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So glad I found your channel this is what I needed!! Thanks so much I appreciate you 🥂
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What a gift this lesson was and what a terrific teacher you are! I was just laying out my practice curriculum for the coming year and I thought I'd find a comprehensive approach to 4ths and BOOM! there you were. Thanks Jared. I'll be checking in regularly. Happy New Year.
Most helpful lesson on youtube when it comes to learning scales.
Thanks for sharing!
Yay Glad it was helpful! ~~ Cheers, -Jared
You have inspired me to start over and really ingrain the foundational concepts that make the guitar the elegant instrument that it is. I sincerely thank you for your posts and your thoughtful approach to instruction.
I just finished your Chords on Command course and am wanting to go beyond the chords and learn to improvise. This lesson was very useful. I’m sure I’ll return to it again and again as I advance. I’m definitely at the beginner stage when it comes to playing scales on guitar.Thanks Jared.
Excellent video lesson, very extensive.
Thanks! :)
Jesus, this quality content for free! You’re a goddam saint, man, thanks a bunch😄
Glad you like it, thanks so much!! :) -Jared
anything you teach online is amazing.thanks
That's very kind, thanks!
Really enjoyed how you put this together. Might approach this scale practice with other positions and using the Minor Scales. Thank You
Definitely! I do this with all scale types to get them down :) -Jared
This has gotta be the most impactful lesson I've ever seen but I'm sure that partly had to do with where I'm at in my journey. If I had watched this at some earlier time it would have slid past right over my head. I always wondered what the guiding logic was when I heard players do chord progressions that just had a pleasing connection throughout and now it makes perfect sense that they were probably using the circle off fifths and fourths. Once I get this under my fingers well enough I'm thinking it'll try to use the circles in custom ways such as going by internals other than single steps. Maybe double, or triple, or double and triple would also find pleasurable rings to them. Hats off to you Jared
These are the most engaging and challenging guitar lessons I have come across, thank you so much!
Happy to hear that, glad you like them, thanks so much! :)
Just curious why it’s called G form and do on ?
@@satchrules101in case you still don’t know, it’s being called the G form because the chord shape is the same shape as an open G chord. For example, a C chord in the ‘G form’ is when you play the E strings fretted on the 8th fret, the A string fretted at the 7th & the D, G & B strings on the 6th fret.
@@psivil.disobedience thx 🙏 for explaining
Really enjoyed this lesson. Nice approach. Plan on using this method in other positions and different scales. Thank You
Glad you enjoyed it! This is one of my very first videos and I love this exercise series and approach. Glad you found it! Cheers, -Jared
Here's a complementary video I made about how to learn and practice modes of scales: th-cam.com/video/YPSUVZiUUYQ/w-d-xo.html
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Bro, you are awesome you explain everything in such detail
I learned the Segovia scale lesson yet I think this is even better. Back to work 😅. Thank you Master Jered 💯👍🎸
Amazing lesson!
Thanks! 😃
Thanks!
Thank you so much!! 🙏
Thankyou very much for these tips! I saw them late. Alsoobserved. I don't know if you mentioned this or not, as the keys are laid out in the Circle of fourths. The patterns also change in the patterns of fourths. For E.g the G form pattern goes to C form which is a forth, then the E form goes to A form & then D form in that particular fret, Also a helpful tip to remember which patterns to apply on which string while switching keys.
Truly enjoyed the video & learned quite a bit. Only sad that I didn't learn this when I was young. Started playing in 62 but from 80's till about a yr ago didn't play because of personnel issues. Always understood chords, reading music, progressions etc but when it comes to CAGED, Modes, theory nada. Anyway thanks for the help. As we retired Marines say, SEMPER FI. 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
Which of the five levels is the right one for you to be practicing right now?
Thanks again Jared! this is awesome. I think level 2 is right for me, because I want to be practicing the whole scale of each.
@@elevatorconversation Excellent! You'll be in great shape if you can play through all the scales like that in level 2 and know what root you're playing off of. Awesome! :)
Thank you for sharing. It’s very instructive and inspiring to improve 😊Cheers !
How does this have so little views, amazing tutorial!
Thank you! Glad you liked it. :)
Follow up video on how to work on the five scale forms and switch between the different shapes all in one key: th-cam.com/video/HOflPEA6eZM/w-d-xo.html
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Glad I discovered your channel. As an 'ear' player my technique has usually been to grab a backing track with the preferred key/scale/mode, and then I'll either use the scale layout in the video (if has) or the guitar scale app I have on my phone. I always go to around the 12th fret position and see what's there if there's a pattern. Once I get the feel and sound of the scale I just use my ear to flesh it out all over the fretboard and then it's pretty much stuck in my brain and usable, but that doesn't excuse my lack of theory which is why I'm here.
