Why Don’t We Have Self-Driving Cars Yet?
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- More companies are trying to bring self-driving cars to the masses than ever before, but a truly autonomous vehicle still doesn’t exist. It’s not clear if, or when, our driverless future will arrive. Where exactly are we with self-driving cars, and when can we expect them to be a part of our daily lives?
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Why Don’t We Have Self-Driving Cars Yet?
From Mumbai: Test these cars on Mumbai roads. All the scenarios will be covered within an hour. No need to wait for 5 years.
Lol
Bhahaah.. Truth.
I have been to India numerous times, and I can confirm this.
The internet melts transferring all the learning.
Lol 😂
Honestly I trust self driving cars more than humans because there are so many reckless and horrible drivers. I do understand people disagreeing with me though.
LoyalThunderFan I’m with you %100
If the self driving car was at least a little better than the average driver I would support that. There are so many crazy people driving like there are no consequences.
Especially the idiots texting and driving
May the NWO fulfill its plan on you 3.
I see your point, and yes, there are too many bad drivers on the road. But I believe the majority are good drivers and there are millions and millions of motor enthusiasts who love driving. It would be sad to punish everybody to force them into a driverless car.
There People that sleep in their cars
They need to be exposed in india,delhi environment......if they worked there then they are safe in every scenario
Thanks to all who liked🙂🙂
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For sure they will be used in developed economies at first. India might use them in a couple hundred years once it fixes its infrastructure issues
All the mixing motorbikes :O
Delhi to in some parts is still ok especially New Delhi. Dhaka is the place where self driving cars should be exposed. Worser than anything in India
no one has the time to release self driving cars in india just to be criticized cuz most citizens can't afford it. maybe in 50+ years
people in 1936: In 2005 we sure will have flying cars
people in 2019: Why dont we have self driving cars
Laikrodis LTU let’s face it. Flying cars are never gonna happen; not because of tech barriers (if that was the case we would've had flying cars by the 60s), but because the concept of flying car in itself is a really bad idea.
We have flying cars, they are called "Aeroplanes" and they are self driving as well
In 1936, people seemed to believe that planes would somehow be able to levitate as opposed to actually flying. But that magical propulsion system has never been discovered. So even in 2019, we are stuck with the same aerodynamic laws of physics as we were back in 1936. This means, no flying cars anytime soon.
And if tried, can you just imagine? What is a fender bender today for a normal car would likely be a fatal crash to a flying car. I don't think humanity is quite ready for that.
Nilesh Kumar Routray getting a license for those will be very hard as well
self driving cars > flying cars. At lest the former can save lives and reduce the idiots on the road. And no need for flying cars, we already have helicopters and planes. And there is a good reason aviation takes a special course and many hours of practice to get a licence. You just don't want idiots with flying cars crashing on your house, or worst a terrorist loading the flying car with bombs and crashing into a building.
What I'd like to see in the short term are cars with an emergency self-driving system that can take over if a driver falls asleep at the wheel, for example, and can safely pull the car over to the side of the road and stop. I think that would be doable in a few years.
doesn't tesla have such a system already made?
@@J.PC.Designs well they can turn off the need hold it. That was added to make sure people are paying attention. Very well could detect if a hand is not on the wheel or if it has to auto corrects that it engages.
Similar system exist when railway engine driver looses control the inhand lever pops out tripping the system...
I'm all for safety backup systems. What I'm against is systems that are autonomous enough to lull the driver into distraction, but then fail to handle critical situations. That's far worse than keeping the driver alert by making them do all their own driving.
BloodBlade3000 ...Yes, kind of. All Teslas made recently and most for the past several years have auto pilot (NOT Full Self Driving). ONLY when auto pilot is engaged, if the sensors detect the driver’s taken their hands off the wheel for more than a certain time, it eventually assumes you’re incapacitated. It will then turn on the hazard lights, pull over and come to a stop.
The “Now You Know” TH-cam channel did a short video demonstration in May 2019. Search “Knocked Out while in Tesla Autopilot.”
Just imagine when every car accident leads to a $10M lawsuit against the vehicle OEM...
So all 2 of them so far. Compared to 100k+ crashes without it. Just imagine.
I don't buy that. Insurance companies will step in.... They wont have a choice. It will actually be better risk management to sell insurance for a driverless car in my mind. It can probably be calculated much more.
@@joedaniels4329 Its not the insurance companies you should be worried about. You got way too much faith when not looking at the ridiculous lawsuits today huh?
Over 37,000 people die in car crashes each year. Every 16 minutes, a car accident occurs that results in death.
I think self-driving cars will have better results than this, even if there are a few accidents.
@@aleksseb5504 Oh, I totally agree. I think you guys are missing the point. I'm saying that consumers will sue more often and for more money because they'll see it as suing a big corporation with deep pockets. This will then make it extremely difficult to ever adopt truly self-driving cars, short of some sort of law limiting the OEMs' liability.
Brilliant! Instead of making a self-driving car, keep raising money and saying that you will.
@Al Castill might as well make it "powered by blockchain"...
barskii Uhhhh, all automakers receive subsidies for selling EVs. Tesla’s federal tax incentive for their vehicles is ending next month. Oil is heavily subsidized, while renewable energy and EVs get a fraction of that. So nice try attempting to take away from what Tesla is doing.
PREACH!!!!!
LUL the moneys raised from coorporations not normies like us so who would even care?
@@waynelewis9110 they honestly should not be subsidized thats exactly what is driving up prices and jobs are being eliminated because of ai electric smart cars and many big corporations
Everyone could have a self driving car tomorrow. It just involves getting rid of all normal cars and not letting anybody on or near the roads
And is that a future that anyone wants to live in.
@@jghifiversveiws8729 sarcasm doesn't show up in text. And obviously nobody wants to live in a world like that
@@jghifiversveiws8729 A future with safer transportation and no more bad drivers on public roads? Yes.
Driving can then be a sport/hobby relegated to tracks for those who just have to have the feeling of driving. I LOVE driving, and have not been in an accident or gotten a ticket in the 30+ years I've been driving on public roads (at the racetrack/course, is another story), but I'm willing to make the sacrifice for the safety and stress of others.
Of course, most people aren't going to want to make that sacrifice, so I look forward to many more years of driving.
The bigger problems would be pedestrians and cyclists.
JGHifiversveiws big facts
Seems like a lot of tesla hate in this video
It's realism. The popular belief that Tesla is ahead in autonomy is considered false by most experts. It's Waymo, then Cruise. Tesla is part of the group that follows after that which includes Uber and Lyft but also conventional car makers like Daimler. Waymo has cars that are driving around without safety driver right now.
@@ehvlullo if you compare how much miles Tesla fleet has on the roads in autopilot compare to Waymo you will be surpriced.
@@niki123489 No I am not 'surpriced'. This is again the wide-held belief that purely more data would somehow be better. This is even addressed in the video; quantity is not quality. Every competitive company will have enough data at this point. The initial idea was that you would just throw it all in a simple tool and it would be perfect. However it turned out to be quite a bit more intricate than that. Improving the algorithms that do the perception and more importantly predictions is what is currently needed. Tesla is quite a cool company but I don't know why a distinction between a system that can fully drive itself without a safety driver vs a system that doesn't yet properly recognize stoplights isn't clear enough.
Hey moron humans are unpredictable a computer can’t calculate this unpredictability!
niki123489 literally in the video they say mileage is not a good metric to go by. And any car can drive in loops, straightaways, and predetermined routes.
Instead of self-driving car technology, I wish the United States would have high-speed rail.
But high speed rail won't help with local trips. High speed rail and FSD vehicles address two different challenges.
@@sking2173 There are just too many ethical dilemmas with self-driving cars. If a person dies, who is responsible for the death? Likely, the owner of the car will put the blame on the computer or manufacturer, and the manufacturer will put the responsibility on the owner.
On the other hand, good things can come out of self-driving cars also, like allowing crippled people to own cars.
The safest thing to do when self-driving cars become the main source of transportation is to not be a pedestrian or biker. This means the only source of exercise would be in forest preserves and exercise facilities. They need to make bridge crosswalks like they have in Las Vegas or underground tunnel crosswalks like they have in London (which is linked to their subway system).
I have no doubt that self-driving cars can detect other cars on the road, but they will most certainly fail to detect smaller bodies on the road like pedestrians and bicycles.
Country is too big for it. The distances are too much of a hassle. It works well in Europe where people live in dense areas,
Nathan Alder It makes sense to go at full speed through rural areas because there will be no stops. Imagine New York to Chicago to Denver to San Francisco daily at 120 mph. It’s another option aside from flying. That means more competition for transportation. Competition is always a good thing in capitalism.
Whole Food Plant-Based Man well it’s good for both consumers and manufactures. I don’t know why you brought up capitalism in this context.
When they do a self-driving that can run in India, then I'll put faith in this technology.
It's not going to happen eh..many good videos out there explaining the reasons why.
Once we reach Level 5, we still have a few more problems to solve. Having the car reliably figure out the maze of where downtown is a good place to park. Under what conditions might the car decide on its own to move and to find itself a better parking space? Perhaps some big truck needs more room to maneuver? Somebody blowing a horn? Some stranger acting a fool or molesting the car?
Also, cars should have at least 3 modes: off, standby, and on. I once had a microwave oven turn on by itself, and since then I really do not trust a computer to be in charge of a high-powered appliance. By placing it on a surge suppressor power strip with a manual off switch, I can know that it can not possibly turn itself on while I am away. How do you know that one day your fully autonomous car will not lose its mind and just drive off by itself? It needs a standby mode so that it can be summoned from an app on your smart-phone. But in off mode, it should require physical presence to switch it into standby or on mode. A software glitch should not allow it to just drive off.
Key control will also have to be smarter. Who exactly is allowed to ride in it, and who is or is not allowed to delegate or to invite friends to ride with them? A self-drive car could easily have a dozen or more authorized users. It probably should be smart enough to notice, Joe has not ridden in this car for the last 5 months. Do you want to revise his authorization status?
U forgot the 8 million jobs lost because of it
@@alexcoop522
Did you forget to count the huge number of jobs *NOT LOST* because all the people like me who would love to not have to drive anymore, and we could not afford to hire our own private chauffeurs?
It is hard to be sure exactly what will happen to all those competent truck drivers. But if I was a truck driver, I would love to be assigned to one of those new electric 500+ mile range on a charge Tesla tractor trailers. Imagine the quiet. No more obnoxious Jake brakes. Imagine being able to accelerate almost like a car. They still have a driver seat for some strange reason? I suspect that some of them will also have a sleeper cab in the back, and one can be asleep in the back and still be getting paid. How great would it be to paid to become a "truck rider". Ride along to make sure the loads get delivered, that the paperwork is done right, that I pick up the right trailer, all that important stuff. Those truck shipments are quite expensive. How many companies will want to entrust that to a mere computer alone?
@@yosefmacgruber1920 u forget they can just write it off and that's why big companies have insurance for there trucks and such why are they gonna pay u to sit there and sleep in the back hmmm if anythiny they will cut drivers and or they will cut ur benefits and pay then cut u out entirely .
@@alexcoop522
But did you forget that they will hire people, to get a better rate on their insurance. That is what one worker opined to me a while back.