Great lesson. Just mapped out my next year of practice, or may be ten years 😂
🤣 Nice! Thanks for watching, Tim :)
Thanks!
Thanks so much, Tres! :) 🙏
Liked and subscribed. Excellent, intelligent subject matter. It will take me time to digest it, but someone finally is explaining how to use fundamental theory on the guitar.
Hi Jared, Thank You for these. Question: at 16:05 when you start playing root + [2] notes. The notes you are playing don't match the notes on the form or am I missing something?
13:20 Circle of Fourths:ROOTS
15:20 5 levels of mastery
15:30 level 1 17:18 play-through
15:55 three charts combined
17:41 LEVEL 2
Mastery!!
How I'm remembering these is to just find the nearest basic chord shape that can be built after the 5th fret (where the root note is the lowest note) and playing whatever degrees fit based on the chord degrees. Switching between keys will take some practice though since my knowledge of which degree is where isn't as strong as I would like it.
Hi theese are some brilliant tips and i’m alresdy noticing improvements! i used to just go over scales in position up and down and it was doing no good for me, Thank you very much! Just wondering how long should i spend a day on these excersizes?
So is this playing i all keys in almost one position? DO you have a way to do this with 3 notes per string scales, also in Harmonic and Melodic minor, blues scales etc?
Hello sir I am not able to understand level 4 & 5 exercise will you please provide me the tabs used in both exercise or you suggest me anything so I can complete this lesson till level 5 exercise. I have learned a lot from you thank you so much.
As someone relatively new to guitar, this was an extremely helpful video. Thanks for sharing. I wonder if you might explain the relationship between a key and its scale form. For instance, why should I use the E Scale Form when playing in the keys of A, B flat, and B. Why not utilize the G scale form? Another way of asking this: what is the inherent relationship between the scale form and the key?
Also, could we not see these scale patterns as modal variations? The A scale form seems like a version of the Lydian, just leaving out the initial F note on the low E string.
Thanks again. I really enjoy your channel. Its super informative. Has helped me a lot!
He asks us to focus on the area of the fretboard where the index finger will be on frets 4,5, or 6 when beginning from the thickest string. The exercise is to get us to play all 12 keys in the same neighborhood to avoid jumping up and down. the fretboard The relationship of the scale shape and key here is only a constraint for the lesson - play all 12 keys in the same neighborhood. To accomplish that we figure out which shape is available to us for each key in the specified neighborhood. Outside of this lesson, we use the shape that makes the most sense for the musical ideas in play at the time. Most guitar solos for rock and metal generally start closer to the nut on thicker strings and then end on the thinnest strings closest to the bridge providing a crescendo and climax.
modal variations - If we play a major scale, we have a root or tonic note that is "home", having the "strongest gravitational pull". If we decide to make the tonic the 4th note in the scale instead of the 1 but still play the same shapes, this is Lydian, a relative mode. Jared and many others have videos about modes.
This started out really promising with the suggestion of which of the 5 positions to use depending on the interval one is changing to but other than learning where the tonic is in each position I cant see why its not the same as learning anything "by wrote" rather than shining a light on the understanding.
For example the exercises dont appear to help with understanding that if you have to play a 6 5 4 1 how to easily move from a none tonic note of one scale to the next any differently to just learning caged and the tonics there in.
Also a lot of rockier stuff is minor key based and I fully understand its the same thing just a different tonic note but I cant see how this helps me understand the relationships any differently to the way its traditionally taught.
I love your demeanor but am I missing something ?
I definitely understand the value of learning this and also understand that naming each position by number can be confusing but I do not get what makes the G position the G position or the A position the A position etc. I realize you are using the letters of the caged system but what attribute gives each position it's letter assignment. I don't fully understand the caged system so this may seem a silly question but if I understood this it might make things easier.
I listened to your whole lesson. Been playing guitar and bass for 52 years, all styles and genres, for free and for a fee. Your online instruction is one of the best. Thanks
do you have a place i can print this out and practice it? or do i have to come to this video everytime?
Thanks! The way you organize information is outstanding. I thought I had made fairly good progress with the major scale but really helped open up new vistas. 🙏
Thank you so much!! 🙏
It takes a whole lot of discipline and determination to force one's self to stay in one or two positions instead of jumping to familiar key positions when improving but it's so worth the effort. It opens up so many doors to spontaneous, melodic lines.