Think about it. If I am driving the company vehicle doing deliveries or whatever, and I activate the cruise control, I get paid just as much. Sometimes you are paid just to be there and for your expertise. Did you know that airplane pilots are allowed, officially, to "sleep on the job"? But there are rules to it, and certain requirements have to be done first. Supposedly, many of those airplanes could fly themselves. But they have human pilots, for perhaps somewhat-obvious reasons. We humans do not quite trust the computers to do everything, without at least some supervision, and trained pilots in case something goes wrong.
I think that many truck drivers will still have jobs. But of the percentage, it is hard to say. Anyhow, at quite many companies, if you are not saving up for a possible period of unemployment, then you are being financially irresponsible. It can take months to find another job. But the bills come due in the meantime. Sometimes a person's health starts failing, or their employment situation doesn't work out so well. Those who were responsible or blessed, sometimes find that the option of "early retirement" that comes sort of forced upon them, is actually viable. I would love to have all that free time and I would retire early if I can find a proper way. Then some people grow their hobbies into sort of a paying job.
The problem with self driving cars is those edge cases in which the intelligence of the computer is just too limited. For example, imagine a signalized intersections in which the traffic lights broke, and there is a cop managing the intersection with hand gestures. A computer just can’t handle such a scenario.
Why is this employee at navigant research speaking? Navigant is a consulting company, I doubt they have authority to talk about self driving vehicles.
he doesn't have a clue about what he's speaking.
"Why don't we have self driving cars yet?"
Me: have you been to Miami, bro?
Me: **Eurobeat intensifies**
Marco M. www.amazon.com/Self-Driving-Cars-Isaiah-Robinson-Jr-ebook/dp/B0842ZXLM8/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=Isaiah+Robinson&qid=1579750094&sr=8-4
The Uber fatality results have come out and the blame lies with everyone apparently. The woman was on meth and illegally crossing the high speed road. The Uber safety driver was streaming video entertainment and not watching the road. The Uber car safety system failed and the government itself has no regulations on self driving testing.
@chris younts Did you actually read what I said? 4 parties are all responsible. How could you get "not illegal" out of any of that? I would say Uber was doing the worst with a double whammy of bad car safety systems combined with a distracted safety driver.
The exact same thing would have happened with a normal car and distracted driver on the same street, which isn't murder, but vehicular homicide or manslaughter with an aggravating factor - it's an accident, not intentional use of force until death. You wouldn't say that texting teenager murdered the jaywalker, would you? But we would call them an idiot and give them the penalty of the justice system.
Again, in the Uber case, the car was at fault, as was the safety driver, as was the woman crossing illegally as was I think even another part of Uber for not having additional safety training / managers as well as the government for not enforcing anything either.
I bought a Tesla knowing the self-driving promise is most likely years away.
dan parish brag much
jonny5777 I have the cheapest Tesla you can buy, the standard range+ Model 3. Not bragging, just saying you shouldn’t buy a Tesla thinking it’ll be a full self driving car anytime soon, Elon is known for being overly optimistic.
J Sull The only time that happens is if the person sleeping is using a tool that tricks the car into thinking they have a hand on the wheel still to bypass how the car makes sure you’re still paying attention.
As they are right now, they can drive on the highway and get you off on the right exist all by themselves as long as you jiggle the steering wheel every once in a while to let the car know you still are somewhat paying attention. However, it can’t really do much off the highway other than hold it’s lane. It won’t even stop at stop signs or stoplights yet.
@@danparish1344 It will also change lanes by itself to pass vehicles. It's not much more, but there's not much more to do on the highway anyway.
I think I read somewhere that by the end of 2019 it should be able to handle some city driving... A bit scary in my opinion (if that actually happens).
jonny5777 why u salty that u can’t afford it and someone else can you should be happy for them
9:29: "Most consumers are never going to own..." Remember when IBM said ...a personal computer
Elon musk: LIDAR will be doomed
They actually use lidar for their rockets, the just think it's not necessary for cars
@jmintube nah I use my lidar bro, I'm legally blind. Don't assume my gender
I think LIDAR, coupled with cameras is the best option.
jmintube
Have you never used a camera?
Look at something at night, then take a photo... Can you see the same as your eyes.
Focus your camera on something in the distance, then up close. How quickly does it focus.
How many times have you waited for your camera to focus on something.
There's a reason the more advanced companies are using lidar.
Robert Tesla’s Hardware 3 uses a compliment of Radar & Sonar sensors as well as cameras. Speaking of cameras, you won’t be waiting long, the neural network can process 2,300 ‘photographs’ per second.
This stuff seemed so obvious even years ago.
I made a living for 47 repairing high technology that failed to operate as designed , what do I think lots of people and property will be damaged.
CNBC: Why don’t we have self-driving cars yet?
Tesla: Am I a joke to you?
Also me: ty for everyone who like
Tesla: Am I a joke to you...
That's a false understanding, and false marketing, and a bad name "Autopilot" which leads people to believe that it's fully capable.........the car can only do so much and regularly requires intervention still which is like a level 3. A true autonomous is level 4 & 5 no human touch at all.
@@77Treasurehunter77 And here in the wild is someone who can't take a joke folks
@@77Treasurehunter77 Have you actually driven a Tesla? Before you can activate autopilot, a big prompt comes up telling you exactly what it can and can't do and that today, you're still required to watch and keep hands on the wheel. Or in the case or private parking lots, keep a finger on the phone and watch the car. It's improving rapidly, but any confusion of ability is the driver's fault for skipping these major prompts.
They aren’t fully autonomous yet
Recently went from a 2010 to a 2019. Love all the new bells and whistles. GPS on a built in dashboard display, instead of my phone clipped to the dashboard. Lane keeping assist that "sees" the lines on the road and gives a little nudge on the steering wheel if it detects you drifting. Cruise control that senses everything around you and adjusts it's self accordingly. And a fully hands off mode that, combined with cruise control, seems fine for steering through slow turns on an empty highway. Even slowing down when it detects another car a couple of hundred feet away.
It's not going to flip a blinker on and change lanes, or stop at traffic lights, not that I tried it, but it seemed ok for long distance highway driving. I've only tested the hands off cruise control a couple of times, and only for a few minutes on the highway. Seemed to work well. Honestly though, I'm not comfortable giving up control of my vehicle to it's on board computer. I trust my self waaay more than a device thats thinking components are less complex than those of a worm.
Lane keeping assist , I like. If it notices me drifting too far to either side of the road, it gives a small tug on the wheel and a dummy light on the console. Something I would like to see in the next generation is a device that automatically shuts my blinker off if it realizes its been on for 10 minutes while I'm driving down a straightaway looking like an idiot.
No driverless cars can survive in India's traffic
Today no, in the future all cars will.
explained www.amazon.com/Self-Driving-Cars-Isaiah-Robinson-Jr-ebook/dp/B0842ZXLM8/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=Isaiah+Robinson&qid=1579750094&sr=8-4
To make it work it will be necessary to have all vehicles on the road connected to a supercomputer control system. Then all pedestrians, horses and cyclists will have to be banned.
It threatens personal liberty and freedom.
It will never happen without dedicated road systems. So it will never happen. Driver assistance, sure.
It's very interesting how different the perception of how advanced the technology is and how the timeline is going to look like is so different in the US. I'm studying computer science in Germany and wrote my bachelor's thesis 2 years ago about technology in autonomous driving and back then my supervisor who had a lot of contacts with German car manufacturers said there was some kind of consensus that HAD will definitely take quite some years. And then I heard these predictions by companies like Tesla that seemed completely misjudging. I can't imagine that their engineers were that illusive. I think it was just a publicity stunt or maybe the work of illusive marketing people
Self-driving is the latest gimmick from the car industry to increase profits and divert from the fact that their cars are designed to self-destruct; so you have to buy another one; the moment you're finished paying for them.
I'm just wondering how these cars will operate in places where aggressive driving is the norm.
Just imagine these cars trying to get around in places in India or Vietnam or even a parts of Africa or south America
We even have roads with no lanes drawn on the ground
😂😂some places we don't even have roads just road examples
People in those parts of the world are too poor to afford self-driving cars.
@Chirag Patel Well, the corrupt government officials, yes. They will get public fast charging outside their house, backed up with solar panels and at work and drive around in the latest Porches and Teslas and the rest of us will ride bicycles when ICE cars aren't being made in anymore in the industrialised nations and hope that today is the day we get a couple of hours of electricity to charge our phones with.
The cars will communicate with the cars around them to maintain a safe distance.
Why not interviewing Elon Musk?
Mats David Ranaxe because he’s a bold face liar 🤥
Joshua Robbins please elaborate.
@@mrm.5787 he can't
Because he's exactly the type of fake, over promising, lying hype machine their warning against!
@@mrm.5787 Perhaps he is incapable of such...?
I'm a Domino's delivery driver that drives manual and drifts an RX8. The only car that'll be self-driving for me is my funeral cab.
My concerns with Self-Driving Vehicles is making sure the AI in the vehicle recognizes traffic lights, road signs, etc. Also, what if the sensors on the vehicle, fail, there has to be a feature where the person can manually drive the car. Aside from that, I think that Self-Driving vehicles are a great idea. Especially for those humans who just can't seem to put down that smartphone and just have to be texting and/or talking while they drive, despite knowing that it's dangerous.
What's so cool about self driving cars? I want to drive my car myself
Old man.
Seriously
Ok, Boomer.
So do I....don't risk your life by riding in some damn self automated missile.
Emman Carl Rubin
Wow, how original 🙄🙄
Self Driving Cars!?? It's 2021 and they still haven't made good self driving Lawn Mowers! lol!!
I know I am not the only one who caught when the guy said "even though we can say that an autonomous vehicle is better than a human driver, it doesn't mean that the autonomous vehicle is better than a human driver PLUS all the advanced driver assist systems we have".
Jthomas Annillo www.amazon.com/Self-Driving-Cars-Isaiah-Robinson-Jr-ebook/dp/B0842ZXLM8/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=Isaiah+Robinson&qid=1579750094&sr=8-4
@@isaiahrobinsonjr.246 what are you trying to accomplish by showing me that book?
2019: we will test a crash test with the self driving car
20256: you can hack your car with your phone to make it look like you ran over somebody
I can't wait till we have self-driving cars.... Cause when I'm driving.....I have to occasionally look up from my wonderful, precious phone and I'll NEVER get that loss of quality phone time back...!!!!!
With a self-driving car, I'll be able to look at my phone.....24/7...!!!!!!
Its not only that. You need to think beyond that. Much more than starint at phone screen is possible . Now you can probably do a laptop screen as well. Possibilites are limitless
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@@thenon-gaapbillionaire3306.....One day....when all cars are self-driving... Your experience will be like this: You get in the car and discover your phone, laptop/tablet are blocked....all devices must go though the large screen, located on the dashboard....and on that screen....before you can do anything...you have to watch lots and lots of commercials !
And every once in awhile the car will stop....and it won't go....until....you buy something....!!!!
I’ve been following the space since 2005. Unfortunately it seems like the “fun part” is over and reality is hitting most of these companies, which will inevitably consolidate. Also we must remember the goals of these cars - more safety, less traffic, less cost, less commute time. At least in the short term, not clear who is actually delivering this.
I’ve been wondering about this because I’ve been hearing that these will be here any day. Thank you for looking into it
Reminds me of the guy who bought a new Winnebago. He decided to try out the cruise control that the salesman had demonstrated.