I can jam along to the Circle of Fourths with pretty good accuracy, but I don’t understand the strict adherence of the “forms.” I learned the major scale/modes in 3 note per string movements and know my 1 note per string arpeggios so the forms I am struggling to understand. Is it just a matter of the challenge of staying in the same general position?
Yeah, the point is just to stay roughly in the same position to connect keys without big jumps on the fretboard. You can apply the same concept with 3NPS system or on any other position on the fretboard. This is just the way I do it :)
@@soundguitar thanks for the answer! I keep coming back to this lesson since I found it a few days ago. I’ve been improvising with progressions I’ve written and tried to follow the changes, but this is the first time I tried following the circle of 4ths, something I wasn’t entirely familiar with and I was surprised how my well my ear led me and once I started remembering the chord changes I could anticipate where I was going. But holding that generally position is quite challenging, so I’ll keep trying, it’s a great challenge and is breaking me out of my regular scalar patterns.
Hi Jared! This is awesome! So for the minor scale I can also apply this but just using the relative minor chords based on the cycle of fourths . Correct? So C Maj would be Amin?
Good question! Yep, you can absolutely apply this strategy to the minor scales/chords. ** Thanks for asking -Jared
Jared, I've seen the master level exercise described before and understood the value but it seemed so daunting. Your preamble of the Circle of 4ths and the levels of difficulty make this approachable. Great lesson. Thanks from this nerd and new subscriber.
How can I (we ) get a FREE PDF: of the 5 Level system? It;s hard to follow your examples from the Video.
This is great! Thank you sir! I’ve been working on interval skips and sequences using the caged system and while learning to damp out unwanted string noise. But this is another form of practicing I can add to continue building knowledge which seems to be very important. Thanks again for sharing this valuable information. Best wishes
I dont quit understand what if you are playing the g shape on the 12th fret what keys are you using then?
Nevermind understand it now
Saul the good man
Thanks
Thanks so much, Alan! 🙏 :)
Your content is outstanding Jared, I have improved significantly in less than a month, keep it up! 👍
Wow, that's so great to hear! Thanks for the feedback and congrats on your progress! ~~ cheers, Jared
Great lesson and exercises, every time I pickup my guitar more things keep clicking about the entire fretboard rather than this area that we are focusing on. The guitar is really an elegant instrument.
For anybody having trouble visualizing the scale forms there's a good lesson by Jared here: th-cam.com/video/-O55NE42HZE/w-d-xo.html
oh sorry, haha, I finished the video and it made more sense. "regular" major scales. lol. thanks again!!! this is exactly what I was looking for!!!
Hi Arren, yay! Very glad to hear that this is what you were looking for! :) Thanks for the comments and questions and let me know if you need anything else anytime
I know this is an old video Jared but I’m just getting to this level. Love all your videos and teaching methods.
Sorry if this is a simple question but I’m baffled. When you do the order of 4ths, C F Bb etc, I can play the corresponding major scales in all positions following your chart. However, I find it hard to remember all the position names C F Bb etc for all the keys. Then say if I wanted to play A on the 6th string I understand the 12 key pattern would remain the same but I would need to know all those position names. Is there a simple way to remember them?
Heyy!`Thanks for the lesson. I had one question.... you told for what keys what form will be used ON THE 5TH POSITION. But what about the other positions?? Like how do we know what form to use for what key...say on the 7th position
Thx Jared....new to your channel and just finding my way around. looking to get to a proficient level of playing but still along way to go. Your lessons are very comprehensive and very well presented. i think the level of detail you go into to explain what your trying to get across sets you apart from other channels. i look forward to checking out more lessons and then committing to you if youre my ticket. thx for being there
great lesson!! I wish I'd learned your fingerings for the scale forms instead of the "stretch" forms....your exercise for memorizing the circle of fourths is great!
All of your videos are tremendously helpful. This one in particular hit home for me and I think it's one of your best. I struggle with making the changes as keys change in jazz tunes. This program is going to help me a lot. Can you please post the five major scale forms chart that you used in the video? Also, did you create the iReal Pro backing track or is it available on their site? Thanks for all you do for us students!
Okay, Level One. What scale PATTERN are we using. Are we only using the G PATTERN or are we using the Chart to the right that you have to switch Patterns with each New Low Root Note???
Edit: okay yes, you use the different scales according to the first note with the different mark on it. Okay. Got it. Been practicing and this is the best video on this ever. You really helped me get to the next level. Thank you.