He was in the back making coffee when the accident happened. The vehicle was a total loss. His lawyers successfully sued Winnebago because the user documents didn't state he couldn't go do something else!
Car:Where would you like to go?
Me:Hell
Car:On my way!
Me:Wait.....
Chicky Vlogs highway to hell
This is such a bad idea. What happens when the hardware degrades and malfunctions? What about software bugs? What about hackers? They can't get self flushing toilets to work.
@@Jordan-Ramses Yah,it's quite dangerous because the numbers of hackers are increasing.
It's better than you might think en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell%2C_Norway?wprov=sfla1
Can't go there if you're already there *taps head*
I'm still waiting for a development update for the flying car that folds into a briefcase, as shown by George Jetson in the opening credits of "The Jetsons".
Well you have Twitter.
This was a really good video showing where we are at. In essence still developing and not ready... As one in the computer science industry, I wish CNBC would get a bit more into the "brains" or "AI" part of self driving cars, as there is widespread misunderstanding or gaps of knowledge of so called "AI" within and without this industry. The general public and lawmakers deserve to know the underlying fundamentals of this technology and the risks involved. The self driving car industry is keen on hiding, denying, or underplaying the underlying flaws of an AI based self driving car. I'm going to generalize and simplify things significantly to keep the focus on the impact. So underneath the buzzword Artificial Intelligence as it is currently, is simply a learning "program" or algorithm that makes its own decisions. It needs to make mistakes in order to learn and to make better decisions. This is implemented using a "training algorithm". The term for this learning technique is called reinforcement learning. You can learn more about reinforcement learning in detail online or in books; the idea is nothing new and has been around for at least a decade. So the way it works is much like how a child would learn through knocking over a vase that it is an outcome that is quite undesirable. The same type of process needs to happen for these "self driving cars". These cars need to hit things in order to get better at not hitting things. Which in the video they allude to through the use of simulation. Researchers developing these cars do have a degree of control to try to coax the AI into doing what they want, but in the end these machines are not pre-programmed to do what we want them to do. In fact these cars are independent decision makers. What everyone deserves to know is that these self driving cars are not yet prepared for every traffic situation possible in this world. Which is why companies are testing them on real roads, but sooner or later these "15 year old barely licensed" self driving cars are bound to cause accidents. And many many accidents need to happen whether in real life or not before these machines get really "good" at driving in our world.
I don’t want them to make it Illegal for people to drive cars. It would be nice for somewhere to drive a car for fun. Like racetracks or big spaces where you can drive around, not fully remove normal cars.
Let's see autonomous racing cars on a track first. Not just educational but fun too.
Would be a tie for 1st 2nd 3rd & 4th lol
And that is just for the states. Imagine one of those cars in a road in mexico..
As this technology is going to rely heavily on 5G and its 1ms latency, and the fact that 5G is an LOS technology primarily, it will be quite sometime before 5G is globally ubiquitous, especially in remote and 3rd/4th world nations.
Juan - the TESLA Cybertruck will come to Mexico, its Armored.
and it will Clean up the Cartels in Mexico, Central America and South America.
@@markplott4820 that doesnt make a lot of sense..
@@juantelle1 - makes PERFECT sense when America Annexes MEXICO in 2020, you will be free from Cartels and can Elect a Democratic President if you want.
@@markplott4820 That makes even less sense. Congrats.
Many live in big cities with much annoying traffic congestion, noise and bad air quality.
Now, if one wants to take the train, one needs to walk half a km to the bus stop, then take a bus "on time" and then hope traffic is not jammed so one can take a train "on time" It's not comfortable, it gives stress, it's slow even if the train itself takes only 50 min because of all the delays and one better takes a good margin.
Imagine a small and light (plastic? ) automatic electric vehicle can be ordered right before the house. These small vehicles could bring one exactly timed (normally) to public transport or even to a normal size share car (not automatic) outside the city waiting next to a big road.
I can understand the present automatic car gets confused by all the other vehicles, pedestrians crossing, bikers falling etc. So we must make the situation much simpler and safer. These small vehicles should have their own physically separated lane but if needed bikes could drive there too and pedestrians might cross. In that case an immediate stop must be realizable and even with a collision, nobody should get hurt. Oh yes, and with luggage and a big family, we order three of them of course.
I don't even buy cars with OBD2. No one is gonna be controlling me.
Mike - pretty soon, there will be NO option other than a Electric car with FSD, it will be LAW, and Many City's are BANNING gas cars Beginning in 2023.
@@markplott4820 Bull and horse hockey.
@@danhammond9066 - Ca is Planning on BANS of New ICE car in 2025. SF , perhaps EARLIER.
@@markplott4820 And Ca has emission control standards that only apply to Ca cars and it has been like that forever. Just because Ca does something does not mean the rest of the US has lost its bloody mind.
Also some 90% of all the electric cars in the US are in Ca.
This video should be in 2016.
thelongs27 I know right lol painfully obvious how far ahead Tesla is, waymo is a joke
Cockpit Scenes only in Arizona they couldn’t do it anywhere else because they don’t have enough real world data , Tesla on the other hand can basically self drive anywhere in the world and is improving daily
People have this unconditional love for Tesla cars. They think Elon Musk can do no wrong. Period. That's fanatical.
People don’t realize how far away we are from level 5 autonomy. Like 10+ years.
jan simonides WOW! You think it's gonna take that long??!!
Having been in the tech industry for a number of years, I'm very skeptical of completely autonomous vehicles. Developers have become so accustomed to releasing imperfect software and fixing bugs in new releases that I'm not sure that they can develop a flawless system that won't fail at many touchpoints. Look at how often the technology fails on high-end cars right now. I know numerous people who own Mercedes, Audi, and BMW cars who constantly have their cars in the shop for electrical malfunctions and technological flaws. I think the technology is useful in certain applications, but I'm not totally convinced that it can be widely used on the same roads as unpredictable regular drivers.