Hi, I'm just wondering if there's an easier way to find all the forms of one scale, let's say C scale, all over the fretboard? Or if you just kind of have to fiddle around with it? I've learned what you've shown here, and it's nice that it's contained within a few frets, but I'd like to also know where all the other scales are on the fretboard. I did find (i think) all the forms for at least one scale. Thanks!
Excellent question! I'll do a follow up video specifically on mastering the major scale forms all within one key instead of changing keys. It will draw from this method by having us view the location and scale form off of the roots as we did here.
In short, you'll find five roots of the same note along the neck where you'll base your five scale forms off of for that key.
I'll explain in detail in the follow up video, but hopefully that can get you started thinking about it. Thanks for the request!
Here's that follow up video: th-cam.com/video/HOflPEA6eZM/w-d-xo.html
On how to work on the scales forms all within one key and switch between the different shapes. Hope it helps! let me know if you have any other questions any time.
Is it possible to play guitar without using bar chords.
Absolutely!
O ok. I am totally self learning. I tried cord and scales without success. Earlier this year I started listening to music and started to play finger style, single notes and getting a right. Hence why I asked my question. Thanks for your lessons.
Been playing for years, self taught, my desire is to learn theory, scales, whatever. To become a better player but your beginner shit lost me from the get go. I mean I can play Allmans note for note but I don't know a damn thing about scales, circles of notes, etc.
I have found your channel just yesterday and there is so much interesting content. But I would like to start with something and the amount seems really overwhelming. Is your chord course a good place to start? Is there any other series that may help a somewhat beginner guitarist?
This is one of the most interesting lessonsi havecame across i'ave been looking for something like this for a long time love this
Hi jared is it possible to get a copy of the shapes for this excercise
Do you have examples of all twelve keys starting from the other positions?
Excellent exercises! I am new to learning how to play any instrument but definitely see the value in learning this scales.
How can I expend this to the entire neck? Love your lessons very much ❤👍🏻🎸🎶
Perfect for my level, thanks so much!
To add some variety to my backing track for parts 4-5, I did the following,
4 counts C M7,, 4 counts Am, 4 counts F M7, 4 counts Dm and so on, always interspersing the relative minor.
Same scales of course!
Haven't done his Minor video yet but this is fun!
You're very welcome!
This is a really great lesson! Thanks for sharing your insights - very helpful!! 🏆
Jared you are the master of great exercises! However these are more than just exercises - they are steps in a comprehensive system.
can i use accoustic guitar? i dont have the electric one
Absolutely :)
hard to understand for myself evn I have some knowledge about the music & scales
I really like your teaching methods. My question is; how do you determine a 7th,9th,11 th,13, whether it's on the top or bottom strings? Can it be either or? Thanks 😊
Great question. Chord extensions like that can be anywhere on any string. Check out my chord extensions explanation video for more thorough info on that stuff if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/7V2bUFmaYEY/w-d-xo.html. cheers! :) - Jared
at 16:31 im confused by the diagrams. What are the letters on 5 different scale forms mean? as in the top has c then next has f etc. Because if i'm not mistaken the F on the C form diagram is on the wrong fret. how is the E form supposed to include the key of B if it doesn't contain the B on the 6th string 7th fret? I feel like i must be misunderstanding something here
Thanks for the questions! Sorry that it was confusing! The letters on the actual fret notes in the scale diagrams are the root notes of the scales and they are the exact note of that fret. The F on the C form diagram is on the correct fret: Fret 8 on the 5th string and fret 6 on the 2nd string are both F and that's where it's written. The E form is to be used for the key of B major by moving it accordingly (up a half step from where the diagram is written). I hope that helps. Please let me know if I can help clarify further. -Jared
I can make this easier. knowing the notes is first, but then the rest can be made simpler than this
Thanks for your great teachings. Where did you find the bolster on your left thigh holding your guitar at a great angle?
You're very welcome William. Thanks for watching. - it's called a "dynarette". I just ordered it online, if you search that term you'll find lots of places to get one. I use it every day :)
Man I did not understand one bit of this?? Never heard of g form C form etc
Can I ask what those finger nail add on are please, fed up with breaking nails
Thanks!
Thanks so much! :) 🙏🙏
You are so awesome!!! Where can we dive deeper with your teachings?
Thanks, Blake! I have tons of videos here on the YT channel, some of them go pretty deep, and then I also have courses on my site www.soundguitarlessons.com/store. Thanks for asking :)
Hi Jared what is one your finger?
A type of Fingerpick, here's a video I did about them: th-cam.com/video/8VIk--237AE/w-d-xo.html
@@soundguitar thanks Jared just a quick question do you take viewer video request on certain topics
@@StephenStigling Absolutely!
have been search something like this I hope you can show us pentatenic in one position
Thanks for the request!