It's simply a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. If self driving cars killed 10,000 people annually in the USA, then that would be a vast improvement compared to the 36,000 currently killed by manually driven vehicles.
@@wronggg plane are alot safer then cars but when one do tragically go down killing hundred in the process it becoms a big issue beacuse most of those passenger was not to blame for the incident its either the plane pilot of some mishap people like the sense of control even if its proven to be more destructive think about if you were to losly train those 200 or so passenger to fly there on light aircraft statistically more would die per given milage per passenger if you were to drive to fast and crash you know its your fault or the other guys fault but if a computer drove to fast or to slow and crash with you in it becoms a huge issue even if its more likly that you would crash more often if you drve yourself you see someone dying beacuse of another person mistake is a very hard pill to swallow even if its the lesser of the 2 evils
@@wronggg If "heavy assist" + "driver staying in control" is better than autonomy then that would be the lesser evil - would you be happy with it?
Yeah but electric vehicles are safer.. They get in much less accidents even when you count for the amount of them relative to traditional vehicles. If we don't want things on the road until they're definitely safe, we should be taking most people off the road.
And that's what I see a lot of people are not getting. Millions of people are killed/injured on roads every year. How many have self driving cars? Not even 1% of that.
@@dougroyce5784the big one that keeps coming up is the biker that was hit. I thought everyone agreed that even a person driving wouldn't have seen her. To use that example specifically is so disingenuous because they make it seem like the pilot should've been able to stop but wasn't paying attention, when in reality even if the pilot was paying attention they still wouldn't have seen her step out from the shadows and into the street.
Tesla in Europe: Am I a joke to you.
When I first heard of autonomous vehicles being implemented into society a few years ago, I initially thought this type of technology was way ahead of its time before being trustworthy practical everyday vehicles.
Why don't we make the streets smart? It would cost a lot, but it would make implementation of self driving cars a lot easier.
We also need to develop the roads to support the self-driving cars so that it’ll be more safer and more functional. The society can’t fully switch to driverless car unless we transform the roads.p
Your socialism doesn’t work on us car enthusiasts
"Are we there yet?" "Nope"
(HAL voice). No Dave, we are NOT there yet.
This comment should be #1. Would save those 12+ min
Business model is the biggest challenge, how to make money on self-driving cars? We need more use cases.
8:57 I've taken a waymo to that same destination before!
The real question is why don’t we have flying cars yet??
Google is working on it
Not enough money
so... a plane?
We have. It's called a helicopter.
@@thesure1 9/11 inside job
The more important question is who cares. I'm glad I won't be alive when the only car you can get you can't actually drive because it is 100% automated. What a sad day that will be when the last driving car is discontinued.
I don't actually agree with what your saying, but i kind of get what your saying.... But let me add this statement....I am almost 100% sure (and this is without actually evidence to back it up) but I'd bet several people back in 1885 when the automobile was invented probably said something very similar about the day when horses would be fully discontinued and replaced by automobiles for travelling 🤷🏾♂️
@@mecca3000 yeah but the difference is most people I know like driving. Its more about taking away the fun of driving not so much an "oh god new technology what now!!?!?" Know what I mean?
@@letterpool once again I get what your saying, but I don't think either of us can say for certain what the motivation of people back in the late 1800s to early 1900s where when expressing fear of the loss of riding horses or horse drawn carriages.... And again (with no actual evidence) I'm 100% sure that SOME of those people really enjoyed the FEELING of riding a horse or horse drawn carriage, and probably could care less about the technological benefits of the automobile. You are just expressing your opinion, so you are definitely not wrong in your statements. I am just pointing out the interesting FACT that history seems to repeat it self. 1900 to 2020 🤷🏾♂️
That video at 8:04 says Nov 20 2019, but it looks like footage from the 90s.
Yeah right... You left out the part that the Uber crash was the pedestrians fault. She was jaywalking at night on a dark road. I think that many people would have the same result on that situvation. On the pedestrians defence. Uber car noticed her on the road but ignored her as an "object", before the crash was immediate.
Would a driverless car,react,like a human,to an immediate change,or,would it just keep trying to go forwards?Would the route be unchanging?Would the car drive into a flood,or can it 'see'?
From my point of view, the full self driving cars will be available by the end of early 2020s.
Nothing happening between 2015- 2019 it only happens between 2020-2025 know what im saying
@@jordan_the_chill21 As in work in progress between 2020 - '25? Or release date of full self driving by car companies?
This didn’t age well
Good to hear a bit of reason rather than just hype. Still not if but when. The big motor companies are in too deep to turn back now.
God forbid God forbid !!! Why in the hell do need we driverless cars and trucks and who the hell are these people who are pushing the absolutely insane idea? Where the hell are these people from a different planet? Why do we need to have them and why is it going to be forced on us. I personally don't ever want to share the road with a driverless car and especially a 80,000 lb driverless truck. I will never stop driving my own car and no one is ever going to tell me I will have to. The technology will never be 100 percent and worse yet it will always be a threat by hackers. Take your driverless crap and shove it up your you know where!!!
I’m fine with just really good assist like new Mercedes or Tesla. It’s so amazing on long drives
Simple answer. Not.everyone wants everything done for them. People like to drive
exactly! that seems to be very much lost in this whole debate. driving is an empowering and liberating experience, not to mention fun. this is just another way in which our humanity is being sanitized. some times accidents happen. that's life. doesnt mean we need to sterilize the entire experience.
@Unintended Consequences Of course people like to be driven, but that has nothing to do with the fact that most people enjoy driving.
@@northeastjerk6381 thank you for giving the exact answer I was going to give.
How can a self driving car know to go extra slow if a child off the side of the road is playing with a ball? As a teen driver, I could have killed a child had I not been watching her and run off the road when she ran right in front of me at the very last second.
Self driving cars are gonna be a bad idea
A self driving car has sensors. So do people. The difference is just that a self driving car has more of them and unlike people the car can use all of them simultaneously. The car can detect and monitor the children long before even get close enough to be dangerous. Radar can see things what are invisible for the vision because there is something what blocking the sight.
@@gene8194 Wrong self driving car sensors have already proven they will fail when they are needed most killing you and the obstacle.
😂😂😂😂why he sounded like that at the end. I thought he was going to cry.
Why the push for driver-less cars???? Automate washing my car, and changing the oil. I like driving it.
yea i would never spend money on a driverless car i like having control over my car i dont even like automatics over stick.
@@Masden- too many idiots that drive recklessly. Just because you think its fine it isnt. Deaths would be reduced and property damage would reduce.
@@deusexbaby5555 oh we cant still say self driving cars can reduce that
we have to waot for years
@@deepalihebbare8660 I never said theyre good rn. But if it does get perfected this automated system will be much safer.
CNBC: "Why no driverless car yet?"
Also CNBC: "HEH Tesla trying driverless car but they sux and have 5 accidents out of hundreds of thousands of runs. Everyone point n laugh at dem!"
Waymo > Tesla
Back when I was young the goal was flying cars. Perfecting self-driving technology is a little bit easier than that.
I review the crucial AI problems that need to be solved for full self-driving cars to become a reality. They are 1) intuitive physics (including causal reasoning,) 2) intuitive psychology, and 3) multi-step reasoning and planning. The article is here:
www.bobblum.com/ESSAYS/COMPSCI/self-driving-cars.html
The sensor suite needs to achieve pixel level RGB-depth (range) at least comparable to human binocular vision (stereopsis) including minimal degradation in bad weather.
This will not be achieved by Tesla, Cruise, or Aurora (or anyone else) for several more years (such that the car can drive autonomously in heavy traffic and bad weather.) Nonetheless, I look forward to exciting progress and gradual widespread rollout of Level 4.
I suggest everyone watch VICE's "future of work" after this
Comcast: Trust Google. Trust Amazon. Trust GM. These corporations are your friend.
David Kendall I trust them driving more than the vast majority of people on the road. Robots don’t get tired, drunk, or stare at their phones
@@Jakeobfreedman Even though they admit that their self driving cars aren't good? They talked so bad about tesla, but tesla's cars are better than theirs.
David Kendall they are good. They’re just not perfect. And when we’re talking about life and death they need to be almost flawless before they become more widespread. Even though they’re better than 99% of drivers and get in fewer accidents per mile, a single fatality from a robot gets far more scrutiny than one from human error. I understand the psychology of not wanting to put your life in the hands of an inanimate machine making decisions, but we do it all the time without realizing it.
David Kendall I don’t dislike Tesla or anything, but it’s a massive corporation with a $65billion market cap and also doesn’t really care about being your friend
The one dynamic I've yet to see is the result weather has on self driving cars. I'm looking through a snow storm with heavy snow ruts on the roads right now, how can the lack of traction be simulated?
The infrastructure has to be developed along side the autonomous vehicles as well.
There are many areas where the roads change, where you have falling debris, wet leaves, and other unpredictable scenarios. The best place to implement this are in cities with a defined grid system, and highways that are well traveled devoid of the most extreme inclement weather. Also, you will have people will naturally fear giving up any control to autonomous system because that psychological transition will take a few generations. I'm optimistic we'll get there, but if your in your mid 30s as am I, we probably won't see this fully accepted and partially implemented when we are in our mid 50(s).
"Past peak hype, in the trough of disillusionment" (;-) important comment: design for the worst - edge cases the toughest, most problematic. #VisionZero
In my honest opinion self driving cars are and have always been a solution looking for a problem, lets face facts no city in the history of cities has ever solved it's congestion or collision problems by adding more cars onto the road and especially not autonomous cars.
Probably bc it’s never been tried...
@@med9371 What is our obsession with immature technologies, some of the best innovations in human history have always been new processes and methods of orienting oneself that's why the assembly line was such a monumental innovation it permanently changed the way we manufactuer things, meanwhile the automated assembly line wasn't nearly as positive an innovation millions of people lost their jobs, houses, healthcare, college savings and more and for what efficiency and profit but for whom.
@@JR-yu5tf I guess so.
Automated vehicles would lead to far less congestion, not least from the huge reduction in parked cars. Most traffic jams are caused by human errors and limitations.
@@jghifiversveiws8729 Thanks for that, Ned Ludd.
"Fleet applications" is essentially a euphemism for larger organizations that can manage the liability aspect of the technology application. So much of the discussion about "autonomous" vehicles revolves around hardware, software, development and deployment. What we REALLY want to know is : who pays when an autonomous system inflicts harm -- autonomously...? Certainly not the owner, as they're not operating the vehicle. How are the manufacturers going to dodge this MAJOR hurdle...?
... and perhaps also they can afford cost of using the better equipment like LIDAR.
🤔Maybe insurance like now😒
Can a self driving car drive on the pch, offroad, go through construction zones, make u-turns, go through a McDonald's drive thru, park in a parking lot, stop at the railroad tracks? I would "love" to know.
"Welcome to Johnny cab" What is the allure of a self driving car? Use the bus, or train or plane. What next, self feeding food stations?