I play 3 notes per strinng and the way I work out the different keys is remembering the major chords 145 are always the same pattern. No matter what key you are in. If you just remember 3 chords you cover nearly the whole neck. I got about halfway through this video before I got a bit lost though. I can see the advantage of being able to do this, but my brain is not engaging LOL.
Hi Jared, I'm wondering, these are the pentatonic major scales right? as opposed to regular major scales (sorry, don't know the theory word for them) I would play on the piano. I am trying to learn those scales, but saw your video. Is there an advantage to learning these scales as opposed to those? Also, just curious why you want us to start here on the fifth fret. Thanks for the video lesson!
Like you said in the other comment, yep, these are "regular" major scales. The technical term would be "diatonic" major scales, meaning that they include all seven notes of the key, as opposed to pentatonic which only include five notes out of seven. There are other types of scales too, like octatonic, which have eight notes and are called "synthetic" scales which mean that they don't exist in any key but are artificially manufactured. Great scales to focus on at first are: Major diatonic, natural minor diatonic, and major and minor pentatonic. You can do this same process with any scale type and once you do it will be easier to apply it to all kinds of other scales as you wish in the future, like harmonic or melodic minor, or modes of scales.
Here's a video I made talking about modes of scales that will be a good supplement to this video: th-cam.com/video/YPSUVZiUUYQ/w-d-xo.html
@@soundguitar thanks for the explanation. Also, are you going to make a video about how to learn and play the pentatonic scales? ;) if not, I'll figure it out I'm sure. Just thought I'd ask. Thank you, thank you! You're the BEST!!!
@@arrenlenau3077 Thanks for the requests! They really help me decide what videos to make next. I have couple scale videos coming up. I'll include a note about how to turn normal scales into pentatonic scales during those videos. It's really just that if you take away the 2 and 4 of a major scale you have the pentatonic scale :) But explain more in those upcoming videos and talk about how they can be used as major or minor (which uses the same logic as the modes video approach). Don't hesitate to request a full-on pentatonic scales video even after those if you still want further guidance on them. And of course let me know if you have any other questions anytime :)
Great video mate, really re-motivated me to finally learn guitar theory. Hoping you could help me with one question I had though. Google tells me the notes of an A Major scale are A B C# D E F# G#. I can see from your diagrams that A major should follow E Form. E Form seems to start correctly on the note of A however the next note in E Form pattern is Bb instead of the expected B note?
343434 full tone pattern is more easier
what to do if i want to play in a different mode e.g minor
Thankyou very much! So helpful😎👍
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful and well presented....thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Just found your page. These structured studies help to break away from playing licks only. Thank you. Will be returning to your page.
Interesting! but I noticed that your 5 diagrams for the Major scale does not match up with the 5 patterns of the Major scale that I searched on google for? (I could not remember in detail all the patterns), I have no idea why this is?
You dropped the pick
Man massive respect , I used to play guitar way back and started playing it again and this tutorial is really amazing .#sharing
Awesome, thanks for sharing it! I really appreciate it. This is one of the earliest videos I made and I like the method and exercises a lot, but not a lot of people get exposed to it. Glad you liked it. Cheers, -Jared
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In order to mute easily remember what notes map to any form it seems you could say, rooted on the 6th and 5th strings, the ones higher up the neck use the pinky roots (G, C forms), while the others use the first or second finger (E, A forms), and the ones rooted on the 4th string all use the D form
Thank you very much! Your lessons are very very helpful. I play guitar for a long time and now I decided to try improvisation. Long way to go....
Lots of instructions out there on open position.. Which is great for folk and country. Lots of methods for shedding, rock and blues... Lots of good classical stuff. This is the first time I have come across a good system for getting started on major scales for people interested in jazz. Good job!
You have a talent for simplifying the complex. Thank you. I learned the major scales patterns as modal patterns. (Oh, horror! 🙂) I know that raises the hackles of about half the guitar-teaching community since modes require a magical incantation and chords to before they can be distinguished from scales. But since the seven modes derive from the seven notes of the major scale and there are seven patterns for the seven modes, why only five patterns/shapes for the "non-modal" major scale? (When I look at the first pattern above, I see the pattern/shape for the Lydian mode. But since it's the "C" scale, the 4th degree of the indicated pattern/shape is NOT raised, so I know it is not a modal scale. But that does not answer, "Why only 5 shapes/patterns for non-modal scales?") Some times the obvious, isn't. Well, at least to me.
Much talk, not useful