VMX well good luck getting directly to your workplace by plane haha, and nevermind the fact that self driving cars would render busses and trains (which are still pretty bad for our environment, especially busses) useles at a certain point
@@RizzGoku lmao u kidding??? busses and trains are FAR more efficient than cars, a trolley is the ultimate city transportation! no need for expensive battery and can stop ez unlike trams, wich could be used for longer rides
@@LeoMkII get yourself informed on the future plans of public transportation. google is already planning a public transportation system of self driving electric cars. Buying an own car would become obsolete and you can call yourself a ride just like with uber, only that the car will be driving itself. If that becomes a reality no one would need busses or trams for inter city transportation and it would be a giant environmental relief, especially in the long run. Cars these days are in use for about 2-3% of their lifetime. Thats a huge waste. The self driving cars would be in use almost 100% of the time.
Today: in progress
2030: Wall-e movie
So basically everyone interviewed hated on tesla for overhyping.
Fair accusation
I'm 100% okay with driver-assist. Absolutely slam on the brakes before I hit something. But imagine riding in an autonomous taxi that has a sensor fail and kills an old lady on a bicycle? If you think sensors won't fail you obviously haven't owned enough Electronics.
steering the wheel, shifting the gear and paddling break, clutch and accelerator is exercise?
Americans also think taking the stairs at work is exercise
it's mental exercise if not physical.
Lol
@Unintended Consequences it can become somewhat automatic if you only drive on the exact same roads all the time. I like to drive in different places, when I go on vacation. last month I was in St Lucia where they drive on the left side of the road (I am used to driving on the right side). the steering wheel and controls were all reversed to what I am used to. the roads were narrow, twisty and steep. nothing about driving there was automatic! one of the most thrilling experiences I have had.
The way this is framed is very reminiscent of FUD: So much fear of misuse of self-driving features, emphasis on uncertainty of when FSD will be achieved, and doubt about the readiness of the technology. Not really a balanced presentation, nor useful information for investors, consumers, or decision makers.
The software I've worked with for 40 years, and some I wrote, may have been too low-brow for this discussion, but it has always been glitchy and fragile. Slow progress is what I expect.
Because there are people like me who don't want to risk the car malfuncting & taking me to the middle of no where, crash, etc. It's just mentally safer to be in control.
4:42 - pretty sure this dude shorted Tesla.
Ryan Gen www.amazon.com/Self-Driving-Cars-Isaiah-Robinson-Jr-ebook/dp/B0842ZXLM8/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=Isaiah+Robinson&qid=1579750094&sr=8-4
yeah yeah, sure buddy. I think this constant non-stop appraisal of Elon Musk is getting on peoples nerves. Like he has come down from above in pillows of clouds and everything he creates turns into a miracle device.
Teflon Pan seriously? A year ago you couldn’t find a news outlet saying anything positive about Tesla. Tesla became the most shorted stock in existence.
1:20 these little setbacks of people getting killed. That’s it?
As for deployment, current autonomous systems development seems to assume operation in a 100% distributed environment, where each vehicle is an individual cell in a vast sea. Call me old-fashioned, but I suspect difficulties inherent in the solo flyer model will give rise to larger control management systems, probably in more densely populated urban and sub-urban spaces. Civic, county, state and federal orgs already have transportation departments, and any formal regulation will organically flow back through existing management systems. Think "virtual traffic signs and road markings" and you're heading in the right direction. Perhaps even a virtual space where the cars co-exist in a game-like environment. Given the economic aspects of deployment and liability, first deployment will almost surely be in the long haul sector, during low-density traffic periods. The first fully "autonomous" vehicles running legally will probably be trucks hauling late-night cargo between ex-urban hubs.
Six years ago my supervisor was so excited to think that she will soon be chauffeured to and from work by an all-electric autonomous vehicle. All she knew is what she was told. I said, No. It ain't gonna happen before you retire. She will retire next year and she's furious that I predicted it. But it was OBVIOUS! Every day I drive to work, I see situations that a computer simply will not handle reliably every time. And sure enough, that's what is happening. This really is the "trough of disillusionment."
Business Insider, 3 months ago: Why Don't We Have Self-Driving Cars Yet?
CNBC, now: Why Don't We Have Self-Driving Cars Yet?
Business Insider: Am I a joke to you?
TESLA 2019 - Self Driving cars since 2013
If San Francisco is difficult for self driving cars, what about Amsterdam? Or Paris? Far more difficult!
PierreB or go to a developing country where traffic is far more chaotic
Or india and china.
How much thought is given to smart roads? Maybe a metal mesh grid, just below road surface, could be map cars follow, with "dispatcher" software sorting out which vehicle moves where, when.
The problem with self-driving cars is that the cameras only look directly in front of the car. I remember being in driver's ed at age 16, and we had to be concerned with the distance in front of the car as well as up to the sidewalk. We needed to have the awareness that somebody off the sidewalk might at any moment come in front of you. The problem with self-driving cars is that it wall only be aware of speed limit and just continue driving according to road signs only as well as the immediate path in front of the car. Self-driving cars need very wide lens cameras for sensing the path and the sides of the car. Long story short, a computer will never surpass the human brain in capabilities.
That's why cameras are used in tandem with Lidar and radars.
Kevinder Singh How do you know the radars will do something? That’s like having human eyes detect a child running to the street and just continue driving over the body. Radar and detection is useless without decision-making algorithms.
Tesla had an Autonomy day not long ago, look it up and watch it on TH-cam
@@ninjanerdstudent6937 That is why the Tesla Computer processes so much information so quickly (8 camera's, 12 ultrasonic sensors and a main and backup forward facing radar that actually sees several cars ahead and responds to them as well as the car immediately in front.)
And is built to have a fully redundant computer that seamlessly takes over if the main one dies
Frank Speaking We are talking about seeing other cars. We are concerned with smaller objects like people and bikes. Even if 2 cars hit each other, who cares? The people inside of them survive